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You have no clue what your talking about and I'm not going to let you make shit up about him. Let's stop blaming people other then the dealer and ourselves. Everyone knew he was a new source. We all saw his first pist
Mr. Chicago said:
Yeah and he ruined his rep for bunk stuff, along with getting many good bros ripped off, what a guy right?
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Haha ok ptpt I think you are the one that has no clue. I'm not the one who suggested he got free gear but I sure as hell agree he was compensated in some way. I agree it is no ones fault but our own if we order or not but to have an endorsement by an EVO VIP, whatever that is worth and what you have to do to become one I do not know, but to many that was their reasoning for trusting defcon. I read Snow's posts too man he was all about zitexx, and something you may not know and I'm curious if he contacted anyone else with this, but Snow personally PM'd me out the blue saying something like, "hey man seen you around if you're looking for a good domestic source pm me back." I already knew what he was going to say before I even messaged back. Now why would he be PMing guys who did not even ask pushing sources on them?
 
I've been here over a year, and on EF for a decade, I don't need any fucking help finding a source, if he PM'd me I know for sure he did the same to 100's more. Why you so protective of a banned member anyway?
 
Can you forward me that pm? You obviously don't have to but I'm curious because I have never heard this from anyone before
 
I personally sent people I mod with on another board to him so I'm just as guilty. I believed everything. He seemed like a good legit person to me so I was the biggest sucker if he purposefully scammed all us
 
Him being banned means nothing to me. I don't ever like seeing people disrespected or put down unless there is just cause. If he was here to tell his side I wouldn't of said a word
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I've been here over a year, and on EF for a decade, I don't need any fucking help finding a source, if he PM'd me I know for sure he did the same to 100's more. Why you so protective of a banned member anyway?
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I know PTPT you're a good bro I remember you from EF but please believe he PM'd me, I'm curious to see if anyone else says hey you know what he messaged me too
 
I'm not about disrespect or putting anyone down but I have to go off the facts and share my opinion. It didn't really even hit me about the PM bc I figured he was just doing his Evo thing PMing active members but when he disappeared and everyone is unhappy with zitexx it just connected and seems fishey. Sometimes greed makes people do stupid things.
 
Snow is a good guy. He fell for the same BS as everyone else. He bought some bunk primo from the auctions. Once he realized it was bunk, he wrote a post on another board and asked me to post it here, but the link wouldn't work here. This is a shitty situation, but it isn't Mike Snows fault, it's Defcons


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No one is saying he did it purposefully, but I'm definitely saying many were swayed by the fact he endorsed the product. I believe he was compensated to do so, and without proof he was actively pushing the product through PM's and in my book that's almost as bad as if he scammed us himself.
 
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Snow is a good guy. He fell for the same BS as everyone else. He bought some bunk primo from the auctions. Once he realized it was bunk, he wrote a post on another board and asked me to post it here, but the link wouldn't work here. This is a shitty situation, but it isn't Mike Snows fault, it's Defcons


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Could you cut and paste and just add that it is comes from Snow. I'm actually curious on what he had to say. I believe he got taken too but I actually want to hear his side.
 
gmoneypro said:
Could you cut and paste and just add that it is comes from Snow. I'm actually curious on what he had to say. I believe he got taken too but I actually want to hear his side.
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This is the thread Snow started and wanted me to link.
Zitexx Pharamacueticals aka Defcon1 on Evolutionary.org has been selling a list of products and for un heard of prices so we decided to see what this primobolan was all about.. The primo is 70$ / Vial and anyone whose not a complete dumbass knows it is impossible to sell at that price unless you like giving money away.. Anyways, the first pics are what a Labmax primobolan test is supposed to look like, and the later pics are the Zitexx Pharmacueticals primobolan.. As you can guess it didn't have a millimeter of real primo so this must be known..

Here are pictures from the LABMAX website that show what primobolan should look like

[attachment=3]primo lm naked test 2.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=2]primo lm verify.jpg[/attachment][attachment=1]primo lm verify uv light.jpg[/attachment][attachment=0]primo uv light 2 lm.jpg[/attachment]
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Here is Zitexx being tested

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Zitexx Results

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Conclusion: Although labmax doesn't really test for absolute purity, we can tell from the labmax website that whatever is in these vials came up a some green garbage, could be test prop, could be EQ, could be both. But what we do know is that it's not what's marked on the vial of Primobolan.. Therefore this is bullshit and I recommend no one to buy this bullshit


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There was a connection somewhere between Snow and Defcon. I can't recall the exact thread but I remember the post clearly. He told another member to PM him for a Zitexx price list. So whatever that means. I'm not trying to accuse or instigate, simply recalling that comment specifically.


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DethMetl said:
There was a connection somewhere between Snow and Defcon. I can't recall the exact thread but I remember the post clearly. He told another member to PM him for a Zitexx price list. So whatever that means. I'm not trying to accuse or instigate, simply recalling that comment specifically.


