Veteran Log First Testosterone Cycle and Beginner Training Log

[vanlife_gymbum]

Yeah i similar to this bro, i pick a rep range for my heavy movements normally somewhere betweek 6-8 or 8-10 and for my smaller muscle/accessorie movements its around 10-12 or 12-15.
Pick a weight the gets you to the bottom of these rep ranges and get to work. Dont worry about adding any weight until you reach the top reps with clean form. Once there, add enough weight that forces your back to the bottom of the rep range and start again.
Progessive overload isnt alway about more weight, reps and form are still progress

Okay thanks for this brother, this is the sort of thing I'm missing. When I say I want to design a schedule for lifting I've already got all the lifts and split sorted but not really how to atcually execute that or how to move forward/up in weight.

Ill try this and report back

Looking foward to it legend

Me too bro! Gonna try use a template this time and not miss logging atcul data like I do half the time Sunday morning means 10KM walk to get methadone! Yay steps. It's nice outside today tho

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

SUBOXONE VS. METHADONE

Suboxone (buprenorphine with naloxone) has to be used very strategically to get high and it only works for this when you first start it. Less is more with suboxone (the buprenorphine part of it - buprenorphine is the opiate binding compound in suboxone) to get a buzz at the beginning. 2mg or less sublingual will give you a buzz but only the first few times, then it's entirely bound to the Mu 'feel good' opiate receptor (there's 3 of them, Mu, Delta, and Kappa) and nothing can bounce it off not even fentanyl. You can only snort or take it sublingually. If you inject it then suboxone has naloxone built into it so you're fucked trying to inject because you're injecting the antidote to the overdose at the same time. The typical dose for addicts is 4-8mg sublingual. I was on 20mg. If you're on 4mg your Mu receptors are pretty much all saturated and if you bolus 20mg to try and get high and relapse with it all it does it make you tired AF but no real opiate buzz. If you take heroin, nothing happens.

Suboxone keeps your Mu receptors occupied and bound so tight so that ANY other opiate if introduced just goes on it's merry way and does nothing for feel or mood. When the buprenorphine in Suboxone binds to the Mu receptor it doesn't behave like any other opiate (including methadone) and only binds but doesn't activate or 'unlock' the 'feel good' response. Methadone on the other hand binds tightly to the Mu receptor and ALSO activates the feel good receptors to keep you feeling 'not sick' at the correct dose. If you up the dose of methadone you're high, if you lower it you're sick. If you keep it the same you're a functioning normal member of society who just 'isn't sick or high'. With suboxone you have to wait until you're in pretty bad withdrawal and then pop a 2mg tab under the tongue and you're good. They will then monitor how much you need to stay out of withdrawal and it usually caps at 8mg then you take that daily and it becomes like an antabuse for alcohlics except it's a deterrent for opiate relapse which instead of making you violently ill if you drink alcohol like antabuse, with suboxone simply nothing happens if you try to relapse.

In my opinion any addict who wants to keep the option open to get high when they choose to get high once in a while should take methadone. You can either slam extra methadone or take a high dose of another opiate which will still compete with the methadone at the Mu receptor and give you a bit of a high.

If you choose suboxone you're eliminating the ability to get high even with super high doses of any Mu agonist opiate even fentanyl. You'd have to "plan" your relapse and stop taking suboxone for at least a week or two to let the receptors open up to then get high using your opiate of choice.

I was on suboxone (under the tongue tab) daily for 10 years, then switched to sublicade (monthly injection of buprenorphine) which allowed them to taper me off with a lower injection amount monthly with no withdrawals. Clean now for 4.5 years off it all.

@toddthelineman will appreciate the receptor talk here
@vanlife_gymbum may consider switching to suboxone from methadone. It's doable you just have to let yourself go into a bad withdrawal and then switch over to suboxone at that point. If you take suboxone while on methadone it will kick off all the methadone and replace the methadone with buprenorphine and all the 'feel good' methadone attached to the Mu receptor will now be replaced by buprenorphine and eliminate the 'feel good' part and you'll get some serious withdrawal despite the fact your Mu receptors are all occupied by buprenorphine.
@stevesmi and @LevButlerov might appreciate the science of this as well.

