Classic Physique

[Ahmad90]

So what attite will they wear?? Will they have similar trunks like they did in the 70s and 80s. I like bodybuilding and i think i could thrive in it too, but i think my body type leans to classic physique. Honestly i just dont freakin feel like taking so much damn roids. In order for me to step on that stage at nearly 230lbs for my height, shit id have to take so much gear. And im not a fan of cycling in the offseason i like taking time off. Sure maybe a small test and deca run if i was lacking mass but classic physique probably fits my goals better. If i stop eating for a few hours and start ab vacuuming, i could hold my waist to 28in easily. Idk if this has any benefit in bodybuilding now. But at the sametime i bet i could be 230lbs and ripped one day if i work hard enough. Idk what to do!


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[Crossfit]

Seeing your post all over .. I think you should chill out a little bit ... Take some time for you .. work as hard as you can and then later on you can decide !

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Btw I am going for classic physique since I started out my journey as 135 ... I am not big enought for bodybuilding + I can see in my self some muscle that these pro physique doesnt have so ye ! take your time

 

[Ahmad90]

Idk man, for some damn reason i feel if i do classic physique that i wont work as hard. Idk why that mentality is in my head. But if i do bodybuilding i want to give it all i got.


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[Crossfit]

You have to work insanely hard to do physique as well :S

 

[2knives]

Physique is no less work than the Bodybuilding shows.
Both require diet and training.
Most people do not have the discipline for either.

 

[Ahmad90]

Oh come on dont BS me. No offense to Buendia, but he doesnt work out as hard as heath or anyone in top 10 Olympia, not even close. Whenever i see physique vids i see groups of dudes workin out together and no ones even struggling. Abs poses in the mirror n shit.


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[Ahmad90]

Inwas wondering because my goal size (mass wise) is to step on stage at around 210-220lbs ripped at 5'7". All the other competitors my height are in the 250s! But i guess only time and experience will tell.


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[TheOldMan]

Oh come on dont BS me. No offense to Buendia, but he doesnt work out as hard as heath or anyone in top 10 Olympia, not even close. Whenever i see physique vids i see groups of dudes workin out together and no ones even struggling. Abs poses in the mirror n shit.


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I probably say the guys like buendia and sadik are working just as hard if not harder, these guys condition is better than all of the top olympians. They have to diet their asses off to get in that condition, whereas the guys in the open BB are and have clearly let the conditioning game go since the earlies 2000s.

 

[Ahmad90]

I probably say the guys like buendia and sadik are working just as hard if not harder, these guys condition is better than all of the top olympians. They have to diet their asses off to get in that condition, whereas the guys in the open BB are and have clearly let the conditioning game go since the earlies 2000s.

That may be true buts its still better conditioning than the physique dudes. Seriously? Most physique winners have been ages 20-25. That says a lot. Jeff Seid turned pro at age 19 right?? It took Cody til age 20 to turn pro and look at the difference between the 2.


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[Crossfit]

Just go ahead and get pro in physique if it is that easy ... Idk

 

[TheOldMan]

What has age got to do with conditioning? 'Conditioning' should me tight, dry, hard and lean. So lets examine pro BB right now, most have some strange addiction to androgens so come in looking soft and watery (and if not they got lucky with the diuretics), most have thick stomachs if not distend from a plethora of things, growth, test, carbs during loading, most don't have the ability to vacuum and certainly have to 'control' their midsection rather than having a tight washboard set of abs. In contrast physique guys have tiny waists, are not thick front to back in the mid section, mostly in the Mr O guys were hard and reasonably dry pertaining to the criteria of judging. Physique isnt mark anthony anymore, sadik and buendia are Frank Zane like for christ sake.

 

[Jzp87]

I will say neither one of their legs were close to Zane in my book, sadik has almost no lower leg.

