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I have finally decided myself to start a steroid cycle. I have used SARMS in the past, and liked them a lot, but now I want something bigger, and deca seems like the killer for size. What dosage would you recommend for a first time? Got arimidex on hand just in case.
Vallieflag
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You shouldn't really be taking deca on a first cycle. You should do 12 weeks of testosterone and 4 weeks of tbol for your first cycle. Honestly, you wouldn't even need the tbol. Assuming your training and diet were on point, you would blow up on test only.
Please reconsider deca on your first cycle. Whats your training history? How old are you? Whats your current bodyfat percentage?
Please reconsider deca on your first cycle. Whats your training history? How old are you? Whats your current bodyfat percentage?
Even with a history of SARMS, I would say listen to Vallieflag; the general consensus (with good reasoning) is to run a test only first cycle but you could include a mild oral if you REALLY feel you must. You could definitely run the test upwards of 500mg for something "bigger" as you say, but some guys see good results at even half that for the first time around
Here is a really good video for you to watch where I explain how to properly run a first steroid cycle -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqBLCSaKsW4
I agree 100% with what has already been said. A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle. Being new to steroids, your body will hyper respond and you don't need a very aggressive cycle. It's very similar to an 18 year old having their first drink. A single drink really hits them because they have never drank before. However, a more experienced drinker would need much more alcohol to get the same effect.
This sport is all about progression. It's a marathon. You want to start slowly and work your way up. For a second cycle you can do testosterone + an oral as a kick start. For a third cycle you can do testosterone + an anabolic + an oral as a kick start, etc. If you start with a very aggressive cycle right off the bat, where will you go from there when you plateau? By starting slow you leave 'all your aces in the hole' and will be able to make progressive gains for a long time.
Here's what I recommend:
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- DONT just have your AI on hand. Start the AI on day 1 of your cycle and run it throughout your entire cycle and PCT. The whole point of the AI is to prevent estrogen related side effects before the occur. Once the side effects have occurred it's already too late.
After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
I agree 100% with what has already been said. A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle. Being new to steroids, your body will hyper respond and you don't need a very aggressive cycle. It's very similar to an 18 year old having their first drink. A single drink really hits them because they have never drank before. However, a more experienced drinker would need much more alcohol to get the same effect.
This sport is all about progression. It's a marathon. You want to start slowly and work your way up. For a second cycle you can do testosterone + an oral as a kick start. For a third cycle you can do testosterone + an anabolic + an oral as a kick start, etc. If you start with a very aggressive cycle right off the bat, where will you go from there when you plateau? By starting slow you leave 'all your aces in the hole' and will be able to make progressive gains for a long time.
Here's what I recommend:
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- DONT just have your AI on hand. Start the AI on day 1 of your cycle and run it throughout your entire cycle and PCT. The whole point of the AI is to prevent estrogen related side effects before the occur. Once the side effects have occurred it's already too late.
After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
the problem with using deca alone is that it is too mild and lacks androgenic effects.
guys will tell you to use testosterone for a first cycle alone because it is both anabolic and androgenic so you will get the best of both worlds
guys will tell you to use testosterone for a first cycle alone because it is both anabolic and androgenic so you will get the best of both worlds
I agree with test only. If diet and training are on point you can gain a ton of mass.
I would run test at 500mg per week. Go with a long ester like E or C so you only have to inject twice per week. Run it for 12 weeks. You will want to run aromasin from day 1 of your cycle at 10mg EOD. When your 12 weeks is done just start the Perfect PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
I would run test at 500mg per week. Go with a long ester like E or C so you only have to inject twice per week. Run it for 12 weeks. You will want to run aromasin from day 1 of your cycle at 10mg EOD. When your 12 weeks is done just start the Perfect PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Jay Scott
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Or maybe without even tbol for the first timer, so he could at least know whats happening when he is taking testosterone alone
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