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The only problem is where are the pictures. I can see why he called him out. E left because he didn’t wanna start drama.
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Anyways if you wanna know more.
Here it is. I talked to him about sarms a while back. Basically he was pushing other things on people. He is a good guy when talking to him but trusting him not really.
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What’s so controversial? I’ve sent and received pm’s about other source companies many a time. That message is not far removed from E’s original post regarding the lab testing of irc, PP, and purerawz. As far as not mentioning it to the mods, well he basically answered that in the next line
Chemically Enhanced
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E didn't hide a fact he was recommending other companies through PM, what he said is far from pushing and scamming. So what's the problem?Anyways if you wanna know more.
Here it is. I talked to him about sarms a while back. Basically he was pushing other things on people. He is a good guy when talking to him but trusting him not really.
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Oh I see the problem. The problem is, it was a "PERSONAL MESSAGE" and you made it public, so who's a bad guy?
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Satan62
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Anyways if you wanna know more.
Here it is. I talked to him about sarms a while back. Basically he was pushing other things on people. He is a good guy when talking to him but trusting him not really.
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Did he twist your are and force you to buy them? No, your choice and your loss. You are buying products from UGL’s and expect people to cover your ass. It’s buyer beware. Grow the fuck up already. I know plenty of people that have ordered from them with zero problems, but you seem to think E owes you something. He doesn’t, so fucking get over it!
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On that basis I have, when I've been asked (and it's been mentioned I live in the UK on the forum) recommended a site whose products I've used here. And that means we ALL have. But 'pushed' no. Become untrustworthy - no and so on.
Bam Dice - seriously?? C'mon. Have you ever had a PM asking you for info? Replied and passed on info? Does that mean you 'pushed' etc. Of course not. Shame fella
Bam Dice - seriously?? C'mon. Have you ever had a PM asking you for info? Replied and passed on info? Does that mean you 'pushed' etc. Of course not. Shame fella
Satan62
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Anyways if you wanna know more.
Here it is. I talked to him about sarms a while back. Basically he was pushing other things on people. He is a good guy when talking to him but trusting him not really.
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Publicly sharing a PM is a no no. WTF? Are you mentally handicapped?
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Satan62
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xBSer and 800lbGorilla and bam_dice sound like all the same guy, along with a certain mod of this forum. Time to flush out the liars who are trying to push their own sponsor company. One certain in here needs to get punted, along with his 3-4 fake names.
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These guys are unbelievable......
Posting PMs....Jesus go away. Also why is anything blacked out? I'm assuming that's your question to E? Why are you striking it out in black?
You obviously didnt want to buy from Sarms1. You asked for another source, E gave you recommendations that he has used with success that are not sponsors so rightfully asked you to not just go and post about it......and you post about it.
I mean seriously just go away......
Posting PMs....Jesus go away. Also why is anything blacked out? I'm assuming that's your question to E? Why are you striking it out in black?
You obviously didnt want to buy from Sarms1. You asked for another source, E gave you recommendations that he has used with success that are not sponsors so rightfully asked you to not just go and post about it......and you post about it.
I mean seriously just go away......
Yeah. And I didn't trust him prior to these idiotic scandals.
To be clear before I go and grab some lunch: we do support our sponsors because, obviously, they allow the forum to exist. No sponsors and we wouldn't be having this back and forth here. That makes Evo no different from 99% of any forum - never mind those dedicated to PED's. For example not only do they pay for hosting fees but they also pay for the app used to make and record the videos and podcasts mods put online.
It's also been made clear (again for obvious reasons) that YES other sites sell products our sponsors compete with but while we don't encourage (and again why would we) too many of those sorts of posts equally we don't edit etc such posts. For example we DO lock the blatant Napsgear promos but no one denies that Naps etc sell product.
So if, as is being inferred, 'one mod' 'pushes' a site well so what? Every regular posting member here has and will have PM's asking for help. E3028 did no more than any of us have done (heck by not doing it on the forum and via PM isn't he being respectful of the sponsors?) if he said 'I used product X and I sourced it from company Y'?
