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devildog

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How many of you here compete? I know the number is probably 1-2%, maybe less. Anyhow, this thread will be about contest preparation. Yes, that will entail everything from the food down to the tan. This will be a log I can return to later, as can my Son Joey if he ever decides to go this route later in life (which I discourage for my reasons), as well as you. Let's get started.

Like any well written book, there's a beginning, a middle, and, of course, an end. This thread will be akin to a book that hasn't yet been published, meaning, the material will seem somewhat "scattered" to all of us until compiled based upon consensus. How to compile it? Simple. At the end of the thread, and by the time a consensus in reached, a new thread will be created with the material compiled accordingly, and similarly to how a "guide" or "book," is written, the link to it will be posted at the end of this thread.

I'll start with what is sadly the most "important" topic among bodybuilders, or aspiring bodybuilders, and that's anabolic/androgenic steroids, and other hormones related to the sport which I consider 15-20% max compared to CORRECT nutrition, sleep, and training. It really pains me to see "guess what ____ is taking," or "____ pro takes this stack." BULLSHIT! As soon as those of you with common sense realize that ___ pro, and ___ national-level competitor has great genetics, the better off you will be. The ONLY silver bullet in this sport is knowing there is no silver bullet... When freak genetics are combined with outstanding nutrition, great sleep, CORRECT training, and anabolic agents, the synergy speaks for itself on "game day."

I started bodybuilding at age 21. I am 41 today. Over the years, I have spent a minimum of $100,000 on everything related to bodybuilding, if not more. Probably much more. In addition, I have trained with top athletes and numerous professional bodybuilders. I became friends with several, and three are sadly now deceased. Mike Matarazzo was one who really left a mark when he passed. He was a very nice guy! if any of his friends and Family were to read this introduction, I would say that his way of being had a good impact on my life in bodybuilding, as well as outside of bodybuilding. Through the passing of several I knew, I now take the health aspects of this sport more seriously than I did the AAS side of it when I was "young and dumb." I will be giving my experiences, and state that the use of androgenic anabolic steroids can and do have consequences. Keep that in mind going forward. We'll certainly touch on areas that many professionals wouldn't, and that's blood monitoring, as well as paying attention to what the body is trying to "say."

My stats:
5'11"
currently 10.6%
248lbs

THE PRE CONTEST CYCLE:
This is not the "be all, end all" way. It's just an example of how I get ready to take the stage.

Let's consider it's April (which it is Lol!) And I have a show in August. Starting in April, the AAS/HGH/"Other's" regimen:

Week 14
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Primobolan Depot 200mg EOD
Oxandrolone 20mg EOD (What? Not a whopping 100mg's/day? Say it isn't so!)
HGH 4 I.U's/day seven days/week
Aromasin 12.5mg/day

Week 6 up to stage, stop the HGH, as it thickens the skin. That isn't the goal we're looking for under the lights is it?

Week 4
Test prop 100mg EOD
Masteron Prop 100mg EOD
Anadrol 50mg/day
One week to 3 days out (depends on me at that moment in time), the Anadrol is dropped.

Week 2 - game day
Test Suspension 100mg/day
1mg Arimidex/day
Masteron 150mg EOD
One week out- Proviron 50mg/day
Stanozolol (Winny) 100mg/day
One week out- Halotestin 20mg/day

(Since I don't use Teslac anymore, I stick with Arimidex 2 weeks out - stage)

Dyazide (Maxide) 37.5mg see below:
Since it depends on how I look in the mirror, the diuretic dose varies. The "typical" for me would be:
Friday one 37.5mg tab in the morning, and another mid-afternoon. Yes, I'm sipping ice cubes at this point.
Stage day 37.5mg tab 6am, then half tab before prejudging

You'll notice there's no T3 in there, no clen, etc., These drugs are fine. I just don't happen to need them. Have I used them? Absolutely! I just don't get as heavy as I used to, and 15% body fat is my max. I'll take the stage anywhere from 4.5%-the high 3% area. NOTE, getting down this low in body fat is quite dangerous, and I only "hold" that for a short time, as it's VERY uncomfortable being that lean!

Ok, this is just an example, and is absolutely the start of a thread in it's infancy. I don't recommend anyone see my example of the above as something they've gotta do. I've known guys to take the stage having taken an Anadrol that morning. It gets down to genetics. And before I hear a bunch of crying around from those who have never competed, yet, are keyboard commandos, here's my rationale for the Anadrol: This has been common among the IFBB, and NPC for a long time. Anadrol, while cutting keeps a bodybuilder quite full, i.e., avoiding flatness, helps preserve mass, increases vascularity, water retention is low(er), as you're following a hypocaloric diet, doing cardio, consuming less carbs, helps with insulin sensitivity i.e., the carb up is awesome, gives overall feeling of well being, which helps during the caloric plunge, etc.,

As for nutrition, carbing up, water depletion, soduim manipulation, training, cardio, posing, tanning, shaving, etc., we'll go over that after we get all of the "magic bullet" shit out of the way, as I know it's coming like a Tsunami for now.
 
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And I'm sure I've left things out. I'm off today, and actually have the time for once to proof read. Lol!
 
I've competed once, and I will be competing in a national qualifier in 11 months (March 2015). This thread can be great. I will love to hear other competitors thoughts and I will share my own as well.

You don't prep with Tren?
 
I've competed once, and I will be competing in a national qualifier in 11 months (March 2015). This thread can be great. I will love to hear other competitors thoughts and I will share my own as well.

You don't prep with Tren?

No tren. Destroyed my lipids. We'll talk about that more another time. I have concerns with tren, even though it works WICKEDLY WELL for me. (Is "wickedly" even a word? LOL) My concerns are related to cardiac cells.
 
Sub'd. I'm assuming this is body building, how would prep go for physique division or the general health concerns go for that?

I was getting ready to compete natural physique last year when several dudes I knew came clean about their use in the natural division I was going to ever, I pulled from entering refusing to go in at a disadvantage and hopped on figuring I'd let my genetics shine with the same advantage they had and will be looking to step on the npc stage later this year.

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Dog this is already one of the best reads I have seen on any board, and although this is the first board I have registered on, except for the one's I was flamed on for being too young to use aas , and f*** them, I personally feel this qualifies as a sticky that will be added to. Looking forward to reading the rest of this book brother. Thanks for sharing the wisdom.
 
Sub'd. I'm assuming this is body building, how would prep go for physique division or the general health concerns go for that?

I was getting ready to compete natural physique last year when several dudes I knew came clean about their use in the natural division I was going to ever, I pulled from entering refusing to go in at a disadvantage and hopped on figuring I'd let my genetics shine with the same advantage they had and will be looking to step on the npc stage later this year.

