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Rbj

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I have been reading for a while but this is my first post on here.

I ran a SARM stack for 8 wks. I know you say mild suppression, but my libido is at about 50%. That is even after running 50mg clomid for 3 wks after stack. My questions are this:

1. You mentioned taking HCgenerate for my new PCT that i am going to run. I am going to purchase that now. Will it just raise my test or will it actually regulate it so when i am done taking them, i will be all good?

2. I just bought liquid clomid and going to take 25mg for 3wks again, along with the HCGenerate. How does that sound?

3. You mention people to do 25mg ostarine in their PCT. If Ostarine causes suppression why do you recommend it? Would you recommend it for me even though i was on it a month ago? OR do you only rec it PCT after a steroid cycle?

4. Would you recommend an AI? If so which one? I am assuming not since SARMS don't cause increased estrogen production..which is one of the perks of taking them.

Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
 
Rbj said:
I have been reading for a while but this is my first post on here.

I ran a SARM stack for 8 wks. I know you say mild suppression, but my libido is at about 50%. That is even after running 50mg clomid for 3 wks after stack. My questions are this:

1. You mentioned taking HCgenerate for my new PCT that i am going to run. I am going to purchase that now. Will it just raise my test or will it actually regulate it so when i am done taking them, i will be all good?
HCGenerate will help restore natural HPTA function and your natural testosterone production so your natural testosterone levels will be normal once you discontinue the product.

2. I just bought liquid clomid and going to take 25mg for 3wks again, along with the HCGenerate. How does that sound?
Dose both the clomid and HCGenerate for 4 weeks. HCGenerate at 5 capsules/day and clomid at 25mg/day.

3. You mention people to do 25mg ostarine in their PCT. If Ostarine causes suppression why do you recommend it? Would you recommend it for me even though i was on it a month ago? OR do you only rec it PCT after a steroid cycle?
There is no need to add ostarine to your mini PCT.

4. Would you recommend an AI? If so which one? I am assuming not since SARMS don't cause increased estrogen production..which is one of the perks of taking them.
There is no need to add an AI to your mini PCT.

Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
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I am in bold above.

Where did you order your clomid from? If your libidio is so low, even after 3 weeks of clomid at 50mg/day, I am worried that it might of been bunk. Always order your products from reputable companies such as N2bm.com, sarms1.com and ag-guys.com
 
Thanks Muskate. I ordered the HCGenerate and will start that with the clomid. The clomid was through a friend that gets "stuff" from his source and has for yrs. But, like you said, who knows. Now i bought it from AG guys. Prior my libido was off the chart!
 
Rbj said:
Thanks Muskate. I ordered the HCGenerate and will start that with the clomid. The clomid was through a friend that gets "stuff" from his source and has for yrs. But, like you said, who knows. Now i bought it from AG guys. Prior my libido was off the chart!
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I suspect that the clomid you used was probably fake then. Follow the mini PCT I outlined and your libido should be back to normal levels. Have fun!
 
@muskate got you well covered with your questions. However, I would also like to advise you to get all of your ancillaries and PCT before even starting a cycle, because many things may happen, and the music keeps playing even if you stop singing.
 
ya i know. i had my clomid but didn't really know about the HCGenerate. learned my lesson for sure. But i am going to stack both and see how it plays out. NOt sure if i will do another SARM stack or not.
 
Rbj said:
ya i know. i had my clomid but didn't really know about the HCGenerate. learned my lesson for sure. But i am going to stack both and see how it plays out. NOt sure if i will do another SARM stack or not.
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bro keep us posted....
 
muskate said:
I am in bold above.

Where did you order your clomid from? If your libidio is so low, even after 3 weeks of clomid at 50mg/day, I am worried that it might of been bunk. Always order your products from reputable companies such as N2bm.com, sarms1.com and ag-guys.com
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Here comes the PROVIRON advocate. I wish i could just pop up like the trojan guy and hook fools up.

Yea bro i like to pour the liquids out and examine them, anyone can put shit in a bottle and sell over the internet.
 
muskate said:
I am in bold above.

Where did you order your clomid from? If your libidio is so low, even after 3 weeks of clomid at 50mg/day, I am worried that it might of been bunk. Always order your products from reputable companies such as N2bm.com, sarms1.com and ag-guys.com
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What symptoms should one feel when talking clomid at 50MG and Aromasin at 12.5

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Well i just started my clomid and HCGenerate today. Doing clomid 50/50/25/25 while taking 5 HCGenerate per day (split up 2/2/1). Will keep you posted!

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Why are you saying Proviron advocate? I am assuming you are in much favor of it because...?
 
I been on the the perfect pct acc. To evo. The kick of HCG did work as far as the bringing the cohones back to norm but since I started the clomid and Aromasin by Emporium labs I have not felt any yet libido is still low any suggestions

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I started Friday. So I am 2 days in. I am not looking for a miracle overnight, just curious how long it takes for things to normalize? Am I looking for things to take shape at 4wks or will i see slow improvement each wk? I did wake up with a morning wood the other day which is a good sign. Erections are there but dont last long. HOping after doing clomid and HCgenerate for a wk or so that i will beging to see libido changes. Any experience shared is appreciated.
 
