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JDawg414

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You think we should have a sticky for Blood results on certain labs. Cause everyone can say how good something was and all that, but I like proof, I don't know about you guys, but I feel that would be a good idea. Any suggestions?
 
Sounds good. I'll be on some ghrp6 with cjc1295 no dac in about a week. You guys think I should get pre bloods for the following:

Female hormone panel
Human growth hormone
Igf1
 
I think no matter what you take, bloods would be a great idea, not only for you, but for the rest of the Bros here.
 
I dont get it either. Purity and accuracy of actual contents....or "I'm sweating in bed at night, and i feel like i might be stronger.." i see a lot of vouching going on ,but not enough science. For someone who has never had pharm grade, 50 percent might be great for you.. For me..i want purity. Proof Is in the proverbial pudding when it comes to your body. Always assume two people don't have your best interest in mind.. Your drug dealer, and that guy online. If you read here , many labs that have been discredited elsewhere with proof , are considered gtg here.. Is there a lot of free gear samples going out here or just incredibly trusting people? Sides are NOT an indication of legitimacy. Mass specs by sources need to be a requirement imo.
 
JDawg414 said:
You think we should have a sticky for Blood results on certain labs. Cause everyone can say how good something was and all that, but I like proof, I don't know about you guys, but I feel that would be a good idea. Any suggestions?
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A lab results sub forum would be a great idea.
 
dredd09 said:
I dont get it either. Purity and accuracy of actual contents....or "I'm sweating in bed at night, and i feel like i might be stronger.." i see a lot of vouching going on ,but not enough science. For someone who has never had pharm grade, 50 percent might be great for you.. For me..i want purity. Proof Is in the proverbial pudding when it comes to your body. Always assume two people don't have your best interest in mind.. Your drug dealer, and that guy online. If you read here , many labs that have been discredited elsewhere with proof , are considered gtg here.. Is there a lot of free gear samples going out here or just incredibly trusting people? Sides are NOT an indication of legitimacy. Mass specs by sources need to be a requirement imo.
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Not to many people these days in the game of doing mass specs. Even fewer people appear to do it correctly. Of those few most seem to have their agenda, and I would not trust their results at all(yes, I'm referring to meso). Just sayin
 
The results are not done for the consumer. Its done at the source level to assure his own purity. For his own sake. Not as a favor to customers. It cant be faked if its documented correctly. There are too many anonymous testing sites out there not to send a sample off , even if it cost a couple hundred bucks. Theres no excuse for not testing if your going to source. Cmon..theres thousands in the balance if its right. Ugls come and go..if they wanna be around , testing needs to be required..if for no other reason but safety..forget the money..hoe many people out here are getting burned ...all the while thinking its the effing bomb. Chinese raw man love to sell you 99 pacent pure mast e. No pwoblem. My cousin have in back.
 
dredd09 said:
The results are not done for the consumer. Its done at the source level to assure his own purity. For his own sake. Not as a favor to customers. It cant be faked if its documented correctly. There are too many anonymous testing sites out there not to send a sample off , even if it cost a couple hundred bucks. Theres no excuse for not testing if your going to source. Cmon..theres thousands in the balance if its right. Ugls come and go..if they wanna be around , testing needs to be required..if for no other reason but safety..forget the money..hoe many people out here are getting burned ...all the while thinking its the effing bomb. Chinese raw man love to sell you 99 pacent pure mast e. No pwoblem. My cousin have in back.
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I totally agree...but dont see it happening. Unfortunately. Too many variables in play to guarantee legitacy.
 
dredd09 said:
The results are not done for the consumer. Its done at the source level to assure his own purity. For his own sake. Not as a favor to customers. It cant be faked if its documented correctly. There are too many anonymous testing sites out there not to send a sample off , even if it cost a couple hundred bucks. Theres no excuse for not testing if your going to source. Cmon..theres thousands in the balance if its right. Ugls come and go..if they wanna be around , testing needs to be required..if for no other reason but safety..forget the money..hoe many people out here are getting burned ...all the while thinking its the effing bomb. Chinese raw man love to sell you 99 pacent pure mast e. No pwoblem. My cousin have in back.
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Which labs offer anonymous qualitative and/or quantitative testing of AAS?
 
dredd09 said:
The results are not done for the consumer. Its done at the source level to assure his own purity. For his own sake. Not as a favor to customers. It cant be faked if its documented correctly. There are too many anonymous testing sites out there not to send a sample off , even if it cost a couple hundred bucks. Theres no excuse for not testing if your going to source. Cmon..theres thousands in the balance if its right. Ugls come and go..if they wanna be around , testing needs to be required..if for no other reason but safety..forget the money..hoe many people out here are getting burned ...all the while thinking its the effing bomb. Chinese raw man love to sell you 99 pacent pure mast e. No pwoblem. My cousin have in back.
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Lol. Fact is there is not a single legitimate lab out there willing to test raws. That's really end of the story. You are a fool if you think there is. Go have Dr Jim on meso test your chit. It is absolutely not in his best interests to fail your results on purpose, because it is in no way making him filthy rich to continuously fail every sample he "tests".

