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Andy2161

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Hi this is my first post and would just like some help on any changes that it may need iv done 2 cycles before test only and a test and deca cycle .


I'm looking to run
test cyp 1-10 weeks at 500 mg
Deca week 1-8 at 300
And maestron 1-10 at 300 mg

Should I run tamoxifen to reduce bloat from deca.

Will be running pct 2 weeks after last injection .
Hcg clomid and tamoxifen ..

Thanks
 
Sorry stats are
Age 25
5'10 heigh
190 pounds
About 13% bf
Training for about 5 years training serious the last 2 years
 
Run HCG during cycle, not PCT. Most on here will tell you to run HCGenerate. You can try that too. I run HCG at 500iu a week and it always keeps my nuts large.

Running HCG during PCT is counterproductive, you run HCG on cycle to prevent testicular dystrophy... you don't start HCG once your nuts are tiny, you prevent them from ever getting that small.
 
I have not run Deca nor maestron so I am not the person that can comment on that.

I prefer arimidex on cycle, .5mg EOD has worked great for me. I save nolva/clomid for pct.

Yes I have started HCG 3 weeks into cycle when I run Test e. Continue all the way up till 5 days before PCT. 250iu 2x week. Keep your HCG in the refrigerator out of direct light.
 
Running Masteron when you are on deca it is not good option deca is a bulker and Masteron usually its use for cutter . Even you only are gonna see results if your body its around 10% body fat or less than that


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You shouldn't run mast, save that for sub 10% bf.. Running deca for 8 wks is not a good idea, needs to be ran a min 12.. And you should be running an ai, to control estrogen and yes it will help with bloat as well.. Clean Diet will help with bloat also..
 
And even 300 mg a week its nothing


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I got 20 ml of test 10ml deca and 20 ml of test already .. I thought the maestron would help with the water retention .. I also have tamoxifen to start during week 3 of the cycle .. I could up the cycle the extra 2 weeks and get more maestron if that would be any use ..
 
Bro are you asking for advice or are you telling us your cycle ?


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Bro read mine and amazoc responses again.. Don't run mast. It is pointless.. You NEED to run an ai.. As in arimidex or aromasin.. Should be ran from the get go. Also if you're running DECA, you need a caber to control prolactin brotha.
 
You have to check out where its the Gyno help after your cycle


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Sorry just I bought the cycle so I should just drop the mastron ..I also have arimidex already but wasn't starting till wk 3 but I'll start it from when I start .. would you recommended anything to add instead of the maestron
 
Or up deca dose to 500 or 600 mg a week


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1st cycle was just 500 mg of test 2nd was test e 500 mg and deca was 350 with good results .. I just thought the maestron would help with water ..iv dropped the maestron until next cycle when bf is down a bit .
 
I Run masteron or proviron in every cycle. It will help with bloat/vascularity/libido and just makes you feel amazing. It's definately not pointless.
 
liv2pb said:
I Run masteron or proviron in every cycle. It will help with bloat/vascularity/libido and just makes you feel amazing. It's definately not pointless.
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Vascularity running deca ? 😏😏😏😏😏


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If your only using what you have then I guess it's just Test & Deca again..
I'd go longer than 10 weeks though..

Ever thought about using Eq?
Kicker?
 
Ye I was doing research on it it some people say it helps stop estrogen sides along with arimidex. But the others say it's pointless .
 
The other say its pointless ifvyoubhave more than 10% of body fat you have more than that . So


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I've decide to listen to the advice giving .. I'll stick with the test cyp at 500 and deca up to the 400 don't really want to up the deca over the test over deca dick and all
 
Even hight test in certain way you are gonna have it ,


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I've done test and deca already with good gains just a little water retention other than that no problems
 
Ok go for it and do not forget your AI


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Arimidex its .5 mg EOD


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Run anti aromatase like arimidex or aromasin during cycle to cope with gyno and bloat!!
I would save masteron for cutting will never run it along deca!!
if planning to run 19 NOR like deca or tren, keep anti prolactin (bromo/caber/prami) on hand!!
 
Ye I dropped the maestron going to hold off till I'm on a cutting cycle and just stick with the test and deca of only .. what is the caber
 
its an anti prolactin. Usually running deca or tren increases natural pro lactin levels.
you might still suffer gyno, lethargy, low sex drive if your pro lactin levels are elevated.
Caber will do the job while being on deca.
Would suggest taking it 3 or 4 weeks into the cycle when deca starts kicking.
0.5 mg every 3 days would be sufficient !!
 
Cabergoline is a dopamine receptor agonist!!
works by reducing the amount of prolactin during a deca or tren cycle (19 NOR generally) !!
used to treat too much prolactin in the blood !!
Some of the guys can suffer gyno, lethargy, loss of libido on deca/tren cycle !!
Run 3 or 4 weeks into your deca cycle @ 0.5 mg every 3rd day
 
Good idea brother.. I think you'll fare much better this way.. Dostinex (caber) is what I use when on nadralone.. 1/2 mg dosed twice/wk. You see the term "DECA dick" has nothing to do with test levels.. Its related to increase of prolactin which occurs when taking DECA.. Dostinex will help control it.. I noticed a big difference when I ran it.. Best of luck and keep us posted brother
 
Andy2161 said:
Hi this is my first post and would just like some help on any changes that it may need iv done 2 cycles before test only and a test and deca cycle .


I'm looking to run
test cyp 1-10 weeks at 500 mg
Deca week 1-8 at 300
And maestron 1-10 at 300 mg

Should I run tamoxifen to reduce bloat from deca.

