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[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Mhhhh

I know you guys are joking around but I'm not against sugar like @Eddie Haskell
if you need sugar to help training I would swap the candy for honey, works better and has a more stable GI sugar spike holding the training pump more @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

How was the workout? I take it this was as intra as usual?

Na i took before. It was good man. More reps, strengths been going up nicely.

 

[Flyingandrei]

I know you guys are joking around but I'm not against sugar like @Eddie Haskell
if you need sugar to help training I would swap the candy for honey, works better and has a more stable GI sugar spike holding the training pump more @Flyingandrei

I might actually give that a go on plain rice cakes . Its not really the candy i like. I just have it because for me it makes my pumps better and since its fast carbs i get more energy.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I might actually give that a go on plain rice cakes . Its not really the candy i like. I just have it because for me it makes my pumps better and since its fast carbs i get more energy.

Honey works, rice cakes work but I found rice cakes too high GI, if you want it to last the whole 1-2 hour session honey is likely the easiest and cleanest bro

 

[hypogaeum]

Also What would you tell sam sulek? Eat clean foods only, listen to you because youve been here 10 years?

The dude literally flexible diets and is probably jacked than must bro dieters i know on gear.

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[Flyingandrei]

Honey works, rice cakes work but I found rice cakes too high GI, if you want it to last the whole 1-2 hour session honey is likely the easiest and cleanest bro

Clean or unclean i dont mind lol. I don't get crashes only and i tried it the o

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Been doing this way before sulek lol as a natty. Layne norton was the one who made flexible dieting popular.

Also kraft cheese clean ok

 

[Flyingandrei]

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Ill just leave this here lol

You make your own mind up

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[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Clean or unclean i dont mind lol. I don't get crashes only and i tried it the o

honey meaning you'll get actual better energy too bro

 

[Flyingandrei]

I think i might quit. Flexible dieting is helping me too much and added 10kg to my barbell skull crushers

Don't know how when ive dropped 100 calories

 

[LevButlerov]

I think i might quit. Flexible dieting is helping me too much and added 10kg to my barbell skull crushers

Don't know how when ive dropped 100 calories

you're looking big though

quit what exactly?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

@Flyingandrei its going on 2 months did you get shredded like you planned bro?

 

[Flyingandrei]

@Flyingandrei its going on 2 months did you get shredded like you planned bro?

Yes im still here cutting bro. Just came off doing smp hair procedure cant train for 10 days then get the second session done in 2 weeks and cant train 10 days again

Upped test to 225mg feel great.

Dropping cals another 100 soon.

last pic i took

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Yes im still here cutting bro. Just came off doing smp hair procedure cant train for 10 days then get the second session done in 2 weeks and cant train 10 days again

Upped test to 225mg feel great.

Dropping cals another 100 soon.

last pic i took

how much you lose bro? i remember last time you said you were going all out

 

[Flyingandrei]

how much you lose bro? i remember last time you said you were

how much you lose bro? i remember last time you said you were going all out

Quite abit. Ill update you in the next 16 weeks. . Thanks for checking in, you are one of the real ones thst dont stir up shit

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Quite abit. Ill update you in the next 16 weeks. . Thanks for checking in, you are one of the real ones thst dont stir up shit

all good bro update now been like 6 weeks where you at? im interested so is the EVO family

 

[hypogaeum]

How is progress, @Flyingandrei?

 

[LevButlerov]

How is progress, @Flyingandrei?

I dont think @Flyingandrei got the results he wanted.

 

[hypogaeum]

I dont think @Flyingandrei got the results he wanted.

I'm thinking the same. Happy to be proved wrong though!

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm thinking the same. Happy to be proved wrong though!

I could be wrong I think he's going to not come back with the results he said he had.

 

[Flyingandrei]

I could be wrong I think he's going to not come back with the results he said he had.

You think wrong brother lol

 

[LevButlerov]

You think wrong brother lol

Share the pics you said brother lol

 

[Flyingandrei]

so

How is progress, @Flyingandrei?

