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Ragepotato

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Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

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GOAL: More lean + visible abs
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
Good luck with the log!

The only thing I would suggest if you want to get leaner, is add more cardio to the ppl days (maybe not 30 mins, but 15/20) and/or play around with carb cycling/fasting
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
Welcome to the EVO fam and EVO logging bro!
Good first log post with some comprehensive info for us.

You have a great base physique and with your goal of getting leaner it will unveil the abs and muscle I can see. You have a good wide frame good chest and traps too this will be a great log.

170-200 g protein
Keep this at or above 200g

I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein
This is when you actually should take carbs and fats into consideration. On a cut we need to keep fats and carbs dialed in.

Peptides:
Great peptide regime and the SS31 before hand shows you're thinking everything through.

I actually double checked my logs and saw that I started my TRT July 9. I was confused to thinking I started June 9 (Sorry about that). Meaning the next doc bloodwork will be around September.

Can I actually start adding a low dose Test P and get private bloodwork done after 4 weeks of starting it?

By the way, you can reply on my first log I created if it is approved
This quote above taken from your other post in another thread.
For the TestP you'll want to pin for frequently. What is your current pin schedule?

You can always get private bloodwork done for sure and 4 weeks is a good sweet spot for this. Where are you located I'll give you an EVO link on getting private bloodwork done

Your log is in the mod queue for approval give it max 24 hours and we'll get this party started bro!
 
@HarleyGuy

What’s the recommended carb/fat for my weight?

pin schedule
Sunday/Thurs - Test E 50mg each
MWF - HCG @ 500 IU each day

Im planning adding 25 mg of Test P @ MWFS as soon as I can possibly get it. Then bloodwork after 4 weeks

Can i mix test P and test E in one syringe if they overlap?

I’m located in New Westminster BC
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
Welcome to the EVO family :D @Ragepotato you have a good start base and we can work on it :D thank you for sharing!

Cycle
@HarleyGuy

What’s the recommended carb/fat for my weight?

pin schedule
Sunday/Thurs - Test E 50mg each
MWF - HCG @ 500 IU each day

Im planning adding 25 mg of Test P @ MWFS as soon as I can possibly get it. Then bloodwork after 4 weeks

Can i mix test P and test E in one syringe if they overlap?

I’m located in New Westminster BC
this is a good cycle in general but if you want to bump test and you have hcg you will get nasty e2 sides
which leads into my next question, when were your last bloods? share please

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com
 
@LevButlerov
I will definitely give more information about my training, diet, and cardio.

I've only been monitoring my protein and calories for my diet for the past months to be honest. But I've got to do what I've got to do to achieve my goals. Expect more details on the coming logs

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep
Creatine Monohydrate - 10g/day (Forgot to include this)

I don't take any digestive supps. Aren't they counterproductive with reta since it slows gastric emptying? (I am not sure). What do you recommend?

These are my initial bloodwork pre TRT. I haven't got a new one yet since I've just started it with a doc. Considering how low my estradiol is, I wanted to try and add Test P for four weeks and see where that takes me.
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Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
@Ragepotato one of the things I really like is pull-ups. I believe in them tremendously. I think that they're one of the best exercises for your arms and back.
 
@stevesmi

Took me a lot of time to unlock my first one. And that was just early this year! Lots of practice. Im actually looking forward to unlock my muscle ups soon!
yep i love monkey bars too
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
Nice physique bro. As others have stated, on a cut is precisely the time to monitor all macros. Why dont you give the MyFitnessPal a shot. I use that for my macros, weight and workout routines. When adding meat entries, make sure they are for cooked meat weights as cooled meat can lose up to 25% of its weight during cooking but the macros stay the same.

For carbs on a cut, its more so geared towards your activity level not youe weight. You want just enough carbs that you have energy for the day but not too little carbs that you feel exhausted. Id suggest aiming for around 100-150g carbs to see to try out for now. Your day job comes into play with carb range as well. You obviously burn more calories in the trades than an office job.

I see you herniated you disc 6 months ago. Id suggest back extensions for help with that. I have 2 herniated discs myself. L4/L5 & L5/S1. Back extension are what helped me the most and i make sure to get a little flexion in my spine at the top and bottom of the movement.

@HarleyGuy

What’s the recommended carb/fat for my weight?

pin schedule
Sunday/Thurs - Test E 50mg each
MWF - HCG @ 500 IU each day

Im planning adding 25 mg of Test P @ MWFS as soon as I can possibly get it. Then bloodwork after 4 weeks

Can i mix test P and test E in one syringe if they overlap?

