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Approved Log Health improvement log: TRT, HGH, dihexa, cerebrolysin, noopept, picamilon, afobazol, phenibut, retin-a

I switched blood labs, because i got unreliable/inconsistent results.
Current protocol:
125 test
1200 HCG
1 HGH

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I think the 3-6-2025 was also not a valid measurement, that was 100mg
24-07-2025 is 125mg, so the jump seems a bit off
but i also switched brand test and HCG, so that could also explain the jump
i did notice this HCG being more potent now that i think about it
my balls are about 15-20% bigger i would estimate, bigger than they where natural

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So this is a bit high, but I'm going to keep it here for a while.
My log is about health and feeling better, but I'm still waiting for (customs):
cerebrolysin, noopept, picamilon, afobazol, phenibut
This test level actually makes me feel good and way more easy to deal with the problems I'm facing.

Question:
Do you guys think i should lower my e2?
I could add in some DIM, i have good results with that in the past
(that's why 26-6 and 6-11 are lower)


Last 3 glucose measurements:
66 85 53 (20h fast)
So far HGH has 0 effect on my levels.

I have been able to do some workouts and some stretching, will keep on doing this.

Slowly but surely, I'm climbing out of the lows in my life.
you should lower your e2 for sure broly @rowi but use aromasin not DIM imo
 
yeah i already lowered the HCG and added in the DIM
i want to give DIM a try since i had good results in the past (see my bloods above)

i will switch to aromasin if needed
If you added HCG with DIM you do bloods before? @rowi
hows your training food?
 
yes

remember that this log is about health, there is Definitely an improvement there

food is always on point for me, training is 2x to 3x a week (was not able to train at all a while ago)
How about fiber intake?
 
i add in a table spoon of Psyllium husk a day

How about fiber intake?

i wanted to dial in my TRT without an AI, that's just a preference of less medications
then i overshot my target as explained above, but my mental improved a lot
DIM worked for me in the past, but is also expensive to run at higher doses
it makes the liver more efficient in processing E2, but is that really better dan making the liver process an AI: i doubt this
so after thinking about this some more i do want to start with an AI

what i have in stock: Aromasin

where should i start you think?
 
have you been increating fasting?

thanks for that clarification

@rowi welcome back bro! Keep the log coming!

@rowi nice update man

overall those are normal sides of hgh and test broly and happy you not using homebrew
you feel btter overall?

yes it will impact your life bigtime. proper posture is very important. And the more muscle you put on the worse it will get

@rowi

bros this a big deal. But, let's be honest, a lot of people have similar problems. Best thing you can do is exercise get the blood flowing and do a lot of stretching.

@rowi

bro i once fell off tanker 30ft. they said i wouldn't train for a year. i was back in the gym in 3 days .. trooo story
@rowi

It would seem easier to work on the fatigue. Remind me what you think causes it

posture is very important. when you join the military if you don't stand straight you get in trouble. good on you for trying to solve this
@rowi

@rowi you won't go wrong with this! very nice job . you are pushing things nicely proud of you

Hopefully the new insoles will help a lot brother.

Good work

Working on better posture is always a good thing hopefully it helps 🙏

yep and add to it the compression we do weight training. your discs get pressed when we weight train. the more muscular you get the tighter things get, the more they press against nerves. pinched nerves and disc issues are a big issue unless you improve flexibility and mobility. you see pro athletes, the most flexible guys get injured LESS that is a fact. 300 pound nose tackles can do splits cause they been stretching their whole lives. they spend so much time stretching for a reason daily

Stretching greatly reduces stress in your body and mind. I have done a lot of physical therapy from my numerous injuries, and I did a lot of stretching while I was training various martial arts. I still very much recommend yoga over all of these. Imagine regular stretching is like isolation exercises. And yoga is like compound lifts. Which has the greater effect? Guys that just do dumbbell curls to get big arms get very minimal gains, but some, not zero. But when a new lifter gets really good at doing squats their whole body grows and gets stronger. Yoga feels like that. There’s really no need to wait man. Pick up a cheap mat and follow some sun salutations on YouTube when you wake up. Pretty soon you’ll start feeling yourself working into the poses better and your whole physiology will start improving. Don’t wait. Do it TODAY


i think I'm going to start with 10mg once a week
feedback is welcome
 
i think I'm going to start with 10mg once a week
feedback is welcome
When I was taking 210mg test, and 3x250iu hcg/ week I was suggested 6.25 mg aromasin eod. I took it 3x per week the day of my hcg shot. Took my e2 from 90s to 20s, nicely in range. Made my skin perfect, I had had some mild barely noticeable anxiety and some stronger emotions and I feel better FOR SURE, but I really thought I was fine. I had been that way for years
 