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I know 6 guys that do physique and they all do a little something something......
 
I know 6 guys that do physique and they all do a little something something......

There's no such thing as natural. What a joke. Even the Christian bodybuilders are on the gas. Sure, there are some rare few out there, but that's exactly that. The rare few...
 
Before we go any further into the magic bullet stuff, I'd like to thank BigTurk for bringing a medicine to my attention that I'd never heard of, nor had a very good IFBB Friend. Hell, he ordered it as soon as he did the research. The medicine is called Trimetadizine, and from the intense research I've done, yes, it's already on order for me. Here's the thread: http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...eart-trimetadizine-studies-included-4234.html

Bodybuilding has ALWAYS been about the "search for the holy grail." Yeah I know, "run away! I blow my nose at you, and fart in your general direction." (Monty Python's search for the holy grail for you babies)
When I started, Cybergenics garbage was the rage, and the company got rich off me, and the other suckers out there. It went from that to creatine by EAS (Bill Phillips), and this actually DID work to a degree. Next, the "magic" protein blends, and all the other horse shit jacked up bodybuilders are paid to say they take, which would go on for 50+ pages if I went on... Forrest Gump lied about playing with his "flex-o'lite" ping pong paddle, and that's laughable. Telling people they'll be pushing 5 plates per side off their chests for reps is another story... The lying that goes on in the pro ranks in sickening, and yes, I've actually spoken out after seeing three well known pros die of cardiac issues AAS caused. And yes, AAS caused it + lack of monitoring + lack of doing anything about it, i.e., coming off which is IMPOSSIBLE if one is to truly compete against the rest, and expect to make a living selling bs garbage supplements, and signing autographs. The IFBB turned their backs on these guys vs trying to clean up the sport, and stop rewarding the largest, gear-using trash can looking thing, and I lost all respect, but also spoke out, which is one reason why I'll not be in the IFBB anytime soon. And yes, that's fine with me. I'd need to bathe every hour of the day if I were to get in bed with those liars.

Soooo. Since you will NEVER get the truth from them, you'll get it here, whether or not it's something you want to hear or not. That's just how I "roll" I guess you can say. I'm creating this log those of you who compete, or want to compete, for myself to come back to at anytime, as well as for my Son to someday read, so I hope this board sticks around. I'll probably copy and paste what I need to an email to myself just to be safe... When I originally started training with weights as a young Marine, I would have given a left nut to find a thread like this, as it would have saved me years of banging my head in frustration, as well as thousands to gurus to finally give me the real deal about A-Z bodybuilding. Of course, there was no internet then. I mean ZERO internet. Lol!

I started training to get big, but after running into one Marine who actually competed at times, everything changed for me, as it will for you if you actually hang around with someone who trains like hell, then lets all of that effort show under hot, intense lights in front of his peers, and family damned near naked... I often wonder why guys spend so many years training like mad, eating well, doing all the "fancy gear," yet, won't do what bodybuilding is all about: stepping on stage. Baffles me...

Anyhow, looking at my Son this evening eat his cheat meal at Chili's while I sit there eating a salad with two smuggled in tuna cakes, I decided to let loose all of the stuff I know vs hold back things here and there. The magic bullet stuff we'll cover, then hopefully move on to the things no one talks about which is the rest of the story...
 
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Those of you who do compete, or want to, would be wise to look at my above contest prep injections, break down what you'll be taking, and inject every day. Yes, EOD is 'ok,' but you'll see a MAJOR difference when you inject ED with short esters. Yes, this means, for example,
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Primobolan Depot 200mg EOD
Masteron 100-150mg EOD

would be (and this is just an example!)

Test Prop 50mg/day
Primo 100mg/day
Masteron 50-75mg/day

So, every week, you load up a week's worth of syringes, store them in a container, and when you get out of the shower, you grab one, use it like a "dart," aspirate, then inject (yes, I've actually had blood flow back (it comes in FAST!) 3-4 times in my life. Aspirate! The reason after the shower is you're clean, and remove much of the risk of infection, sterile abscess, etc., Yes, you still use an alcohol swab. Lol! I don't know how much easier I can make it. Shower, do an injection, deodorant, hair, after shave. pretty simple, yet, others make such a big deal about it...

By injecting every day, you'll keep a STEADY blood level vs peaks, and valleys which is the anti-thesis of what you're looking for. Plus it's easy as it becomes a morning routine.
 
Before we go any further into the magic bullet stuff, I'd like to thank BigTurk for bringing a medicine to my attention that I'd never heard of, nor had a very good IFBB Friend. Hell, he ordered it as soon as he did the research. The medicine is called Trimetadizine, and from the intense research I've done, yes, it's already on order for me. Here's the thread: http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...eart-trimetadizine-studies-included-4234.html

Bodybuilding has ALWAYS been about the "search for the holy grail." Yeah I know, "run away! I blow my nose at you, and fart in your general direction." (Monty Python's search for the holy grail for you babies)
When I started, Cybergenics garbage was the rage, ans the company got rich off me, and the other suckers out there. It went from that to creatine by EAS (Bill Phillips), and this actually DID work to a degree. Next, the "magic" protein blends, and all the other horse shit jacked up bodybuilders are paid to say they take, which would go on for 50+ pages if I went on... Forrest Gump lied about playing with his "flex-o'lite" ping pong paddle, and that's laughable. Telling people they'll be pushing 5 plates per side off their chests for reps is another story... The lying that goes on in the pro ranks in sickening, and yes, I've actually spoken out after seeing three well known pros die of cardiac issues AAS caused. And yes, AAS caused it + lack of monitoring + lack of doing anything about it, i.e., coming off which is IMPOSSIBLE if one is to truly compete against the rest, and expect to make a living selling bs garbage supplements, and signing autographs. The IFBB turned their backs on these guys vs trying to clean up the sport, and stop rewarding the largest, gear-using trash can looking thing, and I lost all respect, but also spoke out, which is one reason why I'll not be in the IFBB anytime soon. And yes, that's fine with me. I'd need to bathe every hour of the day if I were to get in bed with those liars.

Soooo. Since you will NEVER get the truth from them, you'll get it here, whether or not it's something you want to hear or not. That's just how I "roll" I guess you can say. I'm creating this log those of you who compete, or want to compete, for myself to come back to at anytime, as well as for my Son to someday read, so I hope this board sticks around. I'll probably copy and paste what I need to an email to myself just to be safe... When I originally started training with weights as a young Marine, I would have given a left nut to find a thread like this, as it would have saved me years of banging my head in frustration, as well as thousands to gurus to finally give me the real deal about A-Z bodybuilding. I started training to get big, but after running into one Marine who actually competed at times, everything changed for me, as it will for you if you actually hang around with someone who trains like hell, then lets all of that effort show under hot, intense lights in front of his peers, and family damned near naked... I often wonder why guys spend so many years training like mad, eating well, doing all the "fancy gear," yet, won't do what bodybuilding is all about: stepping on stage. Baffles me...

