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I wanted to share my experience with everyone in re to my cycle as well as my results. Pictures will speak for my progress...
Let me start off by acknowledging that I went against the grain and traditional advice of any Veteran here would advise... the back story to this is that I had jumped head first before even researching and I made an initial post asking people's opinion, but in reality I had already started my cycle and I went against the traditional collective wisdom of the group.
This is the story of my journey starting in May this yr - I'm not endorsing that this is the right path for any beginner.
Here's my starting stats:
Age:34
Height: 5' 6"
Weight: 180 - 185lbs (depending what day I measured myself)
BF:28-30% (depending what day I measured myself)
I've been doing crossfit on and off for the past 5 years, there would be periods where I would do crossfit 6 days a week for 6+ months straight and then I'd get bored or busy with life and would only do it 2x a week just to maintain some sort of exercise. Prior to crossfit I'd lift weight at the local gym and have been doing it since my early 20's.
In April I decided to go back just lifting weights and focus on getting back in shape, my goal was to drop BF% down to 15% level, i wasn't too concerned with weight. At the time I invested in a PT in order to form a new habit of waking up early in the AM to workout but also to get that extra motivation that was needed for me to be where I am at today. Through my PT, i was introduced to AAS as an option to build muscle and cut BF% as an aid and to achieve my goals faster. As those who are overweight may know, if someone offers you a way for you get lean and lose your gut, your biased and inclined to try something new, for me I recognized that AAS would be a boost to help me achieve my goal faster, I never had the thought that it was a magic pill and nothing else would be required for me to transform. I knew diet was 80% the key to success as that's the foundation, everything else are just helped contributed.
What was initially recommended to me was Test, Anavar, & Winny. What I ended up stacking was Test, Tren, Anavar & Winny. Yes - first cycle, high BF! - huge risk on all aspects - I didn't learn about the risks until 2 weeks after when I started to do my research and not just blindly trust my PT. By the time 2 weeks had lapsed, I decided to still stay on AAS despite all the risks simply because I was taking low dosages & not experiencing any negative sides like everyone lists for each AAS.
While on AAS my diet and training regiment has been:
Gym 7x a week, on weekdays M-F it would be a double session, Fasted Cardio in the AM for 1 hr and then weights for 1hr in the afternoon + 30 min cardio if time permits. Sat & Sun 1 hr cardio or 1 hr weights.
Diet I tried to keep it as simple as possible, ~1500 cal per day w/ 200-250g of protein, 50g of Fat & Carbs, no sugar, no processed food, no fruits. I was 80-85% consistent with this plan, there would be cheat days, but I tried to limit it to just a meal if I cheated.
I also took: Liv52, Fish Oil, CLA, Milk Thistle, and BCAA's.
1 gallon of water everyday, but I was only able to achieve this in the latter half of my cycle.
Tren Ace 100 / Test E 250/300 / Anavar and Winstrol
My first bottle of Test was from Iron Star Labs (250 mg / ml)
2nd bottle of Test E is from Pharmacom.
(Tren, Anavar, & Winstrol is all Pharmacom)
The cycle and dosage that I took:
Week 1 - Week 3: Tren 100mg EOD (300mg Weekly) / Anavar 50mg ED (350mg Weekly) / Winstrol 25mg ED (175mg Weekly) / Test E 250mg EW
Week 4 - Week 6: Tren 150mg EOD (450mg Weekly) / Anavar 50mg ED (350mg Weekly) / Winstrol 50mg ED (350mg Weekly) / Test E 375mg EW
Week 7 - Week 8:
Tren 100mg ED (700mg Weekly) / Anavar 60mg ED (420mg Weekly) / Winstrol 60mg ED (420mg Weekly) / Test E 400mg EW
Week 9 - Week 10
Tren 175mg EOD (700mg Weekly) / Anavar 70mg ED (490mg Weekly) / Winstrol 70mg ED (490mg Weekly) / Test E 400mg EW / Albuterol 32mg ED (224G EW)
Week 11 - Week 12:
Tren 175mg EOD (700mg Weekly) / Test E 400mg EW / Albuterol 32mg ED (224g EW) / HCG 500iu EOD / Arimidex .5 EOD
The reason why I increased the dosage is because I did not experience any physical sides that are negative to me. And since I saw great results, with only a few weeks left in my cycle, I just want to maximize my gains. The other reason is because I wanted to see if my body would react differently at different dosage, you will also notice that I added HCG at the end of my cycle, I didn't learn of HCG until I hit my 8 week mark and wasn't aware that Test and Tren would shut me down hard and with a 12 week cycle HCG would help keep with things running and not shut off completely.