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Man I had numerous convos with him, and not once did he ever try to push any defcon gear on me. Idk I don't want to get into an argument with you guys. I'm just stating my personal experience with him. Like I said before, the way I look at it is the only person to pass blame on to is Defcon. It's his gear and he said he would stand by it, now this fool is no where to be found.


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LAfit said:
Man I had numerous convos with him, and not once did he ever try to push any defcon gear on me. Idk I don't want to get into an argument with you guys. I'm just stating my personal experience with him. Like I said before, the way I look at it is the only person to pass blame on to is Defcon. It's his gear and he said he would stand by it, now this fool is no where to be found.


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Definitely agree 100%. I will try and find that thread and comment. I just remember it seemed odd to me, because at that point anyone could just contact Defcon for a list.


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Ok I just found it in my subscriptions, quoted the post and bumped it. So it will be at the top. Don't know what it means, just saying this is the connection that I saw.


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Hmm well idk, I do know that Mike also said defcon wasn't brewing this gear. Sounds like Defcon is a middle man.


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Yeah defcon is a lying piece of shit, I don't have enough proof to put blame of mike, whatever the connection he tried making it right after he found out the primo was shit so I give him props for that.
 
LAfit said:
Hmm well idk, I do know that Mike also said defcon wasn't brewing this gear. Sounds like Defcon is a middle man.


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Yeah that I believe cause how me and defcon conversation went. So I don't know. I don't think Mike was the bad guy at all. I just think he was taken as well. I just think we can blame defcon and ourselves for just jumping on something that really hasn't been proven. Defcon1 only cause he sold us crap gear. I just shit can the vials I had. I almost sold them to some knucklehead at the gym but I just couldn't do it.
 
at least we can vent to each other on here about getting ass banged. I was waiting on a pm all day but didn't get it I even cleared my pm's thinking that's what it was but at least I got my bathtub brew I even cleaned out my ball hair before I brewed it
 
I can always call out a fuckin rotten seed when I see one, something about that guy just had full of shit written all over that fuckin guy and what's fucked up is all these god dam rookies that milked his dick and promoted his ass for no reason.... Leads to this... See it time and time and time again....
 
Jzp you ended up placing an order with the guy? Hahaha ahh what helps dictate all your guys choices that are made mind boggles me.... Many times it's to save fuckin $10-15 a vial and end up losing fuckin everything including results that were to be made
 
BuryMeBig said:
I can always call out a fuckin rotten seed when I see one, something about that guy just had full of shit written all over that fuckin guy and what's fucked up is all these god dam rookies that milked his dick and promoted his ass for no reason.... Leads to this... See it time and time and time again....
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I know where my next order of tren will come from! As soon as I can get the ol lady to stop thinking she needs clothes and shit lol
 
BuryMeBig said:
Jzp you ended up placing an order with the guy? Hahaha ahh what helps dictate all your guys choices that are made mind boggles me.... Many times it's to save fuckin $10-15 a vial and end up losing fuckin everything including results that were to be made
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Ya bro remember I sent you a pm and told you I spent my juice money and his trash before I knew about this big mofo's golden honey :)
 
I wish I would of seen bmb's tren before I ordered def's, it looks amazing and that will be who i go with. Bmb is a straight up dude for sure


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hey guys im a vet at meso and thought id be honest. i guess i got a good batch of eq because vascularity, hunger, and redness of skin has increased. i also have increased bp and my strength is steadily increasinh. ill throwin his tren ace and blastit in a little to see how it feels.

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Haha I donno alpha I can't imagine eq being good if everything else sucks. What else are you taking? You've been on the eq what like a few weeks only, don't convince yourself it's something it isn't, not worth it to pump that shit into your body bro.
 
haha mr chicago im no.noob to gear. im running a log and was stagnant for while. the eq def increased my appeptite and vascularity britha. im sorry everyone got screwed....

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alphastrength50 said:
haha mr chicago im no.noob to gear. im running a log and was stagnant for while. the eq def increased my appeptite and vascularity britha. im sorry everyone got screwed....

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How much are you running? How long have you been running it? Batch numbers?


