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hypogaeum

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G'Day All,

This is my 1st log but have followed plenty in the past and hope to do the Aussie team proud! I’m throwing this up now, but with Christmas (and a three week trip away) I don’t plan to start logging workouts, nutrition, etc until the new year.

Current Stats:
Age: 29
Height: 187cm
Weight: 113kg
Body Fat % (estimated): 18-20% (would be glad of a second opinion here, not sure of I’m underestimating it, so will throw up some photos)
Training Experience (in years): ~10

Training:
Currently training 5 days a week, and then try ensuring active rest on the weekend (walks/ bike rides, park, etc with the kids). Not long changed to a split of back, shoulders and calves, chest, legs, arms.. I am doing 15-45 minutes of cardio 4-5 times a week, at the end of my weight sessions. Generally train in the afternoon, immediately after work.

Diet:
Daily caloric intake currently 2700/ day. Started tracking again, more from a total calories side of things, rather than the macros, but trying to keep the choices sensible and the amounts reasonable for a 40/40/20 split.

Typical Daily Eating:

Breakfast
  • Six egg whites, two whole eggs on a slice of wholegrain toast, or
  • 200g of Greek yogurt, 30g of oats and a tsp of peanut butter, or
  • Protein smoothie with a scoop of protein powder, 200ml of almond milk, one banana and a tbsp of flaxseeds
Lunch
  • Lemon herb chicken with roasted potatoes and steamed carrot, or
  • Grilled chicken with brown rice and roasted capsicum, with a low-calorie sauce, or
  • Grilled chicken in a Thai style satay sauce, with coriander rice and parsley, or
  • BBQ chicken with corn and sweet potato, brown rice and a low-calorie sauce
Pre-Workout Snack
  • Scoop of protein and a rice cake with honey or jam
Post-Workout Snack
  • Protein shake
Dinner (usually my biggest meal of the day as it's after my workout)
  • Grilled chicken with roasted or steamed vegetables and sweet potato mash, or
  • Stir-fry with lean beef or chicken and plenty of veggies, with noodles, or
  • Steak, mashed potato and steamed greens
Supplements:
CoQ10 (300mg/ day)
Omega-3 Fish Oil (3g/ day)
Telmisartan (40mg/ day)
NAC (2g/ day)
L-Carnitine (1g/ day)
MagTaur Xcell (magnesium and taurine blend)
TUDCA (500mg/ day)
Detox Pro (liver and body detoxifier)
Arimidex (0.5mg/ week)

Recent Blood Work (while on 250mg/week of Test E):
Total Testosterone: 44.3 nmol/L (reference range: 8.3–29 nmol/L)
Free Testosterone: 1145.1 pmol/L (reference range: 255.0–725.0 pmol/L)
SHBG: 26 nmol/L (reference range: 11–71 nmol/L)
AST: 32 U/L (reference range: <35 U/L)
ALT: 34 U/L (reference range: <40 U/L)
GGT: 31 U/L (reference range: <40 U/L)
E2 (Estradiol): 128 pmol/L (reference range for males <150 pmol/L) (added in Arimidex to bring this down. Target of 40-60 pmol/L)
Hemoglobin: 169 g/L (reference range: 130–180 g/L)
Hematocrit: 0.51 (reference range: 0.40–0.54)
WBC: 5.9 x10^9/L (reference range: 4.0–11.0 x10^9/L)
Platelets: 310 x10^9/L (reference range: 150–400 x10^9/L)
Creatinine: 95 umol/L (reference range: 60–110 umol/L)
eGFR: >90 mL/min/1.73m² (normal kidney function)
Sodium: 139 mmol/L (reference range: 135–145 mmol/L)
Potassium: 5.2 mmol/L (reference range: 3.6–5.4 mmol/L)
Fasting Glucose: 4.7 mmol/L (reference range: 3.4–5.4 mmol/L)

Cycle Plan:
Cycle Goals: Recomp (lean muscle gain while dropping body fat)

