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Just got my blood work back today. Been using 500mg Test E each week here are mid cycle test results for the past 5 weeks. Been having problems posting pictures idk why but if its hard to see the number its 2786. I highly recommend them to anyone it was a pleasure dealing with them, and I will be a customer for life. Thanks again PSL!!
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Great numbers, bro. I've been checking on this lab for quite some time and have been more than eager to try them out. Pay day really couldn't come any sooner! :)
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
Great numbers, bro. I've been checking on this lab for quite some time and have been more than eager to try them out. Pay day really couldn't come any sooner! :)
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Thanks bro, heck yea don't hesitate to order from them great experience plus their a one stop shop plus they have domestic now which im really eager to check out for next cycle.
 
bwise86 said:
Thanks bro, heck yea don't hesitate to order from them great experience plus their a one stop shop plus they have domestic now which im really eager to check out for next cycle.
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Yeah, only bad thing with that is that their domestic line is so much more expensive than their international line. I don't mind the wait for saving the price right now, cause I have more than enough gear at the moment. Lol.
 
If you go by the formula used on Meso they would say that the purity is only half of what it is supposed to be. 2748/500 is 5.5. They would run a source off for those numbers. How do members of this board decide what good blood work is. Im not saying they are right but there is such a large difference between the 2 boards on what is good testosterone levels.
 
bjstrong said:
If you go by the formula used on Meso they would say that the purity is only half of what it is supposed to be. 2748/500 is 5.5. They would run a source off for those numbers. How do members of this board decide what good blood work is. Im not saying they are right but there is such a large difference between the 2 boards on what is good testosterone levels.
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This is bar far the best board I've ever been on and most guys here will say good total test numbers are 5 times the dosage. So if you're taking 250mg of test pw then your numbers should come in at 1,250 total test. 500mg 2,500 total test. That's just what I go by. Everybody has their own opinion. There are a bunch of moderators and vet members on here that swear by this lab though, and after seeing the numbers this guy logged in his bloods, I definitely wouldn't hesitate to pin the test from PSL. I understand you're new to this board, but we do things a little differently around here than other boards. These guys have a golden standing around here.
 
Yeah with prop you get almost 20mg of test more per 100mL of solution than you do with test e. So that makes sense, but I can assure you this is a good lab bro. You don't have to take my word for it if you don't want, but it's good stuff. And like I said, plenty of vets and moderators swear by it so if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us. Lol.
 
Well seems to be about right...

Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg
 
Oh I thought prop was around 87 lol my bad, then you only get about 15mg more. 13 to be exact, but I'm rounding up. Haha. Either way, this guy posted some nice numbers, and this lab is definitely worth a shot if you're looking for a new source to try it out. I'd highly recommend them, brother.
 
Does anyone have any solid test results or experiences with PSL hgh pharma. I am looking for a solid pharma hgh source. So far i have read a lot of good reviews.
 
I currently doing some PSL Enorm Pharma (domestic brand) Test E 600mg/week and it definitely works. I am getting bloods next week and will post them too. So far, I have had a great experience with them - super fast shipping, fair price, etc...
 
tj124 said:
Question for you people? In the states you can get your blood work without a doc prescribing it?
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Yes, depending on which state you live in. Most states allow it. The blood work is actually prescribed by a doc, but you tell the doc what you want, pay for it, and you get a script for it to take into the place where you get the blood drawn and analyzed. It is pretty cheap, too. A hormone panel for women (which is also good for men since it includes E2) is less than $60.
 
hurricane said:
i would love to see some tests on that hgh for sure
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I have seen them posted on another board somewhere, but for the life of me I cannot remember where; I will have to dig around and see if I can find them. I plan on saving up and buying some pharmacy grade HGH from PSL and then getting bloods done for it, just have to wait for Uncle Sam to let me have some of my tax money back first.
 
