enanthate really detectable 3 months?

[userbrah]

Theres a lot of debate about this but do any athletes or anyone in general know how true this is?
All i can find is the same info copy and pasted all around the internet.
If enanthates half life is 7-10 days, is it really detectable for three months?
If someone ran test e for two weeks, four pins, would it really be detectable three months down the line?
Common sense tells me this is bullshit.
But id like an opinion of an expert preferably a tested athlete.

 

[badnews168]

I'm not clear about that either, I assume the three month window time is perhaps on carbon isotope ratio testing the most advanced form of testing around. I would be surprised if a normal T:E test could tell for that long

 

[userbrah]

I am familiar with isotope testing.
But it seems to me that the body would pass the ester faster then three months?
Has anyome here ran test e and gotten tested before the speculated 3 months clearance time?
Would t:e ratios not be back in normal.range after 20 days?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[jp4355]

I did an Entire Thread on AAS Detection Times.......................... JP
P.S.
In the Search Bar enter, "Detection Times for AAS".

 

[userbrah]

Jp all you did was copy and paste the same crap thats on every website already.
Where are the sources? Read this.


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Re: Testosterone Enanthate has a half life of 4.5 days!
read: http://www.jenapharm.de/de/fachkreis...eron_depot.pdf

a paper for docs about a testosteron enanthate 250mg/ml from the German co. Jenapharm; on page 3, a chart is shown where blood plasma levels are recorded (y-axis) for every hour after a single injection (x-axis).
it shows that:
- before injection, the subjects had testosterone concentrations of around 4.5 ng/ml = baseline
- maximum blood levels are reached 54.25 hours after injection at 14.31 nanograms/mililiter (page 2), this is 300% of baseline or 200% = 10ng/ml above baseline
- blood plasma levels increase very rapidly for the first 24h and stay highest for around the first 2.5 days (chart at page 3)
- half life is reached when blood levels reach around 9.5 ng/ml at 144h, 6d after injection
- baseline levels are reached after 12-13 days, this means that after 13 days the product is completely metabolized and out of the system

bioavailability and half life differ greatly between subjects (page 2): peaks have been recorded as being between 9 and 19 ng/ml; this means, that one person gets 200% baseline levels from one injection of TE 250mg while another person might get 400% = double the results.
there are also huge differences how fast the steroid is metabolized; one extreme reaches its peak at hour 16, the other extreme has to wait up to hour 92 (!) after injection to reach its (probably lower) peak.
the whole bioavailabilty (ng multiplied by hours) differs between 2000 and 3000, which means that some people get 50% more out the same injection, for the compared TE it was even 100%.

if we factor in that the number of androgen receptors also varies greatly among people one can imagine that the results of a steroid cylce do vary in huge numbers; there must be bodybuilders out there who gain close to nothing off a 250mg TE cycle while others pack on serious pounds with the exact same product.

btw., the bioavialability has an even greater variance for orals, in clinical trials plasma concentration vary up to 1000% (10 times) between subjects. If you only grow on 100mg of dbol ED while your buddy grows on only 10mg, nothing is wrong, its all within normal range.

6 days half life for TE is average, but 4 or 8 days can also be true for you, it depends on the individual.

 

[userbrah]

Can someone tell me if this is true?
The bold part that is.
Doing research for a buddy of mine who is dumb as a box of rocks and ran enanthate instead of ace or no ester.

 

[Anofuctus]

Theres a lot of debate about this but do any athletes or anyone in general know how true this is?
All i can find is the same info copy and pasted all around the internet.
If enanthates half life is 7-10 days, is it really detectable for three months?
If someone ran test e for two weeks, four pins, would it really be detectable three months down the line?
Common sense tells me this is bullshit.
But id like an opinion of an expert preferably a tested athlete.

You are worried about drug testing for steroid use and you don't want to get busted nor kicked out of some competition or sport?
Actually TEST is TEST whether it's natural or synthetic. Your concern really should be "Will it be too high?".
I did 3 injections at 1, 500mg each this month and I know my Test reading is off the charts.
The thing is I found out yesterday that my Firm scheduled an appointment to see an endocrinologist and urologist next month to determined whether I should get back on TRT.
Now I've got to ingest every testosterone lowering food and substance under the sun to get it down to ZERO! LOL

 

[jp4355]

Can someone tell me if this is true?
The bold part that is.
Doing research for a buddy of mine who is dumb as a box of rocks and ran enanthate instead of ace or no ester.

