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If you handle the sides cool, I'm doing my first tren run after 3 years of test then Deca, glad I took my time, but I'm loving tren.
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If you handle the sides cool, I'm doing my first tren run after 3 years of test then Deca, glad I took my time, but I'm loving tren.
goodone91
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Way to jump in the deep end with tren.. But that dose isn't too bad and like 258 said, if your handling the sides and have Ai's on hand etc then you should be fine.. Just track your progress so you can change it up next cycle..
Tren= Life haha...
Hey guys, going to a GP. Today to ask to get some blood work done.
Was going to ask for
FBC - full blood count
E/LFT - electrolytes/liver function test (includes kidneys)
testosterone free + total
E2 - estradiol
fasted lipids - LDL + HDL + trigs + ratio
LH/FSH - Leutenizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormones
That sound like what I need?
My plan is to walk in with confidence, say I plan on using testosterone and would like to be as safe as possible about it and that I would appreciate if he could help me with getting some blood work
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Was going to ask for
FBC - full blood count
E/LFT - electrolytes/liver function test (includes kidneys)
testosterone free + total
E2 - estradiol
fasted lipids - LDL + HDL + trigs + ratio
LH/FSH - Leutenizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormones
That sound like what I need?
My plan is to walk in with confidence, say I plan on using testosterone and would like to be as safe as possible about it and that I would appreciate if he could help me with getting some blood work
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Looks good to me. I usually ask for a testosterone, liver and cholesterol test and it usually gives me everything I want. The E2 you will definitely have to ask for though as my doc was totally like "You're not a woman, you don't need it" until AFTER I'd had my test done and he was like "So you're obviously taking testosterone." I kinda felt like saying "Duh, why do you think I asked for E2" but that was probably my fault. But yeah, I guess if you tell them up front shouldn't be a problem.
foreverbulk
SCAMMER
hahah yeah, casually driving to gym after wiggle tells me he's getting shredded, next thing you know i pass hungry jacks & then the little Buddhas in the drive through hahaha
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I've never seen this doctor before as it's just a walk up bulk billing clinic so hopefully he is alright.
I'm not to fussed in being up front but I'm not really sure what to do if he says he won't do the blood test.
I'll probably just get up and walk out.
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Well, from what I know about you from this board and the other, you're relatively young so I don't know if that will come into it but I have had no issues at 36 asking for my test levels to be tested. Again, at a bulk bill type clinic. To be honest, I think they mostly care about getting their Medicare fee and that's about it, there's nothing irresponsible about it.
But yeah, if for whatever reason they refuse then I wouldn't bother arguing about it, just go find a different place.
You might want to say "I've just begun" rather then "I will begin" that way they already kinda know you're not messing about and you can probably save getting talked out of it blah blah blah.
But yeah, if for whatever reason they refuse then I wouldn't bother arguing about it, just go find a different place.
You might want to say "I've just begun" rather then "I will begin" that way they already kinda know you're not messing about and you can probably save getting talked out of it blah blah blah.
Yeah man I'll see how it goes.
Thanks
Off now will report back in an hour or so!
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Ok so finished with the doctor.
He was pretty cool about it all.
Just wanted to know why I wanted to use steroids and I just said for personal reasons.
He agreed with me when I stated that I wanted to get blood work done so I could be as safe as possible about it all.
He was happy to agree to see me whenever I needed the referral for blood work again.
Good times
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He was pretty cool about it all.
Just wanted to know why I wanted to use steroids and I just said for personal reasons.
He agreed with me when I stated that I wanted to get blood work done so I could be as safe as possible about it all.
He was happy to agree to see me whenever I needed the referral for blood work again.
Good times
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Ok so finished with the doctor.
He was pretty cool about it all.
Just wanted to know why I wanted to use steroids and I just said for personal reasons.
He agreed with me when I stated that I wanted to get blood work done so I could be as safe as possible about it all.
He was happy to agree to see me whenever I needed the referral for blood work again.
Good times
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So you gonna wait for results for first pin? From memory you're due to start or no?
Welcome mate !
My first cycle was tren ace and test
My first cycle was tren ace and test
tren = real life cruise =dream.
who is this personality when I cruise? fuck.
I started with test, tren, and dabbled with dbol. but I had caber from the beginning and arimidex. never even run deca/npp properly. started npp once and after 2days said fuck it and switched to tren lol.
who is this personality when I cruise? fuck.