Compounds Planned for Use:
Test E (Bayer): 300mg/ week
Primo E (Beligas, purchased from @RhinoUGL): 300mg/ week
Tren A (Beligas, sponsored by @RhinoUGL): 150mg/ week
Anavar (Beligas, purchased from @RhinoUGL): 12.5mg pre-workout
Growth Hormone (purchased from @Livewell2024): 3IU/ day
Injection Frequency: Equal amounts, three times a week

Cycle Length: 10 weeks (maybe drop to 8 or extend to 12, depending on bloods), then back to TRT

A couple of points on where my head is at, as far as the cycle and the dosages:
  • Will consider increasing Test from week six after I get mid-cycle bloods done.
  • I've used Tren several times in the past and absolutely love it, with weekly dosages ranging from 100mg up to 600mg, so understand the sides and what it can/ will do to my bloodwork.
  • The aim is lean muscle gain, which I think Primo will tick the box nicely on, and I figure it won't negatively increase E2.
Currently on TRT+ (250mg/ week) and will be dropping back to TRT (150-200mg/ week) after I do this 8-12 week cycle. I don't expect crazy results from what many would consider a small cycle, but a kickstart into the new year and keeping the momentum going is what I'm aiming for.

Those that have seen me around on the forum would have picked up that I’m a big believer in keeping a very close eye on the bloodwork, and I try to understand as much of the theory as possible, with a willingness to keep learning. While my bloods show everything within range at the moment, there are a few things that are in the higher end, which I am aware of and actively monitoring/ treating.

Additional Notes:

I started working out when I was 16 and have done a mix of powerlifting and bodybuilding up until about three years ago. Ended up taking nearly two years off with knee and hip issues. Body fat ballooned during the time where I wasn't working out, and I went from 112kg at 12% all the way up to 130kg. Had quite bad lethargy, low motivation, low sex drive, etc and a blood test ordered by the doctor showed my test levels were down the drain (free test was at 193 pmol/L).

The doctor was reluctant to go down the path of TRT, so I went to a TRT clinic and got a second opinion with a second blood test. Free test wasn’t any better on the second blood test (204 pmol/L) and they immediately gave the green light.

Since then, have dropped to 113kg and have a good 6 months of consistency around both training and diet. Originally had a target of 105kg (based on my calculations of what my lean body mass is, I’d expect to be 12-13% body fat at this weight (provided my estimation of my body fat is correct) so will be looking to continue dropping fat while (re)building muscle. Particularly keen to keep the accountability high, as well as get real-time advice and recommendations from the crew that are killing it on here.

Happy to take thoughts/ suggestions as to how to further optimise.

Also, I am planning to post workouts with exercises and weights, food pics with macros, pics of my current look, as well as throughout the cycle, etc.

Thanks legends.
 
Looks pretty good what you've got going. I would suggest using aromasin instead arimidex as it's much better AI and suicidal so actually remove e2 whereas you may have problems with e2 rebound on arimidex

You seem to aromatise a fair bit probably similar to myself.

Possible suggestion and probably what I would do in your case is keep test at 250mg, primo a bit higher 350mg as this should help keep e2 in check

Run tren ace at a 100-150mg pw if you really like it personally I wouldn't bother with tren and go on a decent Calorie deficit and you should be able to build muscle while losing a considerable amount of fat

Anavar will be a good addition

I wouldn't go anything less than 16 weeks using enanthate esters

If you're worried about bloods and health drop the tren
 
G'Day All,

This is my 1st log but have followed plenty in the past and hope to do the Aussie team proud! I’m throwing this up now, but with Christmas (and a three week trip away) I don’t plan to start logging workouts, nutrition, etc until the new year.