Suboxone is revolutionary for opiate addicts and methadone doesn't hold up when compared to it at all. Methadone is really just another opiate it just binds stronger than the other opiates and was used in WW2 as their pain killer of choice on the battlefield.

Thanks for this man, that's awesome. 20mg is beyond the ceiling dose isn't it? I knew a guy on 36mg but they don't restrict it as much as methadone so they just keep chomping it. Didn't realise you took suboxone for that long and sublicade is the stuff I was trying to tell @BeMe about. It's still in trial here but I was big on the methadone subreddit and lots of Americans turning to that to avoid the insane layers of red tape to methadone in America.

I think to compare the two you need to factor in administration. I was shooting my take away doses at first and being high two days a week and in withdrawal two days a week, and the other three adjusting and that's the week gone.

But I cannot do that anumore now I've told on myself, so just because you could possibly do that doesn't mean I can. I wouldn't even be able to get it from the darkweb. I chose a rich suburb to dose in to avoid other scumbags so don't know any of those who get takeaways to buy and above all I just don't want to. Doesn't even occur to me but that doesn't mean I'm past methadone. I haven't given it much thought but after that awful taper earlier this year I'll be more careful fucking with it in the future.

The other thing is deep down I'm an alcoholic not a junkie. I fell into the opiates to manage my alcohol hangovers and probably could have just put it down if I wastent so physically dependant on it.

But I've done the AA method of stopping everything on and off for 8 years before trying a different route (methadone, cannabis, 12 steps, meditation, diet & exercise) that's atcually worked. I don't really care what the other degenerates at AA meetings think of me, but go and ask my Mum if I'm sober and her answer is what I care about. She looks like ten years younger now.

I agree with your sentiment but the sub to methadone transfer isn't that simple. I'll write out my own experience later today with PWD but check out reddit, the only people recommending that method are those who haven't done it. The rest say "shit don't do that!!" Methadone is not like the others.

Fastest route would be going to Cambodia, transfer back to herion while there, then take the few days of withdrawal to get on the suboxone, but you'd have to stay on herion for 3 or 4 months to clear the methadone. Methadone withdrawal feels like it's peaking on day 5, but in reality doesn't even START to peak until day 14, and that's before you'd be able to think about subs. I don't see it working. Even a dodgy Mexican ibogaine clinic rejected me for too high a dose.

 

[toddthelineman]

Fastest route would be going to Cambodia

Ok we’re not going to Cambodia lol. Damn it that sounded fun

doesn't even START to peak until day 14,

Man that is crazy. I used to bang a chick that took methadone to get high. She seemed fine for the most part. I think she may have been keeping secrets hahaha.

ibogaine clinic rejected me

Something that has intrigued me for a long long time. I didn’t know there were layers to it like that. I’ve heard it can do things fit Parkinson’s. Which my dad has from being poisoned in the marines. Parkinson’s is a dopamine disease. It makes sense

The strongest opiates I ever took consistently were morphine. Idk why, but I didn’t have a problem stopping them. No one else I knew liked them, too strong. I took them for months but not daily. I took hydrocodones for years though. Daily. And they just kind of dried up and I didn’t love it at all but I was ok. Took oxys like twice. Wasn’t impressed. They were small.

In a way, alcohol is kinda the worst. So insidious and always available.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

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[HarleyGuy]

Thanks for this man, that's awesome. 20mg is beyond the ceiling dose isn't it?

Ceiling dose in clinical trials was 32mg. Four 8mg tabs under the tongue. Turns out anything above 16mg is just added for the addicts mindset (peace of mind to appease them) but not because saturation doesn't happen under 16mg. In reality not much above 8mg is ever really needed.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I don't really care what the other degenerates at AA meetings think of me, but go and ask my Mum if I'm sober and her answer is what I care about. She looks like ten years younger now.

Good! Not everyone needs the 12-step program of AA full on, and yet you're very up on all of it intricacies and use it where it works for you.

I agree with your sentiment but the sub to methadone transfer isn't that simple. I'll write out my own experience later today with PWD but check out reddit, the only people recommending that method are those who haven't done it. The rest say "shit don't do that!!" Methadone is not like the others.

