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That mix of 75% Safflower and 25% Grape Seed, was perfect.
I thought that the GSO was thicker than the Safflower, but it's not, at least not the GSO I got (from France Organic).
The Safflower is from Argentina and bottled here..............................................JP
P.S.
So the end Product is very thin, should have no PIP.
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
I thought u might like it bro! Let me know how it turn out!
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Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
I am glad to see the first batch of the Test Ace..what were your BA and BB, if any percentages?
If you have mixed Tren Ace before, was it similar?
When I started poking around about this ester I didnt see too many people who had actual experience with it. In theory I figured it would be the equivalent of Prop without the hassle of the Pip and difficulty of brewing.
Flip Digler
Advanced Cyborg Brother
Very nice , Jp , love to know how it feels ! That's some homebrew organic , I love it ! Yo mh4800 , next round I'm in 
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jerseydevil
Banned
AY... TPA.... test prop 50mg/test ace 50mg for 100mg total..... just saying.
It would seem that it would defeat the purpose of the Ace ester by keeping the negative benefits caused by the propanic acid in Prop...I guess I would have to give it a try.
Im still trying to get Yeezus to mix up a batch of TNE/Dbol, now thats a nice preworkout pin!
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Hahaha bro I just ordered 25,000000 filters. I dunno how a 500ml one dies on me in 30 seconds. I didn't have shit for VAC on its. Pissed.
Im told the dbol I made at 50mg/ml is near pipless. Hyped about that.
Had a guy pin my TNE tonight. Guess I will find out tomorrow how that goes since that usually had pip no matter what.
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Ace alone can be held at 100mg... Why the need for prop?
Yeah Bro, hook me up with some filters..Let us know how the TNE works!
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
U know if u need them I'll get them to you... !!!
I only made a small batch, because I couldn't find a Recipe, so I improvised.
I took a Prop Recipe, and made some adjustments.
2 grams Powder
1 ml BA - 5%
3 ml BB - 15%
13.50 ml. or 75% Safflower Oil to 25% Grape Seed Oil
Yield is 20 ml. - 100 mg/ml
I mixed the BB, BA, and Powder first - brought it up to Temp.
Then I added the Oil and brought the whole thing up to Temp. in a Water Bath.
Let Cool to 140 degree's and filter.
Easier than I thought.
I just did a Taste - 100 mg - smoother than Prop......................................JP
P.S.
This was a 1st for me, although I would like to try the Tren Ace.
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jerseydevil
Banned
AY originally only stocked test prop. This 50/50 blend has replaced test prop to virtually eliminate the pip some people experience with straight prop.
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
I prefer the best of both worlds and I prefer TPA....it is a beautiful thing.
Some people react very poorly to the prop ester, regardless of who is brewing it. TPA took care of that issue for those people, they can now enjoy the shorter esters without the discomfort.
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Some people react very poorly to the prop ester, regardless of who is brewing it. TPA took care of that issue for those people, they can now enjoy the shorter esters without the discomfort.
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Nice job! My Test Ace is coming on Monday with some friends, I havent brewed in a while so I am excited...Now who is going to push the envelope and brew some 200mg/ml Test Ace to see how it goes?????
If no one else does I will have it done by Tuesday or Wednesday and will post!
I honestly don't know, but, I had quite a few people on another Board, tell me that the Acetate won't hold at 200 mg/ml.
So make sure that you write down your Recipe, if it holds, please let me know, cause that would be some Awesome Shit..........................JP
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Oh by the way KJ, that was a challenge!!!! LOL I know you liked messing with that 200mg Prop
Ha! Well it crashes horribly fast at 100mg prop and 100mg ace. Sooooo u will have to be the first make it happen.
Fyi: Mine basically came out of the filter looking like it was dashes with fairy dust 2 minutes later. Prop at 200mg with little bb didn't crash that fast. Lol
Yeah it sounds like it might be difficult, but I would like to see personally. Hell I wont lose but 2 grams trying and at least I will know one way or another what happens.
You can get a lot of hormones to hold outside of the normal ranges with high BB or an EO mix but I lie straight carrier oils and relatively low ratios of BA and BB.