When I was taking 210mg test, and 3x250iu hcg/ week I was suggested 6.25 mg aromasin eod. I took it 3x per week the day of my hcg shot. Took my e2 from 90s to 20s, nicely in range. Made my skin perfect, I had had some mild barely noticeable anxiety and some stronger emotions and I feel better FOR SURE, but I really thought I was fine. I had been that way for years
Also, some other things are variable, but my liver enzymes were improved slightly after the aromasin, so I’m not inclined to think it’s doing much in that regard. I wasn’t wanting to take an AI either. I’m super thankful for the direct, first person, free professional help I got here.
 
When I was taking 210mg test, and 3x250iu hcg/ week I was suggested 6.25 mg aromasin eod. I took it 3x per week the day of my hcg shot. Took my e2 from 90s to 20s, nicely in range. Made my skin perfect, I had had some mild barely noticeable anxiety and some stronger emotions and I feel better FOR SURE, but I really thought I was fine. I had been that way for years
yeah i'm on 125 test + 1200 hcg (now lowered to 875)
so my staring point makes sense i think (i want to go from 60 to 40)

also you aimed for 20, from what i know i want to aim for 40
e2 also has a lot of positive functions for example neuroprotection (i have brain health issues)
do you have experience with 40? or did you go from 90 to 20 and stay there?

do you mean you had anxiety and stronger emotions with high E2 only?

Also, some other things are variable, but my liver enzymes were improved slightly after the aromasin, so I’m not inclined to think it’s doing much in that regard. I wasn’t wanting to take an AI either. I’m super thankful for the direct, first person, free professional help I got here.
i like to read that, I'm health conscious
yeah me too, great community here!

10mgs aromasin?
yes
 
eah i'm on 125 test + 1200 hcg (now lowered to 875)
so my staring point makes sense i think (i want to go from 60 to 40)

also you aimed for 20, from what i know i want to aim for 40
e2 also has a lot of positive functions for example neuroprotection (i have brain health issues)
do you have experience with 40? or did you go from 90 to 20 and stay there?

do you mean you had anxiety and stronger emotions with high E2 only?
you want to keep estrogen low you dont want it high, there are sides to it brother
 
yeah i'm on 125 test + 1200 hcg (now lowered to 875)
so my staring point makes sense i think (i want to go from 60 to 40)

also you aimed for 20, from what i know i want to aim for 40
e2 also has a lot of positive functions for example neuroprotection (i have brain health issues)
do you have experience with 40? or did you go from 90 to 20 and stay there?

do you mean you had anxiety and stronger emotions with high E2 only?


i like to read that, I'm health conscious
yeah me too, great community here!


yes
I simply took the expert advice I received here, and mid 20s was the result. I’ve been there since, and it feels very natural. I’ve had a few bad concussions, history of panic attacks and anxiety. I feel good here.

With the high e2 I was for sure having MILD anxiety, but also there were definitely times that I would feel a little weepy etc. or some strong positive emotion. it was fiiiiine, but like, not normal. Nothing extreme. Beyond that, I definitely was struggling with body acne THE WHOLE TIME. I have naturally very oily skin. I assumed it was a dht thing as one would think that I’m just a very high dht/highly dht sensitive person because all the things that dht does are pronounced in me, aside from body hair, I’m middle of the road on that. Lowering my e2 cured body acne 100%, my skin is great now🙂.
 
Sorry i don't understand what you mean.

I'm at 60 now aiming for 40.
I think 40-60 is a range you can stay in if you feel comfortable but how long have you had this e2 level?
 
I simply took the expert advice I received here, and mid 20s was the result. I’ve been there since, and it feels very natural. I’ve had a few bad concussions, history of panic attacks and anxiety. I feel good here.