It's worthy of note that WPA was going to do an investigation but ended up just letting Gorilla post his BS. My guess is he, like us, didn't see anything of note in Gorillas accusations.
And, thus, all we still have is two members who made an order and only one of those posted his bloods and a copy of an order. And that test only shows high CK levels. If that's as good as it gets I think we're done here aren't we?? By all means leave it open in case, by some act of god, more evidence appears (don't hold your breathes lol) and bring back E3028 asap.
Onwards
It's also been made clear (again for obvious reasons) that YES other sites sell products our sponsors compete with but while we don't encourage (and again why would we) too many of those sorts of posts equally we don't edit etc such posts. For example we DO lock the blatant Napsgear promos but no one denies that Naps etc sell product.
So if, as is being inferred, 'one mod' 'pushes' a site well so what? Every regular posting member here has and will have PM's asking for help. E3028 did no more than any of us have done (heck by not doing it on the forum and via PM isn't he being respectful of the sponsors?) if he said 'I used product X and I sourced it from company Y'?
It's worthy of note that WPA was going to do an investigation but ended up just letting Gorilla post his BS. My guess is he, like us, didn't see anything of note in Gorillas accusations.
And, thus, all we still have is two members who made an order and only one of those posted his bloods and a copy of an order. And that test only shows high CK levels. If that's as good as it gets I think we're done here aren't we?? By all means leave it open in case, by some act of god, more evidence appears (don't hold your breathes lol) and bring back E3028 asap.
Onwards
Chemically Enhanced
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Good post Mobster.
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Gruntwerkz
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With ya mobster
Gruntwerkz
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Also of note, E is not coming back. He’s pretty sure he knows what’s going on, and a few other of us have caught on too obviously.
I’ve been in contact with him via email, so if any of you would like to contact him just shoot me a PM and I’ll send ya his email (he’s okay with it, I checked).
I’ve been in contact with him via email, so if any of you would like to contact him just shoot me a PM and I’ll send ya his email (he’s okay with it, I checked).
gashred777
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I totally get that he’s pissed.
That’s said, don’t really get the whole leaving for good thing. Here is the way I think about it, if some fuckery is going on, even if it was a mod, who gives a fuck. As long as you are still interacting with the people that you have had good interactions with on here, them fuck it. To me, it’s not that serious. After all, this is a forum and there will always be shit going on. I like E and I will hit you up for his email, but seems like an emotionally charged reaction. Just my 2 cents.
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I get it. I completely lost the plot on a forum once (the one we had for my company of all places) and I've been banned, if only for a short time, a few times ha ha. But, as far as I'm concerned, I'd like to see him back.
Hollywood305
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I agree...hes a good dude...its time to get over it and move on and come back to evo...
I for 1 will tell all y'all right fucking now if I get the same results from PP as I get from sarms1 I'll rep PP on here all day...why? Because they 75% cheaper...NOW if they end up being horse shit I'll expose em and rep Sarms1...totally unbiased opinion and I'll post labs too
Satan62
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Satan62
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Yes, onwards. And now can we please close this thread? The two posters who made the accusations against E also need a warning or a ban. I just want to see this drama stopped.
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Gruntwerkz
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I see so bullying me and threatening me is alright. Victims should be heard, all victims. I am a victim of provenpeptides and their scamming ways. They scammed me and now you bully me
They cannot bully you via this forum, do you see a banner here? They aren’t affiliated with evo.
The people here are arguing with you not bullying you, and this is because you’re saying you have all this evidence but then produce nothing.
Then you continue to say things like I’m bullied or I did pos evidence, when in fact you’ve posted nothing.
Chemically Enhanced
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Cry me a river.I see so bullying me and threatening me is alright. Victims should be heard, all victims. I am a victim of provenpeptides and their scamming ways. They scammed me and now you bully me
Unless you post some solid evidence, you will be known as a liar until then.