Anyhow, looking at my Son this evening eat his cheat meal at Chili's while I sit there eating a salad with two smuggled in tuna cakes, I decided to let loose all of the stuff I know vs hold back things here and there. The magic bullet stuff we'll cover, then hopefully move on to the things no one talks about which is the rest of the story...

Good stuff, DevilDog. I appreciate you sharing everything with all of us here on the board. I've researched and studied endlessly about bodybuilding contest preparation, but it's nice to here the "real" side that isn't talked about openly without the BS. You are someone that has walked the walk which means you can talk the talk
 
Dog this is already one of the best reads I have seen on any board, and although this is the first board I have registered on, except for the one's I was flamed on for being too young to use aas , and f*** them, I personally feel this qualifies as a sticky that will be added to. Looking forward to reading the rest of this book brother. Thanks for sharing the wisdom.

Glad to help!
 
Sub'd. I'm assuming this is body building, how would prep go for physique division or the general health concerns go for that?

I was getting ready to compete natural physique last year when several dudes I knew came clean about their use in the natural division I was going to ever, I pulled from entering refusing to go in at a disadvantage and hopped on figuring I'd let my genetics shine with the same advantage they had and will be looking to step on the npc stage later this year.

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The NPC is my area. You'll find some naturals. Just not many. And yes, I respect the physique guys quite a bit. After all, they do get all the ladies. Lol! How many women want a guy who looks like he could eat her. I mean literally eat her, not the other. Let's keep this clean. Lol! Yes, the physique guys step on the gas pedal as well. Just is what it is...
 
Good stuff, DevilDog. I appreciate you sharing everything with all of us here on the board. I've researched and studied endlessly about bodybuilding contest preparation, but it's nice to here the "real" side that isn't talked about openly without the BS. You are someone that has walked the walk which means you can talk the talk

Thanks. I'll try to answer everyone's questions along the way. I'm also hoping some others who do this step in, and let it rip. It's not like anyone knows who they are. And for the record, I'm not Rich Piana. He speaks out about the bs in bodybuilding, but his delts and arms are bigger than mine. I've got him on legs, but not delts and arms. Lol!
 
I'm seeing others post pics in avatars with faces blurred out, and those are contest pics. I'm hoping they step in, and contribute. One guy's perspective is fine I guess, but others are better.
 
The NPC is my area. You'll find some naturals. Just not many. And yes, I respect the physique guys quite a bit. After all, they do get all the ladies. Lol! How many women want a guy who looks like he could eat her. I mean literally eat her, not the other. Let's keep this clean. Lol! Yes, the physique guys step on the gas pedal as well. Just is what it is...
True that!!
 
Such a great thread, devil, and I so respect your non BS approach and sharing. I don't have nearly the experience but I will say that my first show I was natty, in a non natty show and was absolutely blown away at how even the bikini girls were on "something". I was truly ignorant to amount of use. I also love your approach on focusing on health. I'm just now starting to pay the price for my own stupid use (I had some responsible use too) but it will catch up to you if you aren't smart about it. As I learn more, I will likely advocate more, as you do, for the whole health perspective. :)

I'm curious...since you seem to be so open....what would you worry about more from a long term health perspective.....the use of aas or the use of HGH?
 
Such a great thread, devil, and I so respect your non BS approach and sharing. I don't have nearly the experience but I will say that my first show I was natty, in a non natty show and was absolutely blown away at how even the bikini girls were on "something". I was truly ignorant to amount of use. I also love your approach on focusing on health. I'm just now starting to pay the price for my own stupid use (I had some responsible use too) but it will catch up to you if you aren't smart about it. As I learn more, I will likely advocate more, as you do, for the whole health perspective. :)

I'm curious...since you seem to be so open....what would you worry about more from a long term health perspective.....the use of aas or the use of HGH?

I'm sure you'll do just fine! Once we get further in, I'm going to show a "prescription" I take, and recommend for antioxidants, vitamins, etc., that are LIFE-CHANGING even for heavy androgen users. And btw, I dated a female in the IFBB. I FULLY understand...

As for which would be worse AAS/HGH, that's apples and oranges. The AAS imo (especially the heavy androgens), can cause the death of heart cells, and that's B-A-D news! Fortunately, I found BigTurk's thread on the subject, and ordered what I'll be taking during every hard blast. is it a magic fix? No. But would help from what I've found. In addition, the lipid issues. Constant cutting, bulking, etc., isn't good for NORMAL people, no less those who step on the gas. My HDL was once 7, and LDL high 200's.:eek: I've known other guys who have had an HDL of ZERO, and yes, they're paying for this now in later years. I refuse to go there. Sure, I'll get down in the low 20's after stepping off the stage, but that's when I'm at my most vulnerable health wise due to my AAS use/numerous compounds. Arthersclerosis (hardening of the arteries), heart disease, hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (enlarged heart-imagine not being able to climb a flight of stairs, or have sex?:eek:), etc., are all possibilities with the COMBINATION of constant fat loss, then constant weight gain COUPLED with AAS, high bp's, high hemoglobin, etc.,

The HGH can cause other issues you've read about, but I now keep my doses at 4 iu's/day when cutting, as I'm ONLY looking for mild anabolism to spare muscle tissue, as well as the lipolysis. My main concern with HGH is enlarged heart, as the heart receptors are also susceptible to growth. Scary! Add in the fact that heavy squats (deadlifts, and other compound movements), tax the hell out of the heart + having HGH rushing through the system, and I'm sure you can imagine the possibilities! The acromegaly I'm not concerned about at these doses, nor am I concerned with bone growth, or the mild carpel tunnel. I use lifting straps when on 6iu's/day. YES, GH can cause internal organ growth, and at massive doses, just look at the IFBB today vs the 70's and 80's when there was actually an aesthetic look via small waist with big shoulders for the V-taper look. Today, these top level pros look like fat asses in their clothes, and that's not for me, sorry. These guys are also the products of the magic bullet where if this much is cool, and ___ is using that much, I'll ramp it up to here, and be bigger. What a mess!!! The GH I use for the cutting reasons above at 4iu's/day, and anabolic reasons, plus some lipolysis, and at 6iu's/day when building mass.
 