Sorry been busy with work. But no the hgh was not from psl, although I would love to try their hgh it was from another reliable source if you look through source talk im sure youll locate it. Also if you go to http://www.labsmd.com/index.php you can order your test kit to send to a lab select hormone panel for females (but choose male for testing) its cheaper and tests for everything your looking for, and you can add the hgh test to add with it if your trying to find out your hgh level.
 
bwise86 said:
Sorry been busy with work. But no the hgh was not from psl, although I would love to try their hgh it was from another reliable source if you look through source talk im sure youll locate it. Also if you go to http://www.labsmd.com/index.php you can order your test kit to send to a lab select hormone panel for females (but choose male for testing) its cheaper and tests for everything your looking for, and you can add the hgh test to add with it if your trying to find out your hgh level.
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depends on the state. where im located online option doesnt work
 
Nice to see this getting so much attention :)

Those TT numbers are definitely solid. My prescription test cyp @ 200mg/week puts me at about 1200ng/dL. Double that to 400 I would be about 2400ng/dL. Also you have to take into account that people's numbers will vary greatly depending on the person. My friend and I were running the same batch of PSL test E, both @ 500mg/week. My TT was in the 3100's while his was in the 2600's. The only way to truly know is to run a cycle with pharm grade, and compare the numbers. I've cruised @ 200mg/week with PSL cyp because I couldn't afford to refill my prescription at the time (out of pocket clinic :/). My blood work put me at 1160ng/dL. The dosing is right on.
 
at 6 week of Bayer Testoviron (TEST E) 500mg/week I had blood drawn and scored 1960ng/dl so yeah, it varies alot from person to person!
 
Concerning test levels threads like this drive me bonkers. Not once, not ONCE did anyone mention or ask what the injection frequency was, and how long was it from last injection and blood draw? This is critical. The standard protocol is inject once a week for at least 4 weeks, and have blood drawn after 7 days.

From this landmark study an average of 12 healthy young men (ages 21-35) 600 mg/wk yielded a mean average of 2,370ng/dl +/-150. So if OP followed this protocol (injecting twice a week and having blood drawn 3.5 days after last inject will give basically the same result) then this gear has a passing grade. And note that 2370/600 is 3.95. Where some of you guys come up with 5, 6, 7 times truely baffles me. Where does that come from? Because a buddy you know got that after getting bloodwork the same day? The only way these numbers are accurate is if we all follow a standard protocol.

To sum up this study....

125mg/wk median total was 570ng/dl +/- 75 so 4.56
300mg/wk median total was 1,345ng/dl +/-139 so 4.48
600mg/wk median total was 2,370ng/dl +/-150 so 3.95

So the being 'run off' by those Meso clowns for 5.5 is total ignorance..

Me personally on 215mg/wk of Watson or AY test cyp I routinely get 975ng/dl so 4.53. I have a friend who on 200mg/wk Watson got only 580ng/dl on three straight occasions, then all of a sudden, same vial was getting 890ng/dl. This is not an exact science folks.

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172

E1172
 
jerseydevil said:
Concerning test levels threads like this drive me bonkers. Not once, not ONCE did anyone mention or ask what the injection frequency was, and how long was it from last injection and blood draw? This is critical. The standard protocol is inject once a week for at least 4 weeks, and have blood drawn after 7 days.

From this landmark study an average of 12 healthy young men (ages 21-35) 600 mg/wk yielded a mean average of 2,370ng/dl +/-150. So if OP followed this protocol (injecting twice a week and having blood drawn 3.5 days after last inject will give basically the same result) then this gear has a passing grade. And note that 2370/600 is 3.95. Where some of you guys come up with 5, 6, 7 times truely baffles me. Where does that come from? Because a buddy you know got that after getting bloodwork the same day? The only way these numbers are accurate is if we all follow a standard protocol.

To sum up this study....

125mg/wk median total was 570ng/dl +/- 75 so 4.56
300mg/wk median total was 1,345ng/dl +/-139 so 4.48
600mg/wk median total was 2,370ng/dl +/-150 so 3.95

So the being 'run off' by those Meso clowns for 5.5 is total ignorance..