Current Stats:
Age: 29
Height: 187cm
Weight: 113kg
Body Fat % (estimated): 18-20% (would be glad of a second opinion here, not sure of I’m underestimating it, so will throw up some photos)
Training Experience (in years): ~10

Training:
Currently training 5 days a week, and then try ensuring active rest on the weekend (walks/ bike rides, park, etc with the kids). Not long changed to a split of back, shoulders and calves, chest, legs, arms.. I am doing 15-45 minutes of cardio 4-5 times a week, at the end of my weight sessions. Generally train in the afternoon, immediately after work.

Diet:
Daily caloric intake currently 2700/ day. Started tracking again, more from a total calories side of things, rather than the macros, but trying to keep the choices sensible and the amounts reasonable for a 40/40/20 split.

Typical Daily Eating:

Breakfast
  • Six egg whites, two whole eggs on a slice of wholegrain toast, or
  • 200g of Greek yogurt, 30g of oats and a tsp of peanut butter, or
  • Protein smoothie with a scoop of protein powder, 200ml of almond milk, one banana and a tbsp of flaxseeds
Lunch
  • Lemon herb chicken with roasted potatoes and steamed carrot, or
  • Grilled chicken with brown rice and roasted capsicum, with a low-calorie sauce, or
  • Grilled chicken in a Thai style satay sauce, with coriander rice and parsley, or
  • BBQ chicken with corn and sweet potato, brown rice and a low-calorie sauce
Pre-Workout Snack
  • Scoop of protein and a rice cake with honey or jam
Post-Workout Snack
  • Protein shake
Dinner (usually my biggest meal of the day as it's after my workout)
  • Grilled chicken with roasted or steamed vegetables and sweet potato mash, or
  • Stir-fry with lean beef or chicken and plenty of veggies, with noodles, or
  • Steak, mashed potato and steamed greens
Supplements:
CoQ10 (300mg/ day)
Omega-3 Fish Oil (3g/ day)
Telmisartan (40mg/ day)
NAC (2g/ day)
L-Carnitine (1g/ day)
MagTaur Xcell (magnesium and taurine blend)
TUDCA (500mg/ day)
Detox Pro (liver and body detoxifier)
Arimidex (0.5mg/ week)

Recent Blood Work (while on 250mg/week of Test E):
Total Testosterone: 44.3 nmol/L (reference range: 8.3–29 nmol/L)
Free Testosterone: 1145.1 pmol/L (reference range: 255.0–725.0 pmol/L)
SHBG: 26 nmol/L (reference range: 11–71 nmol/L)
AST: 32 U/L (reference range: <35 U/L)
ALT: 34 U/L (reference range: <40 U/L)
GGT: 31 U/L (reference range: <40 U/L)
E2 (Estradiol): 128 pmol/L (reference range for males <150 pmol/L) (added in Arimidex to bring this down. Target of 40-60 pmol/L)
Hemoglobin: 169 g/L (reference range: 130–180 g/L)
Hematocrit: 0.51 (reference range: 0.40–0.54)
WBC: 5.9 x10^9/L (reference range: 4.0–11.0 x10^9/L)
Platelets: 310 x10^9/L (reference range: 150–400 x10^9/L)
Creatinine: 95 umol/L (reference range: 60–110 umol/L)
eGFR: >90 mL/min/1.73m² (normal kidney function)
Sodium: 139 mmol/L (reference range: 135–145 mmol/L)
Potassium: 5.2 mmol/L (reference range: 3.6–5.4 mmol/L)
Fasting Glucose: 4.7 mmol/L (reference range: 3.4–5.4 mmol/L)

Cycle Plan:
Cycle Goals: Recomp (lean muscle gain while dropping body fat)

Compounds Planned for Use:
Test E (Bayer): 300mg/ week
Primo E (Beligas, purchased from @RhinoUGL): 300mg/ week
Tren A (Beligas, sponsored by @RhinoUGL): 150mg/ week
Anavar (Beligas, purchased from @RhinoUGL): 12.5mg pre-workout
Growth Hormone (purchased from @Livewell2024): 3IU/ day
Injection Frequency: Equal amounts, three times a week

