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I've done with and without eo I don't see much of a difference but I noticed that with eo I get a little bit less pip due to eo stays in the injection site longer than gso but will slightly (probably not even an issue) slow down the Ester. On the other hand I've heard of guy with allergic reactions to it but again I've never met anyone that has had bad reaction. I think it's one of them things you could use to better a finish product or could make it bad for some( rare cases) I have both on hand I use 40% eo and 60% gso though


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Hey fellow homebrewers, I got a question for you. I have been homebrewing for about 2 years now. I have always produced great stuff until a recent batch. My last batch of test enan is causing some pretty hardcore post injection pain. The injected head swells up a bit, gets a bit red and the pain lessens over about 4 or 5 days. This has never happened with my gear before. I am using the same lot of reagents, powder and consumables as my last 2 batches and followed my same technique. Any idea what could have caused the wonky batch? I don't really mind a little pain in this game, but I would like to know what could have happened. All production is done in a laboratory environment under aseptic conditions on validated equipment and I am very anal about every step. Just curious to see what you guys think.
 
gab9681 said:
Hey fellow homebrewers, I got a question for you. I have been homebrewing for about 2 years now. I have always produced great stuff until a recent batch. My last batch of test enan is causing some pretty hardcore post injection pain. The injected head swells up a bit, gets a bit red and the pain lessens over about 4 or 5 days. This has never happened with my gear before. I am using the same lot of reagents, powder and consumables as my last 2 batches and followed my same technique. Any idea what could have caused the wonky batch? I don't really mind a little pain in this game, but I would like to know what could have happened. All production is done in a laboratory environment under aseptic conditions on validated equipment and I am very anal about every step. Just curious to see what you guys think.
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Test e raws are shit right now no matter who u buy from. Carbolic acid is high and causing crippling pip. Do cyp instead for a while
 
I'm just guessing here but if it was same raw same bb ba everything I'd go with a contaminant got into your brew while brewing it. Maybe add more ba and refilter and see if that gets any better. I'm not a vet so maybe one of them can tell you if this would work.


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gab9681 said:
Hey fellow homebrewers, I got a question for you. I have been homebrewing for about 2 years now. I have always produced great stuff until a recent batch. My last batch of test enan is causing some pretty hardcore post injection pain. The injected head swells up a bit, gets a bit red and the pain lessens over about 4 or 5 days. This has never happened with my gear before. I am using the same lot of reagents, powder and consumables as my last 2 batches and followed my same technique. Any idea what could have caused the wonky batch? I don't really mind a little pain in this game, but I would like to know what could have happened. All production is done in a laboratory environment under aseptic conditions on validated equipment and I am very anal about every step. Just curious to see what you guys think.
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Powder is from a batch you already had in your possession that you've had for a while right? If so can rule out bad Raws.

Could be a number of things really, human error is possible, what ratios of solvents etc did you use? Post up some more details bro.

Same filters? What filters are they?

Carb acid can be a problem with test e but there is a way to remove it.
 
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Powder is from a batch you already had in your possession that you've had for a while right? If so can rule out bad Raws.

Could be a number of things really, human error is possible, what ratios of solvents etc did you use? Post up some more details bro.

Same filters? What filters are they?

Carb acid can be a problem with test e but there is a way to remove it.
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I'd be interested in the process of removing carb acid for future reference. If you don't mind posting it or adding a link


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Yes, raw was the same as the previous batches. And those were pretty much painless. 2% BA and 18% BB were used as I have always used. Same lot of filters. I would be really surprised if a contaminant got in there. I have 15 years of aseptic processing under my belt and all production is done in a validated HEPA filtered clean hood. I use sterile .2um filter flasks and vacuum filter the product.
 
hey brothers, I got laid off decided to brew full-time and not be any way a threat to the respected brewers on here that source. I just want to get started small time.

just get rid of main ones Decca, test undeccanate.!qq!

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caveman72 said:
hey brothers, I got laid off decided to brew full-time and not be any way a threat to the respected brewers on here that source. I just want to get started small time.

just get rid of main ones Decca, test undeccanate.!qq!

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I don't understand this post
 
messed up should of went to trade thread but people I trust is here. what's the best way to get rolling. been brewing for a short time but I use to be a cook I'm good at recipe. ha ha
want feedback. on best way too promote product

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caveman72 said:
messed up should of went to trade thread but people I trust is here. what's the best way to get rolling. been brewing for a short time but I use to be a cook I'm good at recipe. ha ha
want feedback. on best way too promote product

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Try selling some in trade thread.

