When should I get bloods for endo appt.?

[CuriousGeorge76]

Have an endo appt. coming up early next month. Can get my labs drawn for it any day up to a 10 days before it.

Last pin of Test E was 4 weeks ago. Been pinning 50mg prop EOD. I need to come up WAY low on bloods for this appt. Possible?

Pretty sure the test E will be cleared by 6 weeks, right? How long for the prop to clear out pretty much completely.

I'm getting my own labs done ahead of the ones for the endo, but, don't want to waste $$ for the draw if I don't think I'll be low.

Of course I don't want my Test very low for any longer than I have to for this test. Want to get back to normal levels asap. I'm sure you've figured out I'm wanting to get put on doc prescribed trt. My natty test is legitimately low. I'm 39. I have to deal with the VA for now. I've heard they don't prescribe test unless you're well below minimum normal range, and even then it's ridiculously low dosage. I can always supplement, but, at least I will have a doc looking after my health with regular tests, ect.

Advice appreciated.

 

[muskate]

The detection time of testosterone propionate is up to 2 weeks since your last injection. I would forgo all test prop injections AT LEAST one week before you do the blood test.

The detection time of testosterone enanthate is up to 3 months. After 6 weeks the majority of the compound will have cleared out of your system but some will still be floating around.

 

[CuriousGeorge76]

Thank you. I'm not concerned with detection time, since I know they are not checking for synthetic test use.
They don't even check free test or shbg on preliminary bloods. Only concerned with total. They do suck.
Basically how quickly do you suppose my total test levels can crash to very low after discontinuing the test prop trt dose?

 

[muskate]

Detection time is the same thing. It's a fancy way of saying how long the compound will be in your system in detectable amounts (enough to effect blood work).

I would wait at least a week from stopping the prop to get the blood work done. Ideally 10-14 days.

 

[LevButlerov]

Two weeks sound like a good enough time to wait before doing the test. If you had the chance to wait a bit more, would be even better.

 

[CuriousGeorge76]

Been solid 4 weeks off test e. 4 days since last prop. Will wait another week and get my own bloods done first.

Any tips on avoiding feeling like shit? Had an idea. I F**ked around with LGD for a bit. I don't care what anybody says, that stuff will shut you down hard at 15mg per day.
Had labs done at 6 weeks at that dosage and my test showed up at 56. Thing is I felt great. Would never have guessed i was suppressed so badly.

I still have a bottle of that sh*t left. Maybe I should just take a little of that for a couple weeks. It doesn't show up as testosterone.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

2 weeks to be safe.

 

[CuriousGeorge76]

Any thoughts on using the SARM LGD for the time I'm off test?

 

[gearhead]

Any thoughts on using the SARM LGD for the time I'm off test?

bro if you use anabolicum lgd from sarms1...you good....sarm lgd is sold by fake companies like SS that send fake shit...

 

[CuriousGeorge76]

bro if you use anabolicum lgd from sarms1...you good....sarm lgd is sold by fake companies like SS that send fake shit...

Totally, all other companies except Sarms1 sell fake/bunk products. Only ag guys sells real ancillaries. All others are suger pills. If you don't use n2bm product you will surely die of liver failure or worse.

I mean this.



Really, reeeaaally mean this.

 

[OceanusLabs]

Test E can screw with your levels for months, I would definitely get a prelim test prior to.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Totally, all other companies except Sarms1 sell fake/bunk products. Only ag guys sells real ancillaries. All others are suger pills. If you don't use n2bm product you will surely die of liver failure or worse.

I mean this.



Really, reeeaaally mean this.

No need for this buddy. I think his point was that if you don't get your SARMS from a reputable company, they may be fake. I wouldn't want to go to an endo appointment after running some PH that I thought was LGD and my bloods are all fucked.

 

[muskate]

Test E can screw with your levels for months, I would definitely get a prelim test prior to.

That's a really good idea. Get private blood work done to see where your levels are at before the test with the endo.

 

[CuriousGeorge76]

So, in case anyone is gives a sh*t, got total test bloods done on the morning of the 12th. About 4.5 weeks after last pin of test E at 500mg per week. 8 or 9 days after last pin of test prop 50mg eod which I ran after last test E pin. Came back at 268 ng/dl. Perfect for my endo draw which was done on the 15th so probably will be a bit lower still. We shall see.

Was feeling nicht so gut for the last week. Kind of sluggish. Not as sharp at work. Maybe was in my head, but, i don't think so. First thing I did after i got home from endo blood draw was pin 100mg prop. Felt significantly better 24 hours later. Noticed my sleep was crappy coming off the test too. All good learning experience as far as I'm concerned.

I'm interested in what the endo will say. I know the bloods were for Test - free, total. Estro, prolactin, LH, FSH, thyroid and several others. Seemed quite comprehensive.

These VA doctors can be some seriously stubborn, old fashioned, and uninformed "professionals". They deal much more with elderly men, and from what I've been told, are on the most part extremely reluctant to prescribe HRT.

Anyone have experience with going to a doc with tests that show androgen deficiency, yet, you have above average muscle mass. Do they automatically think "Oh, steroid user f'ed himself up, or, steroid user wants free legal test"?

