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Can anyone suggest anything to help combat test prop PIP ? I'm 5 days in and when I hit my quads anywhere, well, it pretty much really fucking hurts the next several days. If I do delts it's not so bad but I can't hit those ED. Can't do glutes comfortably. And all other areas are uncharted so I'm thinking virgin muscles would hurt like a bitch as well. I'm really starting to think that my gear has a slightly high BA% so I was thinking of cutting it with grape seed oil to dilute it and then I'll just do a slightly larger dose! Any thoughts on this ? My reason for prop is that I've never ran test before and want to be able to jump ship quickly if I react negatively to it. But my goodness this Shit hurts. Lol , no I don't have a vagina .
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Cutting with grape seed oil will definitely reduce your pip bro, my training buddy is using test p and tren a with everyday injects and the pip was that bad he couldn't train, he sterilised some grape seed oil into a vial and just adds half a ml into the syringe with his gear, he swears by it cutting the pip down to nearly nothing. Hope that helps you a bit bro, ya definitely won't go wrong giving it a try for yourself
nasty_sauce
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do you bleed alot when shooting quads?
If you're going to add in some GSO to your Prop.
You're going to need to Heat it up, so the GSO mixes with the Prop.
Easiest way is to use a Double Boiler, and only bring the water to a Low Simmer.
Then you need to put a "Vent Needle" into the Vial as sudden Heat Expansion could crack your Vial.......................................... JP
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Look for USP-Grade GSO.
You're going to need to Heat it up, so the GSO mixes with the Prop.
Easiest way is to use a Double Boiler, and only bring the water to a Low Simmer.
Then you need to put a "Vent Needle" into the Vial as sudden Heat Expansion could crack your Vial.......................................... JP
P.S.
Look for USP-Grade GSO.
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Because I had the same problem with prop, I now warm up all my injections. It helps. I prepare the syringe, then wrap it in a heating pad on high for about 20min, then it's good to go. Pushes easier too if you want to use a smaller gauge pin.
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Actually I do the same thing, and recommend other people to do so as well. Warming up the oil helps a lot to reduce the pip.
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I can't even really do quads. Haven't found the spot that don't hurt. Hell i made a thread about it earlier this year lol
i find delts to be the best and least painful area
Test prop generally causes some pain for most people. It's the nature of the compound. Here are some tips:
1. Heat up the oil by running the vial under hot water for 1-2 minutes before your injection. Hot oil will disperse into the muscle much better
2. Gently rub the injection area 1-2 minutes after the injection to help disperse the oil into the muscle
3. Stick with the biggest muscle groups for injecting - quads, glutes and traps
4. I've always found to get less soreness when I train the muscle I injected in that day. I think because training the muscle helps move the oil around. In other words, if you injected quads, try to train legs that day
1. Heat up the oil by running the vial under hot water for 1-2 minutes before your injection. Hot oil will disperse into the muscle much better
2. Gently rub the injection area 1-2 minutes after the injection to help disperse the oil into the muscle
3. Stick with the biggest muscle groups for injecting - quads, glutes and traps
4. I've always found to get less soreness when I train the muscle I injected in that day. I think because training the muscle helps move the oil around. In other words, if you injected quads, try to train legs that day
I've been injecting quads for a week now and the pain is ridiculous. I have not been working out legs besides walking and running on them at work. I have decided to order som sterile gso but that won't arrive for another week so until then I'll be trying out the delta it's probably Gina swell up worse and be twice as sore but these quads need a rest and a chance to workout. The plan is to do delta for the next week and I'll be sure to run the vial under hot water, work them out, stretch them out and keep them active and hopefully the pip won't be so bad and hopefully I can hold off on my quads till the gso gets here. Both my legs have really sore lumps in the quads right now from the test p just hope that doesn't happen to my delts.
Just did my first pin with a grape seed oil cut . I only have 1.2 ml capacity so I use .75 ml test prop and .3 ml grape seed oil . So far so good but I'll let you know in a day or two. Pinned a quad to so I would know for sure if it helps.
