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Meldonium/ Mildronate

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There have been a few threads on here, and lots of articles floating around after this went on the banned list. I though I'd summarize my research and personal experience, and hopefully save others from my mistakes!

NB This thread is just about Meldonium, to hopefully stop people making a mistake trying it. Please don't fill it with posts about better alternatives (eg Cardarine/ SARMs/ Roids) There's enough threads on here on how those DO work :-).

If you research Meldonium there's generally two main aspects to how it performs:
1 - It improves blood flow
2 - It protects the heart
I tried it based on the first aspect, but really wish I'd found better articles, as it took me a lot of digging to properly understand this drug.

Meldonium is antiischemic, which means it stops things that stop blood flow, and while this may mean it improves blood flow, it's not necessarily the case. It works by blocking the use of fat for energy, which it turn prevents the production of by-products that harm the heart and arteries. Or more technically "inhibits carnitine biosynthesis in order to prevent accumulation of cytotoxic intermediate products of fatty acid beta-oxidation in ischemic tissues and to block this highly oxygen-consuming process".

In effect this means it blocks carnitine from working, and thus utilization of fat for energy. The benefit of this is it drives your body to use glucose/ glycogen, which is a quicker process, and uses less oxygen. This is where it gets its performance enhancing reputation from. In theory it means more energy/endurance.

However the downside is it blocks the use of fat for energy. This is major for many athletes, as even at a low body fat percentage there are still thousands of calories available from fat, whereas glycogen is limited by what's stored in your muscles, and what you can take in while exercising. It also means it will slow, or stop, fat loss! What's worse is I've been unable to establish how long this effect remains in place. It has a comparatively short half life, around 5 hours, however evidence has shown it can stay in your systems for months.

I think there's a place for its use:
> If you're already really lean, or not concerned about fat loss.
> If you participate in sprint events, where you need the quick access to energy.
> Medically to protect your heart.

Having spent a long time getting my system to adjust and burn fat for endurance, this was the worst thing I could have taken, and really screwed my training, and contributed to putting on fat - I'd have to put it in the don't touch it with a long pointy stick category!

- - - Updated - - -

Gah, as soon as I post I remember another point.

Another possible use for Meldonium is just before a competition, when carbing up, as it will help drive the carbs into the muscles, rather than to fat cells. This is a bit more theoretical, but seems logical, as long as the overall calorie intake isn't too excessive.
 
Seems like interesting findings to me. And regarding the information, sounds like its the last thing a bodybuilder would want to take.

Regarding your post about carbing up - I dont think it would work this way. It would use carbs as energy, but if you need to fill up muscles, your goal is to not waste the stored carbs. So in my opinion, its even bad for competitions and carbing up (you have insulin for that, or a more natural product N2Slin).
 
Meldonium (trade-named as Mildronate) is a pharmaceutical developed in 1970 by Ivars Kalviņš, Latvian Institute of Organic Synthesis (USSR), and manufactured primarily by Grindeks of Latvia. It is distributed in Eastern European countries as an anti-ischemia medication.

Meldonium is believed to work through its ability to increase the size of blood vessels and therefore improve blood flow. It is prescribed to treat coronary artery disease.

Athletes recently started doping with it for it's effects on increasing endurance. The reason the athlete were using Meldonium and not cardarine is because it has been on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) list of substances banned from use by athletes on since January 1, 2016.

Cardarine is much more effective for increasing endurance. The only reason athletes were using meldonium instead is because it wasn't banned up until recently.
If you want something to increase endurance, stick with the tried and true cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/
 
BobbaFitt - actually I think you're right, it's another strike against it.

muskate - sorry one error in your post, and it's the one I'm correcting with this thread: Meldonium does not increase the size of blood vessels, and it only improves blood flow where there has been a problem.
 
Wrong,

Meldonium takes the place of hundreds of l carnitine that usually occupie space inside the cell limiting energy production. It takes the place, saves space, and does so over and over with much less.

Blocking l carnitine biosynthesis is an effect but its a side effect of having an anologue of l carnitine that does not break down.

You're miss guided by english literature on the subject as any one could be by reading what is gathered and spread, copyed and pasted from the first american news article on and on again.
 
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