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THE UNPREDICTABILITY of UGL LABS and SOURCES--STOLEN THOUGHTS BY ANALOGMAN

AnalogMan

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That said, what's the real state of UGL's and why. Get on board for the ride.

One minute this UGL is "g2g", the next they are the devil.

This problem seems to be twofold:

1. Materials
2. Procedures

The self-imposed radical secrecy surrounding powder sources doesn't help. #1. If people and UGL's had multiple sources - the bad ones would fade away in favor of the better vetted sources.

Onto the questions you should ask of yourself and your choice of lab.

Is your choice of UGL doing an continuous check on it's source materials?

Do the compensate the dosing based on analysis?

Are the rest of their materials USP/NF or AR grade?

(Sorry - supermarket oil doesn't cut it).

Do they even know why they are using BA and BB?

Do they know of the other options such as chlorobutanol?

Are they using aseptic procedure and sterilizing everything with heat and time in either dry ovens or autoclaves? Not "chemical" sterilization or "baking fluids".

Do they use 0.2 um membrane filters to purify the vial-ready mixed oils?

If they use a pump like a Dispensette, is it sterilized before use and is the makeup air also sterilized? (the pressure-equalization air can be filtered using one of those small whatman filters and an adapter)

Are the Vials stoppered IMMEDIATELY after filling? In a sterile manner?

Are the crimps solid and the vials/stoppers/crimp rings of adequate quality

These are the questions that need to be asked.

It would be optimal if the lab submitted random samples of finished product for biological contamination testing as well. Not sure if that's even possible on a large scale, though.

Can your UGL lie about these things? Sure.

But enough people asking enough questions,,, and...

The truth shall set you free.

Just a short ride, but we can go on a long one it needed. As I've always stated. AnalogMan does not "promote' anyone's products. I don't need "free" stuff.. I have enough . So, I'll keep it "real".. That's a promise.....AnalogMan
 
Good read brother, that will really make you think twice about who's gear you are running. Thanks again.


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That's why I prefer to brew my own or from someone i personally know! I know exactly what i use and that everything ordered was sterile out the package. I use new syringes every time and throw the used ones out, I don't care to try to "re-sterilze" them. I mean come on....They are plastic! I spent the extra money on pharmaceutical oils not off the shelf "food grade". Everything down to lab suits, googles, gloves, masks. All new. Once used they get tossed. And this is stuff i make for just me and my friends. But like I have said a before: I don't work my ass off in the gym and just inject something I have no idea about all the time. Take care about your health as much as your fitness.

Nice analog man, toooo many people asking has anyone heard of this source or that source.... We have good sources and people on here... Who needs some source with a site like: www.youwillberipped.com
 
Yeezus said:
That's why I prefer to brew my own or from someone i personally know! I know exactly what i use and that everything ordered was sterile out the package. I use new syringes every time and throw the used ones out, I don't care to try to "re-sterilze" them. I mean come on....They are plastic! I spent the extra money on pharmaceutical oils not off the shelf "food grade". Everything down to lab suits, googles, gloves, masks. All new. Once used they get tossed. And this is stuff i make for just me and my friends. But like I have said a before: I don't work my ass off in the gym and just inject something I have no idea about all the time. Take care about your health as much as your fitness.

Nice analog man, toooo many people asking has anyone heard of this source or that source.... We have good sources and people on here... Who needs some source with a site like: www.youwillberipped.com
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Where you learn to brew? Can recommeng video or blog?

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By researching, researching, talking to people who do it all the time, finding what people use as their best brew over trial and error, my own trial and error, putting a combo of the people's best test brews together to make one good one, more research, sourcing the CORRECT grade products. More researching, more talking to people who brew and consuming yourself with it like its all that matters that you stay up all night thinking about it while your girl sleeping next to you wonders why you are only into making test and not as much in to sex anymore.

That help? Yes I get compulsive about doing things right and the best possible.
 
OCD much? Was hoping you had instructional videos. Lol

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Btw I have a vial of ag-guys Viagra if anyone wants to trade for it.... I don't need It anymore! Lol

But for real I decided to get into brewing because when I move I dont know if I will be able to get gear easily and I don't need to risk getting bunk gear. And not only do I know the gear is top products (because i personally hand choose them, and not in the way that some foreign ugl picks up some grape seed cooking oil off the grocery store shelf) and I know everything is clean and sterile. And more then that I pay a bit less and I don't just send money out for what could be bunk gear.
 