I started with test, tren, and dabbled with dbol. but I had caber from the beginning and arimidex. never even run deca/npp properly. started npp once and after 2days said fuck it and switched to tren lol.
Haven't started yet man and will definitely wait for my bloods just to ensure everything is fine before I start.
Was planning on end of the month but might bring it forward a week or two.
Will get my bloods done probably end of this week so it's all done
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stevesnick
New Member
sup bros..happy new year. hope everyone enjoys some great cycles from quality sources!!
all we ask!
all we ask!
rairai
Proficient Brother
Been off almost 2 months, looking forward to coming back home & jumping back on
Pct is shit & won't bother with it again!
OceanusLabs
Approved Source
You may have had fake PCT? Then again, if you are off for only two months at a time, it may not be too useful for you anyways.
goodone91
New member
Dependent on your cycle you wouldn't bounce back into full swing with your FSH/LH glands properly after 2 months (dependent on cycle length and compounds used).
And PCT is essential and realistically gold unless you plan on staying on full time and just cruising and blasting away for the rest of your life..?
Stay safe
Dependent on your cycle you wouldn't bounce back into full swing with your FSH/LH glands properly after 2 months (dependent on cycle length and compounds used).
And PCT is essential and realistically gold unless you plan on staying on full time and just cruising and blasting away for the rest of your life..?
Stay safe
I really believe that you shouldn't do steroids unless ur prepared to be on forever. because chances are that's what will happen. psychologically they are powerful. and after a few pct ur natural test will get worse and worse.
either that or do a few cycles and quit and sware for life that steroids fucked you up.
I got started much younger than most would recommend and acknowledged the risk of having to be on TRT for life, haven't regretted jumping on at all
foreverbulk
SCAMMER
Tren makes me very angry boy haha
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OceanusLabs
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There are alot of bodybuilders that were on AAS for pre-contest only (look at arnie in the offseason - skinny) that obviously bounced back. I think the problem now is that people dont use, they abuse.
AddarInc
New Member
I'm going to agree with you here on the abuse part. The "get big or die trying" ... Personally think long term. We are our own people though. Each to their own.
Psychologically gear does take its hold... After experiencing a state of elevated anabolic level and how well it makes us feel.
Whether you cycle or blast and cruise. It will be a life commitment to the gym and the hobby that we all enjoy.
It's when you forget the fundamentals of dieting and rely on steroids to sustain high levels of muscle and lower body fat that it becomes an addiction. We are all addicted to some drug in one way or another....
Whether you cycle or blast and cruise. It will be a life commitment to the gym and the hobby that we all enjoy.
It's when you forget the fundamentals of dieting and rely on steroids to sustain high levels of muscle and lower body fat that it becomes an addiction. We are all addicted to some drug in one way or another....
exactly, its when we become dependant then its an issue, ive felt the feeling myself all to often. "maybe if I throw some mast in .. " or "maybe 150mg EOD instead of 100mg of Tren to get me a little leaner" are always there In the back of my mind but I swore not to be one of those, and to my own surprise ive stayed faithful to it, hopefully everyone else here is playing it safe too
AddarInc
New Member
Tell you what I really dislike? Decieptful behaviour. Misleading. When evidence is there of the complete opposite.
I'm grateful and very humble with support shown of recent days. Got some info that may be "nice to know" info. If you know something, say something. Always treat others the way you wish to be treated. Great community, but there is a small grey area I wish is rectified sooner rather than later.
Again, stay safe!
I'm grateful and very humble with support shown of recent days. Got some info that may be "nice to know" info. If you know something, say something. Always treat others the way you wish to be treated. Great community, but there is a small grey area I wish is rectified sooner rather than later.
Again, stay safe!
there has been, but have a feeling something more may be at work ? either way hope fully none of the boys off the board here fall victim too it, always disheartening when it comes to this kind of thing
Sounds pretty heavy and way over my head.
Hopefully everyone is alright!
I love the community here
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Smurfed
Retired VIP
I hope all is resolved whatever it is brother.
Here have a snickers? Your not you when your hungry lmao, I crack myself up....
AddarInc
New Member
Communication is a key part with how we talk and treat each other. Everything, is much better .. Character was shown. And that I can respect.
Whilst I'm at it, throwing it out there, this young fella BjornB... He's a great example for me because he's not just on here, but the communication elsewhere is great.. He's going places ..
