Dbol, Test E & Tren E cycle Comments?

[GoingApe]

Hey fellas Im back!

So My NPC comp went very well & Im back in my groove now.. I am wanting to Hit up a nice bulk Mode cycle Im thinking

Test E 250mg wk
Tren E 400-500mg wk
D-Bol 50Mg ED for the first 4 weeks

Same PCT as my past 2 cycles if you guys have seen those.
I might be wrong but I was reading up on tren and they said to keep the test lower because test and tren bind to the same receptors so you don't want them fighting for room.

Let me know what you guys think...

I already know this being my first time using tren I should use Ace to see how my body reacts but worse come to worse & I get some symptoms ill drop the tren and prob just do the test Dbol.
But I'm sure ill be fine.

FOr you who don't know past cycles

Test E... Anavar

Test E, Mast E, Winny... Last 2 weeks switched to Test ace

 

[gearhead]

bro so how long ago was your last shot? and be more specific on pct, what did you use? how long

 

[Bad Juju]

yeah. be good to know when you last pinned. take proper time off. don't get too excited and roll right into another cycle prematurely

 

[LevButlerov]

You need to take enough time off before jumping back into another cycle. However, if hypothetically we consider that you have done everything right, and you are going to begin this cycle, you need to make a couple of changes.
First of all, since you are using Dbol, a liver supporting supplement is a must here. Then, you will get a lot of benefits if you add Cardarine GW to the cycle, since it will stop most of trenbolone's side effects, and will improve the overall cycle. For PCT, you should be doing nothing less than the perfect PCT with such a heavy cycle.

 

[muskate]

Hey fellas Im back!

So My NPC comp went very well & Im back in my groove now.. I am wanting to Hit up a nice bulk Mode cycle Im thinking

Test E 250mg wk
Tren E 400-500mg wk
D-Bol 50Mg ED for the first 4 weeks

Same PCT as my past 2 cycles if you guys have seen those.
I might be wrong but I was reading up on tren and they said to keep the test lower because test and tren bind to the same receptors so you don't want them fighting for room.

Let me know what you guys think...

I already know this being my first time using tren I should use Ace to see how my body reacts but worse come to worse & I get some symptoms ill drop the tren and prob just do the test Dbol.
But I'm sure ill be fine.

FOr you who don't know past cycles

Test E... Anavar

Test E, Mast E, Winny... Last 2 weeks switched to Test ace

Your cycle looks good. Keeping testosterone on the low side when using trenbolone helps reduce a lot of side effects a lot of users experience when using trenbolone. Adding in cardarine GW to your cycle is another really good idea. It'll help with endurance, fat loss and recovery and also help greatly reduce trenbolone related side effects.

I would lower your dosages slightly. 300mg/week is plenty for a first cycle with trenbolone. Trenbolone has a androgenic:anabolic ratio of 500:500 (testosterone is 100:100). A little bit goes a long way. This is what I recommend for a cycle:

weeks 1 - 12
testosterone 250mg/week
tren 300mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg EOD
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)
caber 0.5mg E3D - if needed due to a prolactin flair up from the tren

weeks 1 - 4
dbol 30mg/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[MikeSnow]

I think its okay but don't really see the point of dbol.. Tren is king

 

[GoingApe]

ever since my 1st cycle iv followed the Perfect PCT but I took nolva 20/20/20/20 because when I started off 40/40/20/20 I broke out in a rash all over I didn't know if it was because the nolva or what.. & everything else like normal Test booster/Aromasin/Nolva/clomid/same PCT support from the same lab both times. I think renovation labs or something like that all black bottle with green falcon on it cant remember the name..

But last shot was August 25th.. I wanted to start my this cycle around Jan.. which would give me 5 months ish off.. want to do this beginning of the year so around July/Aug I can get ready for my shows. && ill def drop the Tren down to 300 and keep the test @250 so I can use one pin. never used Cararine but Im guessing AG-guys will have it ill check them out & yes ill have some caber on stanbdby...