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Great thread and I am liking what I am reading so far Devildog. I have never competed but I have been seriously contemplating it for this coming fall, look forward to seeing all what I might be up against.


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Great thread and I am liking what I am reading so far Devildog. I have never competed but I have been seriously contemplating it for this coming fall, look forward to seeing all what I might be up against.


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You're only up against yourself... The rest are people who've shown up to lose...
 
You're only up against yourself... The rest are people who've shown up to lose...

Haha, that's perfect brother...I have felt that way about everything in life so far time to make it about a show as well.


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Haha, that's perfect brother...I have felt that way about everything in life so far time to make it about a show as well.


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M88, I can tell you, competing is an awesome feeling. Imagine stepping on stage looking phenomenal and people admiring you. Once you get posing down, you will be set. Posing is HUGE.

The way I see it is prep is you vs yourself. You have to have the dedication and the will to obtain your best physique for the stage.

Once you get on stage, nothing else matters at the moment. Imagine getting the "center" call and just smiling.

Brother if you do on show, I bet you will enjoy it and want to do it again.
 
M88, I can tell you, competing is an awesome feeling. Imagine stepping on stage looking phenomenal and people admiring you. Once you get posing down, you will be set. Posing is HUGE.

The way I see it is prep is you vs yourself. You have to have the dedication and the will to obtain your best physique for the stage.

Once you get on stage, nothing else matters at the moment. Imagine getting the "center" call and just smiling.

Brother if you do on show, I bet you will enjoy it and want to do it again.

Outstanding! Very good advice, and something everyone should see! Go do it m88. It's time to see others keep this going as us "old guys" won't be doing it forever. Speaking of old guys, I'm up past my bedtime, and have a full day ahead. LOL!!
 
You're only up against yourself... The rest are people who've shown up to lose...

This couldn't be a more true statement. When I step on stage, the only person I'm out to beat is myself, besting my previous self every step of the way. I let the rest of the cards fall where they may. A plastic trophy is just a bonus. I do this for me
 
M88, I can tell you, competing is an awesome feeling. Imagine stepping on stage looking phenomenal and people admiring you. Once you get posing down, you will be set. Posing is HUGE.

The way I see it is prep is you vs yourself. You have to have the dedication and the will to obtain your best physique for the stage.

Once you get on stage, nothing else matters at the moment. Imagine getting the "center" call and just smiling.

Brother if you do on show, I bet you will enjoy it and want to do it again.

Anybody that has been up there knows how addictive it is. Prep can be grueling, but the moments on stage are nothing that can be replicated elsewhere. A truly incredible experience that can only be felt by being there
 
This couldn't be a more true statement. When I step on stage, the only person I'm out to beat is myself, besting my previous self every step of the way. I let the rest of the cards fall where they may. A plastic trophy is just a bonus. I do this for me

Bingo! I do it for MYSELF and improve my physique. It's all about doing better than your last show. I completely agree
 
Devildog and Redam thanks for the motivation on competing. It is something that I will most likely pursue, I now know who to talk to when the time comes. Thanks again.


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Anybody that has been up there knows how addictive it is. Prep can be grueling, but the moments on stage are nothing that can be replicated elsewhere. A truly incredible experience that can only be felt by being there

It definitely is! You feel like you can do anything. The first trainers I had for prep were an older married couple who had been in the industry a long time. They told me over and over and over you are only there to compete with yourself. You can't predict who will show up or what shape they'll be in or even which way the judges will go so just focus on beating your last appearance and bring the best package you can. They also told me that the second you walk backstage, you'll be tempted to start comparing yourself and you'll likely want to quit before you even go out. DON'T DO IT! Of course, that's the first thing I did. LOL The mental game is just as challenging but it's so worth it to know you got there. I didn't decide to compete with the hopes of making money or going pro etc. I just wanted to see if I had it in me to do it. :)
 
Awesome post man I will be following. Any suggestions on where to find good local shows to compete in? Other than my gym.
 
Awesome post man I will be following. Any suggestions on where to find good local shows to compete in? Other than my gym.
 
Awesome post man I will be following. Any suggestions on where to find good local shows to compete in? Other than my gym.

Depending on where you are, there should be a few. In VA there is some that take place at the stage on the beach or others take place at colleges on their stages.

Just try and google your area plus bodybuilding shows...
 
Anybody that has been up there knows how addictive it is. Prep can be grueling, but the moments on stage are nothing that can be replicated elsewhere. A truly incredible experience that can only be felt by being there

I always wonder why all these folks in gyms spend countless hour hoisting iron, eating well, using gear, etc., only to keep their shirts on, and never do what bodybuilding was actually intended to be, which is getting out there, and competing. Fear is 90% of it I'd guess, as I was that was as a new guy. After the first show, it's like that first tattoo. Gets in the blood... And I've only got two tattoos, and in the beginning it cost me. now, it seems they're no big deal among most judges.
 
Are there gear-related questions we need to cover before moving into cutting nutrition? I'm sure some have questions. Now's the time to ask. If not, the questions can always be asked anywhere in this thread, as it's a "rough draft" of the final.
 
Are there gear-related questions we need to cover before moving into cutting nutrition? I'm sure some have questions. Now's the time to ask. If not, the questions can always be asked anywhere in this thread, as it's a "rough draft" of the final.

Your take on nutrition is what I'm actually most curious on. I'm pretty sure I sacrificed more mass than I needed to last prep, and went in a little flat. I've made some changes that I will be using next prep, but I'm always open to hear other opinions.

As for gear, I'm curious what your off season regiment looks like including blasts/cruises. When I look at your gear for prep a couple things stand out. I know you go to test suspension at the end, but I was surprised that you are keeping test high that late at 100mg ED up to show. I also figured your Masteron dose would be higher. I know a lot of guys swear by at least 100mg ED the final weeks. Also do you stop the primo before the show or are you running that all the way to show time?
 
I am very interested in the nutrition portion, the gear is good to talk about but I know I for one will need plenty of help with nutrition. I have maintained 8-9% for long periods of time but never dropped much lower than that. Really interested in learning about that final week leading into the contest.


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Bring on the nutrition discussion!
 
Your take on nutrition is what I'm actually most curious on. I'm pretty sure I sacrificed more mass than I needed to last prep, and went in a little flat. I've made some changes that I will be using next prep, but I'm always open to hear other opinions.

As for gear, I'm curious what your off season regiment looks like including blasts/cruises. When I look at your gear for prep a couple things stand out. I know you go to test suspension at the end, but I was surprised that you are keeping test high that late at 100mg ED up to show. I also figured your Masteron dose would be higher. I know a lot of guys swear by at least 100mg ED the final weeks. Also do you stop the primo before the show or are you running that all the way to show time?