With pics
 
No offense taken man. It is possible that a contaminant got in there...shit does happen. I am just super anal when it comes to my process. I have many years in both the pharma and biotech industries and have gone through extensive clean process training. But shit does happen.
 
Cleaning vs. disinfecting and dwell time....

What do most here use on surfaces and equipment before brewing? I would like to see what people use and the differing opinions on actually destroying microorganisms.

Also curious if anyone uses any eco products like Thymol.....
 
I clean surfaces with bleach regularly and I spray rubbing alcohol on all surfaces prior to brewing I also plastic off the lab and use a vent hood


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I clean surfaces with bleach regularly and I spray rubbing alcohol on all surfaces prior to brewing I also plastic off the lab and use a vent hood


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Mine is kind of samiliar....I wash/clean the areas with soap and water, then bleach, and then use Isopropyl alcohol. Ive been reading about these botanical cleaners...Im bored I guess, and thought about giving them a try.
 
I brewed some tren a Ithink turned cloudy and had brown chunks in it. First time I used source it was good. This time I think I got junk....
gso
bb .2
ba .02
this was recipe i followed. Any one else have problems with cloudy tren a? Had diff in color and smell In powder form.
 
hazmat said:
I brewed some tren a Ithink turned cloudy and had brown chunks in it. First time I used source it was good. This time I think I got junk....
gso
bb .2
ba .02
this was recipe i followed. Any one else have problems with cloudy tren a? Had diff in color and smell In powder form.
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Ya did u make 10ml of it. One vial?
 
jaybird1120 said:
Well on a side note the Home Brew Calculator (Lite version) is done for Windows here it is if you guys want to check it out . I know it needs a lot of improvement and new default values for BB and BA but until I get more input and help it can only go so far

homebrewlounge.com/downloads/HBCLite.exe

If you get an message about unknown publisher just click more info and run anyways
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How do I get a login for homebrewlounge.com??
 
krazieone56 said:
Ya did u make 10ml of it. One vial?
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No I usually make 20 to 40 ml. My first order was away me but last one was as explained. My friend said he heard some cloudy tren going around. This one had a brown gunk in it that would dissolve. Then when cooled formed a hard toffee like rock I could break with fingers.
 
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U try to filter the liquid thru a coffee filter first. Back into beaker to remove filler then reheat and double check no junk. And then u shud be able to filter more easily
 
krazieone56 said:
Ya sometimes u will get tren w a lot of binders in it still. Its frustrating
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I have bought a variety of compounds from this guy so I hope my primo e and halo are good. Specially primo. Krazie I been lurking here a while u seem like a smart guy to know if I have a recipe question it cool I ask u?
 
keep up your bullshit... you and I both know you dont know jack shit.... your just a guppy..... fuckin 217lb 6'2? lol.... WTF!!!! all that talk of I hit my shit EOD! SIX TWO AT 217?!?! bwahhahaha YEA DIP SHIT YOU GOTTA PUT IN THE WORK TOO! lol! Aint even on my level "homeboy" your nothing but a fake ass sociopath bitch... get a grip you little skinny ass bitch... mr karate kid body over here bwahahaha ! Just like DevilDawg I aint nothing but real.... wish that guy was still around to call out your fictitious ass story you call of yourself... chump... opposites dont attract.
 
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keep up your bullshit... you and I both know you dont know jack shit.... your just a guppy..... fuckin 217lb 6'2? lol.... WTF!!!! all that talk of I hit my shit EOD! SIX TWO AT 217?!?! bwahhahaha YEA DIP SHIT YOU GOTTA PUT IN THE WORK TOO! lol! Aint even on my level "homeboy" your nothing but a fake ass sociopath bitch... get a grip you little skinny ass bitch... mr karate kid body over here bwahahaha ! Just like DevilDawg I aint nothing but real.... wish that guy was still around to call out your fictitious ass story you call of yourself... chump... opposites dont attract.
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I put in plenty of work. I have diff goals than you. You obviously are dumb as fuck. And now trying to be big. So you can be big and dumb. I dont care how big you are or how little u think I am. Doesn't phase me at all.
 
kraize put a cock in it already brother god dam.... how do you find the time to even attend to anything you say you do brother your fuckin on here 24/7.... guy's taking a shit, hears the alert of a comment and he probably gets up running for the screen, tripping over his panties he forgot were at his ankles.... give it a rest brother..."Do you even lift bro?" AHAHA
 
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kraize put a cock in it already brother god dam.... how do you find the time to even attend to anything you say you do brother your fuckin on here 24/7.... guy's taking a shit, hears the alert of a comment and he probably gets up running for the screen, tripping over his panties he forgot were at his ankles.... give it a rest brother..."Do you even lift bro?" AHAHA
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Damn dude. This shit is getting old bro. Can we drop the bullshit and carry on with shit that matters?
 