With the high e2 I was for sure having MILD anxiety, but also there were definitely times that I would feel a little weepy etc. or some strong positive emotion. it was fiiiiine, but like, not normal. Nothing extreme. Beyond that, I definitely was struggling with body acne THE WHOLE TIME. I have naturally very oily skin. I assumed it was a dht thing as one would think that I’m just a very high dht/highly dht sensitive person because all the things that dht does are pronounced in me, aside from body hair, I’m middle of the road on that. Lowering my e2 cured body acne 100%, my skin is great now🙂.

thanks for sharing 👊
mental sides are very important to me
"panic attacks and anxiety" me too unfortunately
but 90 is quite high, i wonder what 40 would do for you
or if i could feel 40 vs 20

acne i notice i have when my hormones fluctuate
like now i lowered my HCG + added aromasin and now i have some pimples
when i changed from 100mg to 125mg i also noticed this

I think 40-60 is a range you can stay in if you feel comfortable but how long have you had this e2 level?

i posted charts here
first blood work after going to 125mg that i got back for my E2
for my 100mg blood, the e2 test failed somehow
but my test at 100mg was below my natural high, so i increased anyway
 
i posted charts here
first blood work after going to 125mg that i got back for my E2
for my 100mg blood, the e2 test failed somehow
but my test at 100mg was below my natural high, so i increased anyway
e2 test failed how? didnt the doctor retake? @rowi
 
There is no doctor involved.
I can order blood work on a website.
Don't know, switched to another lab after having that issue and later weird results.
You should retake it yourself.
 
since my T was still way lower then my natural historical high T i made this call

But you are right
Can you retake the bloods?
 
Now i think you misunderstood.

I don't have an e2 for my 100 mg test
I do have one for the 125 , that is recent.
E2 was 60 , i have added 10 aromasin.
Now I'm waiting a couple of weeks and check again.

So there is nothing to retake at this point.
I see thats fine.
How is the training?
 
I see thats fine.
How is the training?
All of the stuff in the title what i was going to log about is still stuck in customs.
So the only thing i can really log about is trt.
When i started this log i was too sick to train at all.
Right now I'm doing upper lower twice a week.
So that's a big improvement.

My actual biggest problem is extreme naussua, on the edge of trowing up for most of the day and night.
My sleep is horrible right now, because i wake up constantly from this feeling.
I'm also down 2.5kg.

This is one of the problems i have with my body and have had for many years periodically.
This problem comes and goes, so i just endure it and at some point it stops again.
As in a couple of weeks to a month.
 
All of the stuff in the title what i was going to log about is still stuck in customs.
So the only thing i can really log about is trt.
When i started this log i was too sick to train at all.
Right now I'm doing upper lower twice a week.
So that's a big improvement.

My actual biggest problem is extreme naussua, on the edge of trowing up for most of the day and night.
My sleep is horrible right now, because i wake up constantly from this feeling.
I'm also down 2.5kg.

This is one of the problems i have with my body and have had for many years periodically.
This problem comes and goes, so i just endure it and at some point it stops again.
As in a couple of weeks to a month.
The nausea is because of food usually. What are you eating? and you taking digestive aids daily? @rowi
 
The nausea is because of food usually. What are you eating? and you taking digestive aids daily? @rowi
Naussea in my case is mostly because of migraines. While they are suppressed by medications i still experience symptoms like sound sensitivity, naussea etc.

I haven't been able to do anything about that, i have tried a lot in the past
Diet is unchanged and i have tried digestive enzymes without success.
That's why i said i just endure it, and it will go away again.

Thanks for your effort and suggestions though 👊
Don't hesitate to make other suggestions.
 
Naussea in my case is mostly because of migraines. While they are suppressed by medications i still experience symptoms like sound sensitivity, naussea etc.

I haven't been able to do anything about that, i have tried a lot in the past
Diet is unchanged and i have tried digestive enzymes without success.
That's why i said i just endure it, and it will go away again.

Thanks for your effort and suggestions though 👊
Don't hesitate to make other suggestions.
Food will cause that issue, you really need to try to add digestive aids ED @rowi
 
thanks, but the problem has resolved itself again

i will be doing new bloods next week, i will update here
how did it resolve itself? :D
 
how did it resolve itself? :D
like i said migraines come with way more problems than only headaches:
  • nausea / vomiting
  • can't tolerate sounds and/or light
  • brain fog / memory loss
  • visual impairments / auras
  • etc
all of those are cyclic for me, i was just dealing with nausea as the main problem this time
 
Also, some other things are variable, but my liver enzymes were improved slightly after the aromasin, so I’m not inclined to think it’s doing much in that regard. I wasn’t wanting to take an AI either. I’m super thankful for the direct, first person, free professional help I got here.

Can you retake the bloods?


