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​Hi coach !!

i have a question id like to ask and i hope ill hear from you as this has been going on for so long !

My recent blood test results :

My LH is 4.13 (1.50-9.30)

FSH 4.09 ( 1.40 - 18.10)

Prolactin 7.23 ( 2.10 - 17.70)

Free test 5.20 (2.6 - 9.79)

TSH 3RD generation 1.804 ( 0.55 - 4.78)

Estrdoil 37.98 ( ND - 39.8 )

i have facing ubnormality for almost 5 years after taking a cycle of steroids , where libido and strength and motivation got low. my prolactin back then was as high as the upper level and doctors started prescribing me parlodel and dostonex for it where it worked amazingly but made me feel lke garbage and worse after stopping them !

the problem with doctors that they never asked about estradiol tests !!!! and i believe that was my problem .. today i made a test and got those results .. can someone please tell me what to do ?

shall i use armoasin ? or can i use a product called AD3-PCT by lecheek where it says it lowers estrogen and prolactin at the same time ??

id appreciate any !!

my status now : I'm way better than before however libido is low, sexually I'm far from normal but i can perform however sensitivity is very low , ive gained weight ( NOT MUCH THO ) i am 1.84 M height and 88 kgs weight .. i feel i hatve water retention mostly lower area. and my power at gym is very low as in whenever i try to go back to the gym and i work out i feel like garbage and irritated afterwards which makes me stop. and i notice the more i work out the more hair i lose ( i believe that's because of the high estradiol levels ! )

to make things short as i don't want to go over my life story and borden you , these are the latest blood test results, I'm glad that prolactin got way lower than before and i believe my only issue now is estraoil !

PS : for pct i only used clomid at high dosages ( yes i know i was stupid and had no clue ) which made me very DRY. and test results after that pct was very high testestrone and prolactin was at upper limit and as i mentioned doctors never asked for estradiol tets.

looking forward to hear from you coach :)

​
 
Hi

thanks for the reply .. nope but i tried vitamins like VIt D3 and stuff where they worked however things went bad after stopping them . the problem is i never tested my estradoil ..

anyways am thinking of taking aromasin but i need guidance !! im dont trying stuff !!!!

what i see from my chart is that thank god all my galnds are working fine and its just a matter of lowering estradoil and giving the keys back to testrone to run its business !!
 
I have a couple questions.
1 ~ What's your Current BF% or a close approximation
2 ~ Did you get your Total Test done, if so, what is it.................................................... JP


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If I did the Conversion correctly.
You are about 6' tall and 190 Lbs.
 
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Your blood work honestly doesn't seem that bad to me. Redo the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Get blood work done again 4 weeks after finishing the protocol.

What does your current diet and training program look like? Are you strength training? Eating a well balanced diet? I honestly feel like you could fix your problem by following a proper diet and strength training 4-5 days per week.
 
muskate said:
Your blood work honestly doesn't seem that bad to me. Redo the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Get blood work done again 4 weeks after finishing the protocol.

What does your current diet and training program look like? Are you strength training? Eating a well balanced diet? I honestly feel like you could fix your problem by following a proper diet and strength training 4-5 days per week.
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I agree. Try to redo it and get bloods. It honestly doesn't seem that bad though.
 
Thanks guys for the reply

the doctor only asked for Free test , but i have done alot of times the total test and its always in the mid range. i have tried my times to go and train like the old days but whenever i do i feel irritated and get very tired and i notice losing hair !

as mentioned now that god prolactin went down as usually its in the higher ranger and slightly above range. im 31 years old now and my height is 184 cm and i believe i have water retention mostly in lower body.

i do agree that my charts are not bad !! and its a matter of a tweek ! thats why im thinking about this product called AD3-PCT by lecheek where it has aramstine to lower estrogen and cortisol which might be the reason behind irritation if i work out. mucuna which will keep prolactin in control and milk thistle for liver support .. such a product isnt harsh at all right ?? have anyone any idea about this product ?

and im thinking to get a good non GMO protein powder , gluten powder for faster recovery , some HG support like arginine , BCAAs powder as well .. what do you guys think ??
 
regarding my diet , whenever i try to eat more vegetables and lose the carbs i start to feel like crap and i cant sleep !! i try my best to eat healthy like chicken breats and rice and whole grain toasts

fat percentage i have no clue as in i feel i have more water retention than fat i believe, id say about 15-20 %
 
Hi!
I think your libido problems are caused by high estradiol. Human organism check test level by looking at estradiol level, that is why anti-estrogens such as Tamox, increases your testosteron level on pct by blocking estrogens. You need to diminish your estradiol first of all and test will grow.
Also, high estradiol partailly cause your bad mood and irritation. It is psychological effects of estrogens (google about estrogen and emotions/mood).
Maybe any soft anti-estrogens can help (SOFT, not Tamox). Search for them.
 