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kraize put a cock in it already brother god dam.... how do you find the time to even attend to anything you say you do brother your fuckin on here 24/7.... guy's taking a shit, hears the alert of a comment and he probably gets up running for the screen, tripping over his panties he forgot were at his ankles.... give it a rest brother..."Do you even lift bro?" AHAHA
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10,000 posts in under 1 year.... Says it all bro
 
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kraize put a cock in it already brother god dam.... how do you find the time to even attend to anything you say you do brother your fuckin on here 24/7.... guy's taking a shit, hears the alert of a comment and he probably gets up running for the screen, tripping over his panties he forgot were at his ankles.... give it a rest brother..."Do you even lift bro?" AHAHA
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Its called a cell phone you cunt. I'm sorry can you not multi task?
 
I hope I'm not on at a bad time I got some primo acetate powder was hoping someone had recipe for the injection. and also oral solution recipe. I got ten grams still haven't decided which way to go on this compound

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after doing alot of reading I should of got enanthate as far as pip. I appreciate I lost this one site I had that had every recipe on it.

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I do got g.s.o. BA. bb. just don't have recipe for ten gram. 100 mg a mill. and I heard pip was worse than anything . pip from prop don't touch me maybe this ain't as bad as they say

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Primo ace will hurt at 100mg bro.

Don't waste what you've got by brewing an unusable painful product. It's too expensive to waste.

Keep it at 50-75mg/ml...

2% BA
15% BB
Rest oil of your choice
 
help me bro I got ten grams mixed with two mills of BA.and 20 mill's of bb. and got at the most hundred twenty five g.s.o. why would that be wasting if it needs ill add oil later but if I put all the oil I got knock it down to 80 mills you got me tripping is it the pip.or the suspension you're talking about.

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Right bro, if I'm understanding correctly, you already have of mixed, oh and for the record, it seems like you are using .75 as your powder weight, stop doing that as it's not accurate... In fact none are totally accurate nowadays as purity is not what it once was but that's another matter, 0.9 is a good average to go off across the board, but there are more accurate ways but anyway, just follow below and all will be fine...

Im assuming you already have a mix of 10g powder, 2ml BA, 20ml BB and 70.5ml GSO...

Add an extra 0.8ml BA, 1ml BB and 37ml oil...

This will give you a brew of just over 71mg/ml at 2% BA, 15% BB. And should be a lot easier to deal with than your original recipe providing it's brewed correctly..
 
so should I add all the oil I got and leave the rest as is its clear suspended in solvents I just was drawing out oil getting it heated so what you think bros. I have 128 guessing mills of oil should I add it all help with pip.or stick to 100mg.

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so should I add all the oil I got and leave the rest as is its clear suspended in solvents I just was drawing out oil getting it heated so what you think bros. I have 128 guessing mills of oil should I add it all help with pip.or stick to 100mg.

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100mg/ml IS going to hurt, eben primo enanthate can hurt at that dose, your best chance is going of what I said above, even then there is still a chance of pip, but won't be as bad as 100mg would be
 
I added all I had came to just under 175mills on Pyrex. putting in vials thanks I'll let you know how bad it hurts couple days

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it came out okay. I got pip as expected not that bad feels like the first time I did prop ever in pain scale.kinda got fluish symptoms but might be sick. thanks Brewster I'm glad I knocked it down cause it would be annoying. see my plan is to keep taking testprop at a moderate dose.and take a high dose of primo ace and I'm on enanthate plus taking jintropin hgh.wanna see what happens next gonna see if eventually I can just do primo and hgh we'll see

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caveman72 said:
it came out okay. I got pip as expected not that bad feels like the first time I did prop ever in pain scale.kinda got fluish symptoms but might be sick. thanks Brewster I'm glad I knocked it down cause it would be annoying. see my plan is to keep taking testprop at a moderate dose.and take a high dose of primo ace and I'm on enanthate plus taking jintropin hgh.wanna see what happens next gonna see if eventually I can just do primo and hgh we'll see