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ill found batch number. later. i think its been 5 weeks, jus started to.notice increase in appetite and vascularity at 600mgs week

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No one is saying you're a newb and i sure hope it is real bc I'm sitting on two bottles myself. Obviously EQ isn't the only thing you're running and when no one else has anything good to say about compounds that hit hard, tren, and can be tested, testosterone, then you can understand my skepticism on a slow acting compound like eq. If even zitexx test prop is bad then i can't imagine why the eq would be good but like i said I hope it is. Unfortunately I think all of us are starting to realize defcon was just a straight out scammer with no legit gear. Take it for what it's worth alpha everyone is going to form their own opinion regardless of what either us say.
 
is this source even listed in the source reviews section? I don't see them anywhere there

they are just some source who put up threads selling gear??

to prevent things like this from happening the rules were changed recently where a source must first be listed before they can advertise. they must have 200 posts and meet other criteria first. otherwise their thread will get locked, end of story. we aren't going to do this bullshit anymore where some source with 5 posts comes on here and starts putting up a bunch of threads selling gear. you gotta earn your way up first and contribute .. someone here to scam is less likely to stick around that long

everyone has to be responsible for their own money, just like if someone tells you a hot stock pick and you lose money on it. lets keep on networking and exposing the scammers and the good sources to prevent people from losing.. everyone did a great job in this thread
 
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Great idea Steve, yeah this defcon guy started posting auctions about a month ago and many people got sucked in, even an Evo VIP jumped on the zitexx train a bit too early and many others followed suit. Best way to vet these sources is like you said, make them earn the opportunity to sell to the good bros of Evo by kind of testing them. It's a privilege not a right to sell on here.
 
Mr. Chicago said:
Great idea Steve, yeah this defcon guy started posting auctions about a month ago and many people got sucked in, even an Evo VIP jumped on the zitexx train a bit too early and many others followed suit. Best way to vet these sources is like you said, make them earn the opportunity to sell to the good bros of Evo by kind of testing them. It's a privilege not a right to sell on here.
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yes it will definitely help.. it won't be a 100% effective of course. so everyone still needs to do their homework but it will help for sure.. I wouldn't go so far as calling it 'vetting' at all. more of just sources having to contribute and get to know members a bit before diving in. part of having an open source board is not having to vet, there will be brand new sources and there will be sources that have been around years.. sources domestic and sources international.. the beauty part is you get to pick who you want, just like going to the store and picking out a shirt.

following up on what some other concerns are in this thread. some of you have to realize this is an open source forum, with that comes the freedom to examine different sources.. we even have a trading thread, no other forum has such a thing. its a very liberal website, but with that comes a lot of responsibility so we need to all work together. can't depend on a mod to come in and save the day in situations like this.. are we going to track this guys IP down and go to his house and beat him up ? we are pretty powerless to do anything but check his IP and ban him if he is confirmed as a scammer, and we've banned quite a few scammers already. seems like this particular guy had been putting out good gear and then one day decided to turn scammer.. not sure why he did that because it only takes 1 crazy pissed off customer to track your ass down, lots of youtube vids of scammers from ebay and stuff being tracked down to their homes.

seems like 99.5% things run smoothly which is incredible, just shows what kind of community we have. but there is always that .5% of crooks we have to protect each other from so networking is important
 
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I'm really sorry for all of you that got sucked into this, but I am so glad I did not hop on this train when it came rolling through here.
 
Mr. Chicago said:
Haha ok ptpt I think you are the one that has no clue. I'm not the one who suggested he got free gear but I sure as hell agree he was compensated in some way. I agree it is no ones fault but our own if we order or not but to have an endorsement by an EVO VIP, whatever that is worth and what you have to do to become one I do not know, but to many that was their reasoning for trusting defcon. I read Snow's posts too man he was all about zitexx, and something you may not know and I'm curious if he contacted anyone else with this, but Snow personally PM'd me out the blue saying something like, "hey man seen you around if you're looking for a good domestic source pm me back." I already knew what he was going to say before I even messaged back. Now why would he be PMing guys who did not even ask pushing sources on them?
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He also PMed me saying the same thing.
 
This is not good. I wish I would have seen this mess before...I've got tren ace in the mail as we speak from defcon. I've been running it and questioning its potency. Doing 100mg eod and not feeling much. Did get a little night sweats, but nothing major. I'm going to bump it again to 150 eod and see what happens. Pray to God I do t have to drop the tren and screw up this cycle!
 
As far as the certain ex EVO members pushing Def's products via PM, that's a fact, it was strange because soon after he started pushing Zittexx he was off this site and started another board with another ex-member and a former source who a lot of people here had issue with and eventually got banned also.
 
rundmz7 said:
I cant believe NY rebel got this to 26 pages haha atta boy my man!!
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Run it son!!! Lol Defcon asked my shipping address last week, haven't heard back. I'll tell you suckers Endy, this medlab I switched to is killer. My daughter slept in my bed and she just woke with damp clothes, bahaha time for gym fellas.
 
NY REBEL said:
Run it son!!! Lol Defcon asked my shipping address last week, haven't heard back. I'll tell you suckers Endy, this medlab I switched to is killer. My daughter slept in my bed and she just woke with damp clothes, bahaha time for gym fellas.
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thats interesting because the rep over at PM posted bloods for test e amd thought numbers were amazing but it ended up being a low multiple i think 3x his test e dose...