Hey brother im still here. Just ordered my next round of blood work lastnight.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Share the pics you said brother lol

Read the commenta to Npc above. Brother.

 

[LevButlerov]

Read the commenta to Npc above. Brother.

This is months before I saw it @Flyingandrei
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-transformation-cycle-log.102133/post-1688436
Its been 3 months since you made the big claims, we are waiting to see your results.

 

[Flyingandrei]

This is months before I saw it @Flyingandrei
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-transformation-cycle-log.102133/post-1688436
Its been 3 months since you made the big claims, we are waiting to see your results.

No your stirring the pot really lol

 

[LevButlerov]

No your stirring the pot really lol

Of course, waiting to see you deliver what you promised. and to be real @hypogaeum started this.

 

[hypogaeum]

You think wrong brother lol

Money where your mouth is. Let's have a look at the progress, and not a shaky, blurry photo like you usually do.

 

[hypogaeum]

Of course, waiting to see you deliver what you promised. and to be real @hypogaeum started this.

Throw me under the bus!

But yeah, I did start it, and I want to see the progress (if there has been any it shouldn't be hard to provide us with an update).

 

[Flyingandrei]

Throw me under the bus!

But yeah, I did start it, and I want to see the progress (if there has been any it shouldn't be hard to provide us with an update).

Ok since you asked nicely. Before on the rignt now on the left. Thank you. Will update in 20 weeks again.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Money where your mouth is. Let's have a look at the progress, and not a shaky, blurry photo like you usually do.

Those are because its a video taken from screen shot lol. Show me how you cutrently
Look too.

Not how you were cut. Currently.

 

[hypogaeum]

Those are because its a video taken from screen shot lol. Show me how you cutrently
Look too.

Not how you were cut. Currently.

Just starting a workout now. Will have a pic up in the next hour, but I expect to see one from you.

None of the photos I’ve posted have been from before my log started.

 

[hypogaeum]

I just updated my log with a post workout photo.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-anavar-and-gh-recomp-log.102362/post-1719657

Now you’re up. Show us the progress you’ve made on your flexible diet

 

[Flyingandrei]

I just updated my log with a post workout photo.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-anavar-and-gh-recomp-log.102362/post-1719657

Now you’re up. Show us the progress you’ve made on your flexible diet

I did. Above.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Ok since you asked nicely. Before on the rignt now on the left. Thank you. Will update in 20 weeks again.

@hypogaeum here. I look great hey.

 

[hypogaeum]

I did. Above.

You’re a flog.

 

[Flyingandrei]

You’re a flog.

onya mate

 

[hypogaeum]

onya mate

Go have some lollies and pretend you’re making progress.

The only person that is being deceived by your lies is yourself.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Go have some lollies and pretend you’re making progress.

The only person that is being deceived by your lies is yourself.

I still have my lollies mate dont you worry

 

[hypogaeum]

I still have my lollies mate dont you worry

So you going to throw up a progress pic? Or when should we expect one?

 

[Flyingandrei]

So you going to throw up a progress pic? Or when should we expect one?

I did mate. Next update 2 years alright.

 

[Flyingandrei]

So you going to throw up a progress pic? Or when should we expect one?

Fine attached below now just leave ok! Ive eaten the food that belonged to the next 5 years

 

[LevButlerov]

Fine attached below now just leave ok! Ive eaten the food that belonged to the next 5 years

why be so negative? we are just trying to see if your diet plans are working out as you said. @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

why be so negative? we are just trying to see if your diet plans are working out as you said. @Flyingandrei

It did see

 

[LevButlerov]

It did see

Ok sure, we had expectations it wouldn't deliver as we have seen this before in our EVO family. This is why @hypogaeum was asking you for updates, not to be confrontational but rather see if your methods worked. @Flyingandrei

 

[hypogaeum]

Ok sure, we had expectations it wouldn't deliver as we have seen this before in our EVO family. This is why @hypogaeum was asking you for updates, not to be confrontational but rather see if your methods worked. @Flyingandrei

I love learning, and to be proved wrong on something like this would have been insightful. If someone can make genuine progress by following a “flexible” diet plan that only looks at calories in vs calories out, and doesn’t account for the quality or macros of those calories, I want to know about it to further my own education.