I will post my results at 150mg/ml and 200mg
Interesting mix, so you tried a Prop/Ace mix? See this is why people should actually try shit, you would think that since Prop easily holds at 100 at Ace too that the mix would be fine. Maybe its just too much hormone???
Ive done Prop at 150 and 200 so the fairy dust description brings back memories, lol.
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Yep. I probably could of made it hold if I used more bb then anything else. But that's fucked lol.
That sounds good Bro, just remember to write it down, so we can repeat it...............................................JPYou guys want me to show you how to make it hold at 200mg/ml the test is on
Z28blak
Banned
Bro I'll send it to you for you to try
You guys want me to show you how to make it hold at 200mg/ml the test is on
I know you can do it...valid only if you post the formula, lol. I figure it should be easier in theory than Prop because of the Ace ester...but you never know till you try.
I was also looking to do it with sesame oil, not EO.
Z28blak
Banned
No bro never use eo I think that shit is so horrible
Cool post up your results when you have a chance. Mine will arrive on Monday, so I hope to mix it up on Tuesday or Wednesday.
LOL. With my 4 kids, house guests and business...I will be lucky to get to do it, let alone race, hahhaha.
I didn't mean a Race as far as who can get it done Quicker.
I meant who can get a Stable 200 mg/ml
I Probably should have worded it a little differently, because, like I said before, I've got a Bunch of Guys who say it won't hold at that Strength...............JP
I am curious too. The problem with opinions is that most of the time people are reposting info. How many of the guys who offered opinions have even pinned acetate, let alone brewed it.
I commented on your post on Meso...I think its awesome you brewed this and can actually give an opinion based on fact.
I am debating doing another giveaway with Testosterone Decanoate. For people who are fans of long esters, there you go.
Its fun playing with new stuff and especially when people start to claim that it might not really be Test Ace, but Prop disguised.
My goal on the mix is to get it hold using a relatively mellow amount of BA and BB. Im not a fan of more solvent then necessary and actually will be brewing my 1st batch at 100mg/ml with 3% BA like you would TrenAce.
We will see,thanks JP
AnalogMan
Banned
Yea,I seen it too... The "Fish" story......AnalogMan
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Cost to much and hate it
Finally some people with common sense, lol. Its become the new in thing and is not that great.
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
I read they don't even know the long term effects of using eo
Flip Digler
Advanced Cyborg Brother
That's one thing good bout Gymlabs is EO free ! Even though I don't know much about eo , it just sounds better
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Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
That's one thing good bout Gymlabs is EO free ! Even though I don't know much about eo , it just sounds better
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All my mixes are EO free. Still come out clear and smooth as ever.
Flip Digler
Advanced Cyborg Brother
"Well , looks like I'm going to have to give it a try partner " ( john Wayne voice )
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brapbrap07
Buff Brother
It will be a race straight to my glute...
I'm going to be upping the amount that I've been doing to 150 mg.
The 1st was at 50 mg, the 2nd was at 100 mg.
I did it this way because, a couple of guys told me that I had too much BA in the mix, and it was going to Burn.
It is a little higher than I had intended, forgot to lower it, original Recipe was 5 grams, not 2 grams.
So the BA amount was for a 5 gram Batch.
It should have been a little less that 1/2 ml, and not 1 ml.
Luckily it doesn't Burn, and there's no PIP......................................JP
The 1st was at 50 mg, the 2nd was at 100 mg.
I did it this way because, a couple of guys told me that I had too much BA in the mix, and it was going to Burn.
It is a little higher than I had intended, forgot to lower it, original Recipe was 5 grams, not 2 grams.
So the BA amount was for a 5 gram Batch.
It should have been a little less that 1/2 ml, and not 1 ml.
Luckily it doesn't Burn, and there's no PIP......................................JP
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
As long as it doesn't hurt the safer it will be long term gear wise
I hear you Bro, I've been doing a little more Research into BA, and It's an Irritant in higher concentrations.
So you need to Weigh the Benefits vs Possible Problems, associated with the use of BA.