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Satan62
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Yeah, awm, I'm sitting here is southern California watching the snowflakes.
Satan62
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Ha ha ha, it’s all drama when there is two fake users claiming they were ripped off and now bullied. Pure entertainment!
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Gruntwerkz
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Mind you they’re crying on a forum that has nothing to do with proven peptides, no affiliation, just a few members who use them. Even better, the few members who use them have no issues.
Satan62
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So true. Anyone I have spoken to seems quite happy with them, and only 3 linked users crying the same bullshit evidence less claim. Someone is going a bit too far in trying to disgrace a company and/or individuals on this forum.
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Gruntwerkz
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It’s crystal clear that it’s a complete attempt to disgrace the company, however they made the story so far fetched by claiming they had serious evidence when they didn’t that it became too obvious. At that point it’s more then a negative review, you’re making a serious claim and say you have proof then you have no proof.
So now anyone who followed this can blatantly see its all bullshit.
Whereas a vague bad review of them would of done more damage, they could of even said they felt extremely sick after they took them. That would of got them much farther then the story about the govt testing the SARMS and all that crazy shit.
Next time you wanna bash a company stick to a basic bad review, it’ll work better.
Thinking that you are being "bullied" by that which is nothing more than characters within a computer monitor is what being a snowflake is all about.
gashred777
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Love the “snowflake” reference, Eddie Money! Very true in this instance though.
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I hate to barrow anything from the political right, but, yes, the word snowflake is wholly appropriate in this case.
Satan62
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Ha ha ha, when I was kid if you weren’t bullied you hadn’t lived!
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Hollywood305
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Trump trump trump!!!
Chemically Enhanced
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Okay. But that was at least upfront and personal, whereas this cyber "bullying" that our resident snowflakes are sniveling about is anything but upfront and personal - it's utterly innocuous characters on their goddamn monitors! Sad, really.
Satan62
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MAGA 2020.
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OK CE, I know you are in my home province, so we gonna bring trump in here and dump that lady boy trudeau? Bahahahaha
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Gruntwerkz
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Let’s clarify no one bullied him lol, he’s a complete ninny. If this is his idea of bullying then i don’t know where he grew up or what rock he crawled from.
Satan62
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lol, it’s awesome that those goods claim bullying when they have been posting lies about others!
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Satan62
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Not only has no one bullied him, and this goes to my original point, it is impossible to be bullied by black-and-white characters that appear within one's computer monitor.
So, in actuality, all of this crap transcends "ninny hood."
Satan62
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Satan62
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I'd take Trump over Trudeau any time.
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Me too, and I’ll even throw Notley in as part of the trade!
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Chemically Enhanced
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Hahahah.
Hey American brothers, what do you say you trade your Trump in for our Trudeau?
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Hey American brothers, what do you say you trade your Trump in for our Trudeau?
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i had to google who the fuck notley was because who gives a fuck about alberta politics. and good gosh she is hot for a 50 something chick
i would bang the 40 year old version of this woman in a heart beat all night.. hawt lady
Gruntwerkz
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i had to google who the fuck notley was because who gives a fuck about alberta politics. and good gosh she is hot for a 50 something chick
i would bang the 40 year old version of this woman in a heart beat all night.. hawt lady
Agreed, not too shabby at all!!!
Anyways if you wanna know more.
Here it is. I talked to him about sarms a while back. Basically he was pushing other things on people. He is a good guy when talking to him but trusting him not really.
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brother...this against the rules of evo....complete violation of TOS here one evo...he KNEW he shouldn't promote and was told not to sell via the PM system....E32038 broke the rules...clearly and with evidence....no further...
...any harassment of members exposing scammers will lead to suspensions going forward....<<<read that carefully
.......everyone wait evo brothers and sisters....a LOT more coming...scammers getting exposed....
I'd take Trump over Trudeau any time.
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Well, when it comes to the likes of the treatment of First Nations Peoples and, say, the utter insanity of tar sands development, there isn't all that much difference between the two. But at least Trudeau is intelligent, well-read, urbane and thus not an embarrassment.
