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I got my pack yesterday of Test prop and Turinabol.

Immediately pinned 1ml and surprisingly hardly any pip at all. I've never ran prop but I've heard it can be painful.

The pack was nice and tight with plenty of tape. Only thing I would note was the label with my name and addy was barely sticking to the pack, it actually fell off as I left the post office. They need to tape it on better.

I've been off steroids for a very long time but got on TRT about a year ago. This will be a short and sweet 8 week cycle. Need to see my endo again in 3 months.

Currently 6'2 225lbs around 13% bf.
I'm an older guy so I'm not going to push any pr's
Pre cycle bloods had my test levels at 270, will be pulling bloods around week 5 and see where we're at.
 
Forgot to mention that it's all Berd Pharmaceutical products. He was very generous and even threw in some aromasin. Plan on pinning 1.25 ml every other day with 50 mg of Tbol daily. The products look great can't wait to see what results they bring.
 
Guess I spoke too soon on the pip because it has been a pain in the ass. I'm rotating glutes and quads but it hangs around for 3-5 days. I've always heard this about the prop and I guess with me it's true. Some guys never get pip from prop apparently. This would be the case with any brand. On a high note, I'm up about 5 lbs already, been training my ass off and really working hard on the diet. It's still too early to see much but I'm pretty optimistic so far.
 
Taurus said:
Guess I spoke too soon on the pip because it has been a pain in the ass. I'm rotating glutes and quads but it hangs around for 3-5 days. I've always heard this about the prop and I guess with me it's true. Some guys never get pip from prop apparently. This would be the case with any brand. On a high note, I'm up about 5 lbs already, been training my ass off and really working hard on the diet. It's still too early to see much but I'm pretty optimistic so far.
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I cannot pin prop, it hurts too much.

try mixing the oil with a little EQ or something to take the edge off.. that really helps

up 5 pounds is great.
 
Hell, a lot of people just don't have the pinning down. It took me a good year before I got passed the virgin muscle thing and just getting the technique down . I fucked myself all the fuck up in the beginnig


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Nodnarbs said:
Hell, a lot of people just don't have the pinning down. It took me a good year before I got passed the virgin muscle thing and just getting the technique down . I fucked myself all the fuck up in the beginnig


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That's true. I believe experience and time heals all wounds. :)
 
I've done plenty of cycles so I'd say I have the pinning down. Never have gotten pip from anything else. Prop does this to a lot of people. I took Steve's advice and mixed in a bit of EQ so I'll see if that helps.
 
Sorry for the break in the log. Been diagnosed with sleep apnea recently and have done 3 different sleep studies. Been busy with work and still busting my ass in the gym. Up around 8 lbs from the start. No sides to speak of other than a bit of acne. I'm looking to pull bloods within the next week or so.
 
Thanks for the update. Glad the PIPs gotten better for ya. I know it can be a pain in the ass after a while (no pun intended).ha

If the bar isn't bending then your pretending
 
Just put in the bloodwork order with privatemd labs. Should have the test done in the next few days and results posted shortly after that. Feeling great in the gym so I'm pretty excited to get the tests.
 
Got blood drawn today, hopefully the results will be in Monday or Tuesday. I really wish I could run this cycle a bit longer than planned. Really making some nice gains but I have an appointment with my endo mid January. Going to try and push it back to February so all my numbers go back to normal.
 
Taurus said:
Got blood drawn today, hopefully the results will be in Monday or Tuesday. I really wish I could run this cycle a bit longer than planned. Really making some nice gains but I have an appointment with my endo mid January. Going to try and push it back to February so all my numbers go back to normal.
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Ya same here. Got mine on the 16th i think. Hopefully the day i get the blood draw ill have everything i need to start. Ill take before and after pics so everyone can make their own opinion. Thanks for keeping us updated on your log.

If the bar isn't bending then your pretending
 
Hey guys I got my labs back. Trying to figure out how to download them here. I did screw up and only got the 1500 max test, sorry
 
Tried imgur and tinypic, can't get either one to upload off my iPad. I don't have a desktop. Any computer aces out there willing to help me post the bloods?
 