Cycle Length: 10 weeks (maybe drop to 8 or extend to 12, depending on bloods), then back to TRT

A couple of points on where my head is at, as far as the cycle and the dosages:
  • Will consider increasing Test from week six after I get mid-cycle bloods done.
  • I've used Tren several times in the past and absolutely love it, with weekly dosages ranging from 100mg up to 600mg, so understand the sides and what it can/ will do to my bloodwork.
  • The aim is lean muscle gain, which I think Primo will tick the box nicely on, and I figure it won't negatively increase E2.
Currently on TRT+ (250mg/ week) and will be dropping back to TRT (150-200mg/ week) after I do this 8-12 week cycle. I don't expect crazy results from what many would consider a small cycle, but a kickstart into the new year and keeping the momentum going is what I'm aiming for.

Those that have seen me around on the forum would have picked up that I’m a big believer in keeping a very close eye on the bloodwork, and I try to understand as much of the theory as possible, with a willingness to keep learning. While my bloods show everything within range at the moment, there are a few things that are in the higher end, which I am aware of and actively monitoring/ treating.

Additional Notes:

I started working out when I was 16 and have done a mix of powerlifting and bodybuilding up until about three years ago. Ended up taking nearly two years off with knee and hip issues. Body fat ballooned during the time where I wasn't working out, and I went from 112kg at 12% all the way up to 130kg. Had quite bad lethargy, low motivation, low sex drive, etc and a blood test ordered by the doctor showed my test levels were down the drain (free test was at 193 pmol/L).

The doctor was reluctant to go down the path of TRT, so I went to a TRT clinic and got a second opinion with a second blood test. Free test wasn’t any better on the second blood test (204 pmol/L) and they immediately gave the green light.

Since then, have dropped to 113kg and have a good 6 months of consistency around both training and diet. Originally had a target of 105kg (based on my calculations of what my lean body mass is, I’d expect to be 12-13% body fat at this weight (provided my estimation of my body fat is correct) so will be looking to continue dropping fat while (re)building muscle. Particularly keen to keep the accountability high, as well as get real-time advice and recommendations from the crew that are killing it on here.

Happy to take thoughts/ suggestions as to how to further optimise.

Also, I am planning to post workouts with exercises and weights, food pics with macros, pics of my current look, as well as throughout the cycle, etc.

Thanks legends.
@hypogaeum fully now you are welcome in the EVO family, amazing log :)

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio

Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good, I see meals but actual meals ED would be good to see as you go and portions

Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger, hard to say so far where you at as those are just base exercises no reps weights

cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred, please share the pic to start the log, so we know your base
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more :)
 
Looks pretty good what you've got going. I would suggest using aromasin instead arimidex as it's much better AI and suicidal so actually remove e2 whereas you may have problems with e2 rebound on arimidex
Appreciate this suggestion. Will source Aromasin and start with 12.5mg EOD.

Possible suggestion and probably what I would do in your case is keep test at 250mg, primo a bit higher 350mg as this should help keep e2 in check
I wouldn't go anything less than 16 weeks using enanthate esters
Depending on the bloods at the 6 week mark, I may drop the Tren out at 8 weeks, and continue on with the Test at 400-500mg/ week and Primo at 600mg or so/ week.
 
Yesterday's Workout:

Bent Over Row - Underhand (Barbell)
Set 1: 70 kg × 12
Set 2: 70 kg × 10
Set 3: 70 kg × 8
Set 4: 70 kg × 6
Set 5: 70 kg × 6

Lat Pulldown - Underhand (Cable)
Set 1: 125 kg × 10
Set 2: 125 kg × 10
Set 3: 125 kg × 10
Set 4: 125 kg × 10

Bent Over One Arm Row (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 25 kg × 10
Set 2: 25 kg × 10
Set 3: 25 kg × 10
Set 4: 25 kg × 10

Cable Rope Pullover
Set 1: 40 kg × 12
Set 2: 40 kg × 12
Set 3: 40 kg × 12
Set 4: 40 kg × 12

