SARMS or Anavar for my girlfriend

[gaintrain87]

So my girlfriend is looking to take her training to the next level. Her diet and training are on point. Shes very lean and muscular she just wants a little more. We were looking at anavar and the sarms triple stack. ive been leaning toward the sarms because we don't want to deal with any side effects. Ive read that like %99 of women don't experience virillization from anavar but there is stil that 1 percent that does. What kind of gains can she expect to see off the SARMS triple stack based on the dosage written in this article :

http://www.evolutionary.org/steroids-and-women

 

[gaintrain87]

Also, what kind of PCT should she run after?

 

[Shellsfit]

My first cycle, 2 years ago, was var. I took 10mg 5 on 2 off for 8 weeks. It worked great. I put on some lean muscle mass, which is what I was going for. And I never really experienced any virilization. Now I've never tried SARMS and I've been meaning to read up on it. I am interested to see what some of the SARMS people have to say about it though.


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[blowingup72]

My first cycle, 2 years ago, was var. I took 10mg 5 on 2 off for 8 weeks. It worked great. I put on some lean muscle mass, which is what I was going for. And I never really experienced any virilization. Now I've never tried SARMS and I've been meaning to read up on it. I am interested to see what some of the SARMS people have to say about it though.


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Did you experience any water retention from the anavar? Any increase in weight at the beginning of the cycle? Thanks

 

[Shellsfit]

No water retention. I gained weight pretty quick the first couple of weeks then it just leveled out. But I ate clean and lifted 6 days a week. My diet and exercise were def on point.


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[delhibelly]

Anavar is cheaper and quite safe. Just add some taurine to it for the muscle cramps


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[blowingup72]

No water retention. I gained weight pretty quick the first couple of weeks then it just leveled out. But I ate clean and lifted 6 days a week. My diet and exercise were def on point.


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How quickly did the weight go up? How soon? I'm asking because a woman I know of is using the same amount but put on about 4 pounds in the first week in a half even though I know for a fact her diet was allowing her to lose weight quickly prior to use.

On other women's boards many women mention putting on some water weight when starting but that it leveled off after s few weeks.

 

[Shellsfit]

I'll be honest I put on about 8 lbs within the first two weeks. But my diet was customized for my goals. I wanted to gain. After two weeks it leveled out. I never lost the weight everything just worked out. I never felt bloated and I know my body pretty well. I've also heard women talk about water retention when they first start var.


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[muskate]

I am the author of the article. A female can easily gain and keep 5 pounds of lean mass after a 8-12 week SARM cycle as I have outlined in the article.

After the cycle, a woman should run a bootle of a good natural testosterone booster as mini PCT. I recommend HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Cycle-Support-c26/HCGenerate-ES-p238.html

 

[blowingup72]

I am the author of the article. A female can easily gain and keep 5 pounds of lean mass after a 8-12 week SARM cycle as I have outlined in the article.

After the cycle, a woman should run a bootle of a good natural testosterone booster as mini PCT. I recommend HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Cycle-Support-c26/HCGenerate-ES-p238.html

That's fine but my.main concern is the amount of weight increase that happened so quickly at the start of the use. I also understand that appearantly water retention for women who take anavar seems to be a regularity compared to men. I just want to know what the "normal" range if that weight gain would be generally speaking.

 

[aggirl]

I would say, considering its legit var, that the average weight gain in the first few weeks would be between 2-5lbs. Naturally, there are exceptions to the rules. The problem with women and steriods is that each women reacts differently.

2 women could take the exact same var- 1 might be able to take 20mgs without side effects, the other 5mgs with oily skin and an enlarged clitoris.

I like the idea of starting with sarms....it's so much safer. I would definitely say 5lbs of lean mass is possible with sarms. I recommend- lgd, nutrabol and caradine or lgd, s4 & caradine.

 

[gaintrain87]

Can someone give me a sample cycle of var to pitch my girlfriend? I think i read 8 weeks at 5 days on 2 off, 10mgs a day?

 

[blowingup72]

I would say, considering its legit var, that the average weight gain in the first few weeks would be between 2-5lbs. Naturally, there are exceptions to the rules. The problem with women and steriods is that each women reacts differently.

2 women could take the exact same var- 1 might be able to take 20mgs without side effects, the other 5mgs with oily skin and an enlarged clitoris.

I like the idea of starting with sarms....it's so much safer. I would definitely say 5lbs of lean mass is possible with sarms. I recommend- lgd, nutrabol and caradine or lgd, s4 & caradine.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

 

[drippie]

Can someone give me a sample cycle of var to pitch my girlfriend? I think i read 8 weeks at 5 days on 2 off, 10mgs a day?

I wouldn't suggest days off and on, it messes with levels. I wouldn't suggest 8 weeks either, my wife starts to see sides after 4 weeks.

Sample cycle is:

10mg ED - split morning and evening / duration 4 weeks
winstrol or anavar would be good at this cycle/duration and have very similar results with little to no sides.

 

[LevButlerov]

I wouldn't suggest days off and on, it messes with levels. I wouldn't suggest 8 weeks either, my wife starts to see sides after 4 weeks.