OCD people do it best cause they wont quit til its right

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Hey Bro, I wanted to give you Big Props for you putting up "Missouri Medical", I have used them for years.. They are the best, and fast...I hope people caught that.. That's top shelf...Good looking out....AnalogMan
Yeezus said:
That's why I prefer to brew my own or from someone i personally know! I know exactly what i use and that everything ordered was sterile out the package. I use new syringes every time and throw the used ones out, I don't care to try to "re-sterilze" them. I mean come on....They are plastic! I spent the extra money on pharmaceutical oils not off the shelf "food grade". Everything down to lab suits, googles, gloves, masks. All new. Once used they get tossed. And this is stuff i make for just me and my friends. But like I have said a before: I don't work my ass off in the gym and just inject something I have no idea about all the time. Take care about your health as much as your fitness.

Nice analog man, toooo many people asking has anyone heard of this source or that source.... We have good sources and people on here... Who needs some source with a site like: www.youwillberipped.com
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AnalogMan said:
Hey Bro, I wanted to give you Big Props for you putting up "Missouri Medical", I have used them for years.. They are the best, and fast...I hope people caught that.. That's top shelf...Good looking out....AnalogMan
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Thanks man. I feel the same way about them. Like i have always said of people try to get out of there own lazy track and research a bit they will find what's good and worth it.

RESEARCHING AND RESEARCHING SOME MORE IS WELL WORTH THE TIME AND KNOWLEDGE.
 
AnalogMan said:
Hey Bro, I wanted to give you Big Props for you putting up "Missouri Medical", I have used them for years.. They are the best, and fast...I hope people caught that.. That's top shelf...Good looking out....AnalogMan
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Criptic?

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They know what they are doing. You order, you'll have a tracking # same day, and they are 2 day shipping. I've never had a problem with them.. So I just see folks asking for bac water etc.. This place is top shelf.. I don't know about others, I only use them. That's my go to, so thought I would pass it on, save it in your favorites and you may need something someday.. They had ALOT... AnalogMan
 
AnalogMan said:
They know what they are doing. You order, you'll have a tracking # same day, and they are 2 day shipping. I've never had a problem with them.. So I just see folks asking for bac water etc.. This place is top shelf.. I don't know about others, I only use them. That's my go to, so thought I would pass it on, save it in your favorites and you may need something someday.. They had ALOT... AnalogMan
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Thank you brother AnalogMan.
 
I'm the frog, you the King, all the lady's throw flowers under your feet.. This says what you are to me................AnalogMan
 

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I'm the frog, you the King, all the lady's throw flowers under your feet.. This says what you are to me................AnalogMan
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The hottest girl set's her eyes on the tribal leader! All the other girls set there eyes on his friends. I think you to make a good team. I am glad to be a friend.
 
I got something for you brother MrHat, this is a Bad Boy...AnalogMan
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The hottest girl set's her eyes on the tribal leader! All the other girls set there eyes on his friends. I think you to make a good team. I am glad to be a friend.
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AnalogMan said:
I got something for you brother MrHat, this is a Bad Boy...AnalogMan
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Hahaha... I was going to post mine. But after you showed what you had, I just went home and burnt mine.
 
Mrhat39 said:
The hottest girl set's her eyes on the tribal leader! All the other girls set there eyes on his friends. I think you to make a good team. I am glad to be a friend.
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You are right my good brother we are like twin we got a lot in common I love this man again no home lol
 
AnalogMan said:
Sign by Chet Atkins, he wasn't to bad.. Your a good brother, and person It's all my pleasure to be your friend....AnalogMan
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I have over 200 Chet songs. He had no equal. Only Tommy Emmanuel can hold a candle. But I have to say Jerry Reed can pick it pretty hot!!
 
I find it ironic that these new so called 'pharma' brands are nothing more than UGs that put your stuff in an amp, no certification, licensing with poor quality control to boot.
 
Mrhat39 said:
I have over 200 Chet songs. He had no equal. Only Tommy Emmanuel can hold a candle. But I have to say Jerry Reed can pick it pretty hot!!
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I saw Tommy Emmanuel a couple years ago in concert. Absolutely amazing. Very entertaining and energetic as well.
 
I'm sure some of these sources have the idea to scam people from the start after building up a little bit of trust...
 
Yeezus said:
Finally You pointed this one out.

I'm letting you guys handle giving out all of the surprises ��

This way I can sit back and say "told you so " ����
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I've known about this for a long ass time bro.

Like I've said to others, you can copy/paste the first sentence of any "thoughts by analogman" thread into google and find out who really wrote it. He has plagiarized many posts made by a long time member of a couple other boards who goes by Austinite.

