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So i have been thinking about running this stack and not exactly sure if i got things right. MY intentions obviously with the Deca and Dbol are for bulk. Im not too much into a hard cut of a cycle that's why i chose the Eq as for it's "preserving" qualities instead of sheer bulk or cut. Im a little effy bout running the Sust but i've read from peoples personal testimonials of massive gain difference while using this. Once again these are personal testimonials and everybody is different. The other reason i want to run the Sust is i heard i can jump into PCT quicker; which i think the quicker into PCT is a smart idea based on the different compounds i am using and the duration of Cyc. SO heres the out line, please any and all input will be appreciated, you guys are certainly more knowledgeable than myslef.

Sustanon weeks 1-14 @ 500mg/wk

DBol weeks 1-6 @ 30mg/day

Deca weeks 1-12 @ 400mg/wk

Eq weeks 7-14 @ 400mg/wk

aromasin `12.5 mg/eod duration of cyc

PCT starting on week 15
 
you cant take your pct that quickly since sus is still in your system 2 to 3 weeks after your last pin so your taking your pct while your still on a cycle that's why you have to wait an taper off
 
Pharmagene said:
Need to run the EQ much longer. 7 weeks it's barely kicking in.
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it would technically be 8 weeks, i kno i shouldnt run it less than that but with what im doing do you think it would beneficial with maybe 10? And does this overall theory sound like i'll get the results im looking for?
 
you waste a ton of money. just run eq at the same dosages every week. doesn't matter how you load it it still takes the same amount of time to kick in. run it at 600mg a week. or 900 if you can afford it
 
You will need to wait for 2, or even 3 weeks before jumping into the PCT after Sustanon. Remember, even though it starts acting relatively fast, it also has some quite long esters in it. Also, if you are taking Dbol, a liver support is a must, and I haven't seen one in your cycle. N2Guard would be the best bid for this purpose.
 
LevButlerov said:
You will need to wait for 2, or even 3 weeks before jumping into the PCT after Sustanon. Remember, even though it starts acting relatively fast, it also has some quite long esters in it. Also, if you are taking Dbol, a liver support is a must, and I haven't seen one in your cycle. N2Guard would be the best bid for this purpose.
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n2gaurd will be taken. Do you have personal experience with sust? I'm so in the air with it i just mite say f it and run some test e, for the majority i have fear of counterfit. The main reason y i don't want to run eq the whole duration is i don't want to run all those compund at the same time.
 
bmyers818 said:
So i have been thinking about running this stack and not exactly sure if i got things right. MY intentions obviously with the Deca and Dbol are for bulk. Im not too much into a hard cut of a cycle that's why i chose the Eq as for it's "preserving" qualities instead of sheer bulk or cut. Im a little effy bout running the Sust but i've read from peoples personal testimonials of massive gain difference while using this. Once again these are personal testimonials and everybody is different. The other reason i want to run the Sust is i heard i can jump into PCT quicker; which i think the quicker into PCT is a smart idea based on the different compounds i am using and the duration of Cyc. SO heres the out line, please any and all input will be appreciated, you guys are certainly more knowledgeable than myslef.

Sustanon weeks 1-14 @ 500mg/wk

DBol weeks 1-6 @ 30mg/day

Deca weeks 1-12 @ 400mg/wk

Eq weeks 7-14 @ 400mg/wk

aromasin `12.5 mg/eod duration of cyc

PCT starting on week 15
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Some suggestions:

1. Remove the deca from your cycle and run the EQ throughout the entire cycle. Testosterone + deca + dbol will cause A LOT of water retention

2. Add in a liver aid when using the dbol

3. start your PCT 2 weeks after your last injection. Remember that sustanon has two very long esters in the blend.

This is what I suggest:

weeks 1 - 14
testosterone 500mg/week
EQ 400mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg EOD

weeks 1 - 6
dbol 30mg/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol (start the pre-PCT on week 14 and the actual PCT on week 16): http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

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bmyers818 said:
n2gaurd will be taken. Do you have personal experience with sust? I'm so in the air with it i just mite say f it and run some test e, for the majority i have fear of counterfit. The main reason y i don't want to run eq the whole duration is i don't want to run all those compund at the same time.
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Testosterone is testosterone. The ester only change how frequently you need to inject. Testosterone sustanon, cypionate and enanthate are all pretty much interchangeable. Which ever you use - inject it twice per week.
 
i never know why people want to run eq and deca together. i find using one or the other works just fine. I personally don't like eq and dust together. find deca works better. so as musk ate suggested try dropping either the deca or eq from the cycle
 
Bad Juju said:
i never know why people want to run eq and deca together. i find using one or the other works just fine. I personally don't like eq and dust together. find deca works better. so as musk ate suggested try dropping either the deca or eq from the cycle
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yeh brother, the more i think about it it sounds like a waste, i just want something to preserve all the bulk im gonna get from the deca at the same time losing the water retention. I know masteron or winn is just to much of an extreme cut for me .
 
You know Deca stays in your system a long ass time right ? This is a sloppy wet cycle man...
 
the detection time/life time of deca is like 18months. I shouldn't laugh but i do find it funny how mike calls it a sloppy wet cycle. usually i like sloppy wet things but not in this case lol
 
there is deca in sustanon....... but everyone on this site thinks you have to blast EQ to make it viable i'd say to save that eq for a different setup instead of the one you got. in addition, make sure you got that liver support for a daily intake there are plenty of cheaper options out there.....
 
I have to disagree with everyone deca and EQ work great together. Your obviously looking to bulk, deca builds mass and EQ increases your appetite. It's a no brainer. Run it like this
1-16 test e 500mg
1-16 EQ 600-800mg
1-12 deca 400mg
1-4 dbol 40mg daily


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If anything dbol should go. I like eq and deca, it's a lot of oil though all together. One needs to go. Eq deca or dbol.

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I have a love/hate relationship with Deca. Though i loved what it did...I hated that it completely KILLED my sex drive for what felt like forever. I cringe at the memory. But EQ...EQ was easy peazy. I kept my gains (or most) once the water drained away.
Are you prone to sides? I am...I wont touch deca again now that Im married.
But thats me.
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3CCs said:
run deca and eq all the way through
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see now im thinking i'll be in business runnin the eq all the way through with deca, deca still at 12 weeks and the eq at 16 weeks. I got some wierd theory that the eq will pull a lot of the water effects from the deca, at the same time preserving my gains, is this a retarded theory? i know tren is good for a dry bulk but im on tren e rite now and right after my pct im not sure if my head will be g2g with another tren cycle.

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Also i would like more feedback on the sus, is it just a hype? i would like to know personally comparisons
 
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