Agreed! It wasn't a nudge that you should rather be on suboxone or hint you're doing it wrong just a thought specifically regarding the sublicade as it's a monthly injection and keeps you from having to do that long walk every day to drink the orange funk. Methadones half life is about 36 hours and you aren't in steady state on methadone for about 5 days so imagine how long it takes to get out of your system to start withdrawal! Hence withdrawal not becoming unmanageable for some people until a week has passed and then all of a sudden a week later you have insomnia, chills, restless leg syndrome, sneezing, and everything hurts even the wind LOL.

Keep doing what's working for you. It works if you work it, and you're working it brother!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Good! Not everyone needs the 12-step program of AA full on, and yet you're very up on all of it intricacies and use it where it works for you.

Agreed! It wasn't a nudge that you should rather be on suboxone or hint you're doing it wrong just a thought specifically regarding the sublicade as it's a monthly injection and keeps you from having to do that long walk every day to drink the orange funk.

I didn't take it like that man, I atcually agree that suboxone is the superior drug for getting off and the sublocade (or vivatrol - is it just a different brand of the same thing?) Is even better. I got offered a place on the trial for it until they saw my methadone dose (120mg then) and wrote me a letter politely recinding their offer. I think it was polite, it was a mess anyway haha.

I just think once you're already on methadone it's too late to switch and I have zero faith in the bernese method or whatever it is where you reduce to 30mg then microdose suboxone... lots of people taper all the way off methadone then relapse, that seems like a good time to do the big month shot.

That month time frame of opiates not working would have totally worked for me. All the tricks I play on myself are to make irreversible decisions to take the deciding away from me.

Also agree with what toi said about picking methadone if you're not committed to being fully sober.

I seem to be being tested today, this hasn't happened before, but tomorrow must be a public holiday and since I changed pharmacies on weekends to accommodate working on the ship they do things differently at the new place and gave me a takehome instead of sending it to the 24 hour hospital pharmacy.

This atcually says what it is:

It says: 9ml BIODONE EXTRA FORTE 10mg/ml.

It used to be orange and full of sugar and 1mg/ml but on like the 10th arm amputation the government took the sugar out. Still, whacking even that 9ml dose is no walk in the park

Methadones half life is about 36 hours and you aren't in steady state on methadone for about 5 days so imagine how long it takes to get out of your system to start withdrawal! Hence withdrawal not becoming unmanageable for some people until a week has passed and then all of a sudden a week later you have insomnia, chills, restless leg syndrome, sneezing, and everything hurts even the wind LOL.

That's what I thought from my reading too. It's atcually pretty clever if you think about it seems people have an easier time coming of the buprenorphine than methadone but still looks like a pretty hardcore withdrawal in its own right... nowadays in the USA they're taking gabbapentin with it to deal with the withdrawal from the tranq cutters in the Mexican fentynal shit which are not opiates at all. Fuck that man.

Keep doing what's working for you. It works if you work it, and you're working it brother!

Thanks brother I appreciate that. I don't feel I'm going against 12 Step philosophy with what I'm doing, I believe Bill would have done the samw, especially to sleep too, that guy tries mainling Vitiman C to cure his depression and also went on Aldous Huxley's LSD clinical trials, he even tried ouji boards he was convinced candy was required to get over the DTs too which is not exactly stupid... on first glance.

He was experimenting like you and I are doing here. This is an extension of it, we're not turning our backs on core 12 step philosophy at all, I believe the steps are universal and unchangeable and the commitie that hammered them out for the book got it right the first time

 

[toddthelineman]

bet Todd has more carnivore secrets, that's why he's so cut.

Bro. Seriously, if you’re lion diet with no salt, it’s crazy, but like not even safe. You’d need to be living like a perfect natural life. The Bear didn’t eat salt either btw. He took all of his cues from Steffanson.

I might have pics I was pretty lean and natty but I ate disgusting amounts of fat. I looked about the same, just smaller, no delt cap. Stuff like that. The real truth is if you saw how little progress I’ve made for being on gear for years it’s kind of shameful. But that was never a huge priority for me. Just a nice side effect for my vanity and I honestly got way more puss when I looked more normal. Like way more.