Unfortunately, it seems like it’s failed so badly that an update won’t be coming, which is what I expected, but it’s disappointing that @Flyingandrei is too proud to admit it didn’t work.

 

[Flyingandrei]

I love learning, and to be proved wrong on something like this would have been insightful. If someone can make genuine progress by following a “flexible” diet plan that only looks at calories in vs calories out, and doesn’t account for the quality or macros of those calories, I want to know about it to further my own education.

Unfortunately, it seems like it’s failed so badly that an update won’t be coming, which is what I expected, but it’s disappointing that @Flyingandrei is too proud to admit it didn’t work.

Theres been heaps lol. Did you bother to look up Layne Norton? Did you look at all his clients NATURAL and jacked and did flexible dieting?

Like i said what about Sam Su

I love learning, and to be proved wrong on something like this would have been insightful. If someone can make genuine progress by following a “flexible” diet plan that only looks at calories in vs calories out, and doesn’t account for the quality or macros of those calories, I want to know about it to further my own education.

Unfortunately, it seems like it’s failed so badly that an update won’t be coming, which is what I expected, but it’s disappointing that @Flyingandrei is too proud to admit it didn’t work.

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I love learning, and to be proved wrong on something like this would have been insightful. If someone can make genuine progress by following a “flexible” diet plan that only looks at calories in vs calories out, and doesn’t account for the quality or macros of those calories, I want to know about it to further my own education.

Unfortunately, it seems like it’s failed so badly that an update won’t be coming, which is what I expected, but it’s disappointing that @Flyingandrei is too proud to admit it didn’t work.

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I love learning, and to be proved wrong on something like this would have been insightful. If someone can make genuine progress by following a “flexible” diet plan that only looks at calories in vs calories out, and doesn’t account for the quality or macros of those calories, I want to know about it to further my own education.

Unfortunately, it seems like it’s failed so badly that an update won’t be coming, which is what I expected, but it’s disappointing that @Flyingandrei is too proud to admit it didn’t work.

Thank you for your amazing kind words. Yes i have failed i ate the food for the next 5 years.

 

[hypogaeum]

Theres been heaps lol. Did you bother to look up Layne Norton? Did you look at all his clients NATURAL and jacked and did flexible dieting?

Let’s see it from an average member of the community (you), and not someone that is a genetic outlier.

If it works so well, show us your results! Without the evidence, I’m unwilling to believe that it’s a suitable diet approach for the majority of people.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Let’s see it from an average member of the community (you), and not someone that is a genetic outlier.

If it works so well, show us your results! Without the evidence, I’m unwilling to believe that it’s a suitable diet approach for the majority of people.

It has. Im bigger than you

 

[hypogaeum]

It has. Im bigger than you

When you stop being a little bitch and provide an update, tag me, but until then I’ll not bother wasting more of my time on you.

 

[Flyingandrei]

When you stop being a little bitch and provide an update, tag me, but until then I’ll not bother wasting more of my time on you.

Aaaaaaaah their he is. Theres the man i was trying to bring out of you lol. Took me a few trys .

Yes i have updated. Unless you can get bigger than me now (attached below) i will no longer reply.

 

[LevButlerov]

I love learning, and to be proved wrong on something like this would have been insightful. If someone can make genuine progress by following a “flexible” diet plan that only looks at calories in vs calories out, and doesn’t account for the quality or macros of those calories, I want to know about it to further my own education.

Unfortunately, it seems like it’s failed so badly that an update won’t be coming, which is what I expected, but it’s disappointing that @Flyingandrei is too proud to admit it didn’t work.

I agree with you @hypogaeum, there is nothing wrong with something not working but not being able to admit it didn't work is the issue. How can he change if he doesn't know he made a mistake? @Flyingandrei we are not judging you, this is the EVO family, but we are concerned about your mental health and approach to this.