Good evening.
Hollywood305
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Fuck no!!!!! I'm on the Trump train baby!!
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Trudeau uses proven peptides
Anyways if you wanna know more.
Here it is. I talked to him about sarms a while back. Basically he was pushing other things on people. He is a good guy when talking to him but trusting him not really.
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E32038 BUSTED!!!!
Satan62
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i had to google who the fuck notley was because who gives a fuck about alberta politics. and good gosh she is hot for a 50 something chick
i would bang the 40 year old version of this woman in a heart beat all night.. hawt lady
There is a lot of makeup on that wrinkly old socialist bag. You should google the Alberta health minister and you’ll see why society has obesity issues.
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Satan62
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Prove it now gearhead. [YOU ARE NOW SUSPENDED FOR VIOLATION OF TOS] I TOLD YOU TO STOP HARASSING MEMBERS
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Alberta is like US's Texas. All other provinces are Alberta's bitches and in the end they don't matter.
brother...you prove it....for being an asshole and swearing at me for no reason...you're gone...
....for those of you who are wondering...satan62 was told to stop harassing members multiple times...and sent PMs...but he refused to stop swearing, harrassing and attacking members...
WE WILL NOT TOLERATE bullying of evo brothers and sisters....we MUST believe victims of scams....
Chemically Enhanced
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By exposing you mean their wining with BIG FAT ZERO for a proof???
What if someone starts wining saying SARMS1 scammed them and showed some random order number from them as a proof, would you believe them? I don't think so. So until they SHOW THE PROOF, they're liars! End of story.
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WE MUST NOT believe them unless they show proof!
Gruntwerkz
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Well here comes the ban hammer, knew this would be soon.
I think the thread should just be closed, we understand it’s against the rules to discuss sources via PM but you have mods here who suggest sources via PM who aren’t sponsored here, and also nearly everyone does it. E was not selling via PM, only suggested his source. As for people screen shoting PMs really? Unless it’s something serious why would you do that?
Never once did E suggest anyone send him money and the PM from E says he’d share a source, that’s it. It still stands that gorilla has no evidence.
But I’ll refrain from any harassment just sad to see it turned this route.
I think the thread should just be closed, we understand it’s against the rules to discuss sources via PM but you have mods here who suggest sources via PM who aren’t sponsored here, and also nearly everyone does it. E was not selling via PM, only suggested his source. As for people screen shoting PMs really? Unless it’s something serious why would you do that?
Never once did E suggest anyone send him money and the PM from E says he’d share a source, that’s it. It still stands that gorilla has no evidence.
But I’ll refrain from any harassment just sad to see it turned this route.
gearhead said:
You’ve got nothing and you know it. I am calling you out on this con game you are running. There are no bloods provided and you are using fake profiles to eliminate free speech which is every members right. The other mods have also asked for proof which hasn’t been provided. You are a fraud and should me removed from the site for being a traitor to every brother on the site.
brother....we dont ban or censor on evo...thats a fact...we only suspend for bullying and harassing...thats a fact...
brother...incorrect... sending any promotions via the PM system is a bannable offence...E32038 knew this and thats why he was hiding it...he knew he would be banned for abusing the PM system and the forum...
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-tolerance-rules-(you-will-banned)-27427.html
brother....you have yet to see all evidence...trust me...there is a lot more coming out soon....
bro im glad you made a 2nd profile...you know you aint banned, you just suspended...making fake 2nd profiles and harassing and abusing evo members and staff will lead to lifetime ban....
...brother...if you not involved like you claim...buzz off and relax...let the scammers be exposed....
Gruntwerkz
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Exactly, any thread I’ve seen started that was bashing a sponsor has been closed and deleted.
So back to basics - is it possible proven peptides scammed gorilla? Yes of course it is, this is the internet and it’s the risk of buying such things. However a basic negative review would of been fine.
This thread only took the route it did because of the claims of huge evidence that no one actually had, like blood work outside CK levels and mass spec testing to show M1T and Kratom.
