AussieApex - Apex Anabolics - Aus Domestic

[Seventieschild]

Appletree121;250mg test isn't enough for a cycle,start at 300mg then titrate up to 500mg if you have no gyno issues etc, Aussie Apex is excellent choice,there is a pct protocol in the main thread check it out,I never come off,either trt or a blast n cruise till next one so can't help you with pct bro

 

[Shen Long]

Appletree121;250mg test isn't enough for a cycle,start at 300mg then titrate up to 500mg if you have no gyno issues etc, Aussie Apex is excellent choice,there is a pct protocol in the main thread check it out,I never come off,either trt or a blast n cruise till next one so can't help you with pct bro

WTF 250mg of Test is plenty.....

I wouldn't go more than 150mg of Test per week + some other compound [Anavar, Equipoise, Tren etc]

Anything more than 100 - 200mg of Test per week is a waste & will only increase the risk of aromatisation of Test into Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme.

Don't throw away perfectly good Test for no reason

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WTF 250mg of Test is plenty.....

I wouldn't go more than 150mg of Test per week + some other compound [Anavar, Equipoise, Tren etc]

Anything more than 100 - 200mg of Test per week is a waste & will only increase the risk of aromatisation of Test into Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme.

Don't throw away perfectly good Test for no reason

https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/health/how-testosterone-is-made/

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The average male produces around 7mg of Test per day, that's approx 35mg of Test per week...

100mg - 200mg of Test per week is more than sufficient...

Get the rest of your muscle growing from another more viable compound

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49mg of Test per week

 

[Seventieschild]

Shen long;you do you,but 100-200mg even 250 is trt,it's not a cycle and it's his 1st cycle so testosterone only,100-250 mg will put you at high normal only,your math is only that,it doesn't work like that bro,even at 250mg you lose certain amount to the ester weight,don't waste test,what you talking about,running a cycle on 100-200mg is exactly a waste,it's trt or at best a cruise,but not a cycle,do a blast right,aromatization,pffft,I run 750 test no air no high estrogen,well higher but not gyno high,but we all different that's why I say start t 300 n go up to 500,remember it's 1st cycle so blast test only,don't advice him to take orals,most toxic shit on 1st cycle,or add other compounds he don't even know how he responds to test yet.calm down girlfriend.your advice is shit,you would have him on orals and EQ or tren as a better viable compound,wow,test is best brothers.

 

[FeAr_mE]

Hey guys, I currently want to go on my very first test cycle for 8-12 weeks on 250mg/ml. I am very new to this and need some advice. Do I need a PCT, if so which one? Is AussieApex reliable, do they have quality tested products?

Best to ask cycle advice on your own thread bud, you will get more help, I only asked about pip pain here as I know these guys are using Apex gear and he's away atm.

FYI if you're asking do you need a pct I don't think you're ready for a cycle. I suggest read the forums and do more research

 

[Shen Long]

Shen long;you do you,but 100-200mg even 250 is trt,it's not a cycle and it's his 1st cycle so testosterone only,100-250 mg will put you at high normal only,your math is only that,it doesn't work like that bro,even at 250mg you lose certain amount to the ester weight,don't waste test,what you talking about,running a cycle on 100-200mg is exactly a waste,it's trt or at best a cruise,but not a cycle,do a blast right,aromatization,pffft,I run 750 test no air no high estrogen,well higher but not gyno high,but we all different that's why I say start t 300 n go up to 500,remember it's 1st cycle so blast test only,don't advice him to take orals,most toxic shit on 1st cycle,or add other compounds he don't even know how he responds to test yet.calm down girlfriend.your advice is shit,you would have him on orals and EQ or tren as a better viable compound,wow,test is best brothers.

Bro, im not going to argue with you...

TRT = Test Replacement Therapy = 50mg per week

doing 100 - 200mg of Test per week is 2 - 4 times the TRT amount.

Adding Anavar [being the most well-tolerated & less toxic oral] is not a bad idea as Anavar gains last much longer than Test gains [when stacking that is] & the stack doesn't have to be huuuuuuuge

Look, in the "gear world" nothing is absolute & everyone responds differently

All I'm doing is offering my opinion & running high Test 250+ p/w in my honest opinion is purely a waste of time & money [& Test]
The benefits are short-lived

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I would start off with 100 - 150mg of Test p/w along with 20 - 40mg of Anavar p/d [split 10/10 - 20/20]

That is a nice & safe starting point & the gains would remain well after PCT

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With the above as a start off point, the newbie will also get the "feel" of the various compounds in a safe environment [i.e. not huuuuge numbers]

 

[Seventieschild]

Shrn long;brother your info is completely incorrect,50mg per week for trt ours you well below normal range,it doesn't work that way,as you say 49mg per week natural secretion,yeah but 50 mg of exogenous testosterone will put your levels way low,hence why trt is from 140 mg up to 250 depending on the individual,research this bro you will find that 50mg per week is not enough to run on trt,it would put you in range of about 200ng/dc,below normal 140-250 will usually put you around 600ng/dc to 900,then you go above 250 on cycle to be upwards of 700/900,you want to be atleast 2000ng/DC up to 4500ng/DC for a blast,regardless of other compounds,and Anavar won't give longer term gains than injectables,orals just won't,they will pump you up,give great vascularity,but to hold mass you must run trt at the top end on a cruise,theses are just facts bro,not an opinion,50 mg is so silly to think that is trt,it will depleted your levels while shutting you down.

 

[Seventieschild]

And not a good idea to run more than test to get the feel of different compounds cause he won't know what the fuck is what,you run test only 1st cycle,hell you can run whatever but logic says run test,then add one compound next time,one at a time till you know what every compound does for you,how you tolerate all of them and then stack but that's way down the line,slowly slowly,it's a journey not a sprint,and stop watching you tubers that say 250 test is a cycle,never was never is never will be,150-250 mg is not 4 times the dose of trt,it is trt not 50 mg bro.ask others on here that are veterans of the anabolic game,they will educate you in the same way .forget Derek and Greg and Steve,they are knowledgeable,but full of shit .