Soft ? Like what ?? U mean the ingredients used in lecheeks ad3 pct are harsh? Even if lets say i take half the dose for lets say 2 weeks or 3 ?

I really need good advise as am sick of trying different stuff which always back fire ! Am sure its the estradoil level that needs to get low but how to do it with trigering anything else to fo wrong !
 
Obbie said:
Soft ? Like what ?? U mean the ingredients used in lecheeks ad3 pct are harsh? Even if lets say i take half the dose for lets say 2 weeks or 3 ?

I really need good advise as am sick of trying different stuff which always back fire ! Am sure its the estradoil level that needs to get low but how to do it with trigering anything else to fo wrong !
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bro im not really clear on your question...i suggest you redo your pct by doing Perfect PCT
http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

that should fix the problem bro...
 
Obbie said:
Soft ? Like what ?? U mean the ingredients used in lecheeks ad3 pct are harsh? Even if lets say i take half the dose for lets say 2 weeks or 3 ?

I really need good advise as am sick of trying different stuff which always back fire ! Am sure its the estradoil level that needs to get low but how to do it with trigering anything else to fo wrong !
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Maybe, proviron will be good. It works as soft antiestrogen and increases libido. It also increases free test
But you should better ask doctor for advice
 
somatropius said:
Maybe, proviron will be good. It works as soft antiestrogen and increases libido. It also increases free test
But you should better ask doctor for advice
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Agree. For libido, Proviron is tops for me and I feel great on it. My mood is very good on proviron.

Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
 
Obbie said:
regarding my diet , whenever i try to eat more vegetables and lose the carbs i start to feel like crap and i cant sleep !! i try my best to eat healthy like chicken breats and rice and whole grain toasts

fat percentage i have no clue as in i feel i have more water retention than fat i believe, id say about 15-20 %
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I follow a high protein, high carbohydrate, low fat diet as well. Some fat still needs to be included in your diet plan however. They are called essential fatty acids for a reason. Incorporate red meat a few times per week into your diet, supplement with a quality fish oil every day and try to eat a few whole eggs multiple times per week.

Dietary fat is needed for normal hormone production - especially testosterone.

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Obbie said:
Soft ? Like what ?? U mean the ingredients used in lecheeks ad3 pct are harsh? Even if lets say i take half the dose for lets say 2 weeks or 3 ?

I really need good advise as am sick of trying different stuff which always back fire ! Am sure its the estradoil level that needs to get low but how to do it with trigering anything else to fo wrong !
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Everyone keeps telling you the same thing. Re-do the perfect PCT protocol exactly as it is laid out here: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
 
I will tell the same thing that has already been said many times here - redo the PCT, and do the perfect PCT. It should solve the problem.
 
Thanks all for your replies

can someone please explain why shall i repeat all this pct !! i have everything working , why shall i take all these stuff for a whole month !

i believe i only need something just to lower estradoil without affecting other hormones , as once u lower estrogen things will go back perfect !

im just thinking whether to use armoasin or aramastaine and how shall i use them ??? and mike show , how can i use nolva and clomid for my case ?
 
Obbie said:
Thanks all for your replies

can someone please explain why shall i repeat all this pct !! i have everything working , why shall i take all these stuff for a whole month !

i believe i only need something just to lower estradoil without affecting other hormones , as once u lower estrogen things will go back perfect !

im just thinking whether to use armoasin or aramastaine and how shall i use them ??? and mike show , how can i use nolva and clomid for my case ?
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bro use aromasin....12.5mgs EOD
 
Obbie said:
Thanks all for your replies

can someone please explain why shall i repeat all this pct !! i have everything working , why shall i take all these stuff for a whole month !

i believe i only need something just to lower estradoil without affecting other hormones , as once u lower estrogen things will go back perfect !

im just thinking whether to use armoasin or aramastaine and how shall i use them ??? and mike show , how can i use nolva and clomid for my case ?
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Aromasin at 12.5 mgs EOD should do the trick. However, remember, that you can't just change some hormones without the other ones being affected. This is the reason why everybody here recommended you to do the perfect PCT - because it takes into consideration many hormones and factors.
 