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I suppose it's worth mentioning since nobody else has, inject very slowly as well, this will help. Also, try not to push the tip of the needle in farther while you push the plunger, this can be hard to do but I noticed I feel a lot more sore if the tip is wiggling downwards even slightly as I push the plunger (23g) in quad.
Make sure you go through the sterilization process with the GSO, don't want an infection!
Make sure you go through the sterilization process with the GSO, don't want an infection!
This video is the best method I've seen so far to go into the quads. It works, it's painless. I work out legs on the same day. I've been doing it this way for about 5 months now on TRT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfNlAZLxLyw
Pure oils . Net . Love love loved it just missed out on more 2 days ago. Now they are out again. It's weird now though because every time I go to there site it says it is unsafe.
I want to tell everyone it sucks so no one will buy it and then I can have it all to myself lol. You want to talk about alpha male feeling. I absolutely loved it . I posted a treadmill on here with my results and updates . Search "guinea pig " or guinea pig trestle and check it out. I so wish I would of had more. I'm doing test p and dbol right now and it is a joke compared to ment. Imo. But it was my first injectable cycle . Anyway if it was up to me I would never do anything else. I got my balls back halfway through my pct but I was without libido for 2weeks which I honestly didn't mid at all. I had a very clear mind during that time.
So it's been over 48 hours since my grape seed oil cut pin. I must say it works. The PIP I was getting was pretty painfully I'd say around a 7 out of 10. Kinda felt Luke I got hit with a ball pien hammer. With the GSO cut I still get some PIP but it just kinda feels like a bruise I'd say 3 out of 10. So IMO well worth it. Add two ibuprofen to the mix and I am pain free. I hope this will help some of you all who have the same issues I do. Also all I did was drew from my test vial then drew from my GSO then ran my syringe under hot water for two minutes. Flipped it around a couple times and did the deed. Not sure that's the best way to do it but seems to be a lot Better than it was so I'll take it.
Mmmm good prop should not be incredibly painful.
I did mention it to him. He told me it sounded like normal prop PIP . I wasn't real excited with the reply but whatever. My results so far are good , just painful so as I mentioned before it might just have a high BA% or something like that. Anyway I'll just deal with it . Not like I have a bunch of extra funds laying around to buy more right now. Plus I see that I am now over 50 posts so maybe I'll get a different source next time . If I can figure out how to go about that .
Thats bullshit. This is hammers downfall. He tries to put forth the best image but the guy consistently has mishaps with his gear. A little pip is one thing but this is more than that.
My source replaced my order plus one after I reported pip issues. My other source has reviewed test prop proven to create zero pip. This was proven in logs here by evo members.
Put this shit on Hammers source review. If you have some time he wont fix it so he's gonna have to deal with the consequence of a bad review..
Have you tried other injection spots?
I use a Tens Machine. Warm my Prop before pinning. I pin then take a warm shower. My shower head is removable so i point it to the location. Get out shower alcohol swab the are and Then hit my Tens Machine pads wherever I pinned. PIP Freeeeee. My Prop is 200mg/ml goodness I was suffering at half doses.
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Stay away from that lab i pinned test Propienate from Radjay Vermodje , pharmacom and Xeno and its 100% PIP FREE
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Yeah I agree. The customer service is bad ass. But I really thought I'd get a different response when I let them know what was going on. I have tried multiple spots. I even hit the pecs for the first time ever... Mistake . Couldn't bench for 4 days. It's weird but my right delt seems to be the most tolerant out of everywhere I've tried and believe me my left hand is not that steady lol.
I started adding a 1:1 ration of prop to GSO and switched from quads to my delta and PIP in almost non existent. I couldn't walk when pinning in quads but switching up to delta with gso has been a game changer. Able to get full workouts in finally with little to no pain.
You didn't pin delts every day though right ? My delts are very tolerant as well but they are being pushed to there limited.
My left shoulder is fucking swlloen up and sore as hell. Ndoimg 1 1/2 cc of Enth. Like some else mentioned its not always the content being shot but what u hit during injection... sometimes i think i may hit a nerve or some sensitive area when blasting. Also find this happens more when shooting more the 1 cc at a time..
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