But that being said they work hard we all work hard, they have to diet and train just like anyone else. Op flex Lewis is 212 pounds and a little shorter than you, he won his class at O and kills it everywhere he goes not to mention he is big as fuck. You need to realize the top 10 you are mention have been doing this for 10+ years competitively not just doing a cycle here and there lifting a few months hard a dean not so hard. It's not an over night thing, I was 135 tiny tiny tiny when I started lifting I'm now 225 and ain't even at my peak. You need to be off the seen bulking your ass off then try and cut down and maybe in a few years you will be ready.


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[Jrbdallas]

Oh come on dont BS me. No offense to Buendia, but he doesnt work out as hard as heath or anyone in top 10 Olympia, not even close. Whenever i see physique vids i see groups of dudes workin out together and no ones even struggling. Abs poses in the mirror n shit.


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Lol I promise you would be humbled if you try it. You are gravy mistaken. I dint even compete in physique and I never would.

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[Jrbdallas]

Such an ignorant thread lol. Jesus... you can't even keep your carbs down for two weeks bro. At this point you are so off the mark to be able to compete in physique or classic physique. And to say it's easier?! Not even close. I wouldn't do physique cause if anything it's harder.

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[Jrbdallas]

Like in said I don't even compete in physique but to knock the work that is in it is ridicukous. Absolutly a retarded theory

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[Tythion]

Im with Dallas on this one, this thread is pretty disrespectful and ignorant. Nothing against you bro but you need to chill out and just learn. Every week I see a different thread or question from you that shows your inexperience as well as your indecisiveness. Take it easy, put on more size, learn your body and in a few years figure out what fits you beat. Good things come to those who wait.


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[Ahmad90]

Ohhhh im not sure about that lol. My body has been built differently so if i wanted to do physique id have to stop training my arms for a while and focus on shoulder growth to give the illusion that i have bigger shoulders. Hell they dont even have to train legs. If from the beginning i did physique id be just as good. I built my base in a way that it wouldnt look good for a physique contest, even tho most physique bodies look funny. A few physique dudes are good but most, hahaha, come on guys, really??? What happened to good posture? Shoulders back, big wide chest, V Taper (The v taper is non fucking existent in physique, ive only seen like 3 guys with it) and low carb sucks. Most ripped dudes eat 200-300g carbs. Anyone who wants to eat that lame paleo diet ends up lookin like a crossfitter.


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[Tythion]

Im no expert myself but just enjoy working out and leading a healthy lifestyle, that's the best advice I can give you for right now.


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[Ahmad90]

What was your beginng weight JR? Werent you like 280? And precontest 220? Im not calling you out but 60lbs is too fucking much to loose. Thats why low carb diets suck ass.


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[rickysim123]

yeh seriously dont take credit away from physique. most of the guys are just as conditioned. and to reply to your post: if you have a "physique" like body but with legs, compete in classic physique. other than that, id stick with bodybuilding

 

[Ahmad90]

yeh seriously dont take credit away from physique. most of the guys are just as conditioned. and to reply to your post: if you have a "physique" like body but with legs, compete in classic physique. other than that, id stick with bodybuilding

What about the posing suits? I heard that they might be like the ones Arnold wore or they might be like the ones the WBFF have or whatever it is.


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[Crossfit]

I cant believe you are bashing on physique guys ... And now bashing on crossfit physique , that disrespect is not good .

 

[Ahmad90]

LOL im not bashing. Its just that it takes more work to be a bodybuilder. All that i said. Its a fact.


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[Jzp87]

Op are you joking, have you looked at yourself because the picture I seen is almost a joke.

I can't believe you are talking shit the way you are, I mean come on man get real with yourself. You obviously will not make it because you already know everything and I know you didn't say you would have to stop training arms because they are so big lol. Jr is twice your size and better looking so to talk shit to him is crazy. Oh well good luck trying to get on stage man, it will be a long road with the way you are.


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[Ahmad90]

I am not talking shit...and btw you dont know the constant shit i had to go through from ages 17-19 i started at 140 blew up to 183 then dropped to 155 and still recovered to around 173 after a year. And then i went from 173-195 naturally even through ramadan. Im tired of non sense and all the 90s bodybuilders are right. This generation of lifters sucks. And im not attacking JR in any way. And btw come at me Nov 21. Challenge me go ahead. Thats when ill be done with my first cycle. Get off me.