I did not have any gyno issues, sex drive is as if i was in college. The only 4 sides that I noticed was elevated body temp (this is random and not always consistent), night sweats, not getting a full 100% sleep at night every 2-3 hours I would wake up and would fall back asleep, some minor insomnia but nothing bad & and acne on chest & back. On week 12 I started to have nosebleeds, but this happened 2x so far.
I am now waiting for 2 weeks to past before I start my PCT cycle, here is what I have planned based on the advice given to me so far:
Week 13 - Continue HCG for 1 more week at 500 IU EOD
Week 14 - Nothing
Week 15 - Clomid 100 & Nolva 40 ED
Week 16 - Clomid 100 & Nolva 40 ED
Week 17 - Clomid 50 & Nolva 20 ED
Week 18 - Clomid 50 & Nolva 20 ED
Week 19 - Clomid 50 & Nolva 20 ED
I recognize that the 2nd biggest challenge and hurdle now is to restart my body's natural production, and I'm no way in the clear as of yet and I hope that nothing serious or unrecoverable will occur. I plan on getting blood work to after PCT to see where I stand with Lipid profile, Blood pressure, Hormone levels,
T4/thyroid, & Liver enzymes.
My ending stats now is:
Weight: 170lbs
BF: 15-17%? there's a fluctuation since I've been using the handheld BF monitor and I know that's not accurate.
Pics below of my transformation: Just for context, back in 2012 I lost weight and BF naturally, it took me 6 months and while I achieved my goal, I was lean and did not have any size, the bottom pics is for comparison so you can see the diff in weight drop naturally vs with AAS.
View attachment 10797
So here's my question to the community...
1. Should I draw bloods now to see where my levels are at and then again after PCT is complete?
2. Should I increase the dosage of Clomid & Nolva or is that sufficient?
3. The drastic changes that I personally experienced, how much do you all think it could have been achieved with just a simple Test Cycle? I personally don't feel that I could have dropped the BF% like I did while building muscle mass without the help of AAS.
4. What other hurdles should I expect now?
I'll end this post with re-iterating that I'm well aware that the cycle I put myself through is something everyone would disagree with; Personally for me, it's been worth it based on the change that I've experienced and I still have a lot more to learn but it's been a great experience
Thoughts / comments / feedback good, bad negative all welcome...
I wanted to share my experience with everyone in re to my cycle as well as my results. Pictures will speak for my progress...
Let me start off by acknowledging that I went against the grain and traditional advice of any Veteran here would advise... the back story to this is that I had jumped head first before even researching and I made an initial post asking people's opinion, but in reality I had already started my cycle and I went against the traditional collective wisdom of the group.
This is the story of my journey starting in May this yr - I'm not endorsing that this is the right path for any beginner.
Here's my starting stats:
Age:34
Height: 5' 6"
Weight: 180 - 185lbs (depending what day I measured myself)
BF:28-30% (depending what day I measured myself)
I've been doing crossfit on and off for the past 5 years, there would be periods where I would do crossfit 6 days a week for 6+ months straight and then I'd get bored or busy with life and would only do it 2x a week just to maintain some sort of exercise. Prior to crossfit I'd lift weight at the local gym and have been doing it since my early 20's.
In April I decided to go back just lifting weights and focus on getting back in shape, my goal was to drop BF% down to 15% level, i wasn't too concerned with weight. At the time I invested in a PT in order to form a new habit of waking up early in the AM to workout but also to get that extra motivation that was needed for me to be where I am at today. Through my PT, i was introduced to AAS as an option to build muscle and cut BF% as an aid and to achieve my goals faster. As those who are overweight may know, if someone offers you a way for you get lean and lose your gut, your biased and inclined to try something new, for me I recognized that AAS would be a boost to help me achieve my goal faster, I never had the thought that it was a magic pill and nothing else would be required for me to transform. I knew diet was 80% the key to success as that's the foundation, everything else are just helped contributed.
What was initially recommended to me was Test, Anavar, & Winny. What I ended up stacking was Test, Tren, Anavar & Winny. Yes - first cycle, high BF! - huge risk on all aspects - I didn't learn about the risks until 2 weeks after when I started to do my research and not just blindly trust my PT. By the time 2 weeks had lapsed, I decided to still stay on AAS despite all the risks simply because I was taking low dosages & not experiencing any negative sides like everyone lists for each AAS.
While on AAS my diet and training regiment has been:
Gym 7x a week, on weekdays M-F it would be a double session, Fasted Cardio in the AM for 1 hr and then weights for 1hr in the afternoon + 30 min cardio if time permits. Sat & Sun 1 hr cardio or 1 hr weights.