 

[Flyingandrei]

When you stop being a little bitch and provide an update, tag me, but until then I’ll not bother wasting more of my time on you.

Alright Hypo ive been told by admins i am to post here and update as its serious questions yous asked. I went and got smp done in Sydney fifo same day sessions.

I needed 2 sessions and they both were 4 weeks apart. I didnt know that when you get smp you cant Gym train due to sweating.

When i returned for the second session it was all messed up so total of 12 weeks i got robbed.

I have only just been allowed back the past 2 weeks. So i can finally get back to it. These are photos from the weekend and my first week back.

 

[hypogaeum]

What's your body weight at?

And what PEDs are you currently on?

 

[Flyingandrei]

What's your body weight at?

And what PEDs are you currently on?

Just 250 test only. Bloods going tomorow since the first time you said. I was down to 105 after first smp using fasting and cardio

Now 112 currently. Theres 1 smp session left but i dont think im gona go. Its not worth losing another 4+ weeks.

Had i known I wouldnt have bothered till like now.

This is smp Sydney

 

[hypogaeum]

Now 112 currently.

You started at 115kg four months ago. Even without the training you should be further ahead than this. A decent diet and daily walking would have you in a better spot than you currently are.

 

[Flyingandrei]

You started at 115kg four months ago. Even without the training you should be further ahead than this. A decent diet and daily walking would have you in a better spot than you currently are.

Hey at least it hasnt gone up lol. It will go down with 3 days forced jiujitsu and 4 days weight training plus ill add in cardio on top. It wasnt cause of my diet.

Interested to see my bloodwork come back lol

 

[hypogaeum]

Hey at least it hasnt gone up lol.

You think that progress over 4 months is a win? And you'll continue "flexible dieting"?

Interested to see my bloodwork come back lol

250mg/week is too high a cruise for your bodyfat percentage. I'm guessing there will be multiple numbers that are out.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Alright Hypo ive been told by admins i am to post here and update as its serious questions yous asked. I went and got smp done in Sydney fifo same day sessions.

I needed 2 sessions and they both were 4 weeks apart. I didnt know that when you get smp you cant Gym train due to sweating.

When i returned for the second session it was all messed up so total of 12 weeks i got robbed.

I have only just been allowed back the past 2 weeks. So i can finally get back to it. These are photos from the weekend and my first week back.

you look good and big bro but i do think we can talk about you modding the diet and dropping some bodyfat
or you looking to recomp up? @Flyingandrei

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Just 250 test only. Bloods going tomorow since the first time you said. I was down to 105 after first smp using fasting and cardio

Now 112 currently. Theres 1 smp session left but i dont think im gona go. Its not worth losing another 4+ weeks.

Had i known I wouldnt have bothered till like now.

This is smp Sydney

your hair looks great bro i got all my hair but i feel ya

 

[Flyingandrei]

you look good and big bro but i do think we can talk about you modding the diet and dropping some bodyfat

or you looking to recomp up? @Flyingandrei

Its hard call. Im forced to do jiujitsu as my son had trouble attending classes so i have to attend 6am classes lol.

I want to cut because im tired of being this size. On the other hand its now handy to be heavier via jiujitsu lol.

I still say cut. Its healthier on the body and then once the body fat is down i can blast and payback all the people that squashed me lol.

 

[hypogaeum]

I still say cut. Its healthier on the body and then once the body fat is down i can blast and payback all the people that squashed me lol.

Yes, you need to cut.

Drop the test back to 150mg a week, do more cardio, eat healthy and less than what you’re currently eating, ad het your body into a healthier space before you consider anything more than 150mg a week.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

you can do bjj but just do less effort bro
just for planning

you look good and big bro but i do think we can talk about you modding the diet and dropping some bodyfat

Its hard call. Im forced to do jiujitsu as my son had trouble attending classes so i have to attend 6am classes lol.

I want to cut because im tired of being this size. On the other hand its now handy to be heavier via jiujitsu lol.