Face Pull (Cable)
Set 1: 30 kg × 12
Set 2: 30 kg × 12
Set 3: 30 kg × 12
Set 4: 30 kg × 12
Set 5: 30 kg × 12
Set 6: 30 kg × 12
Set 7: 30 kg × 12
 
Yesterday's Workout:

Bent Over Row - Underhand (Barbell)
Set 1: 70 kg × 12
Set 2: 70 kg × 10
Set 3: 70 kg × 8
Set 4: 70 kg × 6
Set 5: 70 kg × 6

Lat Pulldown - Underhand (Cable)
Set 1: 125 kg × 10
Set 2: 125 kg × 10
Set 3: 125 kg × 10
Set 4: 125 kg × 10

Bent Over One Arm Row (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 25 kg × 10
Set 2: 25 kg × 10
Set 3: 25 kg × 10
Set 4: 25 kg × 10

Cable Rope Pullover
Set 1: 40 kg × 12
Set 2: 40 kg × 12
Set 3: 40 kg × 12
Set 4: 40 kg × 12

Face Pull (Cable)
Set 1: 30 kg × 12
Set 2: 30 kg × 12
Set 3: 30 kg × 12
Set 4: 30 kg × 12
Set 5: 30 kg × 12
Set 6: 30 kg × 12
Set 7: 30 kg × 12
good training day :) face pulls high reps like a lot of volume

did you prep your face blurred pics for us? please post it up @hypogaeum
 
This is a fantastic workout man keep up the good work
 

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Nah, nowhere near what I want to be. But the journey is restarting here, and I'm sure I can get back to where I was and go even better!
You have an amazing base if you ask me, super full size :)
 
G'Day All,

This is my 1st log but have followed plenty in the past and hope to do the Aussie team proud! I’m throwing this up now, but with Christmas (and a three week trip away) I don’t plan to start logging workouts, nutrition, etc until the new year.

Current Stats:
Age: 29
Height: 187cm
Weight: 113kg
Body Fat % (estimated): 18-20% (would be glad of a second opinion here, not sure of I’m underestimating it, so will throw up some photos)
Training Experience (in years): ~10

Training:
Currently training 5 days a week, and then try ensuring active rest on the weekend (walks/ bike rides, park, etc with the kids). Not long changed to a split of back, shoulders and calves, chest, legs, arms.. I am doing 15-45 minutes of cardio 4-5 times a week, at the end of my weight sessions. Generally train in the afternoon, immediately after work.

Diet:
Daily caloric intake currently 2700/ day. Started tracking again, more from a total calories side of things, rather than the macros, but trying to keep the choices sensible and the amounts reasonable for a 40/40/20 split.

Typical Daily Eating:

Breakfast
  • Six egg whites, two whole eggs on a slice of wholegrain toast, or
  • 200g of Greek yogurt, 30g of oats and a tsp of peanut butter, or
  • Protein smoothie with a scoop of protein powder, 200ml of almond milk, one banana and a tbsp of flaxseeds
Lunch
  • Lemon herb chicken with roasted potatoes and steamed carrot, or
  • Grilled chicken with brown rice and roasted capsicum, with a low-calorie sauce, or
  • Grilled chicken in a Thai style satay sauce, with coriander rice and parsley, or
  • BBQ chicken with corn and sweet potato, brown rice and a low-calorie sauce
Pre-Workout Snack
  • Scoop of protein and a rice cake with honey or jam
Post-Workout Snack
  • Protein shake
Dinner (usually my biggest meal of the day as it's after my workout)
  • Grilled chicken with roasted or steamed vegetables and sweet potato mash, or
  • Stir-fry with lean beef or chicken and plenty of veggies, with noodles, or
  • Steak, mashed potato and steamed greens
Supplements:
CoQ10 (300mg/ day)
Omega-3 Fish Oil (3g/ day)
Telmisartan (40mg/ day)
NAC (2g/ day)
L-Carnitine (1g/ day)
MagTaur Xcell (magnesium and taurine blend)
TUDCA (500mg/ day)
Detox Pro (liver and body detoxifier)
Arimidex (0.5mg/ week)