There's really no off season. I'll go up to around 15% bodyfat max, as it's not healthy to go above IMO, and I can dial in quicker that way. I'm either cutting, or gaining, mostly. There are times I get burned out, and attempt to maintain where I currently am at the time, and will stay that way for a few weeks, to a few months.

Some guys use more masteron. I've used more, and have used less. This dose happens to work best for me. As for the test, I'll switch over to Arimidex over Aromasin as for some reason, the Arimidex at 1mg/day works best for me. I'll note Arimidex destroys HDL, so know that. The only reason I use the suspension is I can better predict it, and control water. It "strikes hard," and that's what I'm looking for after emaciating myself the last weeks up to stage. And yes, some guys like masteron at that dose. I've tried it even higher, and the results were negligible. For me anyway... Last, I'll drop the primo, as I was only using it to spare muscle. It doesn't do much for me in terms of hardening, vascularity, etc., The Primo is, however, very anabolic if used at 600mg/week+ and for long durations IMO, and that's why I'll often even include it when gaining. But when cutting, I'm only using it to spare muscle.
 
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There's really no off season. I'll go up to around 15% bodyfat max, as it's not healthy to go above IMO, and I can dial in quicker that way. I'm either cutting, or gaining, mostly. There are times I get burned out, and attempt to maintain where I currently am at the time, and will stay that way for a few weeks, to a few months.

Some guys use more masteron. I've used more, and have used less. This dose happens to work best for me. As for the test, I'll switch over to Arimidex over Aromasin as for some reason, the Arimidex at 1mg/day works best for me. I'll note Arimidex destroys HDL, so know that. The only reason I use the suspension is I can better predict it, and control water. It "strikes hard," and that's what I'm looking for after emaciating myself the last weeks up to stage. And yes, some guys like masteron at that dose. I've tried it even higher, and the results were negligible. For me anyway... Last, I'll drop the primo, as I was only using it to spare muscle. It does nothing for me in terms of hardening, vascularity, etc.,

As for "off season," or when not dieting lol, I'll typically switch between sust, and cyp. I'll usually inject 400mg eod, along with deca at 200mg eod. I like eod injections with long esters, as weekly causes blood plasma levels to drop, and I'm looking for steady. There are times when I'll cycle off deca, and start on primo at 200mg eod, then switch back to an npp, keeping the Primo in there. I like injectibles vs orals. I'll mainly use orals when in contest prep. The hgh will be 6iu's day/ seven days/week. The main thing I've found for myself is maintaining a high blood level of androgens while taking in large amounts of nutrients. The amount of time in the above regimen can be between 16-20 weeks. When I cycle off, I'm not actually off. I'm injecting either 35mgs cyp eod, or 100mg eod. Again, don't do as I say or do... I believe most need time off. And yes, I've taken time off when my blood labs demanded it.
 
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As for nutrition, I've been running all over the place today, as I'm a single Dad with a Son in high school. Yes, I made the mistake of making a food run on a Saturday at Costco. :( Don't do it! Ever! So with that, I'll point out what's necessary when going shopping. I don't mind going. I just don't like going on Saturdays, as it's nuts in there! Plus my Son will be pushing for whatever he's into, so ill be rushing. I also went to Whole Foods Market today as well. :(

THE STORE:

Here's what I buy when cutting:

Whole foods market and Costco:
At Costco, I'll start in the meats, frozen foods area, of course. Today I grabbed up two large packs of sirloin steaks, and six pounds of fresh salmon. I picked up eight cartons of organic brown eggs (18 per carton), five 8lb bags of skinless chicken breasts frozen, five frozen packs of talapia, six LARGE bags of frozen mixed vegetables (has carrots, corn, etc., with carbs), four large bags of mixed veg broccoli, greens, etc., (low carb), three packs of spinach herb wraps, three packs sun dried tomato wraps, and a large container of sea salt mixed nuts. Yes, I get the dumb fuck looks from the fat asses when they see my cart. I just smile, and keep going.

Whole foods market:
Picked up some fresh greens, salad, lemons (for ice cold lemon water-good stuff!), red potatoes, some sweet potatoes, and over to get three lbs of ground flax seed from the "chute" dispenser lol, a pound of almonds, and pound of roasted mixed nuts. While grabbing some of my favorite skinless fresh chicken breast packs, the seafood guy talked me into the fresh salmon he had (bought three lbs), and three pounds of fresh tuna loin. (Love the fresh tuna loin blackened, and pan cooked-basically steamed-with lid on- in olive oil, minced garlic, ground pepper, sea salt, and a squeeze of lemon juice! Yum!) Yes, I like buying grass fed beef, and like buying "free range " chicken from a local mom and pop, and will get those in about ten days. For now, this will work. Also picked up organic coconut oil, and fish oil with EPA and DHA.

I'm already starting to forget stuff. 41, a teen Son, training, Saturday at Costco, Whole Foods Market, errands, etc., LOL! I bought frozen spinach, frozen green beans, and whole spinach, as I add it in with my tuna cakes, and other foods. I have enough canned tuna piled up to feed the 1st and 2nd Marine Divisions, as well as oats.
 
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When I come in the door, I'll put the frozen meats in one freezer, and the frozen veg bags in another. The fresh stuff goes in the fridge. On Sunday, I'll decimate the kitchen preparing the meals for a week. I'll weigh the food before cooking, then after cooking, put each individual meal in it's own container. I'll bag an entire day's worth of meals separately so I can grab and go. There's no excuses for not eating this way, or worse, eating garbage. The first three days of meals goes in the fridge. The remaining four go in the freezer to preserve nutrients. I'll pull the remaining meals the day before needed, and put in the fridge. Yes, I cook egg meals all in one day, and store. I HATE cleaning up egg related messes all over the counter tops every day, and notice no difference between making them daily (nutrient wise), and making them a week ahead of time. This Sunday meal prep takes several hours, but is wise as it removes excuses for not eating, and removes ANY excuse for eating garbage as it's RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME.

The above is where 90% + will give up, and remain average. It's too much like a "full time job" for the majority to do this... Some will start, and do well for a week or two, but they almost always go back to the same ol' same ol' bs of laziness + lack of dedication = average. It stuns me to see the 90% + go to the gym regularly, train intensely, use loads of gear, drink too many lazy ass protein shakes, and forgo the above.

I'll get into the meals, and meal cycles Sunday. I'm wiped, and don't want to leave important stuff out, only to have to come back pages later, and correct it; i.e., a jumbled mess. I'm glad to answer questions though.
 