So to be clear no ones protecting proven peptides, were trying to protect the system of properly exposing scams or bunk/dangerous products. This would apply to any source, as CE said what if someone bashed SARMS1 this way and only had a mere order number?
We demanded the proof in order to validate the claim as we would from any source, if were told “I have huge amounts of substantial evidence” then you can’t produce it of course we’re going to call bullshit.
This also applies to how folks stuck up for E, all it took is one post from gorilla saying E is a scammer to get accusations rolling, and then apparently a PM from dice talking about sources was the proof? If that’s what it takes to be labeled a scam artist here then that’s not good, because tomorrow could hit and with that process WPA himself could be a scammer! Or you gearhead, or Steve etc.
If we blatantly and openly accept claims and information based on evidence that isn’t provided then what justification are we doing in this online system?
So again this is so far beyond proven peptides, this is about actually being able to back up a claim.
At least this is how I see it, I mean it I got on here in 2 days and said I got hepatitis C from PSL test and I had labs to prove it and that it was mass spec tested to prove it contained said virus anyone here would be like okay fuck let’s see all the evidence, I’d seriously hope no one would believe such claims without some proof.
Maybe I’m wrong I dunno.
brother...you obviously make valid points....this thread has gotten out of control....but to be fair this aint the fault of 800...instead of believing victims...a minority of our evo brothers attacked victims and blamed them....they chose to bully the victim instead of believing....
...all victims of scams should be believed...period...it's wrong to destroy someone for exposing scammers...im sure we agree on that...
....in this thread...the level of proof has increased post by post....seems a few members wanted proof of order....then they got proof of order...they wanted blood work...blood work exposed...not good enough...e32830 exposed selling proven peptides when he claims he got nothing to do with them....not good enough....you can't ever say anyone a scam with this stupid formula....where the rules are changing and the bar is raised by a handful of members 2-3....the rules change as more evidence is provided of the scam lol...its crazy....
....all evo brothers and sister know i love them...and i believe in open dialogue...but we shouldn't' harass and bully victims of scams....period....victims should be believed....
Well, geared, unsuspend me and lets see all the evidence. Provide the proof and if you have definitive proof including the proper blood, then I won't say a word about it. But if it goes on, fellow brothers deserve free reign in here! Challenge accepted???
brother...all the evidence is here in this thread...tired of this stupid conversation....the suspension is 24 hours automatic system...come back in 24 hours and hit me up...ill recheck its cleared...
....aint no challenge brother...i just want all evo brothers and sisters to be believed...victims of scams like provenpeptides should be believed...not harassed and bullied ....
Gruntwerkz
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Listen brother I got you loud and clear trust me, and I understand your angle as a mod, etc I really do.
I also agree that scammers should be exposed, when we know for sure it’s a scam. Not 200 posts back and forth to shift and find out if it was really a scam. So we agree that scammers of all types fucking suck, I also agree that bullying and harassment aren’t necessary.
However with all respect with how we expose a scammer it should be better, you said we kept changing the rules on him. I followed every post the whole way, no one technically changed any rules or questions. His blood work was denied by members because the labs he provided were not the labs he claimed to have done to show he was poisoned. That’s like me saying something messed my e2 all up but then I post a pic of high hematocrit and say okay here’s an abnormal lab. He was heckled because he did not provide a single piece of evidence to substantiate what he claimed, like increased estrogen, or that the SARMS were mass spec tested and came back for Kratom and M1T. That’s all anyone asked for, was evidence pertaining to what he said. An order number as well as high CK levels certainly don’t validate the high e2 and other claims.
That’s where the issue arose and where I feel like it was handled wrongly because I know I’m not and I don’t think anyone else is trying to protect proven peptides, I stem back to saying we’re trying to protect the system.
With stuff like this I can hop on here and say whatever I want about anyone or any source and as long as I have vague evidence it’ll be accepted.
All any of us wanted was a sliver of evidence that related to his condition.