Sample cycle is:

10mg ED - split morning and evening / duration 4 weeks
winstrol or anavar would be good at this cycle/duration and have very similar results with little to no sides.

I would avoid winstrol use, as it is highly androgenic, and there is a higher probability of getting virilization symptoms. What's more, it is not a good idea to use anavar either, since it can also cause issues for a lady. SARMS are a much safer alternative, since there will be no side effects at all with them, and yet they will lead to the same positive results as anavar will at a female-kind of dosage.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

SARMS would be my recommendation because they will not come with the side effects of Anavar. As mentioned, everyone reacts differently to these compounds and the last thing she would want is virilazation.

 

[Jay Scott]

SARMS would be my recommendation because they will not come with the side effects of Anavar. As mentioned, everyone reacts differently to these compounds and the last thing she would want is virilazation.

If you want to take the risk - go with the given solutions with var (5 on 2 off, 10mg), but I would not risk it with my girlfriend though, haha. Id rather she used SARMS

 

[gaintrain87]

I wouldn't suggest days off and on, it messes with levels. I wouldn't suggest 8 weeks either, my wife starts to see sides after 4 weeks.

Sample cycle is:

10mg ED - split morning and evening / duration 4 weeks
winstrol or anavar would be good at this cycle/duration and have very similar results with little to no sides.

So what happened to the side effects after your wife stopped?

The biggest thing in this whole decision is 350 for a legal compound which may or may not do anything vs 60 bucks for an anabolic hormone that will without a doubt produce results...

 

[aggirl]

So what happened to the side effects after your wife stopped?

The biggest thing in this whole decision is 350 for a legal compound which may or may not do anything vs 60 bucks for an anabolic hormone that will without a doubt produce results...

I can tell you right now....if your anavar is only costing $60.00......it's not legit, period! Best thing you can do is get a lab max kit and test to make sure it is in fact anavar. Winstrol and dbol are commonly sold as var.....bad news.

Sarms see definitely going to give her a strength increase and aid in losing body fat. Id like to see her use them prior to aas.

Anavar is great...I use it. I have a definite love/hate relationship with it.

I'm not really sure why 5 days on 2 days off is being recommended above. That's definitely not a good idea. Oral steroids are short acting....in and out. Taking 2 days off would really screw with hormone levels etc. If you are hell bent on anavar...this is what I would do.

Week 1-6

Anavar @5mgs ed (split morning and evening)*****up the dose to 10mgs ed after 2 weeks if she has ZERO sides
N2guard (don't skimp on this...liver aid with var is vital)
Evening primrose oil
B100

Pct

Hcgenerate es (run the bottle)

If money permits run throughout the cycle as well

Continue n2guard, primrose oil and b100

 

[gaintrain87]

Even on roidmass a bag of var is only $50? I thought they were supposed to be a credited source>

 

[drippie]

So what happened to the side effects after your wife stopped?

The biggest thing in this whole decision is 350 for a legal compound which may or may not do anything vs 60 bucks for an anabolic hormone that will without a doubt produce results...

After about day 25 or so she started to get acne and itchy clitoris. Based on feedback from a female bodybuilder we know (who does all compounds, even injects) this would be the early signs that the AAS is starting virilization. According to her it is best to stop soon after this feeling. If they are ignored, clitoral enlargement happens in the next 20-30 days and of course acne always starts slow and creeps up on us. This is why it is important to use a compound with a very quick half life. If she was on a test e or c and the symptoms start, it may be too late.

There is very low risk to females with a low dose and who monitor it close. Despite what other bros have said in this thread, our experience and heavily experienced female bodybuilder consider anavar and winstrol similar in very safe at low doses, short cycle but winstrol seems to get much better results with protein synthesis.

We pay $80 for anavar but prefer windy and its cheaper. $60 anavar is concerning I guess, but worst case it's winstrol on the sneak.

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If it's Dbol on the sneak, you're screwed lol

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We have no experience with these sarms, sorry.

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Oh yah. There were no sides after she stopped. All is good. The itchy clitoris could also be a yeast infection wich I hear is common on gear for woman, but either way it's best to stop regardless with that side.

 

[aggirl]

$50-$80 bucks is about right, im sorry. My head is in my ass.

My apologies....

 

[gaintrain87]

Hahaha no worries. Thanks for all the feedback guys and girls. Really appreciate it

 

[LeonardoOwen]

Hi Shellsfit, good morning.

First, excuse me for my English, I don't write well in English, I'm from Colombia and I speak Spanish.

The reason for this message is because in a message you wrote in the Thread: SARMS or Anavar for my girlfriend, you wrote about the experience with first cycle with var. In that message, you said that you never really experienced any virilization. My wife wants do a cycle also with var but here in Colombia is very difficult to get var in a secure lab, then I wonder if you might send me the name and a photo of the bottle or box of var that you used and a link on the Internet where can buy online. Thank you very much and stay tuned to your kind reply. Greetings.

Sincerely,

Leonardo O.