 

[gearhead]

ever since my 1st cycle iv followed the Perfect PCT but I took nolva 20/20/20/20 because when I started off 40/40/20/20 I broke out in a rash all over I didn't know if it was because the nolva or what.. & everything else like normal Test booster/Aromasin/Nolva/clomid/same PCT support from the same lab both times. I think renovation labs or something like that all black bottle with green falcon on it cant remember the name..

But last shot was August 25th.. I wanted to start my this cycle around Jan.. which would give me 5 months ish off.. want to do this beginning of the year so around July/Aug I can get ready for my shows. && ill def drop the Tren down to 300 and keep the test @250 so I can use one pin. never used Cararine but Im guessing AG-guys will have it ill check them out & yes ill have some caber on stanbdby...

bro rash from nolva? you did a full pct?

 

[LevButlerov]

ever since my 1st cycle iv followed the Perfect PCT but I took nolva 20/20/20/20 because when I started off 40/40/20/20 I broke out in a rash all over I didn't know if it was because the nolva or what.. & everything else like normal Test booster/Aromasin/Nolva/clomid/same PCT support from the same lab both times. I think renovation labs or something like that all black bottle with green falcon on it cant remember the name..

But last shot was August 25th.. I wanted to start my this cycle around Jan.. which would give me 5 months ish off.. want to do this beginning of the year so around July/Aug I can get ready for my shows. && ill def drop the Tren down to 300 and keep the test @250 so I can use one pin. never used Cararine but Im guessing AG-guys will have it ill check them out & yes ill have some caber on stanbdby...

As far as I know, they don't have Cardarine GW. The best source for this compound is sarms1.com - only with them you can be 100% sure that you are getting the real SARMs.

 

[GoingApe]

I said I didn't know if it was from the nolva or what so I dropped it to 20mg instead of 40 ed for 4 weeks and I was g2g. on top of everything else I took...

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So what im taking away from this is keep test @250 drop tren to 300mg/wk dbol 50mg for the 1st 4 weeks & aromasin Iv always done 12.5mg ED or EOD depending on how my nipps look/feel might have to up it to 25mg EOD to be safe

& of course ill have a cycle assist/ liver organ shield maybe some Tudca .. caber on standby ...

PCT same as always

thanks for the inputs fellas just wanted to make sure I had all my ducks in a row with a 1st time tren use.

 

[gearhead]

& of course ill have a cycle assist/ liver organ shield maybe some Tudca .. caber on standby ...

PCT same as always
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bro for liver organ and kidney shield use n2guard...only proven product i trust...
http://www.evolutionary.org/n2guard

for pct use perfect pct
http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[muskate]

I said I didn't know if it was from the nolva or what so I dropped it to 20mg instead of 40 ed for 4 weeks and I was g2g. on top of everything else I took...

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So what im taking away from this is keep test @250 drop tren to 300mg/wk dbol 50mg for the 1st 4 weeks & aromasin Iv always done 12.5mg ED or EOD depending on how my nipps look/feel might have to up it to 25mg EOD to be safe

& of course ill have a cycle assist/ liver organ shield maybe some Tudca .. caber on standby ...

PCT same as always

thanks for the inputs fellas just wanted to make sure I had all my ducks in a row with a 1st time tren use.

I don't know what was in the auxiliary products you were using but no dosage of nolvadex should use a rash.

Next cycle, order your PCT products off of ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

1. Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD is a good dosage. Remember that you need some estrogen for normal muscle gain and sexual function

2. Use n2guard from n2bm.com at 7 capsules/day as your liver aid.

3. 30mg/day of dbol is more then enough.

Cycle looks good bud. Good luck with your show. Do you have a coach helping you with the diet?

 

[Chief swole]

Test and tren is my favorite combination. That's what I'm on now minus the dbol

 

[Jrbdallas]

bro rash from nolva? you did a full pct?

it can happen dude haha Ive seen a couple buddies go through it.

 

[GoingApe]

That's what im trying to say lol. Of course I did a full PCT.. both of my cycles went very well only reason I even posted on the forum was to make sure that I wasn't starting my tren off too high for a first time use. The smaller the better is what I always shoot for on everything. Thanks guys for all the help Iv decided to just drop the Dbol I don't know how im going to react to tren so im just going to keep it test and tren maybe after 4 weeks I might throw some dbol in, ill just have to see.