My new blood results

Previous protocol was:
  • 125 test
  • 1200 hcg
Current protocol
  • 125 test
  • 875 hcg
  • 10 aromasin
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4 things to notice:
  1. Lowering HCG didn't change my test levels at all, i want to go try 700 next
    EDIT:
    I used up my premixed supply and only lowered the dose the last 1.5 weeks
    So maybe to short to see a change.
  2. 10 mg aromasin 1x a week really makes a huge difference
  3. My test level is a bit high to call it TRT, but I'm dealing with mental problems.
    This test level makes them almost non existent, so i leave it like this for now.
    I think that's a good lesson for anyone reading this log: higher test levels are great for how you feel
  4. Lowering my e2 makes a difference in how i feel, subtle but still noticeable
    Thanks for telling your story @toddthelineman, you where right about the slight anxiety with higher e2
AI:
I didn't want to add i another compound at first.
But i also haven't noticed any sides from it at all.
Since i do it 1x a week, i should notice sides if there are any.

So for my log in general:
Still waiting for all the brain stuff to arrive, but feeling a lot better then i started this log.
 
My new blood results

Previous protocol was:
  • 125 test
  • 1200 hcg
Current protocol
  • 125 test
  • 875 hcg
  • 10 aromasin
View attachment 111716

View attachment 111717

4 things to notice:
  1. Lowering HCG didn't change my test levels at all, i want to go try 700 next
    EDIT:
    I used up my premixed supply and only lowered the dose the last 1.5 weeks
    So maybe to short to see a change.
  2. 10 mg aromasin 1x a week really makes a huge difference
  3. My test level is a bit high to call it TRT, but I'm dealing with mental problems.
    This test level makes them almost non existent, so i leave it like this for now.
    I think that's a good lesson for anyone reading this log: higher test levels are great for how you feel
  4. Lowering my e2 makes a difference in how i feel, subtle but still noticeable
    Thanks for telling your story @toddthelineman, you where right about the slight anxiety with higher e2
AI:
I didn't want to add i another compound at first.
But i also haven't noticed any sides from it at all.
Since i do it 1x a week, i should notice sides if there are any.

So for my log in general:
Still waiting for all the brain stuff to arrive, but feeling a lot better then i started this log.
Very good with your work on this
 
like i said migraines come with way more problems than only headaches:
  • nausea / vomiting
  • can't tolerate sounds and/or light
  • brain fog / memory loss
  • visual impairments / auras
  • etc
all of those are cyclic for me, i was just dealing with nausea as the main problem this time
i see you talk about this
but you dont talk about your diet training at all whats up?
My new blood results

Previous protocol was:
  • 125 test
  • 1200 hcg
Current protocol
  • 125 test
  • 875 hcg
  • 10 aromasin
View attachment 111716

View attachment 111717

4 things to notice:
  1. Lowering HCG didn't change my test levels at all, i want to go try 700 next
    EDIT:
    I used up my premixed supply and only lowered the dose the last 1.5 weeks
    So maybe to short to see a change.
  2. 10 mg aromasin 1x a week really makes a huge difference
  3. My test level is a bit high to call it TRT, but I'm dealing with mental problems.
    This test level makes them almost non existent, so i leave it like this for now.
    I think that's a good lesson for anyone reading this log: higher test levels are great for how you feel
  4. Lowering my e2 makes a difference in how i feel, subtle but still noticeable
    Thanks for telling your story @toddthelineman, you where right about the slight anxiety with higher e2
AI:
I didn't want to add i another compound at first.
But i also haven't noticed any sides from it at all.
Since i do it 1x a week, i should notice sides if there are any.

So for my log in general:
Still waiting for all the brain stuff to arrive, but feeling a lot better then i started this log.
can you post the actual bloods with ranges brother? @rowi this doesnt tell us anything really
actual bloods with ranges, just blur personal info
 
I haven't posted here, my health did go backwards. (migraines)
Since the beginning of the year it's has been improving again.
None of the products in the subject made a big difference for that. (i have only tried Cerebrolysin)
I have been in the Gym consistently for about 1.5 month now.
That's a big step, because i haven't been able too in the last 5 years.
I have been keeping my body in good shape by diet and some home exercises only.
So that's all i have to report for this thread in case someone is looking for the outcome.
I have lowered the TRT to 50mg during this time and i even came off for half a year.

The good news is that I'm doing pretty well at the moment.
Still really low energy compared to the average person, but for me way better then any point in the last 5 years.

In the gym I'm progressing a lot, because I'm basically untrained. (i added a picture)
I have been able to build up to 3x week 2 sets to failure 5 exercises full body.

This will be the last message from me in this thread.
 

