Veteran Thread Bad Reviews and the Burden of Proof

[Mobster]

One obvious issue is a 'slighted' punters lack of objectivity. Couple of examples.
1) Super common on the main board. Doesn't get a reply right away and the title will be along the lines of 'X has scammed me'. Which we all see. And even when it's actually been resolved to their satisfaction (requiring you to read the thread) the title stays as is.

2) That Tren example. We ALL change as we go through the training journey. How you felt on tren when you was young and lean vs how you respond older and fatter differs HUGELY. And that varies between us all. So 'KNOWING' what tren feels like then vs now (and a buck says it's not the same dose too) isn't as clear as it ought to be. And we've all seen people swear blind on that subject

The answer is always testing. If you test it and you're wrong... you keep your mouth shut lol. But if you test it and it IS off then post it up. If said supplier wants to remain in business they could, at the least, give you a 'store credit' to the same or so value. What do Oz tests cost? Agree to a 2025 figure and have approved sources agree to it. Again - if the test is good it's on the customer. If not...? An idea anyway

There does need to be rules in place re testing cos I can think of ways round it off the top of my head.

 

[Freki]

I’ve thought about this before. It’s difficult to get the community to help out financially; as a result, this would have to be paid for by vendors.

Vendors are already taking on quite a big job in having a heap of loggers and the cost to supply them. If a vendor would like to donate $100 great but personally i don't think they should be burdened more.

We can ask all the sponsored loggers and gauge a response?

 

[Freki]

One obvious issue is a 'slighted' punters lack of objectivity. Couple of examples.
1) Super common on the main board. Doesn't get a reply right away and the title will be along the lines of 'X has scammed me'. Which we all see. And even when it's actually been resolved to their satisfaction (requiring you to read the thread) the title stays as is.

2) That Tren example. We ALL change as we go through the training journey. How you felt on tren when you was young and lean vs how you respond older and fatter differs HUGELY. And that varies between us all. So 'KNOWING' what tren feels like then vs now (and a buck says it's not the same dose too) isn't as clear as it ought to be. And we've all seen people swear blind on that subject

The answer is always testing. If you test it and you're wrong... you keep your mouth shut lol. But if you test it and it IS off then post it up. If said supplier wants to remain in business they could, at the least, give you a 'store credit' to the same or so value. What do Oz tests cost? Agree to a 2025 figure and have approved sources agree to it. Again - if the test is good it's on the customer. If not...? An idea anyway

There does need to be rules in place re testing cos I can think of ways round it off the top of my head.

Great points Mobster appreciate the input

 

[Freki]

@TeeGee has got us started on implementing community random HLPC testing, really positive responses so far, its early days, we are very encouraged this will keep building.

 

[Freki]

People should be able to post honest reviews positive or negative for the greater good and vendors should welcome these in a constructive way.

Personally I think reviews should be left freely

I myself believe in full transparency... I also believe constructive feedback is always healthy

Everyone says they r here for community but if someone post negative report he will be trolled or abused for bringing it out

Any Ideas on how we can approach this better?

I like @juddy idea of a grievance form.
Is it just a case of advising a poor reviewer we need more details?
Does this stop the trolling or Spam, its also difficult if the person is constantly getting tagged they are constantly getting dragged back to the thread.

Generally If you’re ever read 1star reviews if there is enough detail it's pretty easy to see if the person has a valid concern or is just a flog.

What to do with Faceless Warrior's complaining? @Eveflorence is right they haven't built any trust whatsoever

 

[Dirt]

Some labs are untouchable . They can puss in a vial and every cunt and his dog will lap that shit up.
Just the way it is. .
Make your own .