What's with my Estradiol levels???

[44Blues]

My E seems seriously low. Pre-cycle blood work had my Estradiol at 5.1. and 6 weeks into the cycle (outlined below) it was only at 6.3 and this was with running NO AI AT ALL because I knew the level was low to begin with and I felt I'd have a better cycle if I could get it to climb just a bit. I mean, I know I want it low, but not too low!

I think on occasion I also experience some low E sides including being moody, feeling achy, tired, depressed, anxiety, etc... Sometimes my sex drive/libido doesn't seem to be what it should given the Test I'm running. So I guess the question is, does anyone have any idea why (especially with no AI) I would be experiencing this low level of E? What can I do to bring it up a bit, other than pinning an insane amount of Test... lol.

TEST E 500mg per week
EQ 600mg per week
Anavar 50mg per day
Proviron 25mg per day

P.S. 6 week bloods showed my Test levels very high, so the gear is legit, no question about that.

Thanks!

 

[jp4355]

This is a Weird one cause more than 80% of the Circulating Estradiol in Men is derived from the Conversion of Testosterone.
So Decreases in Serum Test would be accompanied by Decreases in Serum Estradiol............................ JP
P.S.
But your Test is fine.
What other Blood Work was done and is it all within Range.

 

[44Blues]

Let me try and upload the entire blood work, should be 2 pages, with E on page 2. Again, this is at the 6 week mark, had been a couple days since I last pinned as I recall.

 

[NY REBEL]

I agree, would like to see the full panel

 

[Ahmad90]

500mg of test per week and your tests at 1300? What? Is this pre cycle bloods?


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[44Blues]

500mg of test per week and your tests at 1300? What? Is this pre cycle bloods?


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lol, no I can explain. This is from back in July, but I just got around to asking this question because the whole low E thing had been bugging me and I'm still feeling it even in the last week of the cycle where I am now. Anyway, at the 6 week mark I had experienced a pretty severe body acne breakout and I really lowered the Test dose for a week or 2 to see if that was the culprit, this blood run was done during that time. Turned out it was the Proviron causing the acne, not the Test. Test dose is back to where it should be but the E is still low

 

[Ahmad90]

Maybe the proviron has a strong affinity to lower your estrogen levels. Everyones different. For some people proviron will keep E2 the same, for others it will c**** E2. How much a day were you taking?


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[Ahmad90]

Oh nvm just realized you wrote 25. Have you hopped off the proviron?


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[jp4355]

OK now that helps.
I noticed that your LH & FSH are also Low.

So 1 question, you're not having any Discharge from your Nipples are you ?

If not, then the other possible problem may be this.
Low or Normal LH & FSH Levels in the presence of Low Estradiol suggest a Hypothalamic Problem.
A Pituitary Problem is most commonly associated with Elevated Prolactin Levels.

You really need to speak to a Doctor about this and have him order some tests........................... JP
P.S.
There are Several Tests that might be ordered, but he would also do a Physical Exam and a Background History.

 

[44Blues]

Oh nvm just realized you wrote 25. Have you hopped off the proviron?


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Yes, stopped the Proviron cold back in July

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OK now that helps.
I noticed that your LH & FSH are also Low.

So 1 question, you're not having any Discharge from your Nipples are you ?

If not, then the other possible problem may be this.
Low or Normal LH & FSH Levels in the presence of Low Estradiol suggest a Hypothalamic Problem.
A Pituitary Problem is most commonly associated with Elevated Prolactin Levels.

You really need to speak to a Doctor about this and have him order some tests........................... JP
P.S.
There are Several Tests that might be ordered, but he would also do a Physical Exam and a Background History.

No, no nipple discharge at all.

Okay, how do I take this up with the doc? Do I tell him exactly what I'm doing? I have one week left of this cycle, then of course PCT. Shall I just wait until PCT is over, do bloods and see where I'm at then?

 

[44Blues]

And what kind of doc should I be taking to, shall I start with my general practitioner, or just go straight to my urologist?

 

[LevButlerov]

I would rather say endo - you need to deal with hormonal issues, and an endocrynologyst is the way to go.

 

[jp4355]

OK I just read your last Post, being that you only have 1 week left till PCT then finish your Cycle.

Wait 6 Weeks after PCT is finished to do another Bloodwork.

If LH/FSH/Estradiol are all still Low, then I would see an Endocrinologist like Lev was mentioning............................... JP
P.S.
I wouldn't even mention the AAS at that point in time cause any effects that they were causing should no longer be the case.
P.S.S.
I highly doubt that Proviron was Crashing your Estro.
I regularly take 75 to 100 Mg and it has only Minimal effect.
It binds to SHBG much more than it does to Estro.

 

[stevesmi]

wait a second.. those bloods you weren't on anything? or were you on ?

how long were you off? it takes long estered test many weeks to clear the system

 

[44Blues]

wait a second.. those bloods you weren't on anything? or were you on ?

how long were you off? it takes long estered test many weeks to clear the system

With those bloods I was on but the dose was pretty low at the time. In the 2 weeks prior to those bloods I had taken the following...

250mg of Test E per week
300mg EQ per week
50 mg of Anavar a day
25mg of Proviron per day

The initial cycle was to be double the above dose but as I said earlier I lowered the dose for a couple weeks because of some severe body acne. The acne went away as soon as I stopped taking the Proviron. It's 10 weeks later now, doses are double what I have listed above but I'm sure my E is still in the tank because of how I feel.

Next week I start Perfect PCT, after that I plan to run bloods again.

 

[stevesmi]

With those bloods I was on but the dose was pretty low at the time. In the 2 weeks prior to those bloods I had taken the following...

250mg of Test E per week
300mg EQ per week
50 mg of Anavar a day
25mg of Proviron per day

The initial cycle was to be double the above dose but as I said earlier I lowered the dose for a couple weeks because of some severe body acne. The acne went away as soon as I stopped taking the Proviron. It's 10 weeks later now, doses are double what I have listed above but I'm sure my E is still in the tank because of how I feel.

Next week I start Perfect PCT, after that I plan to run bloods again.

then your blood work is perfectly normal.

your E is a little hot but a simple dose of an AI would of brought it down

it doesn't matter how low your dose is.. when you run any sort of exogenous hormones it will shut you down. your LH and FSH will be near 0 in all cases whether its 250mg a week of test or 2500mg a week

 

[MikeSnow]

I don't really see much of a problem here man, just do a proper PCT and get bloods again after pct

 

[somatropius]

Proviron blocks Testosteron-to-estrogen conversy, so low estradiol level can be partially caused by this prep. About LH and FSH. They are usually fall on and after cycle, it is normal situation, however now it is imposible to make kids.

 

[Jrbdallas]

With those bloods I was on but the dose was pretty low at the time. In the 2 weeks prior to those bloods I had taken the following...

250mg of Test E per week
300mg EQ per week
50 mg of Anavar a day
25mg of Proviron per day

The initial cycle was to be double the above dose but as I said earlier I lowered the dose for a couple weeks because of some severe body acne. The acne went away as soon as I stopped taking the Proviron. It's 10 weeks later now, doses are double what I have listed above but I'm sure my E is still in the tank because of how I feel.

Next week I start Perfect PCT, after that I plan to run bloods again.

Bro we didn't know this was what your running. Your blood work seems fine man.

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