I still say cut. Its healthier on the body and then once the body fat is down i can blast and payback all the people that squashed me lol.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Yes, you need to cut.

Drop the test back to 150mg a week, do more cardio, eat healthy and less than what you’re currently eating, ad het your body into a healthier space before you consider anything more than 150mg a week.

I will get bloods first and compare. I feel better on 250 then previously 200. I will admit more acne has popped up though on chest and shoulders lol.

 

[hypogaeum]

When are bloods? And how comprehensive are you going?

 

[Flyingandrei]

When are bloods? And how comprehensive are you going?

I was going to get today but my body is wrecked from jiujitsu. I purchase the bb5 one from imed

 

[hypogaeum]

I was going to get today but my body is wrecked from jiujitsu. I purchase the bb5 one from imed

Skip training today and go first thing tomorrow morning. Make sure you’re fasted.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I was going to get today but my body is wrecked from jiujitsu. I purchase the bb5 one from imed

get the bloods for sure bro
i am talking to @Flyingandrei via DM hopefully he comes back to the EVO family and updates us more

 

[Flyingandrei]

Update. New bloods done yesterday and still recovering from jiujitsu 3 days ago. Smashed the body hard like 10/10.

Will be looking at reassessing training to mould around jiujitsu days Mon/Wed/Fri. Maybe look at something like...


Monday
bjj morning/night time Chest workout

Tuesday rest

Wednesday
bjj morning /night time back workout

Thursday rest

Friday
bjj morning / night time leg workout

Saturday
Arm workout afternoon or night

Sunday Rest

 

[Flyingandrei]

will update total blood work later on. There are some numbers out for sure. Ill update later in the week so i can collage all previous bloodwork to compare it all but for now i will compare test levels.

From full natural test numbers to dbol cycle full shut down to current as of yesterday.

Thank you to everyone for any help given especially @hypogaeum who pushed me to get proper bloods etc.

 

[hypogaeum]

will update total blood work later on. There are some numbers out for sure. Ill update later in the week so i can collage all previous bloodwork to compare it all but for now i will compare test levels.

From full natural test numbers to dbol cycle full shut down to current as of yesterday.

Thank you to everyone for any help given especially @hypogaeum who pushed me to get proper bloods etc.

Previous bloodwork doesn't matter at this point. Just focus on the bloodwork that you have now.
Throw the rest of the bloodwork up. You E2 is stuffed and needs to be fixed. May as well fix the other stuff all at the same time.

Drop the test back to 150mg a week, do more cardio, eat healthy and less than what you’re currently eating, and get your body into a healthier space before you consider anything more than 150mg a week.

Pretty sure this advice will remain, though.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Previous bloodwork doesn't matter at this point. Just focus on the bloodwork that you have now.
Throw the rest of the bloodwork up. You E2 is stuffed and needs to be fixed. May as well fix the other stuff all at the same time.


Pretty sure this advice will remain, though.

I wanted to show my natural vs dbol vs test current. Ive got no moon face, no itchy nips no gyno no water retention in fingers or legs etc.

Strength had increased drastically snd recovery

I didnt feel as good on 200 but yes will collage and post other markers.

 

[hypogaeum]

I wanted to show my natural vs dbol vs test current. Ive got no moon face, no itchy nips no gyno no water retention in fingers or legs etc.

Happy for you to compare, but it's less confusing analysing the current when they're all together and there aren't other results throughout.

I'd like to address the E2, even if you feel fine. Even if you don't feel anything happening, breast tissue could be forming, SHBG will slowly start to rise (which lowers bioavailability of testosterone), water retention will be happening, it can cause emotional instability, affect libido, cause lipid issues, increase hematocrit production, etc.

What's your resting heart rate and blood pressure?

 

[LevButlerov]

will update total blood work later on. There are some numbers out for sure. Ill update later in the week so i can collage all previous bloodwork to compare it all but for now i will compare test levels.

From full natural test numbers to dbol cycle full shut down to current as of yesterday.

