Fake Kiefe from HGH power

[wowstrongarms]

no you got that wrong my friend. this forum is no censored.A person has a right to speak freely about his good or bad experiences and not only is it allowed its ENCOURAGED.Its the persons thinking of purchasings job to decide if someones opionion is valid or worthy, NOT yours.Or if they would rather seek following people with tests or best .. information from people with tests & usage.People need to do their own homework/reseach and make educated purchases. The whining needs to stop in this thread.Enough already.This forum is set up the way it is and its being used exactly as admin wants

also if someone WAS following your advised method... anyone going by tests on hgh power on THIS board would have purchased because all scored were high until now and so was the feedback of people on use.This is his 1st reported bad experience with many users.Who know whats going on, we will have to see.Hopefully more test scores do pop up and a better conclusion can be made

Yes, first bad test on THIS forum, correct. Quite a few others spread throughout other boards. Well, I will specify, none as bad as this one, but many other less than promising tests.

I also never said anything should be censored, so please go back and re read my post. I said either post current results of kefei or shut up. Nobody cares about tests from 3 months ago, and noone should ever care about how you "felt". Especially when we have bad tests popping up.

Simple fact is we need more tests run on current batches.

 

[musicboy]

well, you certainly blamed and spread lies from so called your experience, calling this thread 'fake kefei from hghpower'.
Who are you to judge us, we have this hgh from day one it went into production many years ago?
Since you have such an issue, why didn't you contact us on first by email? Having that in mind i reckon your thread as shit.
If you go and buy a broken tv set would you not request your money back? But... You 'never wanted anything back' which
means you certainly bullshit here and making us look bad in the eyes of the community.
Re. Your test results, you can always manipulate it, because you can work for another source or just want to ruin our
reputation. This forum is an open space where everybody are allowed to cry out for whatever they want, but we never tolerate
such behavior nor we need anybody to defend us.



either you despise it or not we're the one to decide either we want to reply to any post here or not.
From this day on, this is our last post for any bullshit story you or anybody else could write here.
If you do not trust us, we don't chase you to buy, you have plenty of sources to buy from anywhere else.
We came here referred by hurricane and we can freely go out of here very easily.

First of all,
the reason I didn't come to you is b/c this is not (as others have said) not Sears or BestBuy. I expected that my money was gone and in my mind would never be seen again. I mean this is for all intense purposes "The Black Market". Correct??? Also, it would of looked like I was trying to get something for free. The reason I put it on this forum, was b/c that's what I've been told to do from numerous people on this site for the sake of community.

Second of all,
The reason I didn't ask for anything back was b/c it would make my post look "as shit" as you say. You are exactly right, this is a community forum. That I am a part of! So, that is why I shared my results. If you can't handle that....my man, your in the wrong business!!! I was under the impression that was what I was supposed to do!

If it would make you feel better, I will email you directly and we can continue this personally, and I will not post on this thread ever again, only to tell people the outcome of our discussions..as I believe they are owed that much for commenting and participating. "you have my word"

But,
If you decide to not respond and talk to me about his, then I will take it (as i'm sure most people here will) that you are running away from the problem therefor claiming to wash your hands of the situation instead of trying to make it right. (Then again, I ask now, for nothing except communication, that you have obviously said I should have done. and that I am trying to now)

One more thing,
Please stop reaching at straws to make what has happened personal....
ie
"Re. Your test results, you can always manipulate it, because you can work for another source or just want to ruin our
reputation."

I assure you I am a 40 year old family man that has no affiliate with any other source and that has gotten into the game to try and better my life. But, I will not allow anyone, and I mean anyone to ruin me or my reputation. Others on this site will take from this what they will. I am not searching anyone down to try and gain sides or get help. All I've done was post the truth of my experience. I'm sorry about the post title maybe I should have thought of a better one, but I was a little upset at the time and just wanted people to read the thread and learn from my experience.

Maybe a better title would have been, "BAD reaction to HGH Power Kefei"

but either way it wouldn't have looked good.

 

[samkahn]

First of all,
the reason I didn't come to you is b/c this is not (as others have said) not Sears or BestBuy. I expected that my money was gone and in my mind would never be seen again. I mean this is for all intense purposes "The Black Market". Correct??? Also, it would of looked like I was trying to get something for free. The reason I put it on this forum, was b/c that's what I've been told to do from numerous people on this site for the sake of community.

Second of all,
The reason I didn't ask for anything back was b/c it would make my post look "as shit" as you say. You are exactly right, this is a community forum. That I am a part of! So, that is why I shared my results. If you can't handle that....my man, your in the wrong business!!! I was under the impression that was what I was supposed to do!