Maybe people could find a lab overseas will to do the full workout and provide us with real purity %'s and everything, but we do not have a single place stateside willing to do it.
 
wowstrongarms said:
Lol. Fact is there is not a single legitimate lab out there willing to test raws. That's really end of the story. You are a fool if you think there is. Go have Dr Jim on meso test your chit. It is absolutely not in his best interests to fail your results on purpose, because it is in no way making him filthy rich to continuously fail every sample he "tests".

Maybe people could find a lab overseas will to do the full workout and provide us with real purity %'s and everything, but we do not have a single place stateside willing to do it.
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Dr Jim doesn't test for any sources, ever. He only tests for people he wants to test for and he doesn't charge for the service.
 
insertnamehere said:
Dr Jim doesn't test for any sources, ever. He only tests for people he wants to test for and he doesn't charge for the service.
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I could go quote numerous posts where he says sources should send him samples to test. I don't believe for a second that he isn't "testing" for the sources there.
 
insertnamehere said:
Thanks. I'll take a look.
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I just see a situation where it would be very easy to purposely fail a few extra raw samples here and there to get more money from labs. Maybe its just my skepticism, but I just see no way that he isn't taking money to test for different labs out of the public eye. Every test he fails just makes another that the labs would need to have tested. Maybe he's a saint and everything he is doing is put out on the forum with no deals being done else where. The situation is just to easy to take advantage of though.

I'm a home brewer though. My roids pass labmaxes and give desired results, so what he does doesn't affect me. Just want to point out such possibilities so people make their own opinions instead of taking his word as gospel
 
wowstrongarms said:
I just see a situation where it would be very easy to purposely fail a few extra raw samples here and there to get more money from labs. Maybe its just my skepticism, but I just see no way that he isn't taking money to test for different labs out of the public eye. Every test he fails just makes another that the labs would need to have tested. Maybe he's a saint and everything he is doing is put out on the forum with no deals being done else where. The situation is just to easy to take advantage of though.

I'm a home brewer though. My roids pass labmaxes and give desired results, so what he does doesn't affect me. Just want to point out such possibilities so people make their own opinions instead of taking his word as gospel
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I hear what you're saying and I can appreciate the critical thinking that lends to your skepticism.

IMO and IME, Dr Jim is stand up guy and does this testing for virtues beyond monetary gain. I've offered to pay a few times for his services and even to purchase reference standards for the analysis but he always gracefully refuses. I agree that the situation is ripe with opportunity to take advantage and mislead people but based on what I have seen in the open forum as well as my conversations with him, I believe his testing is unbiased and legit.

BTW, I did look at the post you referred me to. I sent a PM, asking him to clarify the statement and thus his stance on testing for sources. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
 
insertnamehere said:
I hear what you're saying and I can appreciate the critical thinking that lends to your skepticism.

IMO and IME, Dr Jim is stand up guy and does this testing for virtues beyond monetary gain. I've offered to pay a few times for his services and even to purchase reference standards for the analysis but he always gracefully refuses. I agree that the situation is ripe with opportunity to take advantage and mislead people but based on what I have seen in the open forum as well as my conversations with him, I believe his testing is unbiased and legit.

BTW, I did look at the post you referred me to. I sent a PM, asking him to clarify the statement and thus his stance on testing for sources. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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Yea there are a few other posts where he asks why labs just don't have raws sent to him for testing floating around. I don't really have a problem with him doing it. However the general situation+doing one thing and saying another doesn't help my skepticism on him.
 
Just got my prebloods back. Came back <0.1 for gh and 11 for e2. 945 for testosterone and igf1 was like 145
What yall think? Ill be doing 300mcg/d ghrp6 and 300mcg/d cjc 12.5 no dac with test 500/wk for this cycle
 

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forgedsteel20000 said:
Can anybody just use the mass spectrometry machine in their school's physical chemistry lab?
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Not the smartest idea, in colleges certain individuals are allowed lab access. I've tried I have a very close friend who works in the chemistry department and he wasn't willing to risk losing his partnership with a PHd in chem whom was going to help him into grad school.
 
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