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Hi Evolutionary, new member here,

I'm a novice looking to unleash more potential. I've done PH cycles and recently finished some DMZ and OstaRx. For something that isn't anything powerful, my body responded to it quite well and I only did 5 weeks. I'm currently cleaning out and taking a short break to clean out my body, so I'm literally lifting natural right now (not even protein).

I'm no novice to weights though (20+ years of lifting and former trainer).

Now my stack idea:

LGD (already purchased)
Ostarine
GW (already purchased)

What should I run DURING this cycle as far as protection goes? HCGenerate? I've researched and I've researched some more but I'm a bit confused on what the best protection should be while cycling. I'm super eager to take the plunge but I'm also not stupid and I want to do it right. This site is fantastic as a resource but I came out of the lurker phase to get acquainted.

Also, suggestions for post-cycle therapy? I see a lot of recommendations but I feel what I'd be taking is more mild compared to stronger gear but I'd like to start smaller and progress slowly so I don't peak.

What do you suggest brothers??? Thank you for any help in advance!!!!

Jon
 
LGD and ostarine are very minimally suppressive of HPTA and natural testosterone production. With your cycle run HCGenerate at 5 capsules/day to keep suppression of your natural testosterone production to a minimum.

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

SARMS are minimally suppressive, there is no risk of aromatization (therefore no estrogen related side effects) and legal to use. You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com
 
That is the main beauty of SARMS - they are extremely safe with very few side effects. Therefore, at most you will need to run HCGenerate during the cycle. As for the PCT, @Muskate has recommended a very good PCT that will guarantee perfect recovery after the cycle. Some people are well off with just nolvadex or clomid, but it is better to be safe, rather than sorry, so it is recommended to run the PCT as @muskate has outlaid, just a good reassurance.
 
Great idea to run SARMS this time around. I hope you make that your last PH cycle. HCGenerate is a great choice to run during your cycle. It will keep that minimal suppression at bay. Follow the mini pct and you will have a great run.
 
@Muskate,

Your advice is greatly appreciated and that answers all my questions in one post! I'm glad I joined just for that information (should've joined sooner). I see the max is @12 weeks but should I push at least 8? Is there a justification to go to 12 week? Any other pitfalls I may want to watch out for on this stack?

@LevButlerov,

Thanks for the assurance, that's what I was hoping to get from Evolutionary!

@Masonic Bodybuilder,

Trust me bro, if I could get my hands on the real McCoy, I would. Just don't know where to scoop it up. I've avoided PEDs my whole life (never had anything against them). I want to push my experience much further as I have nothing left to prove natural. I'd love HGH but again, it's knowing someone who knows someone. I go to a mostly clean gym too, so that doesn't help.

You guys are all very knowledgeable and I truly appreciate all the advice!!!!!
 
ToxicWaste said:
@Muskate,

Your advice is greatly appreciated and that answers all my questions in one post! I'm glad I joined just for that information (should've joined sooner). I see the max is @12 weeks but should I push at least 8? Is there a justification to go to 12 week? Any other pitfalls I may want to watch out for on this stack?

@LevButlerov,

Thanks for the assurance, that's what I was hoping to get from Evolutionary!

@Masonic Bodybuilder,

Trust me bro, if I could get my hands on the real McCoy, I would. Just don't know where to scoop it up. I've avoided PEDs my whole life (never had anything against them). I want to push my experience much further as I have nothing left to prove natural. I'd love HGH but again, it's knowing someone who knows someone. I go to a mostly clean gym too, so that doesn't help.

You guys are all very knowledgeable and I truly appreciate all the advice!!!!!
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Building muscle is a slow process. Extending your cycle to 12 weeks simply gives your body more time with the compounds in your body and more time to build muscle as a result.

I would do a minimum 8 week cycle, ideally 12.
 
You will have nice results with the sarms run. Stick around for a while buddy...sources are here for you should you decide to run AAS at some point. We are all here to help!
 
ToxicWaste

Did you have any side effects with the PH's? I have read they are worse than AAS in many ways. No experience myself. Just curious.
 
Craig Wilson said:
ToxicWaste

Did you have any side effects with the PH's? I have read they are worse than AAS in many ways. No experience myself. Just curious.
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Yes, they can cause some bad side effects. Personally, I have never used them for this reason, but many people I know did use them. First of all, most of them are extremely liver toxic - much more than things like Anavar or Winstrol. Then again, they will cause estrogen increases, and can lead to gynecomastia. It is important to remember, that the fact that some people don't get these side effects, does not mean that they can not get those....so it is better to opt for either steroids or SARMS.
 
Craig Wilson said:
ToxicWaste

Did you have any side effects with the PH's? I have read they are worse than AAS in many ways. No experience myself. Just curious.
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As stated above, avoid pro hormones. Besides, the "good ones" are banned and for good reasons. Garbage was blowing livers out. Besides, SARMs are about the same cost (got mine from SAMS1).


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I'm starting my SARMs regiment tomorrow morning (only 8:30pm here right now).

Do I have this right for Ostarine and GW?
25mg ONCE a day for Ostarine
20mg ONCE a day for GW
??? Not sure what I should be doing for LGD intake.
5 caps of HCGenerate daily (even off training days?)

Thanks brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hi ,
though i am myself a newbie like you but the understanding i have about SARMs, says that you nee to split you dose for GW in AM/PM does, depending upon when you workout one dose should be before your workout and another after around 12 hours.