I’m located in New Westminster BC
As per your pin schedule for the test prop itself, id keep it EOD. Dont align it with days of the week like MWFS. Otherwise your pinning sunday and monday when the rest of the week is EOD.

And for mixing them its perfectly fine. Multiloading pins is what most do, well for oils atleast. Carrier oils mix very well together.

For peptides some multiload and some dont.
 
@Shakey gotta do what i gotta do and track those macros. I have an office job mostly sitting 8 hours a day. I would only ever need carbs for training.

Thanks for sharing that they can be mixed. I’m new to TRT and want to avoid pinning two of them in a day especially that i use a 28g needle instead of the 31g i use for the peptides.
 
@Shakey gotta do what i gotta do and track those macros. I have an office job mostly sitting 8 hours a day. I would only ever need carbs for training.

Thanks for sharing that they can be mixed. I’m new to TRT and want to avoid pinning two of them in a day especially that i use a 28g needle instead of the 31g i use for the peptides.
Yea so with an office job you can run lower carbs. Maybe give the 100-120g carb range a try. Not sure what you diets currently like, but you can also go lower as well.

Carb cycling is also an option as i see you only have cardio on day 4/5 and sometimes once on the weekend. You can run 100g days 1-3 and 130-140g days 4-5. Or the better option would be S @BritishCanadian mentioned and adding even shorter duration cardio on every lift day. Youll see quicker results with more cardio activity to burn calories every day.

Like @HarleyGuy said though, make sure to keep protein over 200g. While cutting you want to maintain muscle mass.

28g aint that bad. I was running 25g for the last half year til i shofted to 27g. Lol
 
Yea so with an office job you can run lower carbs. Maybe give the 100-120g carb range a try. Not sure what you diets currently like, but you can also go lower as well.

Carb cycling is also an option as i see you only have cardio on day 4/5 and sometimes once on the weekend. You can run 100g days 1-3 and 130-140g days 4-5. Or the better option would be S @BritishCanadian mentioned and adding even shorter duration cardio on every lift day. Youll see quicker results with more cardio activity to burn calories every day.

Like @HarleyGuy said though, make sure to keep protein over 200g. While cutting you want to maintain muscle mass.

28g aint that bad. I was running 25g for the last half year til i shofted to 27g. Lol
Does it matter if it’s subq or intra?
 
Does it matter if it’s subq or intra?
There are a fair amount of guys who run subg but most run IM. The difference is the absorption rate. There is more blood flow and lymphatic drainage in muscle tissue than fat, so the absorption rate is slower in fat tissue. This is fine as the slow rate becomes the normal absoprtion rate and wont effect peak levels or stability.

I honestly find sub q more troublesome. Pinching skin and 45° angles etc etc. i run my oils and peptides both IM. Though on my quads its shallow IM but still.

Another reason to run IM is it takes a few days for carrier oils (depends on carrier) to break down in the body, which is slowed down in fat tissue. Mct oil is the quickest at around 3-5 days. I generally run an 8-10 day rotation where i pin oils in seperate muscles or in cases of large muscles you can get 2 in. I get 4 pins for each thigh (quads) and each side delt currently.

If keep injecting oil into the same spot when the oil hasnt broken down yet, you can end up with an abscess where there is always a pocket of oil and you body will attempt to isolate it. This goes for both IM and subq though.

Also the reason to rotate muscles and not say injection areas on the same muscle, is oil disperses along the direction of the tissue strands mostly.

I would go IM if i were you, but its your preference. Just make sure you allow extra time in between injections before subq oil in the same area again.
 
I do IM for my oil and subq for my peptides. I have never done it in my quads though but i will try. Thanks for the info
I found lateral quad to be less senisitive for myself. Can give your leg a quick flex so you can aim for center mass on the muscles before pinning.

Check here for so guidance
https://trtinjections.com/
Also, is there any bloodwork i can look into if tesa/ipa is working well for me? I honestly want to switch to hgh eventually
Tesa/ipa are both gh secretagogues, hgh is better all around. Especially considering its probably around the same price point.

Since they increase gh in the body, IGF-1 bloodtest will check that.
 
Thanks a lot man . Just a couple of days of being here, I have learned a lot of things. Glad to have people willing to share their knowledge/experience.

So my IGF-1 result can tell me if I'm better off doing secretagogues or hgh? I would like to stay on tesa/ipa if they still do the job. However, due to GH decline cause of aging, I want to know if GH will actually be better for me.
 
Thanks a lot man . Just a couple of days of being here, I have learned a lot of things. Glad to have people willing to share their knowledge/experience.