I've seen a Recipe for Home Brew Only without BA, because of it's Propensity to Irritate Skin Tissue......................................JP
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Your heating it up in this Recipe, and then doing the Transfer to a Sterile Vial, when it's still at 140 degree's, and then Heating the
Vials (with a Vent needle), in a Water Bath to 212 degree's again............................ JP
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Home brew only = using right away or sterilizing with heat every use.
Seems like a waste when I can make pretty much anything pipless still with the right amount of ba to keep it legit and safe
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Oh ok, see u taught me something...ya sounds like lot of trouble
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That one sounds a little out there...you would have nothing to inhibit bacteria growth, and therefore be accepting that there might possibly be bacterial growth. Then your defense against that would be to heat it to kill the bacteria, and not filter it? Also it does not take into consideration the degradation of the hormone from constant heating.
A small amount of BA, especially an amount FDA approved seems like a whole lot better than the risk of a bacterial infection...just my opinion.
As for the irritant part....anyone want to take me up on the offer of injecting a 1/2ml BA into the glute? This is why I always say people need to try things before they say if something does or does not do something.
If my schedule lightens up and no one else wants to, I will post some pics pinning the 1/2ml BA...
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
WTH? That's sucks, can be replaced but man that would have made a whole lot of test
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You know where I saw this Recipe, Bill Roberts at Meso, you have to look at the top of the Page to find it.
The Black Border at the top of page, under Steroid Articles, go to the 2nd page, it's at the top of the 2nd page
The Guide to making your own Injectable Anabolic Steroids.............................................JP
P.S.
It's above the Meso-rx Banner.
Flip Digler
Advanced Cyborg Brother
I read this before and there is no heating involved , sure looks easy .
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The premise for that Recipe is that everything is like Hospital Sterile, even the Oil..............................JP
P.S.
He does that just for personal use, and doesn't let it sit around.
The premise being, Bacteria doesn't grow well in Oil, so if it's Sterile, you can get away with it.
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It is definitely interesting and honestly until I have tried it, I guess I cant really critique it too much, but for my preference I will take a small amount of BA. Nice post though, its nice to see some different thinking!
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Funny thought......just pin the syringe filter & shoot straight out of the brew, good & warm mmmmm
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I think that the take away is that Bill Roberts has Mad Experience Brewing.
He only makes these for himself, and uses it quickly........................................JP
P.S.
I'll keep adding some BA also.
I also read all his Stuff and also PS LABS FOUNDER, another crazy intelligent dude, there's quite a few over there...........................JP
I thought that you needed some BB for a Solvent.
Just like you need some BA for a Bacteriostatic agent.......................................JP
P.S.
Have you ever tried it before.
BA can act as your solvent also, there are ton of hormones that suspend fine with zero BB. Trenbolone Acetate is one of them...thats why I thought the Test Acetate would do the same.
I use my Test Enanthate at 300mg/ml 3% BA, zero BB, Deca Durabolin 300mg/ml 3% BA, zero BB,
Give your Test Ace a try with zero BB...
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
I'm thinkin bout it bro, just wautin on supplies in mail, if it holds in vial ok what's the possibility of it crashing after injection?
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I think it should hold, but if you are real worried after filtering wait a couple days. I have some overdosed Prop which has quite a bit if crystals in it and I heat it, resuspend it, draw and pin.
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
I haven't tried the ace alone, but In the TPA at 200 (100/ 100) it didn't hold for nothing. Fastest I have ever seen a crash. That was using enough bb to hold the prop too.
Maybe I will mess around with some this weekend.
I normally filter the oil straight from the heating/ blending process, but what I'm wondering is how much of a difference would it make in it crashing being filtered or not filtered?
I think the fact that you combined the two contributed to the crashing. Ace or Prop should hold at the concentration you used, but putting them together changed that.
Dirty is going to try the formula I put up and if you try it that would be really cool also.
Please let me know!
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
I figured hormone over load caused the crash. But even prop at 200mg using min bb did crash that fast lol.
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Bro if u want done ace you know I'll send you some! Get at me
Bro, I know you got my back!