Level headed, mature. Hard working and always willing to help. This board, especially our section is fantastic. We as whole maintain that. Big things to come in 2016 for us, as a group.
Watching you Smurf. Offer me a snickers. I understood what that meant lol. Why you always stir me up .. Snow White coming for you
Whilst I'm at it, throwing it out there, this young fella BjornB... He's a great example for me because he's not just on here, but the communication elsewhere is great.. He's going places ..
Level headed, mature. Hard working and always willing to help. This board, especially our section is fantastic. We as whole maintain that. Big things to come in 2016 for us, as a group.
Watching you Smurf. Offer me a snickers. I understood what that meant lol. Why you always stir me up .. Snow White coming for you
juicywiggle31
SCAMMER
Tren back flowing through the body ahh how I've missed you 
Hope everyone is doing well and gaining well. Great community and still going strong.
May the gains be with you
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Hope everyone is doing well and gaining well. Great community and still going strong.
May the gains be with you
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Shouldn't matter too much as long as you fast properly.
OceanusLabs
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There is some research showing that lipids can be affected by stress which isn't helped by a lack of sleep, otherwise you should be fine
@OceanusLabs
I've actual will agree with you. Stress can effect so many factors and that being one of them.
On another note, I'm glad you took on board a new approach with this forum. I'm sure you'll enjoy the ppl and the stay here.
Happy to hear your knowledge on areas.
All the best for 2016 for you
I've actual will agree with you. Stress can effect so many factors and that being one of them.
On another note, I'm glad you took on board a new approach with this forum. I'm sure you'll enjoy the ppl and the stay here.
Happy to hear your knowledge on areas.
All the best for 2016 for you
OceanusLabs
Approved Source
Thanks Plat, you too.
Hey guys just a quick question. It's ok to pin test and tren in the same syringe yeah? May be a bit of a dumb question, but as I said I started my first cycle probably a little misguided and with not enough knowledge. But I've started, so just wanna make sure I'm getting some decent advice now and doing things best way possible
Cheers
Cheers
yes you can.
im starting to think I should never dose less than a gram test minimum. some brands I'd guess are half dosed. so if I want a gram I'd need to shoot 2g+a week. so fuck 750 Im doing a gram, which is prob closer to 500.
My gym was surprisingly empty this week. Helps to be there at 5.30am, and I think the resolution crowd doesn't do gym with bad weather...
Danman1979
New Member
Good morning fellas.
I just found this forum by chance last night while Googling.
I just signed up this morning.
Seems like an awesome forum with a lot of great advice which is exactly what I've been looking for.
I have been a member of another Aussie forum for a few years, I wont mention the name of the site in case its against forum rules in here.
I've not had much luck finding legitimate sources especially on the other site because they only have 1 maybe 2 maximum sources that only really deal with long term veteran members which is extremely frustrating because a lot of the time they don't even respond to inquiries.
I just turned 36 years old recently. I've been contemplating running a cycle for years but due to work commitments I was always working interstate so it never really allowed me the opportunity until now.
Work commitments have now changed for me which is now going to allow me to run my first ever cycle, better late than never I guess.
I've been training/lifting for about 8 years and am in reasonable condition. Approx 10%BF and train 6 days a week.
I join this forum now in the hope that I can find a legit, quality source I can buy off for my first cycle which at this stage I'm looking to run Test Enanthate 500mg PW for 12 weeks.
I also hope to get AI's/SERMS and HCG.
I want to cover all basis for worse case scenarios like Gyno etc.
Thanks for your time and consideration and look forward to any feedback.
I just found this forum by chance last night while Googling.
I just signed up this morning.
Seems like an awesome forum with a lot of great advice which is exactly what I've been looking for.
I have been a member of another Aussie forum for a few years, I wont mention the name of the site in case its against forum rules in here.
I've not had much luck finding legitimate sources especially on the other site because they only have 1 maybe 2 maximum sources that only really deal with long term veteran members which is extremely frustrating because a lot of the time they don't even respond to inquiries.
I just turned 36 years old recently. I've been contemplating running a cycle for years but due to work commitments I was always working interstate so it never really allowed me the opportunity until now.
Work commitments have now changed for me which is now going to allow me to run my first ever cycle, better late than never I guess.
I've been training/lifting for about 8 years and am in reasonable condition. Approx 10%BF and train 6 days a week.
I join this forum now in the hope that I can find a legit, quality source I can buy off for my first cycle which at this stage I'm looking to run Test Enanthate 500mg PW for 12 weeks.