If it would make you feel better, I will email you directly and we can continue this personally, and I will not post on this thread ever again, only to tell people the outcome of our discussions..as I believe they are owed that much for commenting and participating. "you have my word"

But,
If you decide to not respond and talk to me about his, then I will take it (as i'm sure most people here will) that you are running away from the problem therefor claiming to wash your hands of the situation instead of trying to make it right. (Then again, I ask now, for nothing except communication, that you have obviously said I should have done. and that I am trying to now)

One more thing,
Please stop reaching at straws to make what has happened personal....
ie
"Re. Your test results, you can always manipulate it, because you can work for another source or just want to ruin our
reputation."

I assure you I am a 40 year old family man that has no affiliate with any other source and that has gotten into the game to try and better my life. But, I will not allow anyone, and I mean anyone to ruin me or my reputation. Others on this site will take from this what they will. I am not searching anyone down to try and gain sides or get help. All I've done was post the truth of my experience. I'm sorry about the post title maybe I should have thought of a better one, but I was a little upset at the time and just wanted people to read the thread and learn from my experience.

Maybe a better title would have been, "BAD reaction to HGH Power Kefei"

but either way it wouldn't have looked good.

I feel you...

 

[musicboy]

there are tons of ways to fuck up a blood test.Not saying i dont agree with it something being done to make it right... it SHOULD, i will contact him and see what i can do.But if he dont want to , all i can say is dont use him for poor customer service.We cant kick him off here for being a scammer because there are a few people with good bloodwork from here and this is the first bad we saw.Also multiple people have been reporting great results from his hgh as well.For every 1 bad review on him there are atleast 10 good reviews,

In my opinon it sounds like they recieved a bad batch from the mil and he got it because a bunch of people got legit stuff .It should be replaced but i cant force them to

Ive been using hgh power for 7 months straight and in my opinion he has the best generic hgh i have ever used period.Is it as good as pharma grade hell no! but it was a great buy for the price.We all know generics have a shitty selection but this was one of the better ones

Cane,
I am sorry, I should of written this a long time ago when I first read this post....

Thank you for taking it upon yourself to try and do something about this even tho we all know how you feel about HGH power. I just wanted you to know that I respect you and feel blessed to know that there are others in the community that care. Also, be assured that I am not from another source trying to take anything away from HGH power. I just thought I should post my experience for so others could know exactly what "might" happen if they ordered from the same source.

Once again,
thank you for trying to make things right

MB

 

[hurricane]

Yes, first bad test on THIS forum, correct. Quite a few others spread throughout other boards. Well, I will specify, none as bad as this one, but many other less than promising tests.

I also never said anything should be censored, so please go back and re read my post. I said either post current results of kefei or shut up. Nobody cares about tests from 3 months ago, and noone should ever care about how you "felt". Especially when we have bad tests popping up.

Simple fact is we need more tests run on current batches.

i agree 100% we need more tests.And if enough bad scores pop up a source will be asked to leave this board.BUT all feedback is enouraged on here.Someone doesnt have to have a test score to have an opinion on their own experenices with a product.IF you find his experiences worth jack shit great, you are entitled to that opinion .

Me personally i would take someone experiences i knew was a vet and i trusted more into consideration then a test score from some guy i didnt know from a hole in the wall with 50-100 posts.Scores can be manipluted very easily to come up in even the 50's for someone being a shill for a source or in the low digits for somone looking to extort a source.SO all feedback is worthly .. maybe not to you but to some.

best scenario is scores from multiple people to confirm there is no conspiracy and I/we enourage that .. lets get the scores out there and let the story be told! we are just as eager as you guys to see.

 

[musicboy]

i agree 100% we need more tests.And if enough bad scores pop up a source will be asked to leave this board.BUT all feedback is enouraged on here.Someone doesnt have to have a test score to have an opinion on their own experenices with a product.IF you find his experiences worth jack shit great, you are entitled to that opinion .

Me personally i would take someone experiences i knew was a vet and i trusted more into consideration then a test score from some guy i didnt know from a hole in the wall with 50-100 posts.Scores can be manipluted very easily to come up in even the 50's for someone being a shill for a source or in the low digits for somone looking to extort a source.SO all feedback is worthly .. maybe not to you but to some.

best scenario is scores from multiple people to confirm there is no conspiracy and I/we enourage that .. lets get the scores out there and let the story be told! we are just as eager as you guys to see.