Ostrine can be dosed once daily in AM. LGD seem to have a half life of around 30 hours so a dose daily would work fine, what should be the dose? evo article says 5-10mg per day for 8 weeks.
 
Man I feel stupid right now but everything mentions mgs but the dropper says ml. 25mgs would almost be the whole bottle. Any help on this understanding??
 
Toxicwaste

The does are Mg/Ml so there might be 25mg in one Ml of Ostarine. The dropper is likely a 1 Ml dropper, so if you want 25mg of Ostarine, you take one full dropper.

I have LGD from sarms1 and the bottle says 10mg/ml and there are 30ml in the bottle. So I have 30 doses of 10mg of lgd. If I want to dose 5mg, I use half the dropper.

No worries.
 
Thanks a lot for the explanation. I half dosed my Ostarine and LGD then. Did basically a half dropper for each. Did a half dropper of Cardarine but doing another later.

Thanks again!
 
I just wanted to update the forum and guests on my overall progress so far. I've been using my stack for just over 3 weeks only (LGD, Cardarine and Ostarine) and for the non-believers, believe the power of these beasts. The only odd side effect I've gotten that I can tell is a change in the way my sweat smells (only my underarms). It's more pungent but nothing more deodorant can't fix.

The pumps that come from the LGD and Osta are unreal. They give you the ability to power through workouts and get those extra pumps. Recovery is amazing as well. I've lost about 8 pounds and I even low T throughout this whole trial.

I do have one question for the pros though: Money is tight as we bought a house. Which SARM would you suggest after I run out of LGD and Osta and need to reorder (before it runs out): LGD or Osta? I'm looking to pack the muscle on. I can take care of weight on my own, so I've ruled out Cardarine.

Thanks bros!!!!!!!!!!!
 
ToxicWaste said:
I just wanted to update the forum and guests on my overall progress so far. I've been using my stack for just over 3 weeks only (LGD, Cardarine and Ostarine) and for the non-believers, believe the power of these beasts. The only odd side effect I've gotten that I can tell is a change in the way my sweat smells (only my underarms). It's more pungent but nothing more deodorant can't fix.

The pumps that come from the LGD and Osta are unreal. They give you the ability to power through workouts and get those extra pumps. Recovery is amazing as well. I've lost about 8 pounds and I even low T throughout this whole trial.

I do have one question for the pros though: Money is tight as we bought a house. Which SARM would you suggest after I run out of LGD and Osta and need to reorder (before it runs out): LGD or Osta? I'm looking to pack the muscle on. I can take care of weight on my own, so I've ruled out Cardarine.

Thanks bros!!!!!!!!!!!
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I would pick LGD over ostarine if you can only pick one. LGD is much stronger. Ostarine is primarily an anti-catabolic drug that was developed for preventing muscle loss in people with muscle wasting diseases.
 
LGD would definitely be the better one to keep up with the progress you are making, so I would choose that. I am glad to see that things are working out well for you with SARMS - they really work, and the best thing is that there are no side effects.
 
How are you responding to the vision sides? I've done a 2 PH epistane cycles in the past with minimal to no sides. I've been thinkin of running either some sarms but the vision sides of the S4 scare me so I've been looking at 1-andro prohormones but now I'm thinking I might've well jus pin some test
 
Kingin23 said:
How are you responding to the vision sides? I've done a 2 PH epistane cycles in the past with minimal to no sides. I've been thinkin of running either some sarms but the vision sides of the S4 scare me so I've been looking at 1-andro prohormones but now I'm thinking I might've well jus pin some test
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Don't do PHs bro. Stay far away. I'm doing LGD and loving it. I have not done S4, so I can't attest to the vision concerns. However, I've read plenty that if it's abused, that's how you could possibly get vision issues. They do go away though. Trust me when I say, LGD is NO JOKE and I'm only 3 weeks in.
 
ToxicWaste said:
Don't do PHs bro. Stay far away. I'm doing LGD and loving it. I have not done S4, so I can't attest to the vision concerns. However, I've read plenty that if it's abused, that's how you could possibly get vision issues. They do go away though. Trust me when I say, LGD is NO JOKE and I'm only 3 weeks in.
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LGD standalone? How long do u plan on running your cyclE for? Are u bulking or cutting?
 
I'm currently on LGD, Ostarine and Cardarine. However, money is tight after our home purchase, so as you can see I asked the gurus what the best SARM is out of the 3 for packing on muscle and that would be LGD. So I'm bulking. I don't compete, I bodybuild, so I have no need to cut.

You're smart to ask questions. I was hoping my post would help others! Just get some LGD from SARMS1 and some HCGENERATE and take it for 8-12 weeks. Three weeks in and I'm loving it. No sides either. Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask!
 
ToxicWaste said:
I'm currently on LGD, Ostarine and Cardarine. However, money is tight after our home purchase, so as you can see I asked the gurus what the best SARM is out of the 3 for packing on muscle and that would be LGD. So I'm bulking. I don't compete, I bodybuild, so I have no need to cut.

You're smart to ask questions. I was hoping my post would help others! Just get some LGD from SARMS1 and some HCGENERATE and take it for 8-12 weeks. Three weeks in and I'm loving it. No sides either. Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask!
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Are u running HCgenerate on cycle or post cycle? What is your PCT looking like?
 
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