Recent Blood Work (while on 250mg/week of Test E):
Total Testosterone: 44.3 nmol/L (reference range: 8.3–29 nmol/L)
Free Testosterone: 1145.1 pmol/L (reference range: 255.0–725.0 pmol/L)
SHBG: 26 nmol/L (reference range: 11–71 nmol/L)
AST: 32 U/L (reference range: <35 U/L)
ALT: 34 U/L (reference range: <40 U/L)
GGT: 31 U/L (reference range: <40 U/L)
E2 (Estradiol): 128 pmol/L (reference range for males <150 pmol/L) (added in Arimidex to bring this down. Target of 40-60 pmol/L)
Hemoglobin: 169 g/L (reference range: 130–180 g/L)
Hematocrit: 0.51 (reference range: 0.40–0.54)
WBC: 5.9 x10^9/L (reference range: 4.0–11.0 x10^9/L)
Platelets: 310 x10^9/L (reference range: 150–400 x10^9/L)
Creatinine: 95 umol/L (reference range: 60–110 umol/L)
eGFR: >90 mL/min/1.73m² (normal kidney function)
Sodium: 139 mmol/L (reference range: 135–145 mmol/L)
Potassium: 5.2 mmol/L (reference range: 3.6–5.4 mmol/L)
Fasting Glucose: 4.7 mmol/L (reference range: 3.4–5.4 mmol/L)

Cycle Plan:
Cycle Goals: Recomp (lean muscle gain while dropping body fat)

Compounds Planned for Use:
Test E (Bayer): 300mg/ week
Primo E (Beligas, purchased from @RhinoUGL): 300mg/ week
Tren A (Beligas, sponsored by @RhinoUGL): 150mg/ week
Anavar (Beligas, purchased from @RhinoUGL): 12.5mg pre-workout
Growth Hormone (purchased from @Livewell2024): 3IU/ day
Injection Frequency: Equal amounts, three times a week

Cycle Length: 10 weeks (maybe drop to 8 or extend to 12, depending on bloods), then back to TRT

A couple of points on where my head is at, as far as the cycle and the dosages:
  • Will consider increasing Test from week six after I get mid-cycle bloods done.
  • I've used Tren several times in the past and absolutely love it, with weekly dosages ranging from 100mg up to 600mg, so understand the sides and what it can/ will do to my bloodwork.
  • The aim is lean muscle gain, which I think Primo will tick the box nicely on, and I figure it won't negatively increase E2.
Currently on TRT+ (250mg/ week) and will be dropping back to TRT (150-200mg/ week) after I do this 8-12 week cycle. I don't expect crazy results from what many would consider a small cycle, but a kickstart into the new year and keeping the momentum going is what I'm aiming for.

Those that have seen me around on the forum would have picked up that I’m a big believer in keeping a very close eye on the bloodwork, and I try to understand as much of the theory as possible, with a willingness to keep learning. While my bloods show everything within range at the moment, there are a few things that are in the higher end, which I am aware of and actively monitoring/ treating.

Additional Notes:

I started working out when I was 16 and have done a mix of powerlifting and bodybuilding up until about three years ago. Ended up taking nearly two years off with knee and hip issues. Body fat ballooned during the time where I wasn't working out, and I went from 112kg at 12% all the way up to 130kg. Had quite bad lethargy, low motivation, low sex drive, etc and a blood test ordered by the doctor showed my test levels were down the drain (free test was at 193 pmol/L).

The doctor was reluctant to go down the path of TRT, so I went to a TRT clinic and got a second opinion with a second blood test. Free test wasn’t any better on the second blood test (204 pmol/L) and they immediately gave the green light.