 

[LevButlerov]

Totally, all other companies except Sarms1 sell fake/bunk products. Only ag guys sells real ancillaries. All others are suger pills. If you don't use n2bm product you will surely die of liver failure or worse.

I mean this.

Really, reeeaaally mean this.

You would be amazed with the amount of clients that come to me for help after using fake SARMS - there are a lot of fake SARMS, and you can really get into trouble when using the wrong thing. If sarms1 sells good stuff, why should @gearhead recommend you the good company?

So, in case anyone is gives a sh*t, got total test bloods done on the morning of the 12th. About 4.5 weeks after last pin of test E at 500mg per week. 8 or 9 days after last pin of test prop 50mg eod which I ran after last test E pin. Came back at 268 ng/dl. Perfect for my endo draw which was done on the 15th so probably will be a bit lower still. We shall see.

Was feeling nicht so gut for the last week. Kind of sluggish. Not as sharp at work. Maybe was in my head, but, i don't think so. First thing I did after i got home from endo blood draw was pin 100mg prop. Felt significantly better 24 hours later. Noticed my sleep was crappy coming off the test too. All good learning experience as far as I'm concerned.

I'm interested in what the endo will say. I know the bloods were for Test - free, total. Estro, prolactin, LH, FSH, thyroid and several others. Seemed quite comprehensive.

These VA doctors can be some seriously stubborn, old fashioned, and uninformed "professionals". They deal much more with elderly men, and from what I've been told, are on the most part extremely reluctant to prescribe HRT.

Anyone have experience with going to a doc with tests that show androgen deficiency, yet, you have above average muscle mass. Do they automatically think "Oh, steroid user f'ed himself up, or, steroid user wants free legal test"?

Even if he though that you fucked up with steroid use, he must help you. You are in trouble, and his duty is to help you out. It's like you coming with a broken arm, and the doc would think - that guy did not run properly, so he fucked up by falling badly. It does not matter whose fault it is - he must help you out.

 

[muskate]

So, in case anyone is gives a sh*t, got total test bloods done on the morning of the 12th. About 4.5 weeks after last pin of test E at 500mg per week. 8 or 9 days after last pin of test prop 50mg eod which I ran after last test E pin. Came back at 268 ng/dl. Perfect for my endo draw which was done on the 15th so probably will be a bit lower still. We shall see.

Was feeling nicht so gut for the last week. Kind of sluggish. Not as sharp at work. Maybe was in my head, but, i don't think so. First thing I did after i got home from endo blood draw was pin 100mg prop. Felt significantly better 24 hours later. Noticed my sleep was crappy coming off the test too. All good learning experience as far as I'm concerned.

I'm interested in what the endo will say. I know the bloods were for Test - free, total. Estro, prolactin, LH, FSH, thyroid and several others. Seemed quite comprehensive.

These VA doctors can be some seriously stubborn, old fashioned, and uninformed "professionals". They deal much more with elderly men, and from what I've been told, are on the most part extremely reluctant to prescribe HRT.

Anyone have experience with going to a doc with tests that show androgen deficiency, yet, you have above average muscle mass. Do they automatically think "Oh, steroid user f'ed himself up, or, steroid user wants free legal test"?

Most are very anti trt and very reluctant to prescribe. Even if you are on the extremely low end of the normal range, most doctors won't prescribe you trt. Even though a healthy middle aged male should be in the normal-high end of the range.

Shop around. They are hard to find but there are good doctors out there. Ask your friends at your gym who their family doctor is and if they recommend them

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

If the doc isn't willing to work with you on trt, start looking for another doctor. It is a pain to do but once you find one you are set. There are also plenty of men's anti aging clinics around but they will be costly.

 

[CuriousGeorge76]

Got my results from the VA blood draw. Estrogen, thyroid, everything normal except LH almost nothing, FSH very low too, and test 212 ml/dl. Amazingly their range for what they consider normal is 241-827. That's the lowest normal range I've seen anywhere.

Watch them tell me I'm close enough to normal and should be ok. I'm be like Ok, I guess low for an 81 year old man is ok with me. We'll see. Sometimes they do surprise me though. I will give credit that in some matters they go all out without even asking.

I know one thing for sure. VA hands out viagra like f*ckin candy, so if I want I will definitely have plenty of that. haha. Gotta make sure the old vets can still salute for the missus.

 

[gearhead]

Got my results from the VA blood draw. Estrogen, thyroid, everything normal except LH almost nothing, FSH very low too, and test 212 ml/dl. Amazingly their range for what they consider normal is 241-827. That's the lowest normal range I've seen anywhere.

Watch them tell me I'm close enough to normal and should be ok. I'm be like Ok, I guess low for an 81 year old man is ok with me. We'll see. Sometimes they do surprise me though. I will give credit that in some matters they go all out without even asking.

I know one thing for sure. VA hands out viagra like f*ckin candy, so if I want I will definitely have plenty of that. haha. Gotta make sure the old vets can still salute for the missus.

bro you're below normal...you probably could get some test from an endocrinologist...