Thank you to everyone for any help given especially @hypogaeum who pushed me to get proper bloods etc.

Your current e2 levels are too high, add aromasin 12.5mgs eod asap with 20mgs tamoxifen ed. High estrogen can seriously damage you.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Happy for you to compare, but it's less confusing analysing the current when they're all together and there aren't other results throughout.

I'd like to address the E2, even if you feel fine. Even if you don't feel anything happening, breast tissue could be forming, SHBG will slowly start to rise (which lowers bioavailability of testosterone), water retention will be happening, it can cause emotional instability, affect libido, cause lipid issues, increase hematocrit production, etc.

What's your resting heart rate and blood pressure?

Its usually 120/80 currently at work so ill check in the a:m

 

[Flyingandrei]

Your current e2 levels are too high, add aromasin 12.5mgs eod asap with 20mgs tamoxifen ed. High estrogen can seriously damage you.

Ive only got arimidex on hand

 

[hypogaeum]

Your current e2 levels are too high, add aromasin 12.5mgs eod asap with 20mgs tamoxifen ed. High estrogen can seriously damage you.

Too aggressive for my liking.

I’d rather 6.25mg EOD. Or 12.5mg E3D. And tamoxifen if any signs of gyno. Granted, he’s holding a lot of body fat and water, so might be hard to tell on the gyno side of things, but I think throwing the kitchen sink at it so early is more than is needed.

 

[hypogaeum]

Ive only got arimidex on hand

I prefer Aromasin but you could do 0.25mg Arimidex twice a week to get onto things ASAP.

 

[LevButlerov]

Too aggressive for my liking.

I’d rather 6.25mg EOD. Or 12.5mg E3D. And tamoxifen if any signs of gyno. Granted, he’s holding a lot of body fat and water, so might be hard to tell on the gyno side of things, but I think throwing the kitchen sink at it so early is more than is needed.

I think he needs 2 weeks of EOD 12.5mgs before he goes into 6.25mgs EOD.
E2 needs to crater asap.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ive only got arimidex on hand

0.25mgs arimidex EOD start today, can you purchase tamoxifen?

 

[hypogaeum]

I think he needs 2 weeks of EOD 12.5mgs before he goes into 6.25mgs EOD.
E2 needs to crater asap.

Fair to do a higher course. With Arimidex only, maybe 0.5mg twice a week for two weeks, then drop back to 0.25mg twice a week (unless he drops test to 150mg, which would be my preference until the body fat is lower).

 

[LevButlerov]

Fair to do a higher course. With Arimidex only, maybe 0.5mg twice a week for two weeks, then drop back to 0.25mg twice a week (unless he drops test to 150mg, which would be my preference until the body fat is lower).

He should do EOD for 2 weeks for any AI, except letrozole.

I would like to see @Flyingandrei cut E2 down 2 weeks in and cruise on an AI after.

 

[hypogaeum]

0.25mgs arimidex EOD start today, can you purchase tamoxifen?

ugloz.is have 20mg tabs available. Approved Aussie vendor.
HYPO10 for 10% off

 

[hypogaeum]

He should do EOD for 2 weeks for any AI, except letrozole.

I would like to see @Flyingandrei cut E2 down 2 weeks in and cruise on an AI after.

Lower dose EOD is fine by me.

I want to see the 250 test drop to 150 though. Body fat is too high to cruise at that. There isn’t enough muscle to need that level of support, and it’s converting to estrogen because it’s too much.

 

[LevButlerov]

Lower dose EOD is fine by me.

I want to see the 250 test drop to 150 though. Body fat is too high to cruise at that. There isn’t enough muscle to need that level of support, and it’s converting to estrogen because it’s too much.

@hypogaeum I tend to agree with lower dosing on testosterone but not now, he should stay on the same dose otherwise he will crash e2.

His levels aren't that high and he will need the T when we start cutting as a team with him.

EVO family big support for @Flyingandrei

 

[hypogaeum]

@hypogaeum I tend to agree with lower dosing on testosterone but not now, he should stay on the same dose otherwise he will crash e2.