 

[Shen Long]

And not a good idea to run more than test to get the feel of different compounds cause he won't know what the fuck is what,you run test only 1st cycle,hell you can run whatever but logic says run test,then add one compound next time,one at a time till you know what every compound does for you,how you tolerate all of them and then stack but that's way down the line,slowly slowly,it's a journey not a sprint,and stop watching you tubers that say 250 test is a cycle,never was never is never will be,150-250 mg is not 4 times the dose of trt,it is trt not 50 mg bro.ask others on here that are veterans of the anabolic game,they will educate you in the same way .forget Derek and Greg and Steve,they are knowledgeable,but full of shit .

you're confusing TRT numbers with "gains" numbers... they're 2 different kettle's

The average human male produces around 50mg of Test per week, this is what he produces & out of that 50mg, some of it is waste [not used &/or converted into Estrogen] while the other is used purposefully.

I've run 100mg of Test per week with ZERO ill side effects & i've always let the "stacking" compound [Tren, VAR, Bold etc] do the muscle building work.

Anyhting more than 100mg doesnt mean it wont get used but in my opinion, its just a waste of Test, money & time.

I've also done 300mg+ of Test [as a beginner] where I got gains but those gains were short-lived.

In any case, i'm just saying what i believe to be "correct" - it doesnt mean that another scenario cant be "correct" either.

 

[Shen Long]

Also don't forget, the Test hormone needs to attach itself to the glycoprotein SHBG &/or albumin for it to be purposeful in acting as a muscle-building compound...

So even if you blast 1000mg Test p/w, you need a certain amount of SHBG & albumin for the Test to attach itself to so that it can actually work as it's meant to work.

So again, too much Test [200mg or more p/w] in my honest opinion is a complete waste of time, money & exogenous Test.

There's plenty of information on this website...
https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/health/how-testosterone-is-made/
https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/health/normal-testosterone-levels/

 

[Seventieschild]

Shen long;the problem here is you are presenting opinion,where as im presenting facts,big diff,I'm not confusing trt with gains numbers,that don't even make sense,I will say it one more time for you,science has proved that 50mg exogenous testosterone will put you below range,just because man may produce 50mg of endogenous testosterone don't make it that 50mg of exogenous testosterone is equal to that,your confused yourself or not educated on this matter correctly.amyways we've highjacked this thread will close off with this here.no one would advise what you are for a first time cycle or anytime for that matter,it's not bad advice so much as incorrect advice.have a blessed day.facts and science trump opinion or anecdotal experience.

 

[Seventieschild]

That isn't a defence for saying 50mg of exogenous testosterone is trt and that 200mg is 4 time more than trt,you are just quoting directly off a study written that means nothing,that study is common knowledge among us vets,the rest is only your opinion,if that works for you then that's fine but it's not good advice.seems you are set on your anecdotal experience I don't know how you would feel so great on 50mg of test,then say run EQ which would crush your estrogen,there's reasons we use testosterone dosed at certain amounts especially when combining with other anabolics.anyways I'm over this dead end conversation.have a good day.

 

[Justo0705]

That isn't a defence for saying 50mg of exogenous testosterone is trt and that 200mg is 4 time more than trt,you are just quoting directly off a study written that means nothing,that study is common knowledge among us vets,the rest is only your opinion,if that works for you then that's fine but it's not good advice.seems you are set on your anecdotal experience I don't know how you would feel so great on 50mg of test,then say run EQ which would crush your estrogen,there's reasons we use testosterone dosed at certain amounts especially when combining with other anabolics.anyways I'm over this dead end conversation.have a good day.

I have to admit, I would much rather blast a high dose as my first cycle and be sure that I’m making gains, then to underdose and be depressed with my results by the end of cycle. I don’t believe someone can say that too much test is a waste for any individual, especially if that person has naturally low testosterone production or hasn’t even had blood tests done prior to find out. I personally didn’t respond to test on my first cycle until I hit the high end doses. And this cycle I wont bother going any less than my highest dose last cycle. Currently on 600mg test e a week with a dbol stack and I feel fucking amazing bro. Huge pumps and gains coming in. I say go hard or go home. Oh and make sure you eat well. Happy gains brothers!!

 

[Shen Long]

That isn't a defence for saying 50mg of exogenous testosterone is trt and that 200mg is 4 time more than trt,you are just quoting directly off a study written that means nothing,that study is common knowledge among us vets,the rest is only your opinion,if that works for you then that's fine but it's not good advice.seems you are set on your anecdotal experience I don't know how you would feel so great on 50mg of test,then say run EQ which would crush your estrogen,there's reasons we use testosterone dosed at certain amounts especially when combining with other anabolics.anyways I'm over this dead end conversation.have a good day.

everyone thinks more is best, that's their opinion...

You are right, 50mg of Exo Test p/w doesn't mean that 100% of it will be utilised.

That is also to say that 50mg of Endo Test p/w doesn't mean that 100% of it will also be utilised.

100 - 200mg of Exo Test p/w is satisfactory enough to be above TRT levels & experience "gains" without the unnecessary wastage of Exo Test.

Adding a 2nd compound will allow the body to use "get" the gains from the 2nd compound rather than the base compound being Exo Test.
250mg of Bold, 50mg of Var, 250mg of Tren etc etc

When you're talking about "slow & steady" gains & not the "sprint" then that's the way to go...

Keeping in mind that the body will also recover quicker from PCT than when compared to "high dosages".

If you're a VET then shove that Exo Test up a male or female dogs ass & see how it reacts.

I've heard people running 500+ Exo Test & i can't help but wonder how their brains [thought process believing they're doing justice to themselves] actually function.
That's also alongside their stacking compounds

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I have to admit, I would much rather blast a high dose as my first cycle and be sure that I’m making gains, then to underdose and be depressed with my results by the end of cycle. I don’t believe someone can say that too much test is a waste for any individual, especially if that person has naturally low testosterone production or hasn’t even had blood tests done prior to find out. I personally didn’t respond to test on my first cycle until I hit the high end doses. And this cycle I wont bother going any less than my highest dose last cycle. Currently on 600mg test e a week with a dbol stack and I feel fucking amazing bro. Huge pumps and gains coming in. I say go hard or go home. Oh and make sure you eat well. Happy gains brothers!!