 

[toddthelineman]

Here's the scanned copy but it has no search index, I'll try and make one:

https://justmeat.co/docs/the-fat-of-the-land-vilhjalmur-stefansson.pdf

Wow. This one is signed by The Bear and actually does have paragraph indentations. My paperback did not

 

[HarleyGuy]

Bro. Seriously, if you’re lion diet with no salt, it’s crazy, but like not even safe. You’d need to be living like a perfect natural life. The Bear didn’t eat salt either btw. He took all of his cues from Steffanson.

I might have pics I was pretty lean and natty but I ate disgusting amounts of fat. I looked about the same, just smaller, no delt cap. Stuff like that. The real truth is if you saw how little progress I’ve made for being on gear for years it’s kind of shameful. But that was never a huge priority for me. Just a nice side effect for my vanity and I honestly got way more puss when I looked more normal. Like way more.

Ya some chicks are weird, they get all wet looking at Aquaman and John Cena and then only wanna date the little men who look unimposing without any bite but are "nice" to them. Fuck those guys.

 

[toddthelineman]

Ya some chicks are weird, they get all wet looking at Aquaman and John Cena and then only wanna date the little men who look unimposing without any bite but are "nice" to them. Fuck those guys.

Well. That was never me. I wasn’t big, I’m still not, but I never ever looked like a pushover and I never was hahaha.

I always figured since I never was looking for fitness type chicks, when I got really really fit looking, it was kind of socially different. Very much got the impression that they were insecure about it. Including the last chick I was just seeing. Who had a freaking perfect mom bod. Like 115 pounds everything in the right places, and she’s constantly comparing and talking about her weight and always when I talk about lifting, which I barely talk about that with chicks. I told her I don’t care about that at all. I look the way I look almost entirely by accident and fit women look good but it’s not my kink.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Day 60: Last Log Entry
New Log & EQ Pin Day Tomorrow​

Tomorrow is EQ Pin Day and tomorrow I will start a new log for my first stacked cycle. I'm going to log for @SWOLENZ. Check out my touchdown thread for all the gear @SWOLENZ sent me a few days ago. And here's the touchdown thread for the 250mg/ml Equipoise ampules I got a week ago.

This is my cycle - I'll detail why I chose everything in my new log tomorrow. The doses, durations and some some of the compounds like proviron and mk677 were added after extensive back and forth on the forum and hammering out details.

I want to try and record the main points and important stuff from those conversations and summarise it for the archives and for my own future reference. I forget shit mid-sentence quite often, but Evo never forgets....

Testosterone 500mg​

Equipoise 250mg​

Turinabol 40mg (Weeks 1-6)​

Proviron 25mg Daily​

Anavar 40mg (Weeks 10 - 16)​

MK677 10mg​

Have put a lot of thought into this with the help of @LevButlerov and the community research thread on eq, the logs of so many people currently running equipoise and a bunch of past logs, I kept notes I'll type up sometime with links to my favourite bits.

@toddthelineman taught me heaps about gh and mk677 and gave me a lot to think about and try out. I'm going to copy some of his method. I think he's onto something good with some of this stuff.

And the tons of content about all of those compounds I learnt from @Mobster and @stevesmi and the podcast. All up there's soo much and it's taken months of hours a day at it. I've listened to all the episodes related to the above, even when stacked with things im not interested in, it's a mistake not to listen to those ones as there's just as much universal advice and info about the one you are interested in.

I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on them now and have prepped as well as possible and am ready to experiment with them myself now. I'll detail the preparations I did in my intro post on the new log tomorrow.

Been another week of high step totals as I still haven't fixed my van. My friend tried to jump start me but it's too flat, gotta take the battery out and get my other friend to charge it with his desk charger.

Two days over 30k is pretty good and even when I'm driving regularly again on my active rest days I'll start going on trail walls in the hills that surround my suburb and follow the coast around. There's epic nature walks right where I live, and sweet views of the city and the harbour on the other side.