His levels aren't that high and he will need the T when we start cutting as a team with him.

EVO family big support for @Flyingandrei

Hmm I think it’s too high for where he’s at. Can retain muscle with less test and better attention to programming, cardio and diet. But I see where you’re coming from.

Let’s see the rest of the bloodwork and decide. BB5 from iMedical is very thorough and will give us a good picture to decide where to from here.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Your current e2 levels are too high, add aromasin 12.5mgs eod asap with 20mgs tamoxifen ed. High estrogen can seriously damage you.

Imagine if i took 500

ugloz.is have 20mg tabs available. Approved Aussie vendor.
HYPO10 for 10% off

yeah mate i get my test through there

 

[Flyingandrei]

Full blood work results as of yesterdays test.

Hmm I think it’s too high for where he’s at. Can retain muscle with less test and better attention to programming, cardio and diet. But I see where you’re coming from.

Let’s see the rest of the bloodwork and decide. BB5 from iMedical is very thorough and will give us a good picture to decide where to from here.

 

[Flyingandrei]

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[Flyingandrei]

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I’m heading out for a few hours so I’ll try and take a look at the bloodwork later tonight, but you need to also find yourself better resources for PED knowledge.

 

[hypogaeum]

Ok, so I've been through the bloodwork this morning.

Immediate things that jump out at me are E2 (too high), lipids (HDL and LDL are always going to be out when on gear, but I want to check supplementation is in place), inflammation (CRP is too high), liver enzymes (too high considering it was a couple of days between training and bloods) and body fat being 30%+ (major driver of E2 and inflammation).

My recommended course of action:

• Stop the "flexible dieting". I don't care what success others have with it, it's not going to help your cholesterol/ lipids, your digestion, your insulin sensitivity or your inflammation.
• Add in Omega3s, magnesium, vitamin D3 and berberine if they're not in place already. Consider NAC, TUDCA, Curcumin and CoQ10 if budget allows for it.
• 0.25mg Arimidex EOD for two weeks, then drop back to 0.25mg twice a week. I'd prefer to see Aromasin being used, but Arimidex can work.
• Do fasted cardio 3 x week (minimum). Even just 30 minutes before breakfast will help.
• Stay on 250mg test
• Retest bloods in 6-8 weeks. BB1 from iMedical.
• Think about dropping the test to 150mg/ week (after the 6-8 week blood test) and focusing on losing body fat.

 

[Flyingandrei]

I’m heading out for a few hours so I’ll try and take a look at the bloodwork later tonight, but you need to also find yourself better resources for PED knowledge.

I have john jewett j3 university i will watch those on my hard drive. Many of

Ok, so I've been through the bloodwork this morning.

Immediate things that jump out at me are E2 (too high), lipids (HDL and LDL are always going to be out when on gear, but I want to check supplementation is in place), inflammation (CRP is too high), liver enzymes (too high considering it was a couple of days between training and bloods) and body fat being 30%+ (major driver of E2 and inflammation).

My recommended course of action:

• Stop the "flexible dieting". I don't care what success others have with it, it's not going to help your cholesterol/ lipids, your digestion, your insulin sensitivity or your inflammation.
• Add in Omega3s, magnesium, vitamin D3 and berberine if they're not in place already. Consider NAC, TUDCA, Curcumin and CoQ10 if budget allows for it.
• 0.25mg Arimidex EOD for two weeks, then drop back to 0.25mg twice a week. I'd prefer to see Aromasin being used, but Arimidex can work.
• Do fasted cardio 3 x week (minimum). Even just 30 minutes before breakfast will help.
• Stay on 250mg test
• Retest bloods in 6-8 weeks. BB1 from iMedical.
• Think about dropping the test to 150mg/ week (after the 6-8 week blood test) and focusing on losing body fat.

Ok, so I've been through the bloodwork this morning.

Immediate things that jump out at me are E2 (too high), lipids (HDL and LDL are always going to be out when on gear, but I want to check supplementation is in place), inflammation (CRP is too high), liver enzymes (too high considering it was a couple of days between training and bloods) and body fat being 30%+ (major driver of E2 and inflammation).