The first time I mentioned something about "this was good stuff back when Austinite posted it" I got a threatening email from Analog. I should hav eput it all out back then, but I thought ah fuckit, I mean what real harm done? Not like many other people on the boards haven't done the same thing. So I let it go. Shame on me.
 
Yeezus said:
Finally You pointed this one out.

I'm letting you guys handle giving out all of the surprises ��

This way I can sit back and say "told you so " ����
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and you never told me shit.

But if you think you have any info I don't know, please PM me. :)
 
ceo said:
and you never told me shit.

But if you think you have any info I don't know, please PM me. :)
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No i knew u knew. But I've been talking to others about it when hey asked me what was happening, and couldn't make sense of any of it.

You have more time to spend on here then i do searching the web. I really only just got on the web web my old local source failed awhile back. Then I started searching, and finally decided to join in.

But the dude couldn't be more fake....

If your were some big timer then why don't you know how to run dbol... You show them that post yet?

I don't see a reason why anyone needs to feel a reason to act fake or who they are not! Infact if you don't know what's best it's better to say you have littler experience in it so you can get the best help. Not act like u were a Mr. O and run some fabulous pharma grade Vit and test lab. "real powerful stuff" I haven't hear of anyone making gains on it yet. Either way..... Why be fake.


Good work CEO 👍
 
fizzisnumerouno said:
You knew bro?
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Bro analog man and I haven't gotten along since day one. I could smell the crap he spoke from all the way over on the east coast. Don't I recall my arguments with him all the time. I just tried to be respectful about them, and not get booted for them again.
Lol
 
ceo said:
yes bro.he has been selling fake Saizen HGH, which was re-labeled corticosteroids.
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Damn...you can't trust anyone...I am assuming you are implying he knew and was doing it intentionally? How does anyone know what to believe now? I want to bash my head against the wall...lol

I mean its great someone is saying this or that source is good, but how do we know they aren't just making up multiple accounts and saying the same thing or running the lab or partners with someone running the lab, etc...this shit is enough to make your head spin...
 
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BigTurk said:
Damn...you can't trust anyone...I am assuming you are implying he knew and was doing it intentionally? How does anyone know what to believe now? I want to bash my head against the wall...lol

I mean its great someone is saying this or that source is good, but how do we know they aren't just making up multiple accounts and saying the same thing or running the lab or partners with someone running the lab, etc...this shit is enough to make your head spin...
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Even if he didn't know initially (which I don't believe), he was told back in early December that they were fake. The defensive stance he took back then about it, attacking the member who was telling him, defending his source, saying he got them straight from the pharmacy, with a patient's script, etc. Is all bullshit too. Which was it? Did he get them from a pharmacy, or from his source? He claimed both. Couldn't keep his stories straight. Unfortunately that thread died and was overlooked.

Paja posted his fake saizens again and I saw them this time and told him they were fake and said I hoped he didn't buy a bunch of them or use them or sell them to anyone else. He took the same defensive, attacking stance with me. Then I learned he tried to sell them to one of our mods (hurricane) only a few weeks ago, and he tried to sell them to another source, and he told that source he was "selling them on Evo for $300 all day long." Plus he had already been having them listed by another trusted source.
 
BigTurk said:
Damn...you can't trust anyone...

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I disagree.

it was easy to tell he was full of shit. his posts reaked of someone bullshitting.. who seriously brags about putting on 33 pounds on a cycle unless you are a noobstick who is 150 pounds and never worked out in your life. OR if you jump on steroids then quit training and eating after using them and take a yo yo approach. if you are a vet in this game like this guy claimed you are lucky to put on a few pounds of real muscle per cycle.. you don't put on 33 pounds and then another 30 pounds. its not possible !! it takes years and even a decade or more to put on 60 pounds of real mass the right and healthy way..

also it was obvious his pics were fake and not him. not that hard to figure out. I said the same thing about Reps for allah.. his pics did not match the person posting because the person posting was an irresponsible and idiotic kid who didn't know shit about what he was talking about.. I mean what serious bodybuilder blasts primo as a junk steroid considering its THE steroid developed specifically for bodybuilders in the first place.. so bashing it is like bashing the entire bodybuilding community
 
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stevesmi said:
I disagree.