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[Jzp87]

Lol ok bro your right I look like shit and have never had to push for what I got. November I'll be 240+ with abs at 5'9 so I hope you got your cycle insulin and hgh stocked up like I do buddy.

I been in the aas game for 10 years now so please please don't talk to me like you are something special because your not. When you stop being so cocky maybe people will treat you with respect until then you are just another guy talking shit.


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[Ahmad90]

10 years ha. 10 weeks in the AAS game and lets see how i look. And do you have a gut to go along with that 240lbs?


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[Jzp87]

This is why guys never make it lol they think this is something that happens over night when it don't. I tell you what man I'm all natural right now post up a picture here and let's see who's bigger and I eat 6,000+ calories a day 350+ carbs and 100+fats


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[Jzp87]

There's you then me your arms are really small you have zero shoulders or traps and you want to be a bb I have a 28" waist at 5'9 225 with 19 3/4" arms


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[Ahmad90]

Lol your traps dont show in a side chest pose genius. And how dont i have shoulders or arms lol. How big am i suppose to be for someone who just hopped on 10 days ago and has been training for 3 years?? You have any other poses you would like to share? And btw look at the lightinf difference. And what are you on? 2g of hormones a week? Tren?


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[Ahmad90]

Im 5'7" 200lbs. Gained 5lbs first 12 days and i took winny which i dropped a few days ago and 500mg test a week. I have 58 more days to go.


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[m_groove]

Yea I think we all know the kind of guy Ahmad90 is Jzp. Just cause he has a couple baby lumps he walks around the gym puffing his little pecs, really how you going to compare 240+ to 190.

 

[Jzp87]

Yea I think we all know the kind of guy Ahmad90 is Jzp. Just cause he has a couple baby lumps he walks around the gym puffing his little pecs, really how you going to compare 240+ to 190.

Hahaha he's an idiot lol, the sad part is when I was 19 all natural I looked better than him and I'm about to post a picture of it. When I started lifting I took old guys advice I wasn't a cocky fuck like him, he's got a long way to go.


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[Jzp87]

Here's me at 19 100% natural started when I was 18 at 135.

Also op I was talking about your other pictures with no traps I posted the best picture you had.


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[Jzp87]

Here's me at 19 100% natural started when I was 18 at 135.

Also op I was talking about your other pictures with no traps I posted the best picture you had.


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Oh I'm 190 right there.


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[Ahmad90]

So in one year naturally you gonna tell me you gained 60lbs. And then 10 years on steroids you gained 50 more. Lmao. Either your the best natty ever or you suck at taking roids.


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[m_groove]

Oh I'm 190 right there.


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LOL!!! You posted the best pic of him. I really hate guy's that pick up 10lb dumbells and think they are the shit, and know it all. He really needs to learn and ask questions cause I bet a year later he will look the same.

 

[Ahmad90]

And thats only one pic. Back legs??? Most contests are won from the back buddy.


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[Ahmad90]

LOL!!! You posted the best pic of him. I really hate guy's that pick up 10lb dumbells and think they are the shit, and know it all. He really needs to learn and ask questions cause I bet a year later he will look the same.

Bet? You want to bet on it??? I didnt know you knew the future. So what am i training tomorrow?? Whos gonna be the next governor of California? Lots of guys talk big but they are just ppl who have roided for 10 years and look just a little above average.


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[Jzp87]

LOL!!! You posted the best pic of him. I really hate guy's that pick up 10lb dumbells and think they are the shit, and know it all. He really needs to learn and ask questions cause I bet a year later he will look the same.

He really is an idiot lol, he thinks I have done steroids straight for 10 years lol. I mean he thinks I don't know anything or that I'm lying about my gains. I'll put it this way I have earned respect on many forums from what I know, I ain't going to be hurt if this fool thinks he knows more than me.

On that note I'm the bigger person here and I honestly don't have time to keep posting at this pointless forum so I'm out. I hope the op drops about 15%bf so he can get down to 15%bf one day but with his attitude he's going no where.