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I haven't posted here, my health did go backwards. (migraines)
Since the beginning of the year it's has been improving again.
None of the products in the subject made a big difference for that. (i have only tried Cerebrolysin)
I have been in the Gym consistently for about 1.5 month now.
That's a big step, because i haven't been able too in the last 5 years.
I have been keeping my body in good shape by diet and some home exercises only.
So that's all i have to report for this thread in case someone is looking for the outcome.
I have lowered the TRT to 50mg during this time and i even came off for half a year.

The good news is that I'm doing pretty well at the moment.
Still really low energy compared to the average person, but for me way better then any point in the last 5 years.

In the gym I'm progressing a lot, because I'm basically untrained. (i added a picture)
I have been able to build up to 3x week 2 sets to failure 5 exercises full body.

This will be the last message from me in this thread.
welcome back to the EVO family :D we missed you @rowi

you came off TRT completely?

lets get back on the horse! EVO family here for you.

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I haven't posted here, my health did go backwards. (migraines)
Since the beginning of the year it's has been improving again.
None of the products in the subject made a big difference for that. (i have only tried Cerebrolysin)
I have been in the Gym consistently for about 1.5 month now.
That's a big step, because i haven't been able too in the last 5 years.
I have been keeping my body in good shape by diet and some home exercises only.
So that's all i have to report for this thread in case someone is looking for the outcome.
I have lowered the TRT to 50mg during this time and i even came off for half a year.

The good news is that I'm doing pretty well at the moment.
Still really low energy compared to the average person, but for me way better then any point in the last 5 years.

In the gym I'm progressing a lot, because I'm basically untrained. (i added a picture)
I have been able to build up to 3x week 2 sets to failure 5 exercises full body.

This will be the last message from me in this thread.
Good that you're feeling the best you have been.

Weird to come back after nearly a year and say it will be the last message.
 
I haven't posted here, my health did go backwards. (migraines)
Since the beginning of the year it's has been improving again.
None of the products in the subject made a big difference for that. (i have only tried Cerebrolysin)
I have been in the Gym consistently for about 1.5 month now.
That's a big step, because i haven't been able too in the last 5 years.
I have been keeping my body in good shape by diet and some home exercises only.
So that's all i have to report for this thread in case someone is looking for the outcome.
I have lowered the TRT to 50mg during this time and i even came off for half a year.

The good news is that I'm doing pretty well at the moment.
Still really low energy compared to the average person, but for me way better then any point in the last 5 years.

In the gym I'm progressing a lot, because I'm basically untrained. (i added a picture)
I have been able to build up to 3x week 2 sets to failure 5 exercises full body.

This will be the last message from me in this thread.
Welcome back @rowi you look great after such a long layoff and I'm glad to hear things are looking up for you bro.

I hope you stay on EVO and keep us posted how you're doing.
 
Yeah i had so low energy that doing TRT also became too much to deal with. (really heavy burnout)
Now i'm back on TRT
ok good you're back on TRT have you done bloods? @rowi
 
For someone who has been off for years and only just come back you are looking good man! 💪
Hope health and motivation gets better bro

Actually i have never been ON as in a cycle. Just tried TRT for a half year to see if that helped me with my burnout. (it didn't)
Also i have never been to the gym before, just some home workouts here and there.
The picture is with a pump, so i don't look like that all day long.
I have been super skinny for most of my life, with age muscle came on (after 35)
So this look is based on a healthy diet, but now I'm in the gym for the first time in my life + back on TRT: so can only get better.
Thanks for the compliment: I do look really different then my profile pick now.
Less fat and more muscle i think. there i was 75kg i think, now 70.5

Good that you're feeling the best you have been.

Weird to come back after nearly a year and say it will be the last message.

well the purpose (experiments) in this post didn't help me with my health problems (and a lot of it was taken by customs)
so for this subject (this thread) i don't have anything to add
none of the experiments i did do had an effect on my burnout or migraines

Welcome back @rowi you look great after such a long layoff and I'm glad to hear things are looking up for you bro.

I hope you stay on EVO and keep us posted how you're doing.

thanks, well i could post some progress pictures, but that's not really the subject for this thread
 
not recently, but this dose (only 50 + HCG) is a dose i know my bloodwork for
also still running trusted stock (not the new i ordered from PSL which could be fake now)
so once i open my new supply i will have to check again
you should use USP @US-pharmacies instead I would dump the psl gear asap @rowi
i have put the pictures side by side: makes me feel good to see that actually
really hope my health is finally stable enough to keep going to the gym
good results there :D
 
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