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Hard to say exactly. I had been taking time off of the gym for about a year because of a ruptured disc in my neck aND loss of power in my left arm. Got back in the gym and back on track at the same time. Gains were as expected. Once I felt comfortable and no more dead arm I put the pedal to the metal and got gains to back old levels. Then upped my dose and hit var, dbol, and proviso. Now with huge size increase and almost about to hit my maxes from 10 years ago.
TreyG
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Hell yea man keep pushin. I like to hear shit like this. So i sust. Would work fine for trt. But i got 100ml of test e so might as well use it up. Haha
kckcjl94
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i'm on trt. doc prescribed 200mg test cyp once a week and 1mg anastrozole 2x a week. that was too much ai and my estrogen crashed, so had to cut back on it a bit. since it was cheaper to buy my own i got some from hammer and my test level was 1400ish so i'm going to back off a bit on it. hopefully get the estrogen back to a sweet spot and start feelin better
Baldur2630
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I was diagnosed (after fighting with several doctors) last October. Sent to a moronic endo who refused to treat me because I was too old (73) and my total testosterone was 484 (Free Testosterone was close to NIL).
I treat myself. Started on 100 mg/week of Test Cyp. Didn't help, still zero libido and ED. Pushed dose up to 200 mg/week. I started to feel better, was losing fat, weights at the gym started to go up. Libido was only a tiny bit better, erection would last for about 2 mins and then gone. Advice from forums started me on Arimidex - experimented with doses, 0.25 mgEOD works best but not 100% reliable.
Found a source of CP Somatropin which has been tested on this forum. Started on 2 IU daily for a month and thereafter 1 IU daily. After 3 weeks, all I could think about was sex. My wife started taking HGH as well so that she could keep up!.
Now, I'm still on the same amount of Testosterone, but I changed to PSL Test 400 and pin 0.175 ml 3 x Weekly. Still on same Arimidex. I looked at Aromasin from PSL, but their write up indicates that I would have to take 10 mg (half a tablet) twice daily. This would have made it too expensive, but now, I hear from someone on this forum that half a tablet every 3 days is OK. So, next month I'm going to switch over to the Aromasin. I also switched to PSL Gray Top and it seems to be no different to the CP. it has also been tested on this forum.
To prevent testicle shrinkage, I take 500 IU twice weekly, but it's been suggested that I drop this to 250 IU twice weekly. I'm going to try this.
I did bloodwork before I started (obviously) and then 3 months later. It looked much better. My SHBG was slightly high still and my estradiol was a bit low. I'm going for more bloodwork on 30th (Thursday).
I feel great, I'm as randy now as I was in my twenties. My bench press has gone up from 35 kgs before I started TRT to 127.5 kgs yesterday. My hair is a lot thicker. It's still brown (but it was before I started). I had a torn meniscus in my knee, shoulder impingement in my shoulder and this has all cleared up. I plan to stay on HGH until I die and the prise the bottle out of my cold dead fingers. At less than 2.00 Euros per day, it's less than most people spend on junk, like booze, smokes and sweets.
It's important to get bloodwork done regularly. Change only one thing at a time and LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. If you rely on the medical profession to help you, may God have mercy on you. I have ZERO sympathy.
Baldur2630
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Should read 500 IU HCG twice weekly, sorry. On an iPad and can't edit post once it's saved - Sorry!
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I would rather use HCGenerate ES and proviron instead of HCG. HCG can in fact be suppressive and cause gyno. Besides it is more pleasant to put into your body natural ingredients from HCGenerate, not an urine extract HCG.
Baldur2630
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Sure, it would be nice to be able to look at things like HCGenerate. IF YOU LIVE IN THE USA. Don't push USA products to folks in Europe, because you can almost guarantee that if anyone in Europe is stupid enough to fall for this and try to import it, it will be confiscated by Customs!
NY REBEL
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Sir, we're just trying to help. A Majority of our members are able to order and enjoy the products. We support the N2BM product line.. There's many countries represented here. We're not pushing anyone from any certain country, we're just offering our advise.
Baldur2630
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I have No problem with you trying to help people, and, sure I realize that many countries here are represented. There is, however a big problem, especially with newcomers to steroids or TRT etc.,
When I first started, certain things were recommended and being completely 'green' I was ready to give an order for some gear to a USA company. Fortunately for me, a couple of weeks before, I had placed an order for some rehydration salts from a company in the USA. I did ask them, BEFORE I placed the order if there was any problem sending this to Europe. Their answer was "none at all".
Soon after I got a letter from Customs, saying that my shipment of illegal medicines from the USA had been seized and confiscated and that this time I would be let off with a warning, but if I did it again, I would be prosecuted, luckily for me, the letter from Customs, came on the morning that I was about to place an order for several hundred Dollars of gear from the USA. Needless to say, I didn't place the order, but I still lost over 50 USD for the Rehydration Salts that some los-Life fucking Customs asshole is enjoying.
It might be a very good idea if you preface your helpful advice for products that are only available in the USA, with something like "If you live in the USA I suggest that you use HCGenerate ES" or "I suggest that you use HCGenerate ES if you can safely import from the USA".
It might save someone who is new to all this, a lot of money.
How bout you just disregard what we say if it doesn't pertain to you. Seems pretty simple. I'm sorry this forum is not tailored to your specific needs....
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twistedtanker
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Im on TRT my test was 157 and at 200mg test cyp a week my test went up to 1150, so I would say do bloods first then do 1 mil or 200mg a week and in a month do bloods again, 200 cyp a week should be plenty. But now I'm on cycle so im sure it's through the roof. Matter of fact think I need to do bloods again.
Just to be safe. I am gyno prone if I dont. It's kinda like driving with a seat belt. You don't really have to if you feel that's ok but it's the safe thing to do.
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Keeps the water down but I more so do it for the estrogen control.
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TreyG
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Thats what i was wondering. Now would say test e or c be better than sust? Or will they all work just fine?
Biggerbetterfaster
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Dr prescribed 240mg test cyp split on wed/sun. 0.25 mg adex on days of shot. No hcg ( I don't need anymore kids and my balls haven't really shrunk enough to be noticably smaller). The ai keeps my e2 in the 20s. Without it, my e2 stays in the 60s, blood pressure stays high and libido stays down. I shoot with a 29 g insulin pin. It took over a year to get the protocol fine tuned but it's well worth it. Btw, my doc treats based on free t #s, not total t.
I am on Dr prescribed TRT
200mg Test C per week
0.5mg arimidex E3D
No need to use HCG if you are on TRT as your LH is going to be suppressed because you are injecting an artificial source of testerone. Not only that, HCG is actually a form of estrogen and what causes the gyno a lot of people experience on cycle. http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/
HCGenerate ES is what you want but I guess you aren't able to order it where you are living? That's the first I have heard customs stopping HCGenerate ES from being delivered to be honest.
200mg Test C per week
0.5mg arimidex E3D
No need to use HCG if you are on TRT as your LH is going to be suppressed because you are injecting an artificial source of testerone. Not only that, HCG is actually a form of estrogen and what causes the gyno a lot of people experience on cycle. http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/
HCGenerate ES is what you want but I guess you aren't able to order it where you are living? That's the first I have heard customs stopping HCGenerate ES from being delivered to be honest.
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