Emailed the labs to Tadeas. I was having lots of problems with gyno so I ordered the female tests to see where my estradiol is at. Is there a test that shows the total test numbers AND the estradiol? Anyway I'm probably going to go ahead and retest the TOTAL testosterone labs so I can give you guys the actual number. I'm curious myself but I can assure you this prop is good shit. I've made good gains and have had gyno and acne sides. Good strength increases as well, especially my legs. Im not a young guy anymore but my knees are saying no more but my quads are saying load it up. Gotta be safe at my age. I'm not too sure I'll ever run TBOL again, didn't notice much from it. I know it's a weaker steroid but I prefer to run Anadrol or Dbol.
 
Blood tests results for berd pharmaceutical from Taurus, he emailed asking to post.

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okay Taurus hit me up wanting me to analyze this.. he was concerned with the high neutrophils and ALT.

neutrophils being high is most likely not steroid related.. it likely means you have some sort of infection, high white blood cells. the high ALT is normal cause you ran Tbol. it will come back down to earth when you cycle off.

otherwise looks good, if you want to run bloods that aren't capped make sure you get the LC/MS when you order, otherwise it will only go up to 1500.
 
I believe he's talking about my pre cycle bloods from my endo, which was at 270. I switched from androgel to injections prior to the 270 test numbers and he only had me taking 0.4ml which is 80 mg a week of test. When he saw the numbers he said he would like to increase the dosage but wanted to wait till I got my sleep apnea tested/treated, because he claims testosterone can make sleep apnea worse.
 
Taurus said:
I believe he's talking about my pre cycle bloods from my endo, which was at 270. I switched from androgel to injections prior to the 270 test numbers and he only had me taking 0.4ml which is 80 mg a week of test. When he saw the numbers he said he would like to increase the dosage but wanted to wait till I got my sleep apnea tested/treated, because he claims testosterone can make sleep apnea worse.
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Just food for thought since everybody is different but i had sleep apnea until i got on 200mg of cyp a week. Now i actually have dreams. Didnt realize that when i slept it wasnt heavy.

If the bar isn't bending then your pretending
 
WOW, that's interesting to hear. You know how doctors are, they think they know everything and that they are always right. I'm basically just jumping through hoops for them trying to get everything stable. I've been on the cpap machine for several weeks and I don't feel any difference at all.
 
Taurus said:
I believe he's talking about my pre cycle bloods from my endo, which was at 270. I switched from androgel to injections prior to the 270 test numbers and he only had me taking 0.4ml which is 80 mg a week of test. When he saw the numbers he said he would like to increase the dosage but wanted to wait till I got my sleep apnea tested/treated, because he claims testosterone can make sleep apnea worse.
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bro i didnt see that...my bad
 
Taurus said:
WOW, that's interesting to hear. You know how doctors are, they think they know everything and that they are always right. I'm basically just jumping through hoops for them trying to get everything stable. I've been on the cpap machine for several weeks and I don't feel any difference at all.
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My old mans on it the cpap as well. Helps him but hes been on TRT forever. Just started using the cpap about 2 years ago. I should also mention hes 66 and work construction still.

If the bar isn't bending then your pretending
 
No worries man, my first post- no shortages of crazies out there. But yea cycle seems to be going good with those numbers and the weight gain. It seems a lot of endos start on the low side and work their way up- it takes time but after a year should be getting close man. Plenty of endos out there if you're not comfortable with him.I'm the last guy to talk anyone out of a cycle, but maybe get you're trt dialed in solid before next cycle.
 
Shaunjohn242002 said:
No worries man, my first post- no shortages of crazies out there. But yea cycle seems to be going good with those numbers and the weight gain. It seems a lot of endos start on the low side and work their way up- it takes time but after a year should be getting close man. Plenty of endos out there if you're not comfortable with him.I'm the last guy to talk anyone out of a cycle, but maybe get you're trt dialed in solid before next cycle.
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That's probably good advice but I just couldn't wait any longer. But yes it would be prudent to have my baseline dialed in where it should be.
 
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