Rbj said:
I started Friday. So I am 2 days in. I am not looking for a miracle overnight, just curious how long it takes for things to normalize? Am I looking for things to take shape at 4wks or will i see slow improvement each wk? I did wake up with a morning wood the other day which is a good sign. Erections are there but dont last long. HOping after doing clomid and HCgenerate for a wk or so that i will beging to see libido changes. Any experience shared is appreciated.
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bro takes a few weeks to stabilize in pct...sometimes even 3-4 weeks...
 
Geerhead of Muskate, just giving you an update: 1 wk in and not much change. I know its too early to tell. I was wondering if you think i should add UNLEASHED to this PCT i am doing of clomid and HCGenerate? I have been reading up on it and people are definately a fan of it, but wanted your opinions. If so, where do i find it?
 
Rbj said:
Geerhead of Muskate, just giving you an update: 1 wk in and not much change. I know its too early to tell. I was wondering if you think i should add UNLEASHED to this PCT i am doing of clomid and HCGenerate? I have been reading up on it and people are definately a fan of it, but wanted your opinions. If so, where do i find it?
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bro nothing is going to change in 1 week...give it time
 
007ontoit said:
I been on the the perfect pct acc. To evo. The kick of HCG did work as far as the bringing the cohones back to norm but since I started the clomid and Aromasin by Emporium labs I have not felt any yet libido is still low any suggestions
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If you haven't felt anything, most probably you got bunk products. However, keep in mind that they don't start working right away - need to wait at least a couple of weeks.

Rbj said:
Geerhead of Muskate, just giving you an update: 1 wk in and not much change. I know its too early to tell. I was wondering if you think i should add UNLEASHED to this PCT i am doing of clomid and HCGenerate? I have been reading up on it and people are definately a fan of it, but wanted your opinions. If so, where do i find it?
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Don't rely solely on feelings and perceptions, because only blood work can really tell if there is anything wrong or right.
 
They are not bunk products, unless you are saying that AG guys (clomid) and N2BM (HCGnenerate) are bunk and i doubt that. I was just giving an update 1 wk in. Not looking for much change but hoping it happens soon. Energy is down a ton and just wanting it to come back.
 
Rbj said:
They are not bunk products, unless you are saying that AG guys (clomid) and N2BM (HCGnenerate) are bunk and i doubt that. I was just giving an update 1 wk in. Not looking for much change but hoping it happens soon. Energy is down a ton and just wanting it to come back.
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Hey I think me n you are having similar issues and therefore some of the reply are to me and some to you

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Yes i just realized that after i posted that his response on bunk products was to you and not me.
 
Keep us posted on the blood work - it is really the only reliable way of finding the truth.
 
Well, i was just going to post this morning:) i have been doing clomid (doing 50/50/25/25) nd hcgenerate (5 a day) for a wk and a day now and nothing. Gonna run this for a month. I have been super worried that i fucked myself after the triple stack and then this morning i woke up with a morning wood and we had sex! I was able to get an erection and keep an erection. Man am i so relieved! I know its tmi but i am pumped! Thanks to everyone so far that has helped me with your recommendations. Not out of the woods yet and gonna keep going with clomid and hcgenerate, but man is it working. I did a month of clomid before this as you know and nothing worked. Now with ag-guys clomid and hcgenerate i know feel like i know i have a penis:) and i feel my libido coming back again, etc. And this is only a wk and as of a couple days ago it was still not back. So i am progressing. Thanks!
 
Rbj said:
Well, i was just going to post this morning:) i have been doing clomid (doing 50/50/25/25) nd hcgenerate (5 a day) for a wk and a day now and nothing. Gonna run this for a month. I have been super worried that i fucked myself after the triple stack and then this morning i woke up with a morning wood and we had sex! I was able to get an erection and keep an erection. Man am i so relieved! I know its tmi but i am pumped! Thanks to everyone so far that has helped me with your recommendations. Not out of the woods yet and gonna keep going with clomid and hcgenerate, but man is it working. I did a month of clomid before this as you know and nothing worked. Now with ag-guys clomid and hcgenerate i know feel like i know i have a penis:) and i feel my libido coming back again, etc. And this is only a wk and as of a couple days ago it was still not back. So i am progressing. Thanks!
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Awesome! Both ag-guys.com and n2bm.com produce quality products. There was no doubt about that in my mind. You just needed to be a little bit more patient. Recovery won't happen over night.

Make sure to keep HCGenerate and clomid on hand for all your future cycles!
 
Oh for sure. i am not stopping until 4 wks. Gonna follow through. Then next time i do an 8wk cycle, i am gonna start HCGenerate sooner and clomid right after. thanks
 
How long after a SARMS cycle and PCT would you wait to run another one? Could i start when my PCT is done?
 