I also hope to get AI's/SERMS and HCG.
I want to cover all basis for worse case scenarios like Gyno etc.
Thanks for your time and consideration and look forward to any feedback.
AddarInc
New Member
Great introduction. You have stumbled across a great community. Unfortunate with your luck.
First of all, plenty of guys willing to assist with advise, talk and so on. Being new to this, be aware of rules that need to be followed, and chat about.
Look forward to having another person on this section & hope you remain active.
Danman1979
New Member
Hi there Bro
Thanks very much for the speedy response, this site really is amazing.
I'll be sure to download that app later on today when I get some more spare time, I can't respond to emails yet because I don't have enough points.
In the interim I'll check out and read that link.
Look forward to the journey ahead, and getting more involved in here and contributing.
Thanks again mate and will download that app and spend some time reading the other links.
Danman1979
New Member
Thanks very much brother
I will download that app later today when I get more spare time and will check out the links also.
I can't respond to emails sent to me at the moment due to not having enough points accumulated.
I look forward to the journey ahead and will definitely be on here a lot.
Thanks mate I'll no doubt be talking to you guys soon.
I will download that app later today when I get more spare time and will check out the links also.
I can't respond to emails sent to me at the moment due to not having enough points accumulated.
I look forward to the journey ahead and will definitely be on here a lot.
Thanks mate I'll no doubt be talking to you guys soon.
AddarInc
New Member
Thanks very much brother
I will download that app later today when I get more spare time and will check out the links also.
I can't respond to emails sent to me at the moment due to not having enough points accumulated.
I look forward to the journey ahead and will definitely be on here a lot.
Thanks mate I'll no doubt be talking to you guys soon.
That's great. And if you're active enough you'll get there, all takes time. The app is the handiest tool. Literally everyone has it.
No silly pics, only the snickers man does that.
just out of curiosity, how many of u guys get your Test from your doc?
my doc is awesome, she gives me as much as I want without any lectures
I'm on 1gm a week and I still have a cupboard full!!!
legit Test just makes it so much easier instead of guessing what mg the ugl stuff is
my doc is awesome, she gives me as much as I want without any lectures
I'm on 1gm a week and I still have a cupboard full!!!
legit Test just makes it so much easier instead of guessing what mg the ugl stuff is
G1LL1CK
New member
My previous doctor wasn't too bad, he's since left the clinic & I've got no hope with the current one..
But the old doc put me on a basic level of trt - didn't make me get bloods done to re-assess but every fortnight I'd rock up back in & he'd give us a shot of sus250 no questions asked..
You'd barely even need this forum by the sounds of it lol
I dont know anybody that gets from the doctor to be honesnt, most people that use are young and inpatient about muscpe growth and will be laughed at if they pop the question at the docs, i think its only the middle aged men that get it
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foreverbulk
SCAMMER
G1LL1CK
New member
Does she give you samples or a prescription to take to the chemist?
If so how much are you paying for it?
Mine was crazy expensive, sometimes my doc wouldn't have any samples left so he'd just give us a one off prescription.. ended up paying $40 for 1ml.. fucking joke!
she gives me scripts for it so I take it to the chemist - I know him that well now he even gives me extra without the script
When I first got it - 3 or 4 years ago it was 4 Sus, I think it was $300 for 10ml
but now I get Primoteston and it's only $100 10ml - it comes in boxes of 3ml for $30
idk how any of you afford Prescribed test, a mate of mine gets its at $60 a 1ml Amp, could not fork out that much consitantly, Decent UGL will do the job for me
That being said my doc will happily prescribe it and GH but as far as money goes, id rather stick to Quality and spoken for Generics with GH and reputable sources/labs for Oils.
I envy you lads forking out the big dollars for pharma
That being said my doc will happily prescribe it and GH but as far as money goes, id rather stick to Quality and spoken for Generics with GH and reputable sources/labs for Oils.