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alphastrength50 said:
im assuming his tren ace and eth are about 60-70% based on pt 900mgs a week

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Ill assume 50% at the absolute most.. That's being generous lol
 
alphastrength50 said:
thats interesting because the rep over at PM posted bloods for test e amd thought numbers were amazing but it ended up being a low multiple i think 3x his test e dose...

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I'm talking about medlab tren.
 
alphastrength50 said:
i know bro just saying its crazy how a ugls more expensive product is better quality than cheap test raws

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Yea I guess, but if you run a UGL and want be in business for more then one month, gotta have a good product. And then when things go wrong, which they will, you do you're best make it right. I can't explain the test situation.. Hell in using his prop with the medlab tren just cause that's only prop I got left lol
 
The Kore Pharma Tren that I switched to is legit. I switched still dosing at 120-150 like I was the Zitexx but I have to lower it. A lot. Can't breathe, can't run, can't sleep!! Good Tren.


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DethMetl said:
The Kore Pharma Tren that I switched to is legit. I switched still dosing at 120-150 like I was the Zitexx but I have to lower it. A lot. Can't breathe, can't run, can't sleep!! Good Tren.


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Kore is another new, unproven source right?
 
alphalife said:
Kore is another new, unproven source right?
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Yes it is. Got a sample to try and give some feedback on. Definitely superior to Zitexx garbage. Having to lower the dose because well actual Tren sides!! So as far as it goes I have good things to say about it.
 
DethMetl said:
Yes it is. Got a sample to try and give some feedback on. Definitely superior to Zitexx garbage. Having to lower the dose because well actual Tren sides!! So as far as it goes I have good things to say about it.
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Superior to garbage huh? Haha. Glad to hear it was free. And glad your cycle is back on track. I'm sticking with the tried and true sources myself. Don't want to fuck up my precious cycle time.
 
Brad just said his test levels were about 3100 on the questionable test e, the same payrion tested haha so this just got a lot more confusing.
 
He is going to post specifics later but I'm pretty sure it was same exact batch if the fucking batch #s even mean anything but wtf right? I'm so stumped
 
Mr. Chicago said:
He is going to post specifics later but I'm pretty sure it was same exact batch if the fucking batch #s even mean anything but wtf right? I'm so stumped
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I'm not sure the batch numbers mean anything, just for looks.. I dunno man. I'm on his prop (meh) and switched from his tren and immediately noticed difference.. Can't even run half the dose I was on.
 
Mr. Chicago said:
He is going to post specifics later but I'm pretty sure it was same exact batch if the fucking batch #s even mean anything but wtf right? I'm so stumped
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It's confusing because everyone was saying how great the stuff was, then, the first labs came out and suddenly the same pins turned to shit. Trust no one and do the labs for yourself. There's too many people with agendas.
 
Well I know I ain't body, just looking for consistent source, and try look out for myself and you guys.. But like yall said, boils down to you knowing yourself, and getting facts from bloods, etc. I know %100 the tren was underdosed. But now that I got ten bottles, might just have run high dose this cycle and be done with it.
 
Wildthing78 said:
NY REBEL ur pm is full can't leave a message all I wants my track number what's up bro u were supposed to of shipped by now
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My bad sent your tracking bro.. Be happy I literally doubled you're order for waiting.. Lol
 
NY REBEL said:
Run it son!!! Lol Defcon asked my shipping address last week, haven't heard back. I'll tell you suckers Endy, this medlab I switched to is killer. My daughter slept in my bed and she just woke with damp clothes, bahaha time for gym fellas.
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Where can I find medlab products? Stuck with Zitexx tren a and pissed off. Need a cheap replacement.
 
Gemini996 said:
Where can I find medlab products? Stuck with Zitexx tren a and pissed off. Need a cheap replacement.
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Got mine in a trade bro, but if I didn't have it I would go BWL or robo I suppose
 
Gemini996 said:
All of my Zitexx Tren A are lot # 8467 expires 8/1/2018
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I think that's what mine were, I'll double check.. But you going need run 3x normal dose.
 
alphalife said:
Just saw it. 750mg/week. Using 10x standard his blood should have been 7500. Short 4000...
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This seems close.. Should be higher.
 
gmoneypro said:
Yeah and that's my last one. Trying to hold on to it for my cruise. Works wonders for my joint pain
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I'm sadly on my last medlab.. Guess after I finish that anna my BWL E, I'll be trying out PSL..
 
25express said:
Did you see the post on professional muscle. Labs came back confirming test wasn't just underdosed, it was veggie oil. Labs were posted by the rep thinking they were good.
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I havent seen that post and I haven't used thier test so I don't know. but I will look for that post. Thanks
 
No UGL and even most people using pharma's TT levels will never be 10x the dose. More like 5x-7x, but its still underdosed a bit.
 
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