No offence mate, you do that & see how you may or may not react to "roid rage"

You're adding a considerable "extra" amount of Test into your body & you won't have the slightest idea of how your brain & body may react.

Seventieschild says "slow & steady" but actually his mentality is "fast & furious"

 

[Shen Long]

P.S.
DBol is fake crap, instant strength & a waste of money...

There is no real purpose to DBol unless you're at a really low-calorie deficit & you need that extra strength to continue making gains from your 2nd compound [Bold, Tren, Var etc]
By this stage [12+ weeks], you'd be drying/leaning out anyways so you're probably on a 3rd compound like Stana/Mast to assist with the leaning process.

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That isn't a defence for saying 50mg of exogenous testosterone is trt and that 200mg is 4 time more than trt,you are just quoting directly off a study written that means nothing,that study is common knowledge among us vets,the rest is only your opinion,if that works for you then that's fine but it's not good advice.seems you are set on your anecdotal experience I don't know how you would feel so great on 50mg of test,then say run EQ which would crush your estrogen,there's reasons we use testosterone dosed at certain amounts especially when combining with other anabolics.anyways I'm over this dead end conversation.have a good day.

P.S.
i wouldnt run 50mg of Exo Test, i would be running 100 - 200mg p/w of Exo Test. This is all the body requires to "correctly function".

I would & do rely on the 2nd/3rd etc compound to assist with the gains & leaning process.

 

[srki2000]

Hi AussieApex,

I am tried contacting you via Threema ID: YKC9FSDY (preferred)

and

Wickr: AussieApex

for a while to get your latest product list can you please tell me if your contact details have changed from the listed above?

regards

 

[Justo0705]

everyone thinks more is best, that's their opinion...

You are right, 50mg of Exo Test p/w doesn't mean that 100% of it will be utilised.

That is also to say that 50mg of Endo Test p/w doesn't mean that 100% of it will also be utilised.

100 - 200mg of Exo Test p/w is satisfactory enough to be above TRT levels & experience "gains" without the unnecessary wastage of Exo Test.

Adding a 2nd compound will allow the body to use "get" the gains from the 2nd compound rather than the base compound being Exo Test.
250mg of Bold, 50mg of Var, 250mg of Tren etc etc

When you're talking about "slow & steady" gains & not the "sprint" then that's the way to go...

Keeping in mind that the body will also recover quicker from PCT than when compared to "high dosages".

If you're a VET then shove that Exo Test up a male or female dogs ass & see how it reacts.

I've heard people running 500+ Exo Test & i can't help but wonder how their brains [thought process believing they're doing justice to themselves] actually function.
That's also alongside their stacking compounds

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No offence mate, you do that & see how you may or may not react to "roid rage"

You're adding a considerable "extra" amount of Test into your body & you won't have the slightest idea of how your brain & body may react.

Seventieschild says "slow & steady" but actually his mentality is "fast & furious"

Sorry bud but you’re in no position to tell me how my body reacts to what I put in it. I take care in what I do and take precautions. I feel fine and monitor myself daily. Stop providing your input on what is and isn’t good for other people. Only those people can be the judge of that. Not you. Plenty of experts out there will call bs on the claims you have here. Only side effects I’m having is progress in the gym hahha. Peace out

 

[0x5F3759DF]

Ordered & paid two weeks ago to this very day (before Apex put out their urgent notice), got the confirmation that payment went through. Easy process.
Notified again immediately after their Threema ID change & asked again yesterday for an update on the state of the order, as I can't be sure if it's been sent or not - haven't received a definitive reply yet.

I'll wait a while longer so as not to be a nuisance to them, as they're probably quite busy

 

[Shen Long]

Sorry bud but you’re in no position to tell me how my body reacts to what I put in it. I take care in what I do and take precautions. I feel fine and monitor myself daily. Stop providing your input on what is and isn’t good for other people. Only those people can be the judge of that. Not you. Plenty of experts out there will call bs on the claims you have here. Only side effects I’m having is progress in the gym hahha. Peace out

Exactly my point, your body, youre monitoring it...

That is NOT to say that if you were to cycle [hypothetically] at 150mg Exo Test p/w + 300mg Tren p/w you would have adverse or negative effects...
It is also not to say that with the above cycle you would not "see" or "make" any decent gains.

My opinion is not flawed, your lack of objectivity & subjectivity is flawed. You have alot of money to throw at compounds that in the long run you're just not able to utilise wholly.

A person who weighs [example] 75KG's doesnt require 300mg of Exo Test

A person who weights 105KG's [resonably fit] more than likely would require more than 150mg of Exo Test

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Your argument is 250mg of Exo Test is not TRT - doesnt make sense

 

[Justo0705]

Exactly my point, your body, youre monitoring it...

That is NOT to say that if you were to cycle [hypothetically] at 150mg Exo Test p/w + 300mg Tren p/w you would have adverse or negative effects...
It is also not to say that with the above cycle you would not "see" or "make" any decent gains.

My opinion is not flawed, your lack of objectivity & subjectivity is flawed. You have alot of money to throw at compounds that in the long run you're just not able to utilise wholly.

A person who weighs [example] 75KG's doesnt require 300mg of Exo Test

A person who weights 105KG's [resonably fit] more than likely would require more than 150mg of Exo Test

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Your argument is 250mg of Exo Test is not TRT - doesnt make sense

Whatever you just rambled on about sounds like something copied out of a textbook. Unless you’ve been pumping PEDS your whole life, I don’t see how you could gain all that knowledge from personal experience of using gear. All the research I have done (wich was alot) states that anything less than 250mg test alone isnt enough to gain substantial muscle mass long term over a cycle. Wich leads to anything less than that being trt dose. If you want proof of this, Go look up Paul Barnett on YouTube, he has an anabolic channel about all this stuff. I think this will broaden up your perspective a little.

Otherwise if you have any cycle logs of your own to prove this theory I’d love to see them, just to prove myself wrong. Not that I’m saying you’re full of shit, but I’d be personally interested to see how such low doses can bring significant gains like your saying.

