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You guys ever mixing 100-200g sugar in water for performance and recovery? Stuffs magic.
Works but cluster dextrin or maltodextrin does the same job without the bloat mate, straight sucrose gets nasty past 100g
I don't get a ton of bloat from sugar, my breakfast is 15 bananas with 300-400g added table sugar, usually 350g. I find this breakfast makes me feel light(not doing hard exersize RIGHT after) and powerfull. I'm literally gonna be a pro cyclist in like a year. This stuff is key, I have the bananas and sugar before bed sometimes, it's key for recovery from my experience. It's essential for what I'm doing because constant PRs is stressful the carbs and sugar help me deal with it I guess cuz I enjoy every minute.
Btw my a1c all that good did this a million times over took blood tests every month for a while, the doctors started telling me no more glucose tests because they always come back perfect. Triglycerides in the lowest 25% of the population. Cholesterol scores in the best 10% of population.
oh ya my last posts on here was about asking if I should do test, I didn't end up doing it if anyone's wondering. Realized it's not test that makes cyclists fast, the best cyclists look like they have super low T
You sound like 'Durianrider' here in Australia look him up
I watched his videos on/off for 20 years. Took me a real long time to figure my shit out early 20s, got sidetracked... Then made it back to durianrider and went all in. Always knew if I ever wanted to locked in and become a crazy athlete I can just lock in and follow Durianrider protocols and acheive peak human capability. I literally see myself becoming pro level cyclist. The rate at which I'm increasing wattage and not slowing down is ridiculas. And I was born with terrible cardio, I was stuck with shit cardio. Now I'm heading to be pro level.
Last year my 20 min watts was 196w, it's 320w now and still climbing. My hour PR currently is 281 from 160w last year, and yesturday I just did 2 hours straight at 271w yesturday which is crazy improvment, and I don't see it slowing down yet.
With how things are going I gain 10w per month I should be at 400w in 6-7 months. If I train more, maybe even quicker. I'm hoping to reach tour de France level lol Wel see but I think I'm gonna do it
With how things are going I gain 10w per month I should be at 400w in 6-7 months. If I train more, maybe even quicker. I'm hoping to reach tour de France level lol Wel see but I think I'm gonna do it
You gotta look into the sugar as a tool for performance and weight loss it is highly beneficial. I'm not a vegan or anything, checkout Mark Smelly Bell he has allot of videos about sugar and weight loss but not a ton on the performance benefits I think sugar directly helps raise vo2max SUPER quickly. Specifically the sleep water sugar protocol.
No. I haven't 'gotta' do jack lol. But I'll address why. And I say this as someone who has a sweet tooth.
The great and vast majority of people consume far too much sugar. This forum's users, for the most part (like 99%) do NOT need to use sugar. Most are either wanting to add muscle, lose fat or be stronger (me).
I don't care if Mark Bell has 1000 videos on using sugar. How many videos a YT user has is NOT a sign of useful knowledge. Now, if it was about Powerlifting that's different. He was a national standard lifter and record holder. I mean I could post 14 threads on eating 'anabolic' horseshit eh?
Look at what you do and the metrics used to measure load (watts). Ditto how cyclists still use CARBS (shit loads of pasta years ago) over straight sugars. Most here would be better to do a LOT of work cycling fasted (fat burning) vs seeing watt output go up. Now also think about how, IF you ever got to the TOF, you'd manage to do one of the longer stages if you'd need to rely on consuming sugar during 100km. It's a LOT better if you 'loaded up' then was able to consistently produce a high watt output (better than the others obvs).
Further more I also suspect you'd become VERY efficient at processing sugar. So how do you cope when NOT riding the bike like a demon?
There's literally science on how, unless a crazy high level endurance athlete (marathon+ runners etc) almost no one gets proper benefits from Glucose drinks vs a better carb rich diet. In my case I have a small bowl of ceral (so carbs) pre training. I'm not adding 20kg to my bench eating sugar instead. And that's without getting into how I'd have to top it up during the workout as a pure sugar boost drops off very quickly
No. In one aspect only. Cycling. SOME in short burst of peak power. That's it.
That's BS too. C'mon. See Armstrong and what he did. Cancer, chemo and T. Plus all the other crap they did. Heck, back in the day they used speed, coke and EPO.
It's as you should know, NOT about how you look. It's what you can do. Does cycling like your ass is on fire make you healthy. No. Only in 1-2 metrics. I'd go so far as to suggest serious potential issues in immune suppression at the very top end.
Sounds like a sugar high.
I'd expect nothing less in my second bold section). You ought to have SOME top 10% metrics.