It sucks that E broke the PM rules, you got him on there since it’s in writing but I still don’t feel like that’s a very good link to prove he owns PP. he’s suggested using more then just PP.
So I agree no scammers no harassers, I was just hoping to see something more substantial for all these claims to be taking so seriously.
However I’m just a normal member, no mod or anything so I could be all wrong.
Chemically Enhanced
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1. There's no evidence in this tread. If you say otherwise you're blind. Period.
2. Nobody should be believed without evidence. Period.
Chemically Enhanced
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Exactly! Fuck PP, it's not about them anymore, it stopped being about them many pages back. It's about the system, about how it works.
Without a properly working system anyone can claim to be a victim of something and gearhead is saying they are to be believed? Hell nah'! That's not how it works.
brother...you're a good bro...honest and straight up...very honorable....im glad to have an open conversation...
.....i back this all the way....victims of scams should be believed...we aint even hearing out the victims....we should listen, hear and believe all victims of scams....
...bro...i believe all victims should be heard and treated fairly and believed...not bullied and harassed...
brother...you didnt change the rules...you a good bro...others did....
...he went to the emergency room brother...thats serious shit...no matter how we treat this...he ordered from provenpeptides because e32830 pushed the source...then ended up in the emergency room...this cool?...aint cool
bro i dont care about proven peptides...i care that they scam evo brothers and sisters and use a VIP on evo to scam the system....multiple people came forward about this scam....
bro...i dont know if he owns proven peptides...dont care...he was spamming, breaking rules, breaking TOS...and he was sent PMs even by ME not to source and break rules and use PM system to source....after that he kept doing it...breaking rules...and telling members to hide the fact that he broke the rules...
...if E32038 was a straight up brother...WHY didn't he contact me? say he's using PM system and wants to be clean...yet he chose to spam and abuse our forum....even after being told NOT to...he broke the rules...
....on top of it he was pushing selling and supporting a now known scammer provenpeptides ...
brother...i truly believe victims should be heard and believed...
....all scam victims should be heard and believed...it should be up to the source and their pushers to prove themselves....
.....bro....you know you agree we should NOT bully or harass victims like been done here...
VICTIMS should be heard and believed...
i believe victims....
brother...i believe all victims of scams should be heard and believed...we aint supposed to bully and harass evo brothers and sisters who expose scammers...
...i aint support no one but evo family....
Hollywood305
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Here's what happened...
Sarms1 pays a good chunk of money to have advertisements on here (or is owned by a mod) and no 1 that I've seen on evo besides Steve has bought or used sarms1. Yet a lot of ppl talk about PP, purerawz etc...
Sarms1 threatened to pull the banner due to.lack of sales and when money talks bullshit walks...they build a straw man named E and burned him down now we are all supposed to piss ourselves with fear that PP is for shit and big brother is watching...its more than obvious that 800 and gearhead are the same person...or know each other, married ect...
The shear fact that 800s false claims that PP gave him gyno were never addressed and the feds talked to him and took his vials is a dead giveaway that there are alterier motives at play...even another fucking Mod, Mobster said that there is zero evidence...in the end this just makes Evo look fucking stupid I wouldn't be shocked if other BB forums have posted screen shots of this thread exposing how lame and premeditated this whole thing was to try and save sponsor
Sarms1 pays a good chunk of money to have advertisements on here (or is owned by a mod) and no 1 that I've seen on evo besides Steve has bought or used sarms1. Yet a lot of ppl talk about PP, purerawz etc...
Sarms1 threatened to pull the banner due to.lack of sales and when money talks bullshit walks...they build a straw man named E and burned him down now we are all supposed to piss ourselves with fear that PP is for shit and big brother is watching...its more than obvious that 800 and gearhead are the same person...or know each other, married ect...