 

[Seventieschild]

I'm glad you chimed in justo,tried to educate this fool who dilusional rambling about 50 mg is trt cause the body produces average of 49mg,everything he said to me was just same,quoted of a book or a bullshit study,told him many times it don't work like that but he argue the whole way he's right,after I gave good advice to a newbie he bangs on with outrageous bullshit advice like you said,why bother and be disappointed.shen long is Gronk..

 

[Seventieschild]

I will say it,Shen long you have no clue,30years of training and peds experience,and you try tell me opinions over facts,that's all you haf was opinions,tell me what my mentality is,yours is uneducated on peds and I'll informed with little experience from what you preach that's evident.some fooks can't be educated,use a little juice,watch you tube and quote outdated and fake studies,all of a sudden they give the worst advice with nothing factual to back it except 'in my opinion '.that don't trump facts or experience.

 

[Justo0705]

I'm glad you chimed in justo,tried to educate this fool who dilusional rambling about 50 mg is trt cause the body produces average of 49mg,everything he said to me was just same,quoted of a book or a bullshit study,told him many times it don't work like that but he argue the whole way he's right,after I gave good advice to a newbie he bangs on with outrageous bullshit advice like you said,why bother and be disappointed.shen long is Gronk..

I have no idea where he has gotten this info from, everywhere over this forum are posts and threads from experienced lifters (including posts I’ve seen from yourself) about correct dosing and good advice and tips for newbies.

So much to read and learn from other people’s experience over this forum and the internet itself.

All I can say to the other newbies is do your research and don’t listen to random advice like this, look for trusted people who know what they are talking about, search the internet and learn. And if you fuck it up yourself that’s ok, try again till you get it right and perfect it. Just do it safely and turn to the older and wiser generations (the veteran lifters) for advice on anything you may need help with.

Everyone is happy to help. They most certainly helped me on this thread. Even Apex himself gave me guidance and was happy to help me build a stack for cycle.

 

[MassiveSparky]

You cunts need to start a new thread as you are making it hard to find info and posts about what this thread was started for, it about aussie apex gear not shen long and his 50mg test a week for gains haha

 

[Justo0705]

You cunts need to start a new thread as you are making it hard to find info and posts about what this thread was started for, it about aussie apex gear not shen long and his 50mg test a week for gains haha

That is a good point. No need for the thread though, I think we can end it here haha. Sorry Apex brother!

 

[Shen Long]

I will say it,Shen long you have no clue,30years of training and peds experience,and you try tell me opinions over facts,that's all you haf was opinions,tell me what my mentality is,yours is uneducated on peds and I'll informed with little experience from what you preach that's evident.some fooks can't be educated,use a little juice,watch you tube and quote outdated and fake studies,all of a sudden they give the worst advice with nothing factual to back it except 'in my opinion '.that don't trump facts or experience.

It's only "no clue" to you because you're white privilege who has plenty of coin to waste on "gear" that just gets pissed out or converted into Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme...

Test needs to bind to SHBG &/or Albumin [With the exception of Free bound Test]
you can gas 100mg or you can gas 1000mg it makes not one bit of difference if the Test doesn't bind to a receptor such as SHBG or Albumin.

Free Test is exactly that "Free" it doesnt bind to anything & will for the most part convert into Estrogen...

If your car has a 50L fuel tank, you trying to inject 100L isn't going to make it use 100L
You would be just wasting 50L for nothing

But again, idiots with no brains & understanding of science, the way the human body works & uses [utlilises] hormones have no idea.
Much more is better than much less - Thats great for the supplier but unfortunately bad for the buyer/user in so many different ways...

In either case, i'm not trying to tell anyone "how to use" or "what to use", just saying everyone's on the wrong path when it comes to "use" & "abuse"

And a person who weighs 70KG's would need a differing amount of Test than a person who weighs 100KG's

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You cunts need to start a new thread as you are making it hard to find info and posts about what this thread was started for, it about aussie apex gear not shen long and his 50mg test a week for gains haha

Ha haaa haaaaaa

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shen long is Gronk..

The fact that you know & use the word "Gronk" just goes to say or show that you're most likely from Mt Druitt or Blacktown & your mum's most likely an eshay bruh

So in this case, i'd rather be a "gronk" than a retard like you who actually uses the word "Gronk"

 

[Shen Long]

I will say it,Shen long you have no clue,30years of training and peds experience,and you try tell me opinions over facts,that's all you haf was opinions,tell me what my mentality is,yours is uneducated on peds and I'll informed with little experience from what you preach that's evident.some fooks can't be educated,use a little juice,watch you tube and quote outdated and fake studies,all of a sudden they give the worst advice with nothing factual to back it except 'in my opinion '.that don't trump facts or experience.

Sorry bro, i forgot your mum's a VET who loves to "feel up" animals

 

[Shen Long]

I have no idea where he has gotten this info from, everywhere over this forum are posts and threads from experienced lifters (including posts I’ve seen from yourself) about correct dosing and good advice and tips for newbies.

Every person, every stage of bodybuilding is different from the other.

Not 1 advice is more correct than the other piece of advice.

People also have different objectives [goals] & use compounds differently to get what they want [the end result].

If you think that the study i've linked [https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/health/how-testosterone-is-made/] is incorrect or outdated then think again...

This is a perfect study to understand the basics of how the body functions "normally" - once you start adding Chems/Compounds then you're basically moving away from this basic information.

How you decide to "Gas" is entirely up to you, your weight, your goals, bulk vs. shred etc

How long you've been "Gassing" also plays a huge role...

Mate i would use the above link as a "guideline" to how the body functions under normal conditions & then make "decisions" about compounds with that information as a baseline.

If you're going to listen to a "veteran" PEDS [Pedo] like 70's_child, he's got 30 years of "mental abuse" under his belt...

I would personally stay well clear from him & any info he has to offer.

He's probably on constant "bridging" cycles because he doesnt want to deflate from the 30 years of roid abuse he's put his mind, body & soul through...

