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Long Esters a buzz kill

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didier14

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I felt like I had to share this. Every cycle I have done involved long ester gear (test e, tren e, EQ, mast e) so I have went from injecting once a week to now twice a week. Anyways, I did my first inject for my new cycle this morning and totally regret doing another long ester cycle. I'm beyond anxious to do the next inject, although its several days away. Do others get this? Or is this how people progress to short esters? I'm so damn excited I cannot wait to do the next shot. I love the new cycle feeling.
 
didier14 said:
I felt like I had to share this. Every cycle I have done involved long ester gear (test e, tren e, EQ, mast e) so I have went from injecting once a week to now twice a week. Anyways, I did my first inject for my new cycle this morning and totally regret doing another long ester cycle. I'm beyond anxious to do the next inject, although its several days away. Do others get this? Or is this how people progress to short esters? I'm so damn excited I cannot wait to do the next shot. I love the new cycle feeling.
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Lol....I'm like that (long or short esters) for the first several weeks. It's just knowing your back ON :D

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This is why you kickstart a cycle with a short ester or an oral to get androgens and aggression built up quickly
 
I agree with jb. I like a dbol kickstart because i prefer long esters for less pinning. But ya i get excited to be back on as well. I think most do . lol
 
I read a post from a guy on a different forum who kickstarted a test E cycle by adding test prop for the first 4 weeks on top of test E. I haven't tried this and have no idea how this would work, though.
 
bigjohn83 said:
A kickstart is a must for me when running long esters
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Kickstart could help if you want. You can use Dbol, or any other compound to get it going.

Alternatively, I know people who frontload, which is more what Jmi above is talking about. You can frontload in the first week with Test so that your blood levels are immediately commensurate with what they should be once the longer esters are fully kicked in.
 
jmiyamoto said:
I read a post from a guy on a different forum who kickstarted a test E cycle by adding test prop for the first 4 weeks on top of test E. I haven't tried this and have no idea how this would work, though.
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Many guys do this. If not using an oral, this is a good option. For ex, test prop 100mg eod for 4 weeks
 
bigjohn83 said:
A kickstart is a must for me when running long esters
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I'm kickstarting with winny, I'm naturally lean and hate the bloat of dbol, and of course love that vascularity. Then closing with some mast e, it's the first time I've tried it and can't wait. The first few weeks are always so damn exciting.

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jmiyamoto said:
I read a post from a guy on a different forum who kickstarted a test E cycle by adding test prop for the first 4 weeks on top of test E. I haven't tried this and have no idea how this would work, though.
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msanchez said:
Kickstart could help if you want. You can use Dbol, or any other compound to get it going.

Alternatively, I know people who frontload, which is more what Jmi above is talking about. You can frontload in the first week with Test so that your blood levels are immediately commensurate with what they should be once the longer esters are fully kicked in.
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Like Jb said... And i do this. Prop is awesome. I pin it ED to keep better levels. It works as fast as dbol and doesn't kill the liver or cause bloat like it does.

Short esters hold a place close to my heart 💗
 
Yeezus said:
Like Jb said... And i do this. Prop is awesome. I pin it ED to keep better levels. It works as fast as dbol and doesn't kill the liver or cause bloat like it does.

Short esters hold a place close to my heart 💗
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This test ace would be an option to no?

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Yeas. If you are only running a single long estered compound and no orals, then of course you can stack the TE (if that's what you're using) with a short ester like testosterone propionate or suspension. Just be mindful of the fact that an increased dose of testosterone can elicit more side effects: bloat, acne, greasy skin, hair loss (if prone). So Forma Stanzol, Aromasin, or some other form of anti-oestrogen will be called for or at least available should you need it.
 
Labtec70 said:
Hi

Yeas. If you are only running a single long estered compound and no orals, then of course you can stack the TE (if that's what you're using) with a short ester like testosterone propionate or suspension. Just be mindful of the fact that an increased dose of testosterone can elicit more side effects: bloat, acne, greasy skin, hair loss (if prone). So Forma Stanzol, Aromasin, or some other form of anti-oestrogen will be called for or at least available should you need it.
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Yes but as seen most people don't enjoy pinning so they go with the long esters that being said they would hate TNE or Suspenion. Which also would throw your levels on a crazy roller coaster ride for the first 4 weeks of use if not pinned on the timed intervals, because... You have no "base " test level formed yet to stack on.
Make sense?
 
ozcroboy said:
bout kik start with a ph like beastdrol? or maybe too toxic to run with a long easter cycle?
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Toxicity is toxicity... The choice of ester plays no part. 4 weeks of beast to kickstart would be fine but just watch the lethargy and protect your organs
 
I really appreciate all the advice, I want to do another Kickstart with beast, that was totally amazing last time, wish the original wasn't banned.

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I always kick start with the for the first 3 weeks before I head to gym cause you get that pump of juice within like 30min. It makes me feel like the hulk. Lol. But seriously it gets me going while I wait for the long esters to build up

KRAZIEONE
 
Yeah but then you get 6 weeks in of poking yourself EOD and you start to wish you had done a long ester ! Were just never satisfied :) oh yeah then we look in the mirror and don't see the results overnight and think we should bump up the dose . Were just never satisfied :) try to just enjoy your cycle .


Caaannn Uuuu Diigg It ?
 
Flip Digler said:
Yeah but then you get 6 weeks in of poking yourself EOD and you start to wish you had done a long ester ! Were just never satisfied :) oh yeah then we look in the mirror and don't see the results overnight and think we should bump up the dose . Were just never satisfied :) try to just enjoy your cycle .


Caaannn Uuuu Diigg It ?
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Haha dude I know, I can't preload early enough or wait until the next shot. "Damn it feels good to be on cycle" -office space reference.

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didier14 said:
Haha dude I know, I can't preload early enough or wait until the next shot. "Damn it feels good to be on cycle" -office space reference.

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Hahaha. I told those effers I liked michael bolton.
 
Ya I'm gonna need to go ahead and come in on sat ya and then I'm gonna need to have come in on sun as well. We need to play a little catch up. OK peter? OK thanks

KRAZIEONE
 
I was going to post something abut how I love long esters, but I gotta go.....

(I have a meeting with the Bobs)
 
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