Why are you and your Buddy so Crazy about the Detection Times.
Are you in a Job, where you are Getting Tested for AAS..................... JP
P.S.
I got the Info from Basskilleronline, so I guess it's All Crap !

 

[Marly27]

Just because baseline levels return to normal doesn't mean it is completely out of your system. There a trace amounts that take a long time to clear and there is a lot that comes into play. Such as the bodies ability to metabolize the drug, the amount taken and the length of time on the drug.

I can tell you that after a cycle you will not clear in 10-13 days. Also, remember just because the drug is in your system doesn't mean you can't recover your test levels. After a certain point the amount of drug left is so low that it no longer has impact to hpta.

 

[userbrah]

@jp
Mma, football, cycling, baseball.all have testing in place.
Its a world where no esters, hgh and transdermals rule.


@anifuctus
Test is not test. If the t:e ratio is too high they confirm.synthetic testosterone use by isotope testing and can tell the exact ester used.

 

[jp4355]

@jp
Mma, football, cycling, baseball.all have testing in place.
Its a world where no esters, hgh and transdermals rule.


@anifuctus
Test is not test. If the t:e ratio is too high they confirm.synthetic testosterone use by isotope testing and can tell the exact ester used.

Well then for You & Your Buddy it's Simple.
No Longer Esters.
Short Esters Only.
Or if you can Handle the PIP, No Ester......................... JP

Post Edit:
The only way to get the Answer that you Need to be Safe.
Do a Product, and then have a Private Lab do the Same Testing that you will be Exposed to, in your Respective Sport.

 

[userbrah]

No no no.
I run no ester 2x daily already.
My buddy on the same team as me is not very bright and did two weeks of test enanthate.
We have a test in a month and a half.
Im curious as to if he will be able to pass this test or not.
Since we are part of the same group, him failing could effect the group as a whole since we function as a unit.

 

[genomex]

No no no.
I run no ester 2x daily already.
My buddy on the same team as me is not very bright and did two weeks of test enanthate.
We have a test in a month and a half.
Im curious as to if he will be able to pass this test or not.
Since we are part of the same group, him failing could effect the group as a whole since we function as a unit.

Test Enan's 1/2 life is more like 5.5 days. Also, most things are treated as negligible after they reach 5% (about 4-5x 1/2 lives). Given what you said, so long as your friend doesn't have a high T:E ratio, the test to find metabolites shouldn't be necessary. So it sounds like this more depends on if your friend decides to do anything stupid before the testing date.

 

[Anofuctus]

@jp
Mma, football, cycling, baseball.all have testing in place.
Its a world where no esters, hgh and transdermals rule.


@anifuctus
Test is not test. If the t:e ratio is too high they confirm.synthetic testosterone use by isotope testing and can tell the exact ester used.

Please get the spelling of the name correct or did you do that purpose? Ever heard of "EDIT"? I can see your point where a synthetic is being tested and primarily looked for. I'm glad I don't have to get tested that way. My Firm has been under the suspicion about my steroid use for quite sometime now. Highs and lows at work. I don't have to worry about isotope testing just the ng/dl level.
Withdraw the isotope testing and TEST would still be TEST, natural or synthetic.

 

[userbrah]

Please get the spelling of the name correct or did you do that purpose? Ever heard of "EDIT"? I can see your point where a synthetic is being tested and primarily looked for. I'm glad I don't have to get tested that way. My Firm has beenunder the suspicion about my steroid use for quite sometime now. Highs and lows at work. I don't have to worry about isotope testing just the ng/dl level.
Withdraw the isotope testing and TEST would still be TEST, natural or synthetic.

Get injectable or transdermal epitestosterone and you can pass your t:e test while on 250mg of cyp.
Either that or drink red wine and stay up two days in a row

 

[genomex]

Rawr. I'm a big man that does cool stuff.

 

[kyk288]

only way to find out is a doctor!