 

[Shen Long]

Also, most likely 70's_Child is most likely "gay" too [& i hold no disrespect to gay people], but he's probably trying to groom you [Just my opinion]
It seems forums are sites for stalkers & idiots who just want to abuse people with "woke" ideas about Compounds & "Gear"

You will not be at any disadvantage using 100 - 150mg of Test as a base for your first - 5th cycle & stacking this compound with a muscles building compound like "Tren", "Bold" "Anavar" etc
but use reasonable amounts & don't aim too high - just let your body get use to the Compounds first.

 

[RuMirin]

Hey guys first timer on here and looking for good Aussie source if you can help.
Have been getting and using from local guy for some time now but want to try someone else to compare quality price etc. and noticed Apex is the go but some guys have ordered lately with no product yet.
Any info of someone reliable with top products would appreciate.

 

[Seventieschild]

RuMirin;nothing wrong with apex,he took a week off recently,had posted the dates,I would say that's the only reason guys may have waited for package,hit him up bro his products are good to go brother.thrers other options on here though apex is a good choice.

 

[RuMirin]

Hey bro have tried your Threema and doesn’t work. Are you still around?

 

[Seventieschild]

He should be back on next day or so,around the 20th he was going away for a week but not taking orders for 10 days or so,that's about passed now so hopefully Monday or Tuesday he will be back on.thats just what I've read few pages back bro

 

[Clenhard]

He should be back on next day or so,around the 20th he was going away for a week but not taking orders for 10 days or so,that's about passed now so hopefully Monday or Tuesday he will be back on.thats just what I've read few pages back bro

He's back brother, placed an order through the legend yesterday.

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Another order done with Apex the legend. Hassle free and on point communication made it an absolute breeze. Best Ugl gear in aus hands down. Cheers apex brother.

 

[Evan164]

Sent a message through Threema 3 days ago, haven't heard back. Hopefully hear something soon..

 

[Pigsy]

Sent a message through Threema 3 days ago, haven't heard back. Hopefully hear something soon..

If your new buyer to Apex you need a recommendation from someone on here who has brought of him before

 

[Seventieschild]

No worries, thanks heaps for your help bro appreciate it!
Will post an update once I receive my order and bloodwork to follow

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Great to see everyone putting up their experience with us. We are doing our best to make sure everyone has a good experience!! Plenty of quality labs getting around at the moment which is great.

UPDATE: Primo E and Anavar both had Raw supply issues from China. Alot of the precursor materials believe it or not come from Eastern Europe so given the state of that place it has had a knock on effect into China’s supply.

We will be fully stocked in both again in 12-15 days.

Thanks again to everyone who has supported us!!

- To give back to forum for the exposure it has given us, we will be giving away a $1,000 store credit!!!

To enter simply write a comment on this thread relating to either your experience with us or what you would like to see us stock between now and Tuesday the 11th of April at Midnight!

I will enter all of the names into a random generator and announce the winner on Wednesday the 12th!!!

Easy as 1,2,3

Cheers legends

Awesome brother. I start my blast tomorrow. Hgh 4ius, test E 500mg, tren E 400mg, EQ 400mg. Looking forward to big push to stage

He's back brother, placed an order through the legend yesterday.

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Another order done with Apex the legend. Hassle free and on point communication made it an absolute breeze. Best Ugl gear in aus hands down. Cheers apex brother.

Good news,placing order next couple of days,been on cruise for a while,looking forward to this next cycle.

 

[Evan164]

If your new buyer to Apex you need a recommendation from someone on here who has brought of him before

Ugh, would have been nice that had been in his first post...

 

[Evan164]

So, please forgive my ignorance but how does one get a recommendation to a new seller if they don't know any of the other buyers on this thread?

 

[Shen Long]

Good news,placing order next couple of days,been on cruise for a while,looking forward to this next cycle.

What did i say.... Bridging, doesnt want to deflate like a balloon.

 

[MassiveSparky]

Can you read

What did i say.... Bridging, doesnt want to deflate like a balloon.

Go look a the thread started for you and stay off apex thread you cock smoker

 

[Shen Long]

Go look a the thread started for you and stay off apex thread you cock smoker

where????

send me link>

 

[RuMirin]

Thanks for the heads up bro. One of my gym bros ordered a few hundred bucks off him 2 weeks ago and hasn’t received it yet. Apex didn’t mention about a recommendation. Any suggestions to help him out and also for my orders? Cheers

 

[Troy643]

Hey guys,

Messaged APEX on Threema a few weeks ago (two), but haven't got any responses. New buyer but looking to get some off him.

Apparently I need a reference from someone who has bought before from a previous update in this thread. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Clenhard]

Good news,placing order next couple of days,been on cruise for a while,looking forward to this next cycle.

Nice bro, what do you plan on running next cycle?

 

[0x5F3759DF]

Thanks for the heads up bro. One of my gym bros ordered a few hundred bucks off him 2 weeks ago and hasn’t received it yet. Apex didn’t mention about a recommendation. Any suggestions to help him out and also for my orders? Cheers

The new rules (requiring a recommendation) was implemented on the 24th; I assume everyone who had messaged Apex prior to this point are exempt from the requirement (it wouldn't make sense, since i'd already paid him at this point). I believe the requirement is only for new customers and people who didn't get the memo.

That said, I'm a bit disappointed at the lack of communication especially since I can see confirmation that my messages are being read.
I also find it interesting that one forum member here is stating they're "on break", but contradicted by a message just a day earlier from someone proclaiming they placed an order with Apex effortlessly. Which one is it? Are they taking orders but not shipping?

I would withhold making any new orders until they clear the air.

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Couldn't edit post so here's an addendum: Apex switched to a different Threema ID after the 24th. The new contact info was detailed in the memo, if you got it, then you got it. If you don't, I assume the only way to get it is via referral.

 

[0x5F3759DF]

Addendum 2: Not even 20 minutes later the postie arrives with an express package - Apex delivers!

 

[Troy643]

Hmm, very strange.

I messaged him on the 17th and never got a response. Clearly before the 24th..

Any help or suggestions?

 

[fp1006]

How does one get a recommendation?

Received product list back in March.