I hope you're not saying i'm trying to extort a source????
All I've done is try and "share" my experience with the community.

and just to comment on the # of post thing:

ME personally would give a shit about the number of post, but about the facts... the pictures and the test speak for themselves.
I get the point about trying to manipulate the scores to discredit a source, and no one will ever know the truth except me. But FUCK, I have to much shit to do with 2 babies, a wife, full time 40 hour a week job, a 14 year old step son in high school, working out 8 hours a week and cardio 3-4 hours a week (most of the time LOL).

As you can tell I have much better things to do than to waist my precious time trying to discredit a source.

I AM TELL MY TRUE STORY. THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.

People will take from this what they want, but The amount of post shouldn't mean shit. That just shows people that I'm new to the community, not that I'm lying.


This has never been about the source, it's been about the people in this community.

 

[hurricane]

I hope you're not saying i'm trying to extort a source????
All I've done is try and "share" my experience with the community.

and just to comment on the # of post thing:

ME personally would give a shit about the number of post, but about the facts... the pictures and the test speak for themselves.
I get the point about trying to manipulate the scores to discredit a source, and no one will ever know the truth except me. But FUCK, I have to much shit to do with 2 babies, a wife, full time 40 hour a week job, a 14 year old step son in high school, working out 8 hours a week and cardio 3-4 hours a week (most of the time LOL).

As you can tell I have much better things to do than to waist my precious time trying to discredit a source.

I AM TELL MY TRUE STORY. THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.

People will take from this what they want, but The amount of post shouldn't mean shit. That just shows people that I'm new to the community, not that I'm lying.


This has never been about the source, it's been about the people in this community.

Never said you were lying.. no reason to believe you are but to be honest anything is possible.Just making a point, its just as easy to post bullshit manipulated test scores as it is to carry on for months about how great results are on something, all feedback is valuable to some extent and someone popping up with 1 good or bad test score isnt the holygrail..Someone can manipultate test scores in the 50+ and make the source seem like the pimpjuice and it could be compete shit, just as well as someone could put up tampered with low scores for personal gain.Take it with a grain of salt.ivee seen both happen before multiple times

ive worked on 3 source boards over a 6 year span and i seen alot of crooked shit happen .Some guys on here have even more experience then me in this area,god bless them..Some noobs wont get all the possible angles or think im full of shit, and thats cool too. BUT Lets give things time to play out and develop boys.Lets keep the test scores comming. Mass numbers dont lie and feedback can only help and is welcome also.

 

[Iwillrunyoudown]

Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.

 

[Sammyjax]

I believe whatever can be logically deduced from clear evidence, but when money is involved, I always suspect manipulation, but take into consideration the laws of business and reputation.

Much anabolic, so muscle.

 

[Serotonin]

That reaction to GH is common with 192

Shouldn't happen with 191

Either way that doesn't mean its fake lol

fukin noobs

Bunch of noobs around here

Don't speak in absolutes until you have educated yourself

"OMG ITS FAKE BECAUSE RED WELTS GUYS!!!!!"

More like you're having a reaction. Just like I had. And I got mine tested. They are good.

 

[Serotonin]

Pin it IM instead of Sub Q and watch the red welts not happen

Boom. Problem solved.

 

[rb3b3]

That reaction to GH is common with 192

Shouldn't happen with 191

Either way that doesn't mean its fake lol

fukin noobs

Bunch of noobs around here

Don't speak in absolutes until you have educated yourself

"OMG ITS FAKE BECAUSE RED WELTS GUYS!!!!!"

More like you're having a reaction. Just like I had. And I got mine tested. They are good.

did you see the ops blood test posted on page 2 of this thread?

 

[Serotonin]

did you see the ops blood test posted on page 2 of this thread?

I do now. Who knows if the guy is lying or not. I just laughed at the fact that the OP says "fake" when there is no proof in the OP. Just speculation and improper information about 191 and 192. Even if there are lab results, who is this guy and can he give references to prove his credibility? Anyone can write anything they want when they are anonymous. For all I know its a competing source. There is a possibility it is Kiefe, but this is the first bad news I have heard about them and I personally know a lot of guys that use this brand with no problem. It could have been a bad batch if the guy isn't lying. That's possible. GH is a whole other ballgame. Lots of shadiness all around when it comes to GH. I'd like to see a few guys on here step up to the plate and confirm that the OP is a legitimate guy.