I envy you lads forking out the big dollars for pharma
Box of Primoteston (3 x 1ml of pre-filled test e syringes) from chemist is $28.... Not sure why you are paying $60 a ml
$60 a ml??? that cant b right, even Sus isn't that expensive
just what he told me, found it hard to believe he was paying the equivalent of 600 a 10ml, but id never talked to anyone who'd used prescribed stuf before him, the 30-40 per mill you lads mentioned sounded more realistic
If you find out
how be sure to let me know bro! Aha
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foreverbulk
SCAMMER
Tough, wouldn't mind adding primo into my cycle
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OceanusLabs
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Other than the Tren 'family' and the halo's theres not much reason any steroids should differ dramatically in price
sustanon is like 33 bucks per ml. and primo is cheaper.
reandron 1000mg slow release every 10 weeks is what most endos prescribe and I think it's the affordable option.
even if u got hgh prescribed it would still be super expensive.
hopefully it's cheap in 30 years when I really need it.
reandron 1000mg slow release every 10 weeks is what most endos prescribe and I think it's the affordable option.
even if u got hgh prescribed it would still be super expensive.
hopefully it's cheap in 30 years when I really need it.
gonelifting
New member
hey boys!
just started my blast last night
been waiting a long time, feels good to be back, buckling down this year
5"10' 82 kg starting, estimate 12% BF
will be doing
syntha labs test e 750mg week 1-20
alpha anabolics and galactic labs deca 750mg week 1-16
50mg dbol/50mg anadrol ED for four weeks in the next week or two
20mg superdrol ED weeks 15-18
running TUDCA 500mg ED along with milk thistle whilst on orals
aromasin for AI
will get bloods to check on liver values along with estro and test.
should be interesting! will keep updating every couple weeks!
cheers for some legends on this site for helping out especially juicy wiggle
just started my blast last night
been waiting a long time, feels good to be back, buckling down this year
5"10' 82 kg starting, estimate 12% BF
will be doing
syntha labs test e 750mg week 1-20
alpha anabolics and galactic labs deca 750mg week 1-16
50mg dbol/50mg anadrol ED for four weeks in the next week or two
20mg superdrol ED weeks 15-18
running TUDCA 500mg ED along with milk thistle whilst on orals
aromasin for AI
will get bloods to check on liver values along with estro and test.
should be interesting! will keep updating every couple weeks!
cheers for some legends on this site for helping out especially juicy wiggle
Let us know how Alpha and Galactic go mate
hey guys.. I'm really in need of a hookup.. with all my research I'm unsure of which local supplier to use for sustanon 250..
OceanusLabs
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Hi Hulk, there are approved sources on this board. I'm sure you will receive some PM's also. Good luck
hey mate thanks for the reply!
personally id like to get a consistent supplier as I recently had but sadly no longer.. id appreciate some Pm's I'm in Melbourne.. and I'm a little put off by some of the websites using bitcoin and what not =|
personally id like to get a consistent supplier as I recently had but sadly no longer.. id appreciate some Pm's I'm in Melbourne.. and I'm a little put off by some of the websites using bitcoin and what not =|
That's a lot of test and Deca and orals.
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Go with test E, so much easier
Danman1979
New Member
Hey bro I downloaded that app.
How do I find you guys on there, user names etc?
Cheers
- Dan
OceanusLabs
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Yes bitcoin is a definite roadblock for people not tech-savvy but it is really easy to set up and use. If you need help with it, just ask here
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If you want you can add me: OceanusLabs , I would say most people on here are using the app
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Ah sorry, the 2nd post was in reply to Danman
Danman1979
New Member
No worries mate thanks very much adding you now.
foreverbulk
SCAMMER
4 days into my diet... Body's already looking different, getting very nice shape, weights going down, hopefully it's just fat I'm burning lol
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If your getting enough protein then you won't loose your muscle. Amazing how quick you can loose bf when your diet is in check
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arrrtz
New member
Sup fellas, got back from holiday today and jumped on the scale. 7kg added in 2 weeks! Feeling fat as fuk!
Actually looking forward to going back to work to get back into my routine!!
Anyone tried low dose dnp at 200mcg before bed while running ECA during the day??
I'm on my feet all day at work and cant afford to get too lethargic.
Actually looking forward to going back to work to get back into my routine!!
Anyone tried low dose dnp at 200mcg before bed while running ECA during the day??
I'm on my feet all day at work and cant afford to get too lethargic.
Lyle McDonald recently released a patch for his Stubborn fat loss book that goes into detail a stack similar to what you've said and whilst using other things.
Might be worth looking up/ reading into it
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splunk
New member
B
I just ran 200 mcg for several days. Before bed was no good for me, messed with my head and couldn't sleep, found it better in the morning.
I just ran 200 mcg for several days. Before bed was no good for me, messed with my head and couldn't sleep, found it better in the morning.
splunk
New member
Yeah mentioned it earlier in the thread with link, main thing is the use of beta blockers to activate the ANP pathway.