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One last thing I'll mention after making sure the above posts were at least grammatically correct lol, is the need for good scales, good spices (garlic powder, onion powder, peppers, etc.,), and good cooking equipment. If it's cheap junk, it will cause problems, and when problems arise in prepping meals, people give up, and go back to whatever they were originally doing.

For those who like hard boiled eggs, an egg steamer is paramount! I'll NEVER boil water again. Ever! The shells peel like lightning, and it's just too easy. I bought two steamers for $21 each, and that means I can steam 14 eggs at a time.

For those who like beans (and you should!) a LARGE crock pot is mandatory. Especially if you're busy like me. You simply add in pre-soaked beans, the ingredients (I'll list these later in the thread), and walk away only to come back to a finished load of protein, carbs, fiber, and low fat, great-tasting meal. You'll be putting numerous remaining servings in containers for meals that will last all week. Longer if you freeze them. And yes, beans taste better after you freeze them. Don't ask me why.

Stove top cooking, oven cooking, and kitchen tools means actually going out, and buying stuff that a real chef would use. Not some Chinese Wal Mart garbage. Again, if you do that, and something goes wrong, you'll give up, or at least be pissed while prepping meals. Not a good thing! Spend the extra $. You'll keep this stuff forever anyway if it's quality. Who the hell wants to have some wobbling handle come off a pan, the food hits the deck, and you've gotta drive back to wally world to get another piece of shit while you're cursing mad about it??

Spices: Again, you don't just go out and grab some Wally world off the shelf shit. You look for gourmet spices as the difference is mars and venus. McCormick's is what you can find in your grocery. Cooking stores will also have other brands. I stick with McCormicks for the most part. Yes, it's 2-3 times as much $, and you get less product, but you really get more. Think about that one. If your foods taste great, you'll eat them, and look forward to eating. Now what will happen if they don't taste great, and you don't look forward to eating them??

more to come
 
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Great stuff. Will eventually compete so I'll be taking a lot of notes!

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I just now finished prepping a week's worth of meals, and as always, I'm dragging tail afterwords. Started at 7:00 PM, and finished over 3hrs later. This is IMO THE #1 reason why most don't get the results they're after. It's damned difficult getting all of this stuff weighed, cooked, separated, put in containers, bagged for each day, etc., It's literally mentally draining making sure all the numbers are right, as well as running back and froth from the microwave, oven, oven top, and grill. I was going to post my meals up step by step, but I'm gonna give it a pass until tomorrow afternoon. I don't want to leave anything out, and being somewhat carb depleted, and drained, had better listen to myself. More to come, however.

One thing I'll note right now, is the importance of allowing frozen meats to thaw before weighing them out. Take a look at how much water accumulates in each bag after thawing... If you were to weigh frozen pieces of meat, you'd wind up eating less protein than you were planning.
 
MEALS:

The following is an example of a cutting nutrition plan I happen to follow. I'll list certain #'s and you'll need to adjust accordingly. I'll start with an example of the program my Son is on. I eat the exact same meals, however, I adjust for weighing more than he does, meaning I add more. He is just over 6' 1" (16yrs old help!) and I'm 5'11" :( He started at 215, and 20.5%. I started at 258lbs just over 13%. Let's get started.

After weighing your THAWED meats, grains, measuring out fish oils, etc., EVERYTHING you put in your mouth, I recommend cooking eggs in a pan with pam spray, broiling fish in the oven, and for taste, I like the charcoal grill for steaks, and chicken. NO, I don't use the grill for fish, as it sticks no matter what I do, and some will fall through the grill, meaning a mess. Use the oven for fish for simplicity. Grill it if you want using aluminum foil.

One week's example of six meals/day:

Meal 1. 1/2 cup steel cut oats, 9 egg whites (egg whites ONLY), and 2 tsp EPA/DHA fish oil

Meal 2. 1 cup mixed frozen vegetables (for 25 carbs), 1/2 cup frozen vegetables containing broccoli, greens, etc., (for 5 carbs), 6oz skinless boneless chicken breast, 3 and 1/2 TBS ground flax seed

Meal 3. 1 cup mixed frozen vegetables (for 25 carbs), 1/2 cup frozen vegetables containing broccoli, greens, etc., (for 5 carbs), 7oz broiled blackened tilapia, 3/4oz mixed nuts

Meal 4. 1/2 cup steel cut oats, 6oz grilled lean sirloin seasoned in garlic powder and ground pepper, 3 and 1/2 TBS ground flax seed

Meal 5. 1 cup mixed frozen vegetables (for 25 carbs), 1/2 cup frozen vegetables containing broccoli, greens, etc., (for 5 carbs), 6oz grilled skinless chicken breast, 2 tsp fish oil

Meal 6. 1 cup mixed frozen vegetables (for 25 carbs), 1/2 cup frozen vegetables containing broccoli, greens, etc., (for 5 carbs), 6oz broiled salmon, 3 and 1/2 TBS flax seed

The next week (and you'll notice there are no protein shakes in here. I don't use ANY protein powder when cutting. I'll use one shake/day post w/o when gaining, but that's it. A 7lb tub of Muscle Feast lasts me a while.) I also use seasonings such as Louisiana hot sauce while cooking the egg whites, as well as ground black pepper. For the chicken, I use a gourmet powder that I buy locally. The fish I'll blacken, except for the salmon which I use gourmet garlic powder, and ground black pepper. The steak, I mentioned above.

Meal 1. 9 egg whites, 1/2 cup steel cut oats, 2 tsp fish oil

Meal 2. Sun dried (is low in carbs & yummy) tomato wrap with lean chopped turkey, 1 slice swiss cheese, and turkey bacon

Meal 3. Lean ground beef with sauces such as tomato sauce, light vinegar, mushroom, etc., with green beans, and red potatoes

meal 4. Lean pork or chicken chopped in a spinach & herb (low carb & yes, yummy), wrap with red peppers, lettuce, and 1 tsp of light balsamic blend

Meal 5. Grilled tuna, with black beans, and brown rice

Meal 6. Grilled chicken breast chopped and wrapped in a spinach or tomato wrap, lettuce, tomato, 1/2 tspn extra virgin olive oil, and balsamic vinegar

Supplements are many, and we'll get into that as we go further. Water intake is ICE COLD water and at 1.5 gallons/day, or until almost peeing clear. I'll often use numerous lemons to make lemon water as it tightens the skin, and is a great detox.

Third week:

Repeat week one, and visa versa.