The shear fact that 800s false claims that PP gave him gyno were never addressed and the feds talked to him and took his vials is a dead giveaway that there are alterier motives at play...even another fucking Mod, Mobster said that there is zero evidence...in the end this just makes Evo look fucking stupid I wouldn't be shocked if other BB forums have posted screen shots of this thread exposing how lame and premeditated this whole thing was to try and save sponsor
bro s1 is a clear sponsor here.not secret...they do pay for banners...but dont change the argument...you making a strawman argument bro...thats called WHAT IFism...you just doing what iF....
....bro what evidence you got against 800? nothing...he provided order proof...emergency room visit proof....and e32038 was selling proven peptides behind everyones back and hiding from mods and admins...selling and breaking rules...abusing evolutionary...not cool
really brother...you really think e32038 did the right thing>....abusing the forum...not approved...breaking rules...hurting sponsors...hurting the forum....spamming members and pushing his proven peptides on evo brothers...after he was told not to advertise like that...he knew it...behind our back he was selling and pushing proven peptides against all rules...against all TOS...he knews whats up and he was wrong...
thats why he says "Don't tell Trevor or the Mods"...really shit? really E3? ...you think this is cool? you play like you my boy and my bro...but you stab a knife behind my back...selling shit breaking rules...it's a shit thing to do...
...and brother hollywood be careful making unsubstantiated claims...since you have set a standard I will now HOLD you to your standard...you HAVE to show proof or you're a liar...right? thats the new standard right?
...you made this statement:
...you made a completely false claim brother...you saying we own a sponsor who left the forum for a long time? lol...well now by your standard you HAVE to show proof....
....evo brothers and sisters...evo family... thanks for the supporting PMs...i am going to hold hollywood305 to the standard he set....
.......hollywood305...you have 2 days to prove what you said ...show emails, company records...ownership records...you seem to know it all right? ...so show proof of what you said...
clock is ticking...
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No, he purchases all of his AAS, ancillaries, boner pills and peptides from Napsgear.org and Promedications.cc
So there!
I dont agree that it was a scam by Sarms1. I have been using Sarms1 from day 1. Id never buy Proven Peptides to be honest.
What I still don't get is we have a couple stories out there. One where the guy had 500% higher levels of estrogen due to the compounds that the government seized and tested and said were prohormones (which wouldnt cause estrogen levels to rise) and then something else in it. He has an order number without anything else attached to it.
Above we have another order number (or could be the same) and some blood work showing high creatine levels? My buddy had rhabdomyolysis from working out way too hard when first getting back into the gym. His creatine levels were through the roof and has ER paperwork to prove it. If I post those and an order number from Sarms1 does that constitute proof?
Again not trying to stir the pot. If E was told not to do something and was ignoring it I get it. I still dont believe a word these guys are saying but hey PP isnt a sponsor here and I will never use them anyways so it is what it is....
What I still don't get is we have a couple stories out there. One where the guy had 500% higher levels of estrogen due to the compounds that the government seized and tested and said were prohormones (which wouldnt cause estrogen levels to rise) and then something else in it. He has an order number without anything else attached to it.
Above we have another order number (or could be the same) and some blood work showing high creatine levels? My buddy had rhabdomyolysis from working out way too hard when first getting back into the gym. His creatine levels were through the roof and has ER paperwork to prove it. If I post those and an order number from Sarms1 does that constitute proof?
Again not trying to stir the pot. If E was told not to do something and was ignoring it I get it. I still dont believe a word these guys are saying but hey PP isnt a sponsor here and I will never use them anyways so it is what it is....
guys i think everyone made their point.
gearhead is just doing his job. he has the hardest job on here dealing with all this drama, banning spammers, etc. when admin tells him to do something he has to do it. at this point admin has had enough and i don't want to see anyone banned so can you guys please do me a favor and just stop. again i DO NOT want to see any of you guys banned, i've built a strong relationship with a lot of you and i don't want to see anyone out so why can't we just drop it and move on?
gearhead is just doing his job. he has the hardest job on here dealing with all this drama, banning spammers, etc. when admin tells him to do something he has to do it. at this point admin has had enough and i don't want to see anyone banned so can you guys please do me a favor and just stop. again i DO NOT want to see any of you guys banned, i've built a strong relationship with a lot of you and i don't want to see anyone out so why can't we just drop it and move on?