Looking to place first order if anyone can assist

 

[Endofautumn]

What sort of timeline was that on bro I’m over two weeks now just got home and checked the box and still nothing

 

[RuMirin]

0x5F3759DF… good to hear you got your order bro. My mate said he ordered on 16th April via his proton account and his comms were on point and thought he was legit so he didn’t hesitate did the right thing by him and put an order and paid up in same day. Apex said it would go out the next day Monday 17th and he’s still waiting. If only he’d respond back and let the guys know what’s the hold up then all would be sweet. Just strange how his comms are good up until you order and pay then goes into hiding

 

[Clenhard]

0x5F3759DF… good to hear you got your order bro. My mate said he ordered on 16th April via his proton account and his comms were on point and thought he was legit so he didn’t hesitate did the right thing by him and put an order and paid up in same day. Apex said it would go out the next day Monday 17th and he’s still waiting. If only he’d respond back and let the guys know what’s the hold up then all would be sweet. Just strange how his comms are good up until you order and pay then goes into hiding

You need to take in account public holidays, I'm sure it will arrive just have a bit of patience.

 

[RuMirin]

You need to take in account public holidays, I'm sure it will arrive just have a bit of patience.

It’s just strange that some say it arrived in a couple of days so don’t know what to believe. The other weird thing is that this is Apex thread and he was quite active earlier on and hasn’t appeared on here for ages

 

[Kurobigg]

Ordered a bunch of ancillaries last Wednesday and was delivered yesterday with great packaging and service as per usual.
Apex is 100% back on deck.

Unsure why some of you guys haven’t received your orders yet, but I’m sure there’s a perfectly good reason.

Couple weeks into the blast now and getting crazy night sweats. Thought you only got that from tren but have read that good quality test and deca can do that also..
either way feeling killer and keen to see the results from this.

Cheers again apex

 

[MassiveSparky]

Dudes never heard of Australia post

It’s just strange that some say it arrived in a couple of days so don’t know what to believe. The other weird thing is that this is Apex thread and he was quite active earlier on and hasn’t appeared on here for ages

Australia post will be delivering the parcel and its completley out of apex control. Some of my orders arrive within a few days, some within a couple of weeks and some didnt. When I contacted apex to let him know i didnt receive the package it was resent with no questions asked and no issues. Just be paitient.

 

[FeAr_mE]

Thanks for the heads up bro. One of my gym bros ordered a few hundred bucks off him 2 weeks ago and hasn’t received it yet. Apex didn’t mention about a recommendation. Any suggestions to help him out and also for my orders? Cheers

Your friend should have got a msg from him saying he was going quiet for a week and all orders will be halted. hes back online now and orders are currently being filled.

best bet try apex again. i had mine with 3 days. Some shipments just take longer

 

[Clenhard]

Australia post will be delivering the parcel and its completley out of apex control. Some of my orders arrive within a few days, some within a couple of weeks and some didnt. When I contacted apex to let him know i didnt receive the package it was resent with no questions asked and no issues. Just be paitient.

100% bro people are acting like apex is the postie delivering it or some shit lmao.

 

[Seventieschild]

Apex order and comms are a breeze,looking forward to this next cycle bros

 

[Troy643]

Apex order and comms are a breeze,looking forward to this next cycle bros

Can someone please put me through to him or give me a reference etc?
Messaged him on the 17th of April with no response on Threema.

 

[fp1006]

Can someone please put me through to him or give me a reference etc?
Messaged him on the 17th of April with no response on Threema.

I am needing the same as no response on Threema

 

[Seventieschild]

Nice bro, what do you plan on running next cycle?

Test and deca bro,simple but effective

 

[Pigsy]

Test and deca bro,simple but effective

Always better to stick with what you know works for you. This is where experience counts. Don't just jump on any shit you don't know how your going to respond to

 

[Clenhard]

Test and deca bro,simple but effective

Gotta love a test and deca cycle aye. Its gotta be one of my favourite stacks

 

[FeAr_mE]

I am needing the same as no response on Threema

His threema ID has changed,

ts going to be hard to get a reference if people dont know you, as its their ass on the line also.

hope you find someone who can vouch for you

 

[Troy643]

His threema ID has changed,

ts going to be hard to get a reference if people dont know you, as its their ass on the line also.

hope you find someone who can vouch for you

Not sure how I'm going to go about this.
I've purchased off OzPharm with no issues in the past but just want to make sure I have more than one source as I'm looking at blasting and cruising and want some reliable for a long time for obvious reasons.

If anyone can vouch for me, or wants me to do something in order to get that. Very happy to oblige...
Or any direction from anyone?

Thanks in advance legends

 

[dennisthewolf]

Did he send out new details to customers? I've got his list (threema) from March and went to make an order last week and now his threema is gone. I didn't get a message about a new threema account though. I need survival..... I'm torturing myself looking at this list 4 times a day and not being able to order. AussieApex, I think you may have missed sending me a threema update....

 

[Troy643]

Did he send out new details to customers? I've got his list (threema) from March and went to make an order last week and now his threema is gone. I didn't get a message about a new threema account though. I need survival..... I'm torturing myself looking at this list 4 times a day and not being able to order. AussieApex, I think you may have missed sending me a threema update....

I'm in the same boat mate. Checking this thread constantly for updates haha

 

[Clenhard]

Did he send out new details to customers? I've got his list (threema) from March and went to make an order last week and now his threema is gone. I didn't get a message about a new threema account though. I need survival..... I'm torturing myself looking at this list 4 times a day and not being able to order. AussieApex, I think you may have missed sending me a threema update....

Unless you have previously purchased from apex then you don't get sent his updated threema.

 

[fp1006]

His threema ID has changed,

ts going to be hard to get a reference if people dont know you, as its their ass on the line also.

hope you find someone who can vouch for you

New to forum so that's not going to be easy.

Have ordered from OzPharm, but have seen some products from Apex that I would like to purchase as well.

If there is anyway to give information needed for someone to be confident enough to then give reference I am more than willing.

 

[Ipad]

I am previous customer but didn't get his new Threema

 

[Clenhard]

I am previous customer but didn't get his new Threema

Don't wanna say doubt it but I doubt it bruzz lmao.

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New to forum so that's not going to be easy.

Have ordered from OzPharm, but have seen some products from Apex that I would like to purchase as well.

