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devildog
Evolutionary Retired
When I first got into this sport, and went to AAS, the common knowledge out there among amateurs was to pin once a week in the glutes. I did this for years, along with delts, but hated doing quads. Along the way, I noticed that sure, I could inject test e weekly, for example, but my blood levels would fluctuate, and that's not conducive to what we're looking for. Those who know it's smart to have nitrogen levels elevated continually wouldn't want those levels fluctuating would you?
Doctors used to believe (most still do, sadly), that since the testosterone cyp, enan, esters were long, that meant one 200mg injection every three weeks. WRONG!!!!!!!!! The extremely liberal docs who do HRT, will advocate once a week. Again, pretty close to wrong. I met one doc who actually knew what he was doing, and he had Men on injections of depo test 3x/week. Small doses, of course. Years ago, I started injecting long esters EOD, and noticed quite a difference. It wasn't until I was damned serious about winning shows vs going through the motions, that I found daily injections to be the way to go. Most of you are sitting there cringing reading this, but I'm going to fix that, and you can pay me later. Lol! ("hear me now, and listen later." Don't make me explain where that came from lol)
Since all I ever knew was the 3ml syringe (oh yes, I used to use the 5ml's to inject loads of the old Fort Dodge Equipoise), and have the golf balls (scar tissue) on each side of my glutes to show for it. Sure, I still use 3ml syringes, but have a better way for blasting IMO,and that's the use of daily injections with insulin syringes. Do we really want to inject EOD with 22-25g pins? Scar tissue... Plus the bigger pins are a little intimidating with constant use, and some guys will skip a day just to avoid that big pin. Avoidance behavior... There are other ways.
Considering I do zero training, or cardio on Sundays, this is my day to load pins. Of course, there's NEVER a true day off, as I'll run my ass off between the kitchen and grill for 3.5hrs prepping a week's meals. After I finally get all that mess done, I'll wash up, and bring my goodies to the kitchen table. I'll draw up oils in a 10ml syringe, add a NEW needle, and maintail sterile technique. (DO NOT draw the oil out, then use the same pin to back load the slin darts, as you'll likely touch the inside of the barrel with the pin, and to be safe, let's not do that.) I'll remove the plungers from insulin darts, and backload them (don't lay the plungers down. I do one at a time), allowing the oil to run down to the front of the pin, then I'll slowly turn it upright pushing the plunger in very easily, and knock the air out. Some of you may be worried you'll pull the plunger out of the slin dart when aspirating, but most have a "knurl" that prevents this unless you pulled like hell, which would be pure dumb ass.
I'll give a good example of a typical cutting regimen below, and will compare that to what I recommend below that:
Weeks 1-__
Test Prop 100MG EOD
Primo 200MG EOD
Masteron 100MG EOD
Add whatever orals for daily use
Most will inject the above with a 3ml syringe using a 1"-1.5" pin in the glutes, or a 1" pin in the quads or delts, and there's NOTHING wrong with that. However, what if you were to do the following?
Have your test syringes loaded in marked ziplock bags, as well as your Primo, and Mast in their own individual marked bags. You get out of the shower, grab what you need, stab, aspirate, inject, then comb hair, deodorant, after shave, and out the door. Pretty simple stuff. What I'm currently using are 30g 100unit slin darts with 1/2" pins. No, I don't want to hear any whining about viscosity. My trt depo test is pretty damned thick, and I get it through a 30g pin without pushing so hard that it comes out the back of the plunger. If you want, start with a 29g pin. It's your choice. I'm trying to eliminate as much scar tissue as possible due to large pin use, have VERY steady blood plasma levels 24/7, and of course, love the ease of this. With that, here's what the above example could be broken down to:
Since Prop, Primo, and Mast usually come in 100mg/ml doses, I chose these for ease of illustrating:
1/2ml prop, and 1/2ml mast in one dart, injected daily
1ml Primo in one dart injected daily
These daily injections will include: quads, delts, triceps, and biceps (ouch on the biceps, but you'll get used to it) I know one competitor who does quads, and that's up to you.