Will be running pct 2 weeks after last injection .
Hcg clomid and tamoxifen ..

Thanks
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I'm surprised no one has said anything about the nolva!? Don't run tamoxifen with nandrolone
 
scoopdaloop said:
Run HCG during cycle, not PCT. Most on here will tell you to run HCGenerate. You can try that too. I run HCG at 500iu a week and it always keeps my nuts large.

Running HCG during PCT is counterproductive, you run HCG on cycle to prevent testicular dystrophy... you don't start HCG once your nuts are tiny, you prevent them from ever getting that small.
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I am one of those people recommending HCGenerate. I do get inclined towards HCGenerate because it is just as effective, but unlike HCG, which is made of pregnant female urine, HCGenerate is made only of natural ingredients. There have been a lot of research on HCG, and it is not the best choice. It used to be, when no alternatives were available, but not anymore. Read this - http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/

Amozoc said:
Running Masteron when you are on deca it is not good option deca is a bulker and Masteron usually its use for cutter . Even you only are gonna see results if your body its around 10% body fat or less than that

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I agree - if you do bulking, stick to the plan. Masteron is only good with extremely low BF%.

armygrunt01 said:
You shouldn't run mast, save that for sub 10% bf.. Running deca for 8 wks is not a good idea, needs to be ran a min 12.. And you should be running an ai, to control estrogen and yes it will help with bloat as well.. Clean Diet will help with bloat also..
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Yes, indeed 8 weeks is too little for deca to give the best out of itself. Run the cycle for like 12-14 week for best results.

armygrunt01 said:
Bro read mine and amazoc responses again.. Don't run mast. It is pointless.. You NEED to run an ai.. As in arimidex or aromasin.. Should be ran from the get go. Also if you're running DECA, you need a caber to control prolactin brotha.
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This is one important advice to follow. You really need to run an AI when on cycle, and should be ready to fight prolactin.

Andy2161 said:
I've decide to listen to the advice giving .. I'll stick with the test cyp at 500 and deca up to the 400 don't really want to up the deca over the test over deca dick and all
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That's the way to go!

Amozoc said:
Ok go for it and do not forget your AI

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Aromasin should be your AI of choice for deca.

Andy2161 said:
I have a full pct course with hcg tamoxifen and clomid which ill start 2wks after last pin
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Sincerely, I think your PCT is a bit weak. Try getting it closer to the "perfect PCT."
 
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Going to do the test and deca for the 12 weeks with aridmex there will start that from the start of cycle also will pick up so caber to help with prolacting.. so clomid tamoxifen and I've never heard of hcg genrate before
 
My two cents... mast/Deca don't fit my understanding of balance unless you are trying to use it in place of ancillary... too expensive for that to me. I like both of them... just not together. And I prefer longer run on Deca since it takes so long to build up... depending on your body chemistry deca takes about three weeks to hit full force so 12 weeks is my minimum.

Masteron is one of my favorite tools - it makes me hard... but it is a limited arsenal tool.

54 yoa (training since I was 14)
5'8" 190 11-12% bf
 
Was using the maestron to stop the water bloat and estrogen sides along with the aridmex but iv dropped it and decided on the 12 week course.. I'll hold onto the maestron till next cutting cycle
 
Andy2161 said:
Hi this is my first post and would just like some help on any changes that it may need iv done 2 cycles before test only and a test and deca cycle .


I'm looking to run
test cyp 1-10 weeks at 500 mg
Deca week 1-8 at 300
And maestron 1-10 at 300 mg

Should I run tamoxifen to reduce bloat from deca.

Will be running pct 2 weeks after last injection .
Hcg clomid and tamoxifen ..

Thanks
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you need to run deca longer then 8 weeks. it doesnt kick in fast
 
LevButlerov said:
I am one of those people recommending HCGenerate. I do get inclined towards HCGenerate because it is just as effective, but unlike HCG, which is made of pregnant female urine, HCGenerate is made only of natural ingredients. There have been a lot of research on HCG, and it is not the best choice. It used to be, when no alternatives were available, but not anymore. Read this - http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/


I'm sorry, I still see no empirical sources backing up any of that bro science. Not trying to be an ass, but posting a youtube video and saying things are toxic is not empirical evidence. I think we can agree to disagree. HCG is fantastic, its the real thing. Opposed to plants and extracts. My .02
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FACT: HCG that is used for too long or in high enough doses will inhibit your own testosterone production due to the negative feedback via the pituitary gland and hypothalamus. Meaning: If you use the wrong amount of HCG, you will actually get SHUT DOWN not recover! You read that correct, using HCG can actually inhibit your natural testosterone production.
FACT: HCG causes estrogen to go up, giving you female-like side effects. Do you want to look and feel like a woman?
FACT: HCG gives you gynecomastia (puffy nipps/gyno) that’s not easy to get rid of and causes you to look like a woman who needs a bra.
FACT: HCG makes you puffy and bloated. You’ll feel depressed during your HCG run and you’ll have a very soft look.

Is this your evidence? Because I haven't experienced ANY of those. The only one I've heard of happening is people having problems with estrogen but thats because they were dosing too high and too often. I'm sorry but an EVO article is not emprical evidence..... at all.
 
Remove HCG remove Mast. Add EQ.

Test cyp 1-15 @500
Eq 1-15 @500
Deca 1-10 @400

Pct needs work.

Nolva and clomid are fine as long as you let that deca run out of your system. Add Hcgenerate.

Also make sure you have caber or prami for a deca AI and exem for your other AI.
 
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