Now, after reaching 9-10% body fat, I always move over to a carb cycling nutrition plan, which tricks the body into going even further down towards my goal of low single digit body fat, and is as follows, for example:

For the first three days, the meals are exactly as outlined above in week one. For the fourth day (the carb loading day):

Meal 1. (and this is for someone weighing 249 lbs-my last weight when starting the carb cycling) 1.5 cups steel cut oats, , 9 egg whites, 3 and 3/4TBS ground flax seed

Meal 2. 4oz skinless chicken breast, 3oz shredded wheat (NO milk, or anything else. I eat it as is), 1tsp extra virgin coconut oil

Meal 3. 3 and 1/2 cups mixed frozen vegetables (approx 80 carbs), 4oz bison burger, 1oz mixed nuts

Meal 4. Same as meal 2

Meal 5. 3 and 1/2 cups mixed frozen vegetables (approx 80 carbs), 5oz blackened tilapia, 1oz mixed nuts

Meal 6. Same as meal 2

The above carb cycling meals will bring me up to 10 days out. At that point I switch over to a LARGE amount of lean ground beef, bison, vinison, and elk, then carb deplete. More to come. I'm glad to answer questions at this point.
 
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God damn!!!!! R u tricking me into competing. Everything and more!!! I will be milking the shit out of this thread. This 41 year old is EVO-lving. Thx a ton devildog!!! I mean that!!!
 
Nice meal plan. This whole thread is awesome.

Thank you! I like giving out for free what I paid thousands for. No kidding. I once paid a TOP pro $5,000 to get me ready for a national qualifier. Ouch! BUT, it did work out well. Again, thanks.
 
God damn!!!!! R u tricking me into competing. Everything and more!!! I will be milking the shit out of this thread. This 41 year old is EVO-lving. Thx a ton devildog!!! I mean that!!!

Very welcome! And I'm also 41. Nothing stops guys like us, as we've got age, seasoning, common sense, wisdom, do I need to go on?:D Lol!
 
Forgot to mention. my Son came up with a 0 calorie concoction that's very nice on grilled chicken. For those who like to eat buffalo wings (No ranch LOL even though I love wings with ranch and/or blue cheese), take out a bowl, pour in some Frank's or Louisiana hot sauce, then add just enough distilled (white) vinegar to taste. No butter! Roll your chicken breasts in this, and enjoy! No one should have to eat rubbery, plain chicken. As for the wraps mentioned above, yes, chop the chicken breast in small pieces, put in the bowl with the this mix, toss, then add to a spinach or tomato wrap with the vegs you want. Yum!

As for the fish, I'll often pour malt vinegar over the top of each piece. Makes eating clean pretty nice.
 
Cheat meals once a week are fine until getting down to 9-10%. Once I'm down to 9-10%, and carb cycling, CHEAT MEALS ARE OVER! Yes, I know, no fun, but that's how it goes. After stepping off stage, the eating can begin with a vengeance.
 
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Those of you who are attempting to get down to a lean body fat are fooling yourselves if you think you can't get by without a good food scale. As I mentioned earlier, every single thing eaten must be weighed. If not, the results will basically be a waste of time, energy, and money. http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Ac.../ie=UTF8?m=A3NY0PTJTNDDMX&keywords=food+scale Less than $40, and most guys spend that amount on a vial of cyp...

As for the grilled chicken buffalo sauce I mentioned earlier, I tried it a few minutes ago with Louisiana hot sauce, and for this particular recipe, I hate to admit it, but the Frank's hot sauce works better. Yes, this is mixed with a small amount of distilled vinegar.
 
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I use this exclusively. Accurate as all hell.
 
Quality scales are so paramount, I can't stress it enough. These are what separate those who want to do it from those who actually go do it.

And btw, I keep telling you guys to check out some franks red hot with just a small amount of white vinegar mixed, then rolled grilled chicken breasts in it.. Just had another serving, and it's good stuff!!

Any more questions on the cutting nutrition?
 
Franks red hot is amazing.....

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I never cared for it until my Son demanded I try the franks/small amount of white vinegar concoction he came up with. For egg whites, try Louisiana hot sauce while they're cooking. I wonder how some guys can eat plain non seasoned stuff for 14 weeks+ I'd lose my mind. Sure, 10 days out, I'm all bland foods, but I can suffer for ten days.
Last, where on Earth did you get the handle flurdizzle? LOL!!
 
It's a partial of my name. I know, has nothing to do with aas or bodybuilding or anything of that sort.

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Quality scales are so paramount, I can't stress it enough. These are what separate those who want to do it from those who actually go do it.

And btw, I keep telling you guys to check out some franks red hot with just a small amount of white vinegar mixed, then rolled grilled chicken breasts in it.. Just had another serving, and it's good stuff!!

Any more questions on the cutting nutrition?

I know there are different views on this but do you set your macros by your bodyweight or a percentage. For example :

BWx1.5=protein
BWx1=carb
Set amount of fats

Or

Total cals.split into a set ratio such as 40/30/30


Mine leans more toward the 1st

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Anybody that has been up there knows how addictive it is. Prep can be grueling, but the moments on stage are nothing that can be replicated elsewhere. A truly incredible experience that can only be felt by being there

This is one of the best things I have read. I have many friends who bailed out of many shows. A few hours before prejduing I almost didnt go. I felt I didnt look good enough.
Then I won my class.
Now im hooked.


In the protocols listed I didnt see Mt2. Guys YOU CANT BE TOO dark on stage.

Also to the first timers, I'd recompensed not using any, Yes ANY, drugs going into your first show.
Alot of guys rely too much on them. Because thinking you "know how to diet" and dieting naturally without drugs to 5% are too different things. Just my .02
 
This is one of the best things I have read. I have many friends who bailed out of many shows. A few hours before prejduing I almost didnt go. I felt I didnt look good enough.
Then I won my class.
Now im hooked.


In the protocols listed I didnt see Mt2. Guys YOU CANT BE TOO dark on stage.

Also to the first timers, I'd recompensed not using any, Yes ANY, drugs going into your first show.
Alot of guys rely too much on them. Because thinking you "know how to diet" and dieting naturally without drugs to 5% are too different things. Just my .02

The reason you didn't see anything about mt2 is because I live in Florida, get more than enough sun, and don't personally need the mt2. I do however, use tanners such as jan tana, and pro tan. On page one of this thread, you'll observe where I created this as a log of what I personally do. Here's an article I happen to agree with: http://performancelab.ca/jantana.html
 
I know there are different views on this but do you set your macros by your bodyweight or a percentage. For example :

BWx1.5=protein
BWx1=carb
Set amount of fats

Or

Total cals.split into a set ratio such as 40/30/30


Mine leans more toward the 1st

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I actually use a ratio.
 
Care to elaborate or is that a different thread...I love the diet science :)

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Glad to. For cutting 45% protein 30% carbs 25%
Keep in mind these numbers change drastically on my carb cycling day, which I outlined in the thread.
 