it was easy to tell he was full of shit. his posts reaked of someone bullshitting.. who seriously brags about putting on 33 pounds on a cycle unless you are a noobstick who is 150 pounds and never worked out in your life. OR if you jump on steroids then quit training and eating after using them and take a yo yo approach. if you are a vet in this game like this guy claimed you are lucky to put on a few pounds of real muscle per cycle.. you don't put on 33 pounds and then another 30 pounds. its not possible !! it takes years and even a decade or more to put on 60 pounds of real mass the right and healthy way..

also it was obvious his pics were fake and not him. not that hard to figure out. I said the same thing about Reps for allah.. his pics did not match the person posting because the person posting was an irresponsible and idiotic kid who didn't know shit about what he was talking about.. I mean what serious bodybuilder blasts primo as a junk steroid considering its THE steroid developed specifically for bodybuilders in the first place.. so bashing it is like bashing the entire bodybuilding community
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Wow I almost bought in to his shit. Saying he can get this phamaceutical, blah blah blah. Where analog and Paja friends of reps? Weird how this plays out. Can't trust no one. Thanks CEO for the heads up. Analogman selling vitamins for a shit load. Looks at it and was like fuck that.
 
I used to buy Veterinary B12 for about $8 for a 100ml vial of 1000mcg/ml. B complex was cheap like that too.

It's Veterinary Pharmaceutical stuff. The Vet Pharma companies are usually divisions of BigPharma, like Pfizer, et.al.

I never had any issues with it. Not like they make it in the break room sink at the plant if it's for Veterinary use. They just put a label on it with an image of a horse and sell it to Vets and Feed/grain stores.
 
ceo said:
I used to buy Veterinary B12 for about $8 for a 100ml vial of 1000mcg/ml. B complex was cheap like that too.

It's Veterinary Pharmaceutical stuff. The Vet Pharma companies are usually divisions of BigPharma, like Pfizer, et.al.

I never had any issues with it. Not like they make it in the break room sink at the plant if it's for Veterinary use. They just put a label on it with an image of a horse and sell it to Vets and Feed/grain stores.
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Sent you a PM on MESO ceo.

mands
 
100lbulua said:
Wow I almost bought in to his shit. Saying he can get this phamaceutical, blah blah blah. Where analog and Paja friends of reps? Weird how this plays out. Can't trust no one. Thanks CEO for the heads up. Analogman selling vitamins for a shit load. Looks at it and was like fuck that.
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no idea if they were friends.

you can trust the mods on here, we know each other and have talked in real life so its not like one of us is going to be able to cheat or mislead you.. also we know each others addresses so its not like we are going anywhere
 
I'm in the same boat, thanks to the mods the CEO's, Stevesmi, Dylan's and ton of other contributors for having our back! I've spent many hours reading post from EF from some of the guys that gave up good info.
 
Flip Digler said:
All I can say is , thank you fellows , and your doing a great job !


Caaannn Uuuu Diigg It ?
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I agree...from this point forward I am going to really check out pretty much every source and everyone recommending it...better to be safe than sorry...its one thing to be injecting inert compounds, quite another to be injecting things that could kill you.
 
Holy crap. That's crazy sh@$. I hope people can really consider the damage they can cause on the new guys(like me). I watch these threads all the time researching and listening to what you guys have to say and yes I took some of his things in to consideration. Anyway once again thanks for looking out and things real.

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ceo said:
yes bro.he has been selling fake Saizen HGH, which was re-labeled corticosteroids.
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Holy shit!!!! That could cause severe renal issues!! Unreal!!! This is one of those times where I'd actually recommend people who bought his stuff to consider trying to find him, and peruse criminal charges! And what a sneaky son of a bitch! Cortisone causes water retention as does some GH...
 
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Delta1 said:
Holy crap. That's crazy sh@$. I hope people can really consider the damage they can cause on the new guys(like me). I watch these threads all the time researching and listening to what you guys have to say and yes I took some of his things in to consideration. Anyway once again thanks for looking out and things real.

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No matter how excited you get when you arrive to Evo , you need to be patient , hang out , examine , ask questions and read and then do it again , before you make a purchase ! The ones that have been here the longest have a reputation they want to keep .

These two guys are ruined on every fucking forum !


Caaannn Uuuu Diigg It ?
 
Wow I was wondering where they went I almost bought b12 from Paja hmmmm I'm glad I came over from EF and know I've been listening to experienced vets who are now here. Thanks brothers
 
Oldjarhead said:
Wow I was wondering where they went I almost bought b12 from Paja hmmmm I'm glad I came over from EF and know I've been listening to experienced vets who are now here. Thanks brothers
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They moved to meso where they tried to sell the same stuff and got flame hard on for it!
 
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