Hollywood305
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I'll do it right now how do you post pics on here?
Hollywood305
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I'm not concerned...
Furthermore the owner of Proven Peptides is Josh Fulton he also owns Absorb Health...lives in NC...has a big family and does not work out or at least look like he doesn't...i have his phone number and his email if anyone wants to contact him personally...you can easily find him on Facebook
brother steve...u straight up...good evo brother...i do my best...trying to get to the bottom of the situation here....
brother...proof please...where is the proof?...documents etc? ...these are just words...you have any actual proof this is the owner?
Hollywood305
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Bro just Google Josh Fulton...its all right there online
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The irony of this whole investigation is providing free press to a company you don't approve ppls using...I never woulda even heard of PP until someone on here claimed they scammed em...
Maybe I missed something but 800 has only posted an image of the order. Did he ever post his blood work or "gov't lab testing" results?
Seems very biased right now where 800's posts (also words) is called evidence and Hollywood's post stating facts is "JUST WORDS" but not evidence.
Seems very biased right now where 800's posts (also words) is called evidence and Hollywood's post stating facts is "JUST WORDS" but not evidence.
brother...i only care that evo brothers and sisters aint scammed....anyone else is their problem....
...if someone wants to get prohormones instead of sarms...they are welcome to use provenpeptides...i aint holding no one by arm...aint taking their wallet...free country...they do what they want....
.......bro #1 is to keep our community safe...safe from scammers and inside moles who lie to everyone and backstab the forum....
He did post an image of labs done and the only high value was his creatine levels. At that point he never addressed his massive E levels he originally said the paperwork mentioned.
bro...this guy went to the emergency room...that probably aint the best...no matter how it's sliced...he had 5 times the levels of creatine in the hospital emergency room test....
....let all evo brothers and sisters see these scammers for what they are....be careful and be safe brothers...
Hey I'm just helping someone by answering their question and making it clear so he knows why the labs were not sufficient for everyone who asked to see them, thats all.
brother...labs were sufficient to put 800 in the hospital emergency room...good enough...lets cut the bs brother...you relax and hit up more threads...good to have you in the evo family brother...you a good bro...move on....
Thank you. I simply didn't get the chance to read each post after first few pages.
brother...be careful and be safe....i back all evo brothers...stick around you'll see how cool evo is...this aint regular lol....
Ya like i said I just helped Sam out by answering his question. I don't have any cards in the situation besides whats laid out so already plan to move on
very relaxed waiting for my own set of labs to come back
Chemically Enhanced
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What's laid out isn't proving anything. This whole tread is full of empty allegations.
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It proved something, but probably not most important thing
Ya like i said I just helped Sam out by answering his question. I don't have any cards in the situation besides whats laid out so already plan to move on
brother....good good...post stuff up and log it...i wanna see your log...link me...
bro correct...the thread proved that 800 was put into the emergency room at the hospital because of the poisoned sarms he was sold by provenpeptides....<<<thats his claim...not mine....he showed order proof...he showed emergency room labs...nothing else i can say....up to evo brothers and sisters to decide for themselves if they want the risk...
...as a leading moderator in the community...i highly suggest NOT using provenpeptides...i believe there is enough bad information about them that makes them hella suspect in my view....its my view that i would never use proven peptides and would never recommend the company based on the evidence ive seen come out...ive been here over 5 years so i aint a newb...i put my personal stamp on this...wouldn't use them...wouldn't recommend them...wouldn't touch them with a 20 foot pole...why risk your life or your health? you drinking some chemicals...why even have the slightest doubt of the chemicals you are putting in your body? ...what if it is poison? what if it is some prohormones?...i dont know...but why couldnt it be with people going to the emergency room...think about it...
brothers and sisters of evolutionary...i aint forcing no one to do anything....i let you decide...i spoke my truth...and im not hiding it...open about it...wallet is in your hands, you choose...