Since then, have dropped to 113kg and have a good 6 months of consistency around both training and diet. Originally had a target of 105kg (based on my calculations of what my lean body mass is, I’d expect to be 12-13% body fat at this weight (provided my estimation of my body fat is correct) so will be looking to continue dropping fat while (re)building muscle. Particularly keen to keep the accountability high, as well as get real-time advice and recommendations from the crew that are killing it on here.

Happy to take thoughts/ suggestions as to how to further optimise.

Also, I am planning to post workouts with exercises and weights, food pics with macros, pics of my current look, as well as throughout the cycle, etc.

Thanks legends.
Yeah the Aussie boys 🔥🔥

Looks like a decent log bro. But I need to give you the AE treatment and question some things 🤣💪🏼

You are running a polypharmacy style cycle, awesome shit, however why don’t you use the power of minimal for maximum results and start adding in goodies to further potentiate your goals?

Your plan is to add lean tissue,
Refocus the diet and use carb cycling to keep you lean and refeed days to maximise metabolic rate and increase lean tissue accrual, this will keep you lean and insulin sensitive. You will need to focus more on the diet here and less on the drugs. Because at the end of the day that’s what’s going to give you results. I would suggest getting leaner before you start pushing the lean bulk. Bulking right now or lean bulking may give you sub optimal results. Solid base don’t get me wrong, but if you started a lean bulking at around 9-11% you will be way happier with your results. Sure you can puff up the glycogen stores now and add some size, but the tissue will come through insulin sensitivity.

You could start with 200mg test 3IU GH and some anavar let’s say, that’s going to give you results, adding other things in the mix I don’t think will give you more, it may accommodate maybe 10% more where if you get leaner you will see a much larger return on your investment.

I think personally bro, you should re think the plan, you can do ALOT with what you’re working with.. and if you do things the right way, you can lean out and gain more tissue. Without the use of tren too 😎 I specifically specialise in these types of goals, getting bigger whilst getting leaner 💪🫡
 
The aim is to be big enough and strong enough to take down @BodyMonster34 in a fight, but lean enough and good looking enough that he enjoys it 😜
bro i will give you a few months to get stronger and bigger out of respect. but after that its you and me 1 on 1 in prison cell.

just be ready to get shanked
 
Yeah the Aussie boys 🔥🔥

Looks like a decent log bro. But I need to give you the AE treatment and question some things 🤣💪🏼

You are running a polypharmacy style cycle, awesome shit, however why don’t you use the power of minimal for maximum results and start adding in goodies to further potentiate your goals?

Your plan is to add lean tissue,
Refocus the diet and use carb cycling to keep you lean and refeed days to maximise metabolic rate and increase lean tissue accrual, this will keep you lean and insulin sensitive. You will need to focus more on the diet here and less on the drugs. Because at the end of the day that’s what’s going to give you results. I would suggest getting leaner before you start pushing the lean bulk. Bulking right now or lean bulking may give you sub optimal results. Solid base don’t get me wrong, but if you started a lean bulking at around 9-11% you will be way happier with your results. Sure you can puff up the glycogen stores now and add some size, but the tissue will come through insulin sensitivity.

You could start with 200mg test 3IU GH and some anavar let’s say, that’s going to give you results, adding other things in the mix I don’t think will give you more, it may accommodate maybe 10% more where if you get leaner you will see a much larger return on your investment.

I think personally bro, you should re think the plan, you can do ALOT with what you’re working with.. and if you do things the right way, you can lean out and gain more tissue. Without the use of tren too 😎 I specifically specialise in these types of goals, getting bigger whilst getting leaner 💪🫡
Hey thanks for taking the time to put the effort into such a detailed and genuine reply.

A couple or points/ questions:
- Carb cycling I have a decent grasp on, but refeeds are something that I’m still not 100% confident on. Any chance you can point me to some material where I can better understand both concepts better in view of implementing? (Happy with text, video or audio)
- The test, GH and anavar was a cycle I considered. I’ll reconsider again.
 
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