So my IGF-1 result can tell me if I'm better off doing secretagogues or hgh? I would like to stay on tesa/ipa if they still do the job. However, due to GH decline cause of aging, I want to know if GH will actually be better for me.
No worries bro. Thats what the EVO fam is for.

So the bloodwork will only show elevated IGF-1, and that would vary depending on last dose as the half lifes are very short. The result wont tell you if your better off with one or the other but id proceed to run tesa/ipa until they are done and then switch hgh. No sense wasting them.

Injecting hgh is more efficient (Cost wise as well) than injecting a compound to stimulate the pituitary to release more hgh. Youll get a larger increase in IGF-1 than when you try to get your pituitary to make and release more hgh.

You have to pay for IGF testing though, was $75 in ontario i wouldnt bother with it. Run your tesa/ipa til its done and switch over to hgh.
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
The leg training and the pulling split look fantastic. Keep up the good work. @Ragepotato
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
you got a good base to work with. @Ragepotato now from here its about consistentcy !
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
@Ragepotato its good to see lean and visible abs. from here keep losing body fat! it will help you continue to improve
 
@LevButlerov
I will definitely give more information about my training, diet, and cardio.

I've only been monitoring my protein and calories for my diet for the past months to be honest. But I've got to do what I've got to do to achieve my goals. Expect more details on the coming logs

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep
Creatine Monohydrate - 10g/day (Forgot to include this)

I don't take any digestive supps. Aren't they counterproductive with reta since it slows gastric emptying? (I am not sure). What do you recommend?

These are my initial bloodwork pre TRT. I haven't got a new one yet since I've just started it with a doc. Considering how low my estradiol is, I wanted to try and add Test P for four weeks and see where that takes me.
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View attachment 276314
overall not normal to have low e2, did you have meds you took before or taking? @Ragepotato

lets get more info up about food diet and start adding supps to your list ed please
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
@Ragepotato Keep the log going bro!
 
Training Log 7/27/2026

Steps:

1785210568788.webp

Strength Training:

  1. DB incline chest
1st set 140 lbs 10
2nd set 150 lbs 8
3rd set 160 (attempting PR -success! 6)

2.Pull ups
1st set 8
2nd set 8
3rd set 8 (tried pushing to 9 but failed)
  1. Shoulder Press (Machine)
1st set - 102 lbs 12
2nd set - 152 lbs 10
3rd set - 172 lbs 8
  1. Chest Fly Machine
1st set 160 lbs 12
2nd set 175 lbs 10
3rd set 190 lbs
  1. Lever Row
1st set 115 lbs 12
2nd set 135 lbs 10
3rd set 160 lbs 6 (failed attempt at 7)
  1. Arms

  • Bicep Curl
1st set 100 lbs 12
2nd set 110 lbs 10
3rd set 120 lbs 7 (failed at 8)
  • Tricep pushdown
1st set 45 lbs 12
2nd set 50 lbs 10
3rd set 55 lbs 8ABS
  • Hanging Leg Raises
3 sets of 12
  • Cable Woodchoppers
1st set 40 lbs 12 each side
2nd set 45 lbs 10 each side
3rd set 50 lbs 8 each side

Cardio:

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Training Log 7/27/2026

Steps:

View attachment 276986
Strength Training:

  1. DB incline chest
1st set 140 lbs 10
2nd set 150 lbs 8
3rd set 160 (attempting PR -success! 6)

2.Pull ups
1st set 8
2nd set 8
3rd set 8 (tried pushing to 9 but failed)
  1. Shoulder Press (Machine)
1st set - 102 lbs 12
2nd set - 152 lbs 10
3rd set - 172 lbs 8
  1. Chest Fly Machine
1st set 160 lbs 12
2nd set 175 lbs 10
3rd set 190 lbs
  1. Lever Row
1st set 115 lbs 12
2nd set 135 lbs 10
3rd set 160 lbs 6 (failed attempt at 7)
  1. Arms

  • Bicep Curl
1st set 100 lbs 12
2nd set 110 lbs 10
3rd set 120 lbs 7 (failed at 8)
  • Tricep pushdown
1st set 45 lbs 12
2nd set 50 lbs 10
3rd set 55 lbs 8ABS
  • Hanging Leg Raises
3 sets of 12
  • Cable Woodchoppers
1st set 40 lbs 12 each side
2nd set 45 lbs 10 each side
3rd set 50 lbs 8 each side

Cardio:

View attachment 276990
good volume any drop sets? :D @Ragepotato
macros clean but you cutting?
 