Ok, so what you'll have is:
350mg test prop/week
700mg primo/week
350mg mast/week
I would think that's a hell of a cycle for cutting. And just damned simple. Once a person gets the hang of getting out of the shower, then with clean hands, grabbing two baby darts, stabbing with ease, then hair, deodorant, etc., it's out the door, and ready to go without having to worry about blood leaking out onto that white dress shirt. LOL! Hope this helps!
Doctors used to believe (most still do, sadly), that since the testosterone cyp, enan, esters were long, that meant one 200mg injection every three weeks. WRONG!!!!!!!!! The extremely liberal docs who do HRT, will advocate once a week. Again, pretty close to wrong. I met one doc who actually knew what he was doing, and he had Men on injections of depo test 3x/week. Small doses, of course. Years ago, I started injecting long esters EOD, and noticed quite a difference. It wasn't until I was damned serious about winning shows vs going through the motions, that I found daily injections to be the way to go. Most of you are sitting there cringing reading this, but I'm going to fix that, and you can pay me later. Lol! ("hear me now, and listen later." Don't make me explain where that came from lol)
Since all I ever knew was the 3ml syringe (oh yes, I used to use the 5ml's to inject loads of the old Fort Dodge Equipoise), and have the golf balls (scar tissue) on each side of my glutes to show for it. Sure, I still use 3ml syringes, but have a better way for blasting IMO,and that's the use of daily injections with insulin syringes. Do we really want to inject EOD with 22-25g pins? Scar tissue... Plus the bigger pins are a little intimidating with constant use, and some guys will skip a day just to avoid that big pin. Avoidance behavior... There are other ways.
Considering I do zero training, or cardio on Sundays, this is my day to load pins. Of course, there's NEVER a true day off, as I'll run my ass off between the kitchen and grill for 3.5hrs prepping a week's meals. After I finally get all that mess done, I'll wash up, and bring my goodies to the kitchen table. I'll draw up oils in a 10ml syringe, add a NEW needle, and maintail sterile technique. (DO NOT draw the oil out, then use the same pin to back load the slin darts, as you'll likely touch the inside of the barrel with the pin, and to be safe, let's not do that.) I'll remove the plungers from insulin darts, and backload them (don't lay the plungers down. I do one at a time), allowing the oil to run down to the front of the pin, then I'll slowly turn it upright pushing the plunger in very easily, and knock the air out. Some of you may be worried you'll pull the plunger out of the slin dart when aspirating, but most have a "knurl" that prevents this unless you pulled like hell, which would be pure dumb ass.
I'll give a good example of a typical cutting regimen below, and will compare that to what I recommend below that:
Weeks 1-__
Test Prop 100MG EOD
Primo 200MG EOD
Masteron 100MG EOD
Add whatever orals for daily use
Most will inject the above with a 3ml syringe using a 1"-1.5" pin in the glutes, or a 1" pin in the quads or delts, and there's NOTHING wrong with that. However, what if you were to do the following?
Have your test syringes loaded in marked ziplock bags, as well as your Primo, and Mast in their own individual marked bags. You get out of the shower, grab what you need, stab, aspirate, inject, then comb hair, deodorant, after shave, and out the door. Pretty simple stuff. What I'm currently using are 30g 100unit slin darts with 1/2" pins. No, I don't want to hear any whining about viscosity. My trt depo test is pretty damned thick, and I get it through a 30g pin without pushing so hard that it comes out the back of the plunger. If you want, start with a 29g pin. It's your choice. I'm trying to eliminate as much scar tissue as possible due to large pin use, have VERY steady blood plasma levels 24/7, and of course, love the ease of this. With that, here's what the above example could be broken down to:
Since Prop, Primo, and Mast usually come in 100mg/ml doses, I chose these for ease of illustrating:
1/2ml prop, and 1/2ml mast in one dart, injected daily
1ml Primo in one dart injected daily
These daily injections will include: quads, delts, triceps, and biceps (ouch on the biceps, but you'll get used to it) I know one competitor who does quads, and that's up to you.
Ok, so what you'll have is:
350mg test prop/week
700mg primo/week
350mg mast/week
I would think that's a hell of a cycle for cutting. And just damned simple. Once a person gets the hang of getting out of the shower, then with clean hands, grabbing two baby darts, stabbing with ease, then hair, deodorant, etc., it's out the door, and ready to go without having to worry about blood leaking out onto that white dress shirt. LOL! Hope this helps!