My recommended course of action:

• Stop the "flexible dieting". I don't care what success others have with it, it's not going to help your cholesterol/ lipids, your digestion, your insulin sensitivity or your inflammation.
• Add in Omega3s, magnesium, vitamin D3 and berberine if they're not in place already. Consider NAC, TUDCA, Curcumin and CoQ10 if budget allows for it.
• 0.25mg Arimidex EOD for two weeks, then drop back to 0.25mg twice a week. I'd prefer to see Aromasin being used, but Arimidex can work.
• Do fasted cardio 3 x week (minimum). Even just 30 minutes before breakfast will help.
• Stay on 250mg test
• Retest bloods in 6-8 weeks. BB1 from iMedical.
• Think about dropping the test to 150mg/ week (after the 6-8 week blood test) and focusing on losing body fat.

Too late. I already dropped the flex diet last night and opted for clean foods.

Avocado
Protein wraps
Rice
Lean beef
Pineapple (for digestion)
Protein yogurts
Etc

I do have tamoxifen here also its Nolvadex correct? I can start arimidex and buy aromasin next
Week?

Fasted Cardio i will add in for sure not even joking. Thank you for taking the time out. Will get bloods again for sure in 6-8 weeks

 

[Flyingandrei]

@hypogaeum Arimidex is 1mg per pill so id have to cut in 4 right?

Tamxoifen i notice literally just expired lol

 

[hypogaeum]

I do have tamoxifen here also its Nolvadex correct? I can start arimidex and buy aromasin next week?

Yes, same thing.

Arimidex is 1mg per pill so id have to cut in 4 right?

Correct. 1/4 of a tablet. Just store the quarters in a ziplock bag so you don't lose them.

Tamxoifen i notice literally just expired lol

It won't be toxic or anything, but it might be less effective. You call as to whether or not you want to keep it on hand for gyno symptoms or just get new when you buy aromasin.

 

[Flyingandrei]

Yes, same thing.

Correct. 1/4 of a tablet. Just store the quarters in a ziplock bag so you don't lose them.

It won't be toxic or anything, but it might be less effective. You call as to whether or not you want to keep it on hand for gyno symptoms or just get new when you buy aromasin.

Yep ill keep on hand for sure since i am currently estrogen prone lol. Fucken lucky I did bloods! I did not think that it would be sky high.

I read somewhere the range should be 60-70. Is that correct? Cause 400+ os fucken mad cunt lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Imagine if i took 500

yeah mate i get my test through there

Full blood work results as of yesterdays test.

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@Flyingandrei clarify for us are you saying you got this testosterone level from taking 250mgs testosterone? are you sure? thats really high!

@hypogaeum Arimidex is 1mg per pill so id have to cut in 4 right?

Tamxoifen i notice literally just expired lol

Expired tamoxifen is fine up to 5 years easy, use it 20mgs ed asap.
1mg arimidex pill cut into 4, use a pill cutter.

 

[hypogaeum]

@Flyingandrei clarify for us are you saying you got this testosterone level from taking 250mgs testosterone? are you sure? thats really high!

I missed how high that was for 250mg. Maybe @Flyingandrei confirm how many mg/ml the gear you're taking is (or throw up a photo) and then confirm how many ml you take each injection?

 

[hypogaeum]

Expired tamoxifen is fine up to 5 years easy, use it 20mgs ed asap.

For two weeks only.

 

[Flyingandrei]

I missed how high that was for 250mg. Maybe @Flyingandrei confirm how many mg/ml the gear you're taking is (or throw up a photo) and then confirm how many ml you take each injection?

I have a 250 per ml vial test E.

I take 0.5 2 times a week

0.5 is 125mg correct?

 

[Flyingandrei]

I missed how high that was for 250mg. Maybe @Flyingandrei confirm how many mg/ml the gear you're taking is (or throw up a photo) and then confirm how many ml you take each injection?