 

[insertnamehere]

I do now. Who knows if the guy is lying or not. I just laughed at the fact that the OP says "fake" when there is no proof in the OP. Just speculation and improper information about 191 and 192. Even if there are lab results, who is this guy and can he give references to prove his credibility? Anyone can write anything they want when they are anonymous. For all I know its a competing source. There is a possibility it is Kiefe, but this is the first bad news I have heard about them and I personally know a lot of guys that use this brand with no problem. It could have been a bad batch if the guy isn't lying. That's possible. GH is a whole other ballgame. Lots of shadiness all around when it comes to GH. I'd like to see a few guys on here step up to the plate and confirm that the OP is a legitimate guy.

Whos going to come in and vouch for you?

 

[Serotonin]

Whos going to come in and vouch for you?

I could have one person I know on here who's been posting for a while vouch. I could also have a handful of other people if I wanted. But I'm not the one who's at question am I.

If you're gonna believe everything you read on here then you're just as much of a problem as everyone else who is speaking in absolutes. It could be a BS post or he could have done a real test. After that is cleared up there is still the matter of the lab results and if they are in fact legitimate or not. If it was a legit lab test done correctly then was it HGH Powers fault or the manufacturers fault or his middleman's fault if he has one. So many variables. Bottom line is yes, read reviews and yes keep posting reviews, but don't believe everything you read and at the end of the day test your own shit yourself because you can only do so much research online. GH has a lot of risk behind it. Both for the seller and the buyer. It would be too bad if HGH Power lost his good rep over one bad review that we don't even know is legit. Think for yourself instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

 

[musicboy]

I could have one person I know on here who's been posting for a while vouch. I could also have a handful of other people if I wanted. But I'm not the one who's at question am I.

If you're gonna believe everything you read on here then you're just as much of a problem as everyone else who is speaking in absolutes. It could be a BS post or he could have done a real test. After that is cleared up there is still the matter of the lab results and if they are in fact legitimate or not. If it was a legit lab test done correctly then was it HGH Powers fault or the manufacturers fault or his middleman's fault if he has one. So many variables. Bottom line is yes, read reviews and yes keep posting reviews, but don't believe everything you read and at the end of the day test your own shit yourself because you can only do so much research online. GH has a lot of risk behind it. Both for the seller and the buyer. It would be too bad if HGH Power lost his good rep over one bad review that we don't even know is legit. Think for yourself instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

That would suck for HGH P if they were to lose their rep over one bad test! But it hasn't been one bad test retard. Take ur own advice and do some research before u say shit. There hav been numerous post for others showing bad results.
And for the comment of "just pin IM and red welts are gone! Problem solved!" That's just ignorant and plain dumb!!! Why would anyone risk their health just to see if uhhh legit. F-that!!! If I know I'm getting a reaction, why pin again!!! IMO that's just stupid!
And I don't give a shit if anyone believes me or not!! I just post my experience!
If people would just post their experiences as well....bloods, everyone could make a better decision with what they want to believe or not.


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[rb3b3]

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I could have one person I know on here who's been posting for a while vouch. I could also have a handful of other people if I wanted. But I'm not the one who's at question am I.

If you're gonna believe everything you read on here then you're just as much of a problem as everyone else who is speaking in absolutes. It could be a BS post or he could have done a real test. After that is cleared up there is still the matter of the lab results and if they are in fact legitimate or not. If it was a legit lab test done correctly then was it HGH Powers fault or the manufacturers fault or his middleman's fault if he has one. So many variables. Bottom line is yes, read reviews and yes keep posting reviews, but don't believe everything you read and at the end of the day test your own shit yourself because you can only do so much research online. GH has a lot of risk behind it. Both for the seller and the buyer. It would be too bad if HGH Power lost his good rep over one bad review that we don't even know is legit. Think for yourself instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

im going to say that your on kefies think they are great, but havent had a blood test on them.. i can vouch for musicboy, he is a great dude, and an honest one at that!

 

[stretch512]

Stop whining and just go use Pharma... Duh! I don't think that for one second Cane or SD would be promoting bull shit. Anything can happen I have a had reactions to peptides and GH - not as bad as the OP but fuck sake just move on - it can fucking happen since the world is not perfect - no reason to let this drag on like a dead horse being whipped.

 

[Serotonin]

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im going to say that your on kefies think they are great, but havent had a blood test on them.. i can vouch for musicboy, he is a great dude, and an honest one at that!

Good guess. I might think the same thing if it was reversed. But nope. I'm on other generics through a different source and I get them for much cheaper than probably anyone else gets them on this entire board. I'm glad someone can vouch for him. That does help.

 

[CP3]

About the red welts.. I got some from these black tops i'm using but after a couple of weeks it stopped happening, take that for what its worth.