Truth is ALL high end performance athletes push good and bad metrics. I've had or might still have a few world records. That means I've had to take my body to a place no one else has. Which is arguably NOT necessarily healthy. Indeed my risk of injury was very high
Hey man was just trying to give a friendly reccomendations to check it out not demanding anything out of you. Just trying to share the secrets. Cycling performance relies heavily on cardio capacity and endurance, how fit the body is, how well it can perform. I thought you all would be interested in the contribution.
It doesn't matter if I am sedentary,.I stay super lean and insulin sensitive this way, and that's what allot of people need..insulin sensitivity. These are secrets like to share to keep people.off.drugs. because I was considering doing test when I didn't even need to..so I'm sharing.
You have no idea how wattage works, increasing your wattage over time is increasing your vo2 max and your cardio capability.. I don't take drugs. I don't even do caffeine bud. It's the whole point of my contributing to this forum..lol
You have no idea how wattage works, increasing your wattage over time is increasing your vo2 max and your cardio capability.. I don't take drugs. I don't even do caffeine
It's not healthy if you don't get enough sugars hydration and sleep. Without enough sugar, too much cardio and constant PR will crash your hormones and sleep and destroy ya if push too hard
And the stims, stimulants like caffeine plus too much cardio and lack of sleep no carbs SUCKS.. I'll let everyone know when my natty gains slow down you can follow me and see what I eat @mad.shaman in instagram
Strictly anti-drug, giving people options etc. taking steroids for cardio is retarded considering the consequences. Also taking drugs for in the moment performance is stupid as well especially consistently, which is why if i ever did a stimulant it would be ultra low dose caffeine 20-75mg
Strictly anti-drug, giving people options etc. taking steroids for cardio is retarded considering the consequences. Also taking drugs for in the moment performance is stupid as well especially consistently, which is why if i ever did a stimulant it would be ultra low dose caffeine 20-75mg
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bad idea tbh @SugarIsKing you're going to get a lot of diabetic shock
Really. It's literally a measure of the work. It's a METRIC showing that you've increased, as you say, VO2 max and cardio. Not just consumed more sugar, as was your original point, and so have more energy IF your VO2 and cardio ability is ready too. Never assume those taking the time to reply don't know ho racers measure load and or ability.
I could measure your VO2 max and cardio ability completely separately from measuring how many watts an hour you produce. And, as I hope you know, it's HOW the wattage is measured. So for 5 mins (peak) vs you pedaling for an hour. Ditto pedaling hard for an hour vs bursts of energy.
The issue is it's two different points and you're muddying it. Simply put you become a better racing rider by becoming fitter. Via workload. Not just by consuming more sugar
And what do you mean by the whole point of your being here is based on not using drugs and or caffeine? Vs using a boat load of sugar and recommending it to people (ie: most here) who lift weights
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In America I can tell you, especially growing up, we consume more sugar than any human being should consume in their lifetime. My answer is a hard no. Of course if you're in another country, like Australia for example, you guys are in a different boat.
Also Mark Bell. I haven't seen a lot of his videos but I've seen a couple of them and I can tell you he's one of the last people I would want to listen to when it comes to nutrition or really anything else. He's a complete imbecile just like 99% of youtubers out there. It's just nonsense clickbait
maybe you should find out how refined sugar is a processed thing. Sugar cane is nothing like the sugar that you would get in a supermarket. It's bleached and chemicals are added and it's heavily processed.
Also before you get too far ahead in your thinking, keep in mind that anything you put in your body gets converted into glycogen to be used for energy. Let's say you eat a steak, for example. It's something called gluconeogenesis, which actually turns into "sugar." You don't have to consume refined, chemically laced sugar to have fuel in your body. That's just absurd and it shows a lack of understanding of how the body works. Also if you eat nothing for days on end, your liver will release sugar into the bloodstream. Technically you're incorrect on that. The body has mechanisms in place to keep our blood sugar levels where they need to be.
Now it's good that you're trying to think outside the box. When you say things like "we need to add sugar to our water," now you're thinking the whole "IIFYM" bullshit. That was proven wrong years ago and all the guys that were pushing it are being laughed at today because we know it's a bunch of bullshit.
Bros, I'm not sure there's any science that says that sugar is good for you. Sugar is a magnet to disease. Granny CEO used to eat a lot of sugar; she ended up with diabetes.
just out of curiosity what is your experience with all this? It seems like you're just throwing out theories on this stuff. What experience do you have with steroids? How many cycles have you done and all that?
I think it's great that you're experimenting with stuff, but this kind of smells like you're just trying to get clicks for your social media page. It's not a serious post.
wild animals get zero sugar yet magically they're able to survive and thrive in many cases
I havent personally done this
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