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I'm trying to understand why you want ted primo acetate. Primo is meant to be run long weeks for best results. Its not a blasting type compound
 
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it came out okay. I got pip as expected not that bad feels like the first time I did prop ever in pain scale.kinda got fluish symptoms but might be sick. thanks Brewster I'm glad I knocked it down cause it would be annoying. see my plan is to keep taking testprop at a moderate dose.and take a high dose of primo ace and I'm on enanthate plus taking jintropin hgh.wanna see what happens next gonna see if eventually I can just do primo and hgh we'll see

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No problem bro, like I said, pop could always be an issue, which is why I said 50-75mg... 50mg may have been much easier on the pip, but a lot of oil to jab I know..

Mix your shot when poss with the test e, but if running test e then as said above, primo enan would have been a better choice
 
I'm am running primo enanthate paxtons and running my test prop ill mix with my prop shit is sore but I can tell muscle will get use to it

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Dam yea i'd have suggested to mix them for sure but no doubt primo causes pip, I get no pip from prop, love prop but I can def. say primo has been taxing but nothing thats ever made me severely crippled.... So your running primo enan. with test P. correct? Im not confused right? So no Test E?
 
was running test prop and recently two weeks ago got on primo E. then made primo a.and did one to test plan on Just being on test p.mixed with primo a. and I'm on jintropin been on two weeks

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tired of concretion if possible and still grow slow I'd rather dump test and high primo and hgh do you brothers think this could turn out ok for some one with good genetics

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Where can one purchase a decent filter vacuum ( not sure of the exact name for it) I'm in the middle of doing 750ml tonight and probably won't be able to jerk off for a few days... Any suggestions to help me get back to my regular pornhub routine would be great.


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Fuck I was just next door to one eating dinner that'll be on my list for tomorrow what's the make and model


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Wait I think I have one of those... I mean one that plugs in the wall and stays at 10-15psi. My other choice is my buddys cousin I'll have him do it all for a vial.


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OdieM said:
Any of y'all heard of SomaGenix.com??? I know I'm not breaking any rules by mentioning him. I saw where that is his handle here. He also popped up on Meso and bought an ad. I have talked with him and I just received some testE. His website looks good but that don't mean much. I'm just wanting to know if y'all have any feed back? I have another guy that I go through but I sure would like soma to be the real deal.
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So how u like his test e? I'm curious looking around for new guy?
 
Dude Jay just grab a water aspirator brother I keep F'n telling people and its like no one knows what im even talking about look bro...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dynalon...040?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58bcff7020

Just like whats used in chemistry course labs, just hook that bitch up to the faucet, crank the cold water and bam.... Plenty of vacuum, dont literally crank it obviously lol but youll be able to tell if your water pressure is just right. BTW F this guy $50.00 my ass, there all over online for like $15-20...... building one yourself will cost you the same trust me, and waste of time...
 
jay btw id also suggest getting one thats made of metal with a longer down spout, youll prob need to pick up the faucet adapter as well, I did...
 
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Btw what Kraize is talking about is the same thing your using lol... dont trip. just has a gauge on it...
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Ok now hold on a min. Again with the attacking. Why f this guy? Again? U just dont quit. I suggested what I use for hand application only. I would love a electric pump thats has a regulated for psi. And what I have is different then a break bleeder. Break bleeder u have to constantly pump to hold vaccum. What I have is a hand vaccum pump. With a gauge. You pump it 4-5 times. And then its starts drawing vaccum for u. And maybe every five min or so u give it another couple pumps. Damn bro u just dont know when to quit do u.
 
Thats what I use except mine has a gauge at the top and it was $30 or so at harbour freight. Man idk bury me big. I just dont understand what ur problem is w me but its getting old.
 
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Ok now hold on a min. Again with the attacking. Why f this guy? Again? U just dont quit. I suggested what I use for hand application only. I would love a electric pump thats has a regulated for psi. And what I have is different then a break bleeder. Break bleeder u have to constantly pump to hold vaccum. What I have is a hand vaccum pump. With a gauge. You pump it 4-5 times. And then its starts drawing vaccum for u. And maybe every five min or so u give it another couple pumps. Damn bro u just dont know when to quit do u.
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He saying f this guy cause of the price on ebay. Dont think that was directed towards you.


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