Hello Evo Fam,

I just started my TRT through a telehealth doctor and I'm looking to add something that would maximize my gains. I do not have my bloodwork yet after doing 100 mg of Test E for a month. As another member suggested, I'm planning to add Test P into my TRT cycle and stop it on week 10/11 for my doc's bloodwork. Also doing a steroid panel bloodwork after 4 weeks of adding the Test P into my cycle.

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 173 lbs
Bodyfat: estimated 18%
Training: 2 years
Medical:
Herniated disc 6 months ago (Deadlift)
Cycle History: Recent TRT started July 9, 2026. Test E100mg weekly. and HCG 500 IU 3x a week

Planned Cycle
Adding Test P into the cycle. EOD @25mg initially and will titrate up depending on my steroid panel results.
Adding Primo when it becomes available for more gains.

Diet: 2000 cal/day
170-200 g protein
I don't really take into consideration carbs and fat for as long as I'm in a calorie deficit and enough protein

Supplements:
Pre-workout: ~300 mg daily
EAA - 1 scoop intraworkout
Magnesium - 1 every night to aid with sleep

Peptides:
5 Amino 1 MQ - 10mg / 5x a week
Retatrutide - 4mg /week
Tesamorelin - 2 mg 5x/ week
Ipamorelin - 500 mcg 5x/week
BPC 157 - 500 mcg 5x/week
Mots C - 5mg 3x/week (Did an SS-31 cycle prior doing MOTS-C

Training:
5x/ week at the minimum
Day 1- Push
Day 2 - Pull
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Upper Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes
Day 5 - Lower Body + Abdominals + Zone 2 Treadmill for 30 minutes

If time allows it, I do a one time Zone 5 interval training during the weekend.

Push:
Bench 4 sets. PR - 215 lbs
Incline DB - PR - 170 lbs
Shoulder Press - PR - 135 lbs
Chest Fly - PR - 175 lbs
Lateral Raises (Machine) - PR - 130 lbs
Tricep (I change the workout per week i.e. Skullcrushers, Dips, etc.)

Pull:

Pullups - 7 solid reps from dead hang 4 sets
Row - 4 sets (170 lbs PR)
Single Arm DB Row - 75 lbs each arm 3 sets
Delt Fly - 3 sets (Forgot my PR)
Bicep Curl (Machine) - PR 120 lbs
Hammer Curl -DB - PR 50 lbs ea

Legs:
Barbell Squat 4 sets (PR- 215 lbs)
Leg Press 3 sets (PR - 235 lbs)
Romanian Deadlift 4 sets (PR - 215 lbs)
Leg Extension 3 sets (PR -130 lbs)
Walking Lunges - 3 sets per leg (PR - 100 lbs DB)
Calf Raises - 4 sets @ 405 lbs



First picture for first log

View attachment 276251


GOAL: More lean + visible abs
@Ragepotato good start to log......
 
@LevButlerov

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve never done drop sets to be honest but i will look into it and put it on my training regime. What parts do you think i should put drop sets at?
I would do drop sets for each bodypart :D @Ragepotato
 
Strength Training Log 7/28/2026
1. Hack Squat

• 335 × 8

• 285 × 7

• 245 × 9

• 195 × 13

Total: 37 reps



2. Romanian Deadlift

• 205 × 6

• 185 × 7

• 165 × 9

• 115 × 13

Total: 35 reps



3. DB Step-Ups (per leg)

• 90 × 8

• 75 × 10

• 60 × 13

Total: 31 reps per leg



4. Leg Curl

• 145 × 8

• 130 × 9

• 115 × 11

• 100 × 14

Total: 42 reps



5. Ab Crunch Machine

• 200 × 8

• 190 × 9

• 180 × 11

• 160 × 14

Total: 42 reps



Plank

• 60 sec

• 60 sec

• 60 sec

Total: 180 seconds
 
Strength Training Log 7/28/2026
1. Hack Squat

• 335 × 8

• 285 × 7

• 245 × 9

• 195 × 13

Total: 37 reps



2. Romanian Deadlift

• 205 × 6

• 185 × 7

• 165 × 9

• 115 × 13

Total: 35 reps



3. DB Step-Ups (per leg)

• 90 × 8

• 75 × 10

• 60 × 13

Total: 31 reps per leg



4. Leg Curl

• 145 × 8

• 130 × 9

• 115 × 11

• 100 × 14

Total: 42 reps



5. Ab Crunch Machine

• 200 × 8

• 190 × 9

• 180 × 11

• 160 × 14

Total: 42 reps



Plank

• 60 sec

• 60 sec

• 60 sec

Total: 180 seconds
@LevButlerov I don't know if I did it right. But I tried. :D
 
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