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[m_groove]

Bet? You want to bet on it??? I didnt know you knew the future. So what am i training tomorrow?? Whos gonna be the next governor of California? Lots of guys talk big but they are just ppl who have roided for 10 years and look just a little above average.


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Well I kinda know the future but since you asked I would say the next thing you should train is shoulders, arms, forearm, traps, chest, ABS, and obliques seems like you need work in all those areas.

 

[Ahmad90]

He really is an idiot lol, he thinks I have done steroids straight for 10 years lol. I mean he thinks I don't know anything or that I'm lying about my gains. I'll put it this way I have earned respect on many forums from what I know, I ain't going to be hurt if this fool thinks he knows more than me.

On that note I'm the bigger person here and I honestly don't have time to keep posting at this pointless forum so I'm out. I hope the op drops about 15%bf so he can get down to 15%bf one day but with his attitude he's going no where.


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LOL only God knows the future buddy. Who knows where ill be in one year. We will see where i will go.


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[m_groove]

LOL only God knows the future buddy. Who knows where ill be in one year. We will see where i will go.


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Remember I can tell the future,Chances are you'll be sitting on the couch with high body fat wondering why steroids didn't work, after all they are the miracle drug (right) You shouldn't have to do much work.

 

[Ahmad90]

Remember I can tell the future,Chances are you'll be sitting on the couch with high body fat wondering why steroids didn't work, after all they are the miracle drug (right) You shouldn't have to do much work.

Actually ummmmm lots of steroid users dont even work that hard. Most gyms i walked into its clear whos on AAS and i see them chilling and hanging out, all relaxed. Sure they are kindaaaa buff, but besides that they dont look that impressive for the dosages a lot of these guys take.


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[m_groove]

Actually ummmmm lots of steroid users dont even work that hard. Most gyms i walked into its clear whos on AAS and i see them chilling and hanging out, all relaxed. Sure they are kindaaaa buff, but besides that they dont look that impressive for the dosages a lot of these guys take.


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That's why I say that, you need to know what your doing with AAS, actually steroids will make you fat if your diet is not on check & I'm sure you didn't know that. I don't care how much juice your on 80% of it consist of diet. Your in the wrong gym if guys on AAS are not impressive. And you need to loose the mentality that you know everything there is to know if your only 10 weeks in. I've seen the outcome to many times.

 

[GainzTrain]

Lmao, this thread is pure gold.

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[Jrbdallas]

What was your beginng weight JR? Werent you like 280? And precontest 220? Im not calling you out but 60lbs is too fucking much to loose. Thats why low carb diets suck ass.


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Riiigghhhht..... lol bro your disrespectful and so off the mark in many of your posts. I've been the first to say I bulked to high when I was powerlifting. Secondly you don't have to call me out I'm not the least bit worried about your opinion lo I've proven myself where I need to go. Can you say the same?

Paleo diet is really what you think it is huh? Lol I understand you have a severe lack of knowledge on anything related to diet but Il let that go for attempting to understand what you actually dont. You continue to do it your way and see if that 20% body fat ever comes down for you.... low carb and carb cycling sucks huh. Well go ahead and continue to argue science. I'd like to see an opinion from you if you ever one day have the dicipline to make it through one.

I think you need to focus on doing your first test cycle before you continue to spout of information you plagiarize from Google search especially before you gave the balls to knock atheletes thay have proven themselves, physique or not. Every single person that tries to help you but your the type that needs to figure it out the hard way... your ignorance is one thing but when you disrespect those who put the work in and walk away proven a champion while you have not even scratched the surface in this game just proves your mentality. Every person here can see it clear as day and you end up looking stupid. Many guys here are competing in physique or have the aspirations and you come by with your dick head comments.

lol good luck buddy.



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[Jrbdallas]

That shitty thing is you have awesome potential but you have lost the respect of pretty much any individual thay passes by this thread that may not matter to you but when you actually have the experience your gonna be kicking yourself for shit like this. You need a wake up call dude you really do.