The most extreme stack is DNP, Clen, T3 & long acting beta blockers.
Please anyone reading this refrain from running off and doing this, this is an advanced stack with serious sides.
I knew I read someone post it recently! Must have been subconsciously in my mind still
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OceanusLabs
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I have used DNP once in my life, and that will be the only time. I had some serious sides which I never had with clen. GL though
arrrtz
New member
splunk
New member
For me the physical sides were fine, although I could feel it, was perfectly manageable.
Lethargy was overcome with coffee for the most part, heavy breathing was the worst physical side for me especially if taking before bed.
The big issue for me was the mental load, made me stress a lot. Might be more sensitive then most, or might be because I felt really guilty taking this stuff as a parent knowing how serious it can be, after 5 or 6 days I had to stop because it was fucking the with me mentally to much.
Just remember DNP builds up in your system over several days, the exact half life is unknown but estimates put it at 36 hours.
If haven't taken it before stick to 200 mcg ED or even EOD for at least a week before even thinking about increasing the dose. This hot weather is also another reason to keep dose low. I'm also an advocate for lower doses over longer period then blasting this stuff, also means you can still function as a normal human being.
At 200 mcg ED I lost just on 4 kg in less then a week.
So I've just started a sarms cycle. Coz I got a really cheap deal but I think it'll be the first and last time I mess around with sarms and I will just stick with gear.
Doing lgd 10mg ed, mk677 25mg ed, gw 20mg ed, rad140 20mg ed and s4 50mg ed (Split dose). Probably.run 8-12 weeks depending on how long the bottles last.
Hopefully I can trim down a bit after xmas and gain a bit of strength.
Anone else had much experience with sarms?
Doing lgd 10mg ed, mk677 25mg ed, gw 20mg ed, rad140 20mg ed and s4 50mg ed (Split dose). Probably.run 8-12 weeks depending on how long the bottles last.
Hopefully I can trim down a bit after xmas and gain a bit of strength.
Anone else had much experience with sarms?
foreverbulk
SCAMMER
splunk
New member
This is a link to meta analysis I posted on another forum, interesting read covert toxicity.
Should take note of minimum recorded lethal dose.
2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP): A Weight Loss Agent with Significant Acute Toxicity and Risk of Death
Should take note of minimum recorded lethal dose.
2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP): A Weight Loss Agent with Significant Acute Toxicity and Risk of Death
OceanusLabs
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Some forums ban any talk of DNP - that's how dangerous it can be. Let us know your results.
Think DNP is dosed in mg not mcg.
Honestly if I was running it, I'd do a bare minimum. Leave the crazy dosages for the mass monsters and the insane.
Better than stims like clen and even ephedrine if you have heart concerns, but still no mild drug.
If there's something you need to treat with respect, it's DNP. Don't be -that guy- who figures the fat isn't dropping fast enough after 2 days and ups their dosage. It takes time to kick in and you bloat.
For reference, I haven't used it so take what I say with a grain of salt. I have, however, covered it in organic chemistry lectures at uni. It's a fascinating drug (like all PEDs, really).
Honestly if I was running it, I'd do a bare minimum. Leave the crazy dosages for the mass monsters and the insane.
Better than stims like clen and even ephedrine if you have heart concerns, but still no mild drug.
If there's something you need to treat with respect, it's DNP. Don't be -that guy- who figures the fat isn't dropping fast enough after 2 days and ups their dosage. It takes time to kick in and you bloat.
For reference, I haven't used it so take what I say with a grain of salt. I have, however, covered it in organic chemistry lectures at uni. It's a fascinating drug (like all PEDs, really).
splunk
New member
DNP has some muscle sparing qualities, you are less likely to lose muscle using DNP then normal dieting, same rules apply re keeping adequate protein and trading stimulus.
Another reason to use low dose means you can still train properly.
An interesting point, not sure if people have heard of is set point theory, really simply the theory means when your hypocaloric (cutting) your hormonally winding up an elastic band, your body wants to get back to where it was, so after you lose weight you are likely to end up rebounding often putting in more weight then when you started in the process.
I believe it could be possible (no proof, just anecdotal) that DNP bypasses this process as DNP not hormonal in function and works similarly to the way the body uses brown fat in babies. I don't think your body has any idea hormonally that your losing weight and may work at to lower your set point.
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