If there is anyway to give information needed for someone to be confident enough to then give reference I am more than willing.

Nah bruzz at the end of the day any referral that ends up being a suss cunt or a genuine time waster comes straight back to the referee. I'm sure many of the lads on here that has dealt with apex doesn't want to take that risk for both parties... sorry mate.

 

[Troy643]

Don't wanna say doubt it but I doubt it bruzz lmao.

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Nah bruzz at the end of the day any referral that ends up being a suss cunt or a genuine time waster comes straight back to the referee. I'm sure many of the lads on here that has dealt with apex doesn't want to take that risk for both parties... sorry mate.

If anyone wants to help me out, let me know.
Happy to show chats with other known reps on the forum to vouch for me.

Thanks

 

[Seventieschild]

Hard to help these guys out,I feel for them but some just new to forum some not so new though no posts or reviews about prior sources or purchases,say been with Oz but nothing mentioned of him in their posts or any other source that we know.

 

[Theminser]

Anyone able to vouch for me? Haven’t posted much on here but done one order through oz (first ever steroid purchase) and am still using that order. I’m happy to use oz but super interested in that Bulk500 apex had listed last time I spoke to him. If no one’s able to vouch for me I’m completely fine with that will just try hunt that down elsewhere

 

[Troy643]

Hard to help these guys out,I feel for them but some just new to forum some not so new though no posts or reviews about prior sources or purchases,say been with Oz but nothing mentioned of him in their posts or any other source that we know.

Only recently found the forum if I'm completely honest and fairly new to gear even though I've been training for a few years!

Only dealt with the OzPharm rep OG through Threema who was a legend and sorted me out but just wanted to see what Apex had in stock and to have a second source so I've always got an option if stuff is out stock etc.
Happy to show the conversations between Oz and I.
He's a great bloke and has been very helpful with the process.

If not, unsure how I'll ever get a reference from Apex. Do I just remain active here and hope for one in the future?

 

[Shen Long]

Hard to help these guys out,I feel for them but some just new to forum some not so new though no posts or reviews about prior sources or purchases,say been with Oz but nothing mentioned of him in their posts or any other source that we know.

C'mon 70's_Child, are your predatory grooming skills starting to lack???
Is all that Estrogen getting to your head???

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C'mon 70's_Child, are your predatory grooming skills starting to lack???
Is all that Estrogen getting to your head???

Shen Long now lives "next door to 70's_Child"

 

[Seventieschild]

Fuck off back to your thread dog this is apex thread have some respect you piece of shit,the guys made you a thread to fuck you off from everywhere else cunt,estrogen is neural protective you crush yours that's why nothing you say makes sense or adds up,see through you bitch.too your thread cunt this is for apex reviews n customers,you wouldn't survive next door to me.have respect for members n this forum kid.

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Make yourself usefully n give these guys a referral,oh that's right your out of the loop,lol

 

[Seventieschild]

Only recently found the forum if I'm completely honest and fairly new to gear even though I've been training for a few years!

Only dealt with the OzPharm rep OG through Threema who was a legend and sorted me out but just wanted to see what Apex had in stock and to have a second source so I've always got an option if stuff is out stock etc.
Happy to show the conversations between Oz and I.
He's a great bloke and has been very helpful with the process.

If not, unsure how I'll ever get a reference from Apex. Do I just remain active here and hope for one in the future?

Brother I sent you a pm,your the only one asking for referal that has put up a review for another source on here,counts for something, so I may be willing to refer you.dont think you can send back pm with less than 50 posts.check it n go from there brother.

 

[Troy643]

Brother I sent you a pm,your the only one asking for referal that has put up a review for another source on here,counts for something, so I may be willing to refer you.dont think you can send back pm with less than 50 posts.check it n go from there brother.

Hey brother. I really appreciate that - it means a lot.
I'm new to all of this and you've got to start somewhere so I appreciate you taking your time out and doing that for me.

Unfortunately I can't see your PM.
I've checked my inbox in the top right and can only see the forum welcome message?

Thanks in advance bro.

 

[Troy643]

Brother I sent you a pm,your the only one asking for referal that has put up a review for another source on here,counts for something, so I may be willing to refer you.dont think you can send back pm with less than 50 posts.check it n go from there brother.

Disregard my message above brother! I got your PM but you're right, I can't reply without 50 posts.

Any suggestions? Happy to give you my Threema etc

 

[Seventieschild]

Disregard my message above brother! I got your PM but you're right, I can't reply without 50 posts.

Any suggestions? Happy to give you my Threema etc

Send me threema bro will sort it there

 

[Troy643]

Here it is bro - sorry can't PM you.

3WH9U3BX

 

[Seventieschild]

Cheers Apex,fast delivery,well packaged ,looking forward to kicking off this cycle.

 

[Bachata]

Okay.. must leave a review for Aussie Apex. Quick communication - Quick delivery - Amazing service.
Now what I really with to point out is the quality of his product! I have been trt, cruising and blasting for 10 years. I have not had such effective results as I’m having now in my little blast since say 2015/16. Oils I’ve been using been ok. But Apex is exceptional! With my training and diet, My physique has not transformed like this for a long long time. Very happy ! Quality A+++

 

[TheFatman]

I have had the same experience, I pin shallow intramuscular in my thighs and shoulders with a slin pin, sometimes no pain, other times some pain for a few days. I pin 0.173ml test e 3 times a week. Have you been on it for long or have you used injectable before?

 

[Shen Long]

I have had the same experience, I pin shallow intramuscular in my thighs and shoulders with a slin pin, sometimes no pain, other times some pain for a few days. I pin 0.173ml test e 3 times a week. Have you been on it for long or have you used injectable before?

better to use a 27g or 25g pin for thighs mate...

I'm sure you know about the measuring technique using starting from the hip crease to the centre of the thigh at an approx length of the hand/middle finger.

 

[TheFatman]

Mine was taking a while to show up and then after a while, I asked him for the tracking number and he sent it to me and he'd sent it out straight away but it just took ages to get to me. All very professionally put together too. I think he's really reliable, it's just the postage system that isn't.