Me personally on 215mg/wk of Watson or AY test cyp I routinely get 975ng/dl so 4.53. I have a friend who on 200mg/wk Watson got only 580ng/dl on three straight occasions, then all of a sudden, same vial was getting 890ng/dl. This is not an exact science folks.

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172

E1172
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You are saying to inject once a week, yet most on this forum advocate for injecting Test E & Test C twice a week. I understand the half life of each but could you elaborate on why your stating that is the "standard" protocol. Also, are you simply referring to TRT only?


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Did you miss this part? So if OP followed this protocol (injecting twice a week and having blood drawn 3.5 days after last inject will give basically the same result) then this gear has a passing grade

1 week was the standard used in that study which as far as I know is the only one of it's kind, and most all TRT doctors tell you one week. When I do my own blood testing for long esters I do inject twice a week and draw blood 3.5 days last inject, and the result is very close to injecting once and week and blood draw after 7 days. But the point is, no one seems to take timing into account, and it is very important. See the chart below. Look at 2 days and then 7 days. At 7 days the level is about one third then at 2 days. So if Joe Gearhead gets a result of 6,000ng/dl after 2 days, and Buff Boyd gets 2,000ng/dl after 7 days without even mentioning the blood draw timing, everyone is calling Buff's gear severely underdosed even it was the exact same potency.

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jerseydevil said:
Did you miss this part? So if OP followed this protocol (injecting twice a week and having blood drawn 3.5 days after last inject will give basically the same result) then this gear has a passing grade

1 week was the standard used in that study which as far as I know is the only one of it's kind, and most all TRT doctors tell you one week. When I do my own blood testing for long esters I do inject twice a week and draw blood 3.5 days last inject, and the result is very close to injecting once and week and blood draw after 7 days. But the point is, no one seems to take timing into account, and it is very important. See the chart below. Look at 2 days and then 7 days. At 7 days the level is about one third then at 2 days. So if Joe Gearhead gets a result of 6,000ng/dl after 2 days, and Buff Boyd gets 2,000ng/dl after 7 days without even mentioning the blood draw timing, everyone is calling Buff's gear severely underdosed even it was the exact same potency.

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Very good point, indeed! I just had blood work and I did mine 2.5 days after the last time I pinned. Knowing this, I will make sure and wait 3.5 days. Thanks for the good info!


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I will sum it up from a friend of mine who is a DR, These are just base lines everybody who does these tests will have different results. Same with gh serum tests, Say Joe tests 10 iu 3 hours after injection and tests 34 ng but Pete does the same thing his test shows 24 ng ,it is just a base line
For right now it is the best way.
So it can be based on as above or you personally etc.
 
Jdcain19 said:
Very good point, indeed! I just had blood work and I did mine 2.5 days after the last time I pinned. Knowing this, I will make sure and wait 3.5 days. Thanks for the good info!
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TREE said:
I will sum it up from a friend of mine who is a DR, These are just base lines everybody who does these tests will have different results. Same with gh serum tests, Say Joe tests 10 iu 3 hours after injection and tests 34 ng but Pete does the same thing his test shows 24 ng ,it is just a base line
For right now it is the best way.
So it can be based on as above or you personally etc.
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Group hug... you guys are getting it! Frequency is paramount.
 
Taurus said:
Nice results. What AI are you using?
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AI I got from PSL, been using 15 mg of Exemestane everyday, 500iu HCG per week. Also got PCT from PSL as well Clomid and Tamoxifen, and for the past month been using 20mg of cardarine.
 