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
U meant some not done. Lol if you want 10 grams of ace powder I can ship it your way ASAP.
Oh yeah sorry....See you got my back! I just really wanted to see if the Ace would hold with no BB. Dirty says he is gonna mix it up this weekend and see.
I need to place an order for some powder soon. I want to get some Test Ace, Test E, Test base, Var(for the wife), and some Viagra...for the wife....hahahaha
Dude Im getting sick of paying so much for Viagra, I can 10 grams of raw for $15 bucks and make a couple hundred pills.
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
dirtydeed
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Injectable Viagra bro. I'll get 10 grams from you!!! Lol
Cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No the Viagra was going suspended in some Vodka!!! You want some injectable erections???? What about a shot of my Vodka/Viagra mix and pinning some of that Test Base you mixed 45 minutes before the action.......
bobsyouruncle
Buff Brother
Goes right in the taint....just a little pinch is all you will feel lol
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bobsyouruncle
Buff Brother
Yeezus
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Bro I injected the TNE and later on I the night I said to pull the car over and have my girl "take care" of me.
Lol
Damn Bob, I like the way you think!!!!
I just finished a 50 ML. Batch.
The strength is 150 mg/ml.
Boy what a Pain in my Ass, talk about Crashing with Flames Shooting out my Ass.
I tried a Low BB at 1st, just 12 1/2%, and BA at 2%.
It wouldn't hold, Whatman Filter clogged. All the Hormone Crystallized at the Bottom.
I Increased it to 15% BB, it Flamed my Ass again, Crystallized and Clogged a 2nd Whatman Filter.
I took it up to 17% BB, Crystallized again, and Clogged another Whatman Filter, that's 3 Filters.
I took it up to 18% BB, and now it seems to be Holding in Solution...................................JP
P.S.
If this doesn't look right when it Cools, I'll take it up to 19% BB, I know it will hold at that Percentage.
P.S.S.
So much for making Testosterone Acetate with either Low or No BB, you would have to put so much BA in it, the PIP would be Crazy.
P.S.S.S.
I forgot, I did this Batch in 100% Grape Seed Oil, the Organic I have, is really thin.
The strength is 150 mg/ml.
Boy what a Pain in my Ass, talk about Crashing with Flames Shooting out my Ass.
I tried a Low BB at 1st, just 12 1/2%, and BA at 2%.
It wouldn't hold, Whatman Filter clogged. All the Hormone Crystallized at the Bottom.
I Increased it to 15% BB, it Flamed my Ass again, Crystallized and Clogged a 2nd Whatman Filter.
I took it up to 17% BB, Crystallized again, and Clogged another Whatman Filter, that's 3 Filters.
I took it up to 18% BB, and now it seems to be Holding in Solution...................................JP
P.S.
If this doesn't look right when it Cools, I'll take it up to 19% BB, I know it will hold at that Percentage.
P.S.S.
So much for making Testosterone Acetate with either Low or No BB, you would have to put so much BA in it, the PIP would be Crazy.
P.S.S.S.
I forgot, I did this Batch in 100% Grape Seed Oil, the Organic I have, is really thin.
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An Update, Oil has Cooled and is Holding at 18% BB and 2% BA.
For a minute, it wasn't looking good at all, I was concerned.
I will try this Tomorrow AM and give an Update then.
I like the look of this 100% GSO, nice and thin like some of the Better Stock I've had....................................JP
For a minute, it wasn't looking good at all, I was concerned.
I will try this Tomorrow AM and give an Update then.
I like the look of this 100% GSO, nice and thin like some of the Better Stock I've had....................................JP
I use to use GSO and it was smooth, let us know how it goes.
I most certainly will tomorrow morning, that's my Regular Pin Schedule...........................JP
JP, this is where I have to admit my theory was wrong. I never got my Ace so I could try it, bit you and Dirty both tried
and it would seem Test Ace acts nothing like Tren Ace, if anything it seems more like Cyp
bobsyouruncle
Buff Brother
Thanks for updating us on this I haven't gotten around to brewing this I'm off cycle for a couple more months so when I get around to brewing this I'm glad I have a rough idea of how this hormone behaves
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