Glad to. For cutting 45% protein 30% carbs 25%
Keep in mind these numbers change drastically on my carb cycling day, which I outlined in the thread.

Thanks, that's pretty darn close to what mine comes out to using the the other method

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How many of you here compete? I know the number is probably 1-2%, maybe less. Anyhow, this thread will be about contest preparation. Yes, that will entail everything from the food down to the tan. This will be a log I can return to later, as can my Son Joey if he ever decides to go this route later in life (which I discourage for my reasons), as well as you. Let's get started.

Like any well written book, there's a beginning, a middle, and, of course, an end. This thread will be akin to a book that hasn't yet been published, meaning, the material will seem somewhat "scattered" to all of us until compiled based upon consensus. How to compile it? Simple. At the end of the thread, and by the time a consensus in reached, a new thread will be created with the material compiled accordingly, and similarly to how a "guide" or "book," is written, the link to it will be posted at the end of this thread.

I'll start with what is sadly the most "important" topic among bodybuilders, or aspiring bodybuilders, and that's anabolic/androgenic steroids, and other hormones related to the sport which I consider 15-20% max compared to CORRECT nutrition, sleep, and training. It really pains me to see "guess what ____ is taking," or "____ pro takes this stack." BULLSHIT! As soon as those of you with common sense realize that ___ pro, and ___ national-level competitor has great genetics, the better off you will be. The ONLY silver bullet in this sport is knowing there is no silver bullet... When freak genetics are combined with outstanding nutrition, great sleep, CORRECT training, and anabolic agents, the synergy speaks for itself on "game day."

I started bodybuilding at age 21. I am 41 today. Over the years, I have spent a minimum of $100,000 on everything related to bodybuilding, if not more. Probably much more. In addition, I have trained with top athletes and numerous professional bodybuilders. I became friends with several, and three are sadly now deceased. Mike Matarazzo was one who really left a mark when he passed. He was a very nice guy! if any of his friends and Family were to read this introduction, I would say that his way of being had a good impact on my life in bodybuilding, as well as outside of bodybuilding. Through the passing of several I knew, I now take the health aspects of this sport more seriously than I did the AAS side of it when I was "young and dumb." I will be giving my experiences, and state that the use of androgenic anabolic steroids can and do have consequences. Keep that in mind going forward. We'll certainly touch on areas that many professionals wouldn't, and that's blood monitoring, as well as paying attention to what the body is trying to "say."

My stats:
5'11"
currently 10.6%
248lbs

THE PRE CONTEST CYCLE:
This is not the "be all, end all" way. It's just an example of how I get ready to take the stage.

Let's consider it's April (which it is Lol!) And I have a show in August. Starting in April, the AAS/HGH/"Other's" regimen:

Week 14
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Primobolan Depot 200mg EOD
Oxandrolone 20mg EOD (What? Not a whopping 100mg's/day? Say it isn't so!)
HGH 4 I.U's/day seven days/week
Aromasin 12.5mg/day

Week 6 up to stage, stop the HGH, as it thickens the skin. That isn't the goal we're looking for under the lights is it?

Week 4
Test prop 100mg EOD
Masteron Prop 100mg EOD
Anadrol 50mg/day
One week to 3 days out (depends on me at that moment in time), the Anadrol is dropped.

Week 2 - game day
Test Suspension 100mg/day
1mg Arimidex/day
Masteron 150mg EOD
One week out- Proviron 50mg/day
Stanozolol (Winny) 100mg/day
One week out- Halotestin 20mg/day

(Since I don't use Teslac anymore, I stick with Arimidex 2 weeks out - stage)

Dyazide (Maxide) 37.5mg see below:
Since it depends on how I look in the mirror, the diuretic dose varies. The "typical" for me would be:
Friday one 37.5mg tab in the morning, and another mid-afternoon. Yes, I'm sipping ice cubes at this point.
Stage day 37.5mg tab 6am, then half tab before prejudging

You'll notice there's no T3 in there, no clen, etc., These drugs are fine. I just don't happen to need them. Have I used them? Absolutely! I just don't get as heavy as I used to, and 15% body fat is my max. I'll take the stage anywhere from 4.5%-the high 3% area. NOTE, getting down this low in body fat is quite dangerous, and I only "hold" that for a short time, as it's VERY uncomfortable being that lean!

Ok, this is just an example, and is absolutely the start of a thread in it's infancy. I don't recommend anyone see my example of the above as something they've gotta do. I've known guys to take the stage having taken an Anadrol that morning. It gets down to genetics. And before I hear a bunch of crying around from those who have never competed, yet, are keyboard commandos, here's my rationale for the Anadrol: This has been common among the IFBB, and NPC for a long time. Anadrol, while cutting keeps a bodybuilder quite full, i.e., avoiding flatness, helps preserve mass, increases vascularity, water retention is low(er), as you're following a hypocaloric diet, doing cardio, consuming less carbs, helps with insulin sensitivity i.e., the carb up is awesome, gives overall feeling of well being, which helps during the caloric plunge, etc.,

As for nutrition, carbing up, water depletion, soduim manipulation, training, cardio, posing, tanning, shaving, etc., we'll go over that after we get all of the "magic bullet" shit out of the way, as I know it's coming like a Tsunami for now.

Bro you got a lot of knowledge thanks for shearing with us


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The NPC is my area. You'll find some naturals. Just not many. And yes, I respect the physique guys quite a bit. After all, they do get all the ladies. Lol! How many women want a guy who looks like he could eat her. I mean literally eat her, not the other. Let's keep this clean. Lol! Yes, the physique guys step on the gas pedal as well. Just is what it is...
Bro this is my favorite post. This exact one had me laughing in tears. I feel that your post will inspire and help guide many athletes. Its inspiring me thank you
 
Again, I'm glad to help. We'll get into carb depletion, and carb loading, along with the final week's training this weekend.
 
Glad to. For cutting 45% protein 30% carbs 25%
Keep in mind these numbers change drastically on my carb cycling day, which I outlined in the thread.
Great thread. Finally took the time to "DIGEST" the whole thing! hahah haaa ha...anyways joke.

Question: So..when you say you use a ratio as you outlined (45%pro...30%carbs 25%fat) that is a ratio of your total calories per day correct? The question is what are you basing your TOTAL DAILY CALORIC INTAKE off of? How many calories are we talking and do those calories stay fixed throughout or when you get below 10% do you drop your total calories again? Finally, I noticed that a great deal of your carbs come from vegtables. Would it be safe to sub things in like more brown rice or oats for example?
 
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