Diet I tried to keep it as simple as possible, ~1500 cal per day w/ 200-250g of protein, 50g of Fat & Carbs, no sugar, no processed food, no fruits. I was 80-85% consistent with this plan, there would be cheat days, but I tried to limit it to just a meal if I cheated.
I also took: Liv52, Fish Oil, CLA, Milk Thistle, and BCAA's.
1 gallon of water everyday, but I was only able to achieve this in the latter half of my cycle.
Tren Ace 100 / Test E 250/300 / Anavar and Winstrol
My first bottle of Test was from Iron Star Labs (250 mg / ml)
2nd bottle of Test E is from Pharmacom.
(Tren, Anavar, & Winstrol is all Pharmacom)
The cycle and dosage that I took:
Week 1 - Week 3: Tren 100mg EOD (300mg Weekly) / Anavar 50mg ED (350mg Weekly) / Winstrol 25mg ED (175mg Weekly) / Test E 250mg EW
Week 4 - Week 6: Tren 150mg EOD (450mg Weekly) / Anavar 50mg ED (350mg Weekly) / Winstrol 50mg ED (350mg Weekly) / Test E 375mg EW
Week 7 - Week 8:
Tren 100mg ED (700mg Weekly) / Anavar 60mg ED (420mg Weekly) / Winstrol 60mg ED (420mg Weekly) / Test E 400mg EW
Week 9 - Week 10
Tren 175mg EOD (700mg Weekly) / Anavar 70mg ED (490mg Weekly) / Winstrol 70mg ED (490mg Weekly) / Test E 400mg EW / Albuterol 32mg ED (224G EW)
Week 11 - Week 12:
Tren 175mg EOD (700mg Weekly) / Test E 400mg EW / Albuterol 32mg ED (224g EW) / HCG 500iu EOD / Arimidex .5 EOD
The reason why I increased the dosage is because I did not experience any physical sides that are negative to me. And since I saw great results, with only a few weeks left in my cycle, I just want to maximize my gains. The other reason is because I wanted to see if my body would react differently at different dosage, you will also notice that I added HCG at the end of my cycle, I didn't learn of HCG until I hit my 8 week mark and wasn't aware that Test and Tren would shut me down hard and with a 12 week cycle HCG would help keep with things running and not shut off completely.
I did not have any gyno issues, sex drive is as if i was in college. The only 4 sides that I noticed was elevated body temp (this is random and not always consistent), night sweats, not getting a full 100% sleep at night every 2-3 hours I would wake up and would fall back asleep, some minor insomnia but nothing bad & and acne on chest & back. On week 12 I started to have nosebleeds, but this happened 2x so far.
I am now waiting for 2 weeks to past before I start my PCT cycle, here is what I have planned based on the advice given to me so far:
Week 13 - Continue HCG for 1 more week at 500 IU EOD
Week 14 - Nothing
Week 15 - Clomid 100 & Nolva 40 ED
Week 16 - Clomid 100 & Nolva 40 ED
Week 17 - Clomid 50 & Nolva 20 ED
Week 18 - Clomid 50 & Nolva 20 ED
Week 19 - Clomid 50 & Nolva 20 ED
I recognize that the 2nd biggest challenge and hurdle now is to restart my body's natural production, and I'm no way in the clear as of yet and I hope that nothing serious or unrecoverable will occur. I plan on getting blood work to after PCT to see where I stand with Lipid profile, Blood pressure, Hormone levels,
T4/thyroid, & Liver enzymes.
My ending stats now is:
Weight: 170lbs
BF: 15-17%? there's a fluctuation since I've been using the handheld BF monitor and I know that's not accurate.
Pics below of my transformation: Just for context, back in 2012 I lost weight and BF naturally, it took me 6 months and while I achieved my goal, I was lean and did not have any size, the bottom pics is for comparison so you can see the diff in weight drop naturally vs with AAS.
View attachment 10797
So here's my question to the community...
1. Should I draw bloods now to see where my levels are at and then again after PCT is complete?
2. Should I increase the dosage of Clomid & Nolva or is that sufficient?
3. The drastic changes that I personally experienced, how much do you all think it could have been achieved with just a simple Test Cycle? I personally don't feel that I could have dropped the BF% like I did while building muscle mass without the help of AAS.
4. What other hurdles should I expect now?
I'll end this post with re-iterating that I'm well aware that the cycle I put myself through is something everyone would disagree with; Personally for me, it's been worth it based on the change that I've experienced and I still have a lot more to learn but it's been a great experience
Thoughts / comments / feedback good, bad negative all welcome...