I am curious about the cardarine as well. This forum is the only forum that mentions it. Does it really work? I feel like it would be banned by the NFL if that was the case (it isn't on the banned substance list).
 
steeltownclown said:
I am curious about the cardarine as well. This forum is the only forum that mentions it. Does it really work? I feel like it would be banned by the NFL if that was the case (it isn't on the banned substance list).
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I have seen logs of people running GW and they say they love it. They say recovery time between sets is next to nothing (about half the normal time needed) and endurance wise they can do cardio forever. Most likely it is not on the list of banned items because it does not increase strength at all - it really only acts on your endurance. NFL players already have that in spades, so they would not really benefit from this drug. They need far more powerful drugs to help them go further than they already are. Normal humans, though, can see great benefit from it.
 
cybrsage said:
I have seen logs of people running GW and they say they love it. They say recovery time between sets is next to nothing (about half the normal time needed) and endurance wise they can do cardio forever. Most likely it is not on the list of banned items because it does not increase strength at all - it really only acts on your endurance. NFL players already have that in spades, so they would not really benefit from this drug. They need far more powerful drugs to help them go further than they already are. Normal humans, though, can see great benefit from it.
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NFL is slow to react. WADA banned it before Beijing.
 
bwise86 said:
Just got my blood work back today. Been using 500mg Test E each week here are mid cycle test results for the past 5 weeks. Been having problems posting pictures idk why but if its hard to see the number its 2786. I highly recommend them to anyone it was a pleasure dealing with them, and I will be a customer for life. Thanks again PSL!!
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Thank u sr I'll be posting my PSL Sust 250 bloods soon very glad your happy
 
steeltownclown said:
I am curious about the cardarine as well. This forum is the only forum that mentions it. Does it really work? I feel like it would be banned by the NFL if that was the case (it isn't on the banned substance list).
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Look at 90% of the people that push it and exactly what site to buy it from. Make your own conclusions from that
 
steeltownclown said:
good points. perhaps I will make a purchase if i have some money laying around.
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gw is amazing shit. try and it draw your own conclusion.There is alot of sarms pushing going in here and some is warrented they are great for cutting, i personally dont like s4 and for bulking would never pick a sarm over real gear but gw is the TRUTH. nothing compares to it endurance wise except probably epo and im not touching that.Thats as honest as you will get it
 
bwise86 said:
Just got my blood work back today. Been using 500mg Test E each week here are mid cycle test results for the past 5 weeks. Been having problems posting pictures idk why but if its hard to see the number its 2786. I highly recommend them to anyone it was a pleasure dealing with them, and I will be a customer for life. Thanks again PSL!!
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Looks good bro.
aestheticCurves said:
Nice to see this getting so much attention :)

Those TT numbers are definitely solid. My prescription test cyp @ 200mg/week puts me at about 1200ng/dL. Double that to 400 I would be about 2400ng/dL. Also you have to take into account that people's numbers will vary greatly depending on the person. My friend and I were running the same batch of PSL test E, both @ 500mg/week. My TT was in the 3100's while his was in the 2600's. The only way to truly know is to run a cycle with pharm grade, and compare the numbers. I've cruised @ 200mg/week with PSL cyp because I couldn't afford to refill my prescription at the time (out of pocket clinic :/). My blood work put me at 1160ng/dL. The dosing is right on.
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These are great points. I'm interested in trying PSL eventually. I'm esp interested in their Aromasin. Price looks fair. Bwise, were you using PSL Aromasin on this cycle? Anyone have bloods showing efficacy of their Aromasin? AestheticCurves? MountainMan?
 
alphalife said:
Looks good bro.

These are great points. I'm interested in trying PSL eventually. I'm esp interested in their Aromasin. Price looks fair. Bwise, were you using PSL Aromasin on this cycle? Anyone have bloods showing efficacy of their Aromasin? AestheticCurves? MountainMan?
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Not yet brother I only use Aromasin when I cut I'm not prone to gyno so far and been on gear over 15 years but I'll see if I can find and results about the PSL brand for u brother
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
Yeah, only bad thing with that is that their domestic line is so much more expensive than their international line. I don't mind the wait for saving the price right now, cause I have more than enough gear at the moment. Lol.
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Agreed - it comes down to having a lower price with more wait and a pass through customs or a higher price with less wait and no customs. I like having the choice.
 
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