 

[TheFatman]

I'm sure you know about the measuring technique using starting from the hip crease to the centre of the thigh at an approx length of the hand/middle finger.

I didn't know about this. 3 weeks into my first cycle. I will try it though. I think it also might be that my girlfriend does it and moves the needle a lot while it's in my leg

 

[Clenhard]

Another order arrived very quickly cheers apex! Looking forward to this blast.

 

[Seventieschild]

I didn't know about this. 3 weeks into my first cycle. I will try it though. I think it also might be that my girlfriend does it and moves the needle a lot while it's in my leg

Glutes and ventro glutes much safer,less nerve endings,quads always risky,got lats delts shoulder as well,could explain but you tube has plenty of tutorial videos to watch the specific injection site and techniques.some compounds give pip no matter what but best to mitigate this with safe effective injection proceedures and technique.but that advice is right.all the best brother

 

[Shen Long]

I didn't know about this. 3 weeks into my first cycle. I will try it though. I think it also might be that my girlfriend does it and moves the needle a lot while it's in my leg

No disrespect to the misses mate but chances are she's as nervous as hell when doing the deed.

Also, when you do it yourself, you can "feel" whats going on & you can act accordingly...

sometimes you may need to "angle" the 27g a little to miss a vein etc.

Trust me, you'll get very use to it & its not that hard.

Rule #1 always pull back on the plunger before blasting.

 

[Shen Long]

Glutes and ventro glutes much safer,less nerve endings,quads always risky,got lats delts shoulder as well,could explain but you tube has plenty of tutorial videos to watch the specific injection site and techniques.some compounds give pip no matter what but best to mitigate this with safe effective injection proceedures and technique.but that advice is right.all the best brother

Don't take anything this bloke says as "gospel" - he's been caught out grooming on forums.
Also, he's on 700mg of Test p/w & it is converting into Estrogen & he's got female hormonal imbalance issues [apparently he's working on the conversion with the use of Arimidex or Aromasin - there has been no verification of this yet according to reliable sources].

 

[CFSwoleMate13]

Hi Apex brothers, I am a new registered user to Evo but not new to reading the forums, can someone please get rid of this “Shen Long” clown!? Nothing I hate more than a keyboard warrior!

I’ve jumped on to legitimately ask if anyone has been in contact with the Apex boys within the last week? I’ve had no luck with Threema or protonmail, any help would be appreciated.

 

[MassiveSparky]

Hey man, apex is unfortunatley not taking any new customers without a referal that will be near on impossible to get unless you know someone who is a current customer.
I also am sick of Shen Long talking utter shit constantly and if he keeps doing it I believe he will be gone. Just makes it difficult to find any info on the thread.

 

[Seventieschild]

Don't take anything this bloke says as "gospel" - he's been caught out grooming on forums.
Also, he's on 700mg of Test p/w & it is converting into Estrogen & he's got female hormonal imbalance issues [apparently he's working on the conversion with the use of Arimidex or Aromasin - there has been no verification of this yet according to reliable sources].

Fuck off back to your thread you little dog,had enough of your shit dickhead,say that shit to me man to man cunt.yoyr a fucking grub.

 

[CFSwoleMate13]

Hey man, apex is unfortunatley not taking any new customers without a referal that will be near on impossible to get unless you know someone who is a current customer.
I also am sick of Shen Long talking utter shit constantly and if he keeps doing it I believe he will be gone. Just makes it difficult to find any info on the thread.

Ahhh cheers brother, appreciate the info. Referrals would be very hard to come by for me then. Not new to PED’s just new to sourcing through entities other than my own local supplier (don’t have this option anymore). Have been scammed online once and was never really keen to give it another go but have been tracking Apex threads and comments for a while now and there is a lot of positive noise about them. Any other recommendations and good quality and reliable sources then I’m all ears, OzPharm I’ve heard good things about as well but yeh anyone who wants to help a fellow brother out otherwise I’ll go do my own research like I should hahah just being lazy.

Cheers lads

 

[CFSwoleMate13]

Ahhh rightio cheers for the info brother! Referral will be a hard thing for me as I’m not new to PED’s but am new to sourcing them from somewhere other than my local supplier (this is not an option anymore). I’ve been scammed in the past and have been very reluctant to source online, however I have been hearing some positive noise about Apex and OzPharm thought I’d try and tee something up. If anyone has any recommendations or sweet hook ups for a referral I’d be very appreciative.

Other than that I’ll keep eating well and training hard, gotta bust through these plateaus.

Cheers lads.

 

[Shen Long]

Hey man, apex is unfortunatley not taking any new customers without a referal that will be near on impossible to get unless you know someone who is a current customer.
I also am sick of Shen Long talking utter shit constantly and if he keeps doing it I believe he will be gone. Just makes it difficult to find any info on the thread.

Get a hot one in ya Sparky
Touch the live & neutral wires with your bare hands while your feet are touching the ground with no rubber sole shoes & let me see you post shit...

 

[Shen Long]

Fuck off back to your thread you little dog,had enough of your shit dickhead,say that shit to me man to man cunt.yoyr a fucking grub.

"woof ruff" goes the biatch Chiwahwah poodle

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***Chihuahua***

 

[Skywalkerrr]

Hi Apex brothers, I am a new registered user to Evo but not new to reading the forums, can someone please get rid of this “Shen Long” clown!? Nothing I hate more than a keyboard warrior!

I’ve jumped on to legitimately ask if anyone has been in contact with the Apex boys within the last week? I’ve had no luck with Threema or protonmail, any help would be appreciated.

Hey brother, as others have said. To get in contact with apex you’ll need a referral. However you can go through oz pharm and p10, Ive only dealt with apex but as far as I know both the others mentioned are gtg

 

[Shen Long]

Hey man, apex is unfortunatley not taking any new customers without a referal that will be near on impossible to get unless you know someone who is a current customer.
I also am sick of Shen Long talking utter shit constantly and if he keeps doing it I believe he will be gone. Just makes it difficult to find any info on the thread.

Fuck off back to your thread you little dog,had enough of your shit dickhead,say that shit to me man to man cunt.yoyr a fucking grub.

i just thought of something, can you two "refer me" to Aussie Apex???
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