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[m_groove]

Haaaahaaa all this coming from a guy who thought he had gyno from 2 days of dbol, and was contest ready. Guys like (Ahmad90) Are good for humor funny stuff.

 

[LAfit]

Riiigghhhht..... lol bro your disrespectful and so off the mark in many of your posts. I've been the first to say I bulked to high when I was powerlifting. Secondly you don't have to call me out I'm not the least bit worried about your opinion lo I've proven myself where I need to go. Can you say the same?

Paleo diet is really what you think it is huh? Lol I understand you have a severe lack of knowledge on anything related to diet but Il let that go for attempting to understand what you actually dont. You continue to do it your way and see if that 20% body fat ever comes down for you.... low carb and carb cycling sucks huh. Well go ahead and continue to argue science. I'd like to see an opinion from you if you ever one day have the dicipline to make it through one.

I think you need to focus on doing your first test cycle before you continue to spout of information you plagiarize from Google search especially before you gave the balls to knock atheletes thay have proven themselves, physique or not. Every single person that tries to help you but your the type that needs to figure it out the hard way... your ignorance is one thing but when you disrespect those who put the work in and walk away proven a champion while you have not even scratched the surface in this game just proves your mentality. Every person here can see it clear as day and you end up looking stupid. Many guys here are competing in physique or have the aspirations and you come by with your dick head comments.

lol good luck buddy.



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He has to be trolling you and JZP right? Lol there is no way he is being serious with all he BS he is saying. That or he is delusional


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[muskate]

So what attite will they wear?? Will they have similar trunks like they did in the 70s and 80s. I like bodybuilding and i think i could thrive in it too, but i think my body type leans to classic physique. Honestly i just dont freakin feel like taking so much damn roids. In order for me to step on that stage at nearly 230lbs for my height, shit id have to take so much gear. And im not a fan of cycling in the offseason i like taking time off. Sure maybe a small test and deca run if i was lacking mass but classic physique probably fits my goals better. If i stop eating for a few hours and start ab vacuuming, i could hold my waist to 28in easily. Idk if this has any benefit in bodybuilding now. But at the sametime i bet i could be 230lbs and ripped one day if i work hard enough. Idk what to do!


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As far as I am aware, they will be wearing posing trunks similar to that of the '70s and '80s. The trunks will show off the full legs but not reveal the glutes.

None of the details of the new division have been posted yet so it's kind of just all hear say for now but I am very excited for the new division as well.

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Seeing your post all over .. I think you should chill out a little bit ... Take some time for you .. work as hard as you can and then later on you can decide !

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Btw I am going for classic physique since I started out my journey as 135 ... I am not big enought for bodybuilding + I can see in my self some muscle that these pro physique doesnt have so ye ! take your time

Crossfit, you have the perfect physique for classic bodybuilding. I am really excited to help you with your first show in the spring.

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LOL im not bashing. Its just that it takes more work to be a bodybuilder. All that i said. Its a fact.


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It is actually harder to get a pro card in physique right now then bodybuilding. Go to an national level show. The amount of competitors in the physique division will be 4-5 times the amount in bodybuilding.

 

[LevButlerov]

If I were still competing, I would definitely go for the classic physique - I really like it more than the modern bodybuilding.

 

[stevesmi]

Inwas wondering because my goal size (mass wise) is to step on stage at around 210-220lbs ripped at 5'7". All the other competitors my height are in the 250s! But i guess only time and experience will tell.


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don't worry about that right now lol. you would be competing in a regional novice division.. and guys your height are not 250 in those, they are way closer to 150.. the dude who won the lightweight last show was 165 tops. I am talking NOVICE lightweight division bodybuilding. not even physique. to be your height and 250 will take years and years and years and years to get to and you will need excellent genetics. hell even that height and 200 at a low body fat is a helluva accomplishment, don't overrate steroids and underrate genetics in this game or you will be humbled quickly

 

[MikeSnow]

Good luck man, this is a long journey.. Physique is the real deal