Rbj said:
How long after a SARMS cycle and PCT would you wait to run another one? Could i start when my PCT is done?
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Finish your cycle of SARMS
Immediately after start your 4 week mini PCT
Take 2-3 weeks off
You can then start your next cycle of SARMS or next steroid cycle
 
2-3 weeks after PCT are just fine between SARMs cycles - less would be too little, and no more is needed.
 
@muskate and @mikesnow...I have noticed some strength loss, weights feel heavier etc. Will that bounce back as I recover?
 
Rbj said:
@muskate and @mikesnow...I have noticed some strength loss, weights feel heavier etc. Will that bounce back as I recover?
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Somewhat. You will never be as strong off cycle as you were on cycle, it's inevitable. But after a good mini PCT you should be about 80-90% of what you were on cycle.

Running cycles with mini PCTs is kind of like a 2 steps forward, 1 step back approach. Does that make sense?
 
Yes that makes sense. One more question, after pct gonna do gw and s4, should I notice an Inc or Dec in libido when on?
 
Rbj said:
Yes that makes sense. One more question, after pct gonna do gw and s4, should I notice an Inc or Dec in libido when on?
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These two compounds are non-hormonal, so there should be no considerable changes in libido. Being S4 a bit androgenic the libido may raise a bit, but I would not expect too much. If you want to have your libido dialed in all the time, try using HCGenerate - it is a great natural supplement that will raise natty test, increase libido without any side effects at all. I really like this product, as it makes a difference, but at the same time it feels great to use natural supplements.
 
Rbj said:
@muskate and @mikesnow...I have noticed some strength loss, weights feel heavier etc. Will that bounce back as I recover?
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that's absolutely normal man... You don't have the juice flowing through you anymore of course you aren't going to feel as great but just accept that and keep working hard and eating right, that's the best thing you can do
 
Booooo:). I have been on pct for 2wks now, 2 more wks to go. Def been struggling with energy and the weights still. Hoping it gets a little better in the next 2 wks.
 
Rbj said:
Booooo:). I have been on pct for 2wks now, 2 more wks to go. Def been struggling with energy and the weights still. Hoping it gets a little better in the next 2 wks.
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brother give it time...usually a good pct takes 5-6 weeks minimum....
 
Its been almost 4 wks on this PCT and let me tell you, its been hell! I have done a lot of research on clomid and i am that 1% that is getting all the sides from cloimid. I cant wait to come off it! At the beginning my libido came back but as many have stated my lidibo has been non existent while using clomid. Clomid killed it! Now that i am coming off, should i expect it to return soon? thanks!
 
Rbj said:
Its been almost 4 wks on this PCT and let me tell you, its been hell! I have done a lot of research on clomid and i am that 1% that is getting all the sides from cloimid. I cant wait to come off it! At the beginning my libido came back but as many have stated my lidibo has been non existent while using clomid. Clomid killed it! Now that i am coming off, should i expect it to return soon? thanks!
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bro takes time to get libido back...usually up to 6 weeks...
 
@gearhead, anything I can take, besides proviron to help it come back sooner? Should I add a low dose osta maybe or just let it be?
 
I mean at this point after doing my PCT, i can't even get an erection and I have zero libido! Is it just time and coming off the clomid etc is what i need? still taking the HCgenerate.
 
apologize, just keep doing research and thinking out loud. I have read that clomid can aromatize. Do you think that happened to me since i have gotten so many sides? if so, do you rec adding an AI 12.5mg EOD? OR once again, now that the PCT is done just give it time. thanks again!
 
Rbj said:
apologize, just keep doing research and thinking out loud. I have read that clomid can aromatize. Do you think that happened to me since i have gotten so many sides? if so, do you rec adding an AI 12.5mg EOD? OR once again, now that the PCT is done just give it time. thanks again!
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You need to get blood work done. You can't rely on symptoms to try and diagnose your problems as each person is effected differently. I suspect that your natural testosterone levels are severely suppressed and you are going to need TRT.

When you have been completely off everything - all steroids, SARMS, SERMS etc. for 3 weeks - get a full blood panel done and post the results.
 
But i have read that clomid can kill libido and that it should bounce back after some time?

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And i didn't do any steroids. I just did an 8wk SARM cycle. Prior i was fine, had a raging libido, etc. I just can't beleive that an 8wk SARM cycle would suppress my natural test that much.
 
Rbj said:
But i have read that clomid can kill libido and that it should bounce back after some time?

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And i didn't do any steroids. I just did an 8wk SARM cycle. Prior i was fine, had a raging libido, etc. I just can't beleive that an 8wk SARM cycle would suppress my natural test that much.
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That would be way to weird - never heard of anyone having such serious problems with libido after just a SARMs cycle. As mentioned above - do a blood work, because on these precise figures will surely tell what is happenning. You should never make assumptions based on subjective feelings etc, because there is much more to it, and sometimes the psychologycal factor may change the perception of the things happening. Therefore - do a proper blood work, and you will be able to get the proper treatment without any guesses.
 
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