Baldur2630 said:
Yeah, perfect if you happen to live in the USA and can get such shit as HCGenerate, but for the poor sods in Europe, it's no help whatsoever!
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n2bm.com, sarms1.com and ag-guys.com all ship internationally. I live in Canada and have never had a problem receiving a package from them.
 
hi guys

the problem in where i live in dubai is that the customes ARE SOOO TOUGH !! thats why i cant get all those stuff

i can get nolva and clomid , hopefully aromasin , and stuff like this product AD3 - PCT by lycheek which has aramastaine as AI which as i know works like aromasin , L-dope which lowers prolactin and boosts test, LH and GH and milk thistle ... the problem is i can only get it online , i wana know which is their last production ingredients asi heared they changed the ingredients.

here i found someone who can get me HCgenerate but i cant trust him and hes charging 300$ !!!! thats insane !!

my idea is since all my stuff are working as my testestrone is good and LH is good and finally prolactin dropped down ,i wont need any product to kick start my testies and stuff since they are already working properly , its just that this stupid estrogen needs to be lowered smoothly with proper workout

guys please if anyone has any idea about this AD3 PCT product plz share with me
 
muskate said:
n2bm.com, sarms1.com and ag-guys.com all ship internationally. I live in Canada and have never had a problem receiving a package from them.
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I tried to buy some rehydration salts from the USA. Customs her confiscated them and sent me a warning letter that I was trying to import illegal substances.

A friend sent me a box of Sharpie Fine Point pens from the USA. Customs kept them for almost a month and when I got the, one of the pens had been taken for testing. Customs her are INSANE. Nothing and I mean NOTHING, not even herbs, will ever arrive her. I wouldn't waste my money again trying. This is NOT Canada!
 
You might like to consider coming up with "The Perfect PCT" for us plebs that live in other countries where Customs see to be hostile to anything coming from the USA. We can get HCG, Clomid, Arimidex, Aromasin etc from companies like PSL that post from inside Europe, but teklling us poor sods in Europe about USA "Perfect PCT" is not even slightly helpful.
 
Obbie said:
​Hi coach !!

i have a question id like to ask and i hope ill hear from you as this has been going on for so long !

My recent blood test results :

My LH is 4.13 (1.50-9.30)

FSH 4.09 ( 1.40 - 18.10)

Prolactin 7.23 ( 2.10 - 17.70)

Free test 5.20 (2.6 - 9.79)

TSH 3RD generation 1.804 ( 0.55 - 4.78)

Estrdoil 37.98 ( ND - 39.8 )

i have facing ubnormality for almost 5 years after taking a cycle of steroids , where libido and strength and motivation got low. my prolactin back then was as high as the upper level and doctors started prescribing me parlodel and dostonex for it where it worked amazingly but made me feel lke garbage and worse after stopping them !

the problem with doctors that they never asked about estradiol tests !!!! and i believe that was my problem .. today i made a test and got those results .. can someone please tell me what to do ?

shall i use armoasin ? or can i use a product called AD3-PCT by lecheek where it says it lowers estrogen and prolactin at the same time ??

id appreciate any !!

my status now : I'm way better than before however libido is low, sexually I'm far from normal but i can perform however sensitivity is very low , ive gained weight ( NOT MUCH THO ) i am 1.84 M height and 88 kgs weight .. i feel i hatve water retention mostly lower area. and my power at gym is very low as in whenever i try to go back to the gym and i work out i feel like garbage and irritated afterwards which makes me stop. and i notice the more i work out the more hair i lose ( i believe that's because of the high estradiol levels ! )

to make things short as i don't want to go over my life story and borden you , these are the latest blood test results, I'm glad that prolactin got way lower than before and i believe my only issue now is estraoil !

PS : for pct i only used clomid at high dosages ( yes i know i was stupid and had no clue ) which made me very DRY. and test results after that pct was very high testestrone and prolactin was at upper limit and as i mentioned doctors never asked for estradiol tets.

looking forward to hear from you coach :)

​
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I need to have those same labs tested... what is the name of the battery of labs that includes those that you listed?
 
hi

sorry i didnt know that , well i asked for each hormone test seperately and i targeted the main hormones that affect a man. as u can see i have more estro than test and of course since its in the range doctor told me am fine ! doctors are clueless !!

so am thinking to take aramastaine which is an AI and block cortisol spikes as well which is a great bonus !
 
Obbie said:
hi

sorry i didnt know that , well i asked for each hormone test seperately and i targeted the main hormones that affect a man. as u can see i have more estro than test and of course since its in the range doctor told me am fine ! doctors are clueless !!

so am thinking to take aramastaine which is an AI and block cortisol spikes as well which is a great bonus !
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bro not sure what the question is...you should take aromasin
 
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