And those steps up the hill trails count big time. You can stretch 5k steps out over a couple of hours if you go slow up the hill and stop at seat areas or bbqs and went around a few loops off the main trails. There's some old war ruins about 45 mins walk with a fire built in one of the empty concrete rooms that's open but not exposed to the wind so you don't set the whole mountain on fire

Week of steps

• Sunday 23,887
• Saturday 23,020
• Friday 20,493
• Thursday 23,681
• Wednesday 30,027
• Tuesday 21,486
• Monday 17,621
• Sunday 31,765

Did the majority of that fasted, but I have been feeling hungry tho I can choose to ignore it but it's still annoying. I upped retatrutide dose from 2mg to 2.5mg.

Fasted until 18:30, and had done over 20k steps before having my first shake. I'm out of eggs and money but I have the banana flavored whey back after the huge mistake of trying cookies and cream flavor that was the only low point in an otherwise flawless week on the 101g protein whey-egg-shakes.

My sense of peace and wellbeing has retuened. My serenity, as @HarleyGuy might put it.

I had my supplements with the shake, including the new milk thistle liver support, real-poor-man's n2guard.

Been taking 25mg of Proviron a day, today will be Day 3 of that. Might have to set a reminder, I forgot both mornings.

Have upped my testosterone dose to 500mg a week as of last Monday to keep the 2:1 testosterone to equipoise ratio with the 250mg/ml EQ ampules I got.

Not fucking around split dosing those, one a week all in one go is how I'm going to do them.

Loaded up the new ED pin dose amount of 0.29ml from the AUStarLabs bottle that's 250mg/ml concentration:

Hopefully starting turinabol this Thursday and I doubt I will forget that I was up at 6am one morning this last week at least and it's a far cry from the howling wind and sideways rain from the first few weeks of my Evo log where I made the 6:15am assault bike class.

It's not even dark, with daylight savings the sun's up, birds are chirping and people out jogging, chicks walking to the beach in wetsuits with their surfboards. It's sweet. I gotta fix my sleeping bullshit asap and get in on this early morning world.

I've registered for the class inside the gym app.

It's somewhat of a commitment... I have a lot of trouble waking up now I'm out of sync but I really want to start attending these group classes and keep my cardio high from multiple angles during this cycle.

If I can get intense fasted cardio like that in as part of my baseline for half an hour every weekday morning I would be off to a good start I think. It's an amazing way to wake up too, it makes me energised all morning. It's a good feeling but the cardio bit itself often sucks ass. It's really hard atcually, no breaks or rests either.

I've set my alarms and I'll try my best to get up. Not filled with confidence regarding that but...

 

[toddthelineman]

Week of steps

• Sunday 23,887
• Saturday 23,020
• Friday 20,493
• Thursday 23,681
• Wednesday 30,027
• Tuesday 21,486
• Monday 17,621
• Sunday 31,765

Steps King for sure. This is really helping you I think. Really gives you a prolonged time to be burning fat in a low stress state. Hills too? Excellent I think

I've set my alarms and I'll try my best to get up. Not filled with confidence regarding that...

Consistently going to sheep and waking up at the same time is really good.

 

[ceo]

Yeah bro blue collar workers are the worst at this, why don't their wives make them proper shit? Office workers are 50/50 I'd say, it's much more common to reheat stuff there though.

This is one if the powers of the carnivore diet I think, eliminating all processed crap in one go has a hug affect, then over a month or so your palet resets and being hungry stops being like a drug craving like it is with processed carbs. When this happens like a single grape can be overwhelming with sweetness, it's really crazy. They totally hijacked our taste sensors and they exploit that.

bros haha good point. my wife cooks for me so i cheating i guess

 

[HarleyGuy]

My sense of peace and wellbeing has retuened. My serenity, as @HarleyGuy might put it.

Yes! You remembered our DM's. A good sponsor checks on his sponsees serenity. Anything you put before that you will lose!

I've set my alarms and I'll try my best to get up. Not filled with confidence regarding that but..

I have multiple set throughout the day various ED tasks (even certain supps, etc)

 

[ROIDDERS]

Totally agree man, it just runs way deeper than I thought. At first glance bacon seemed to be a single ingredient food to me but it's not true. I'd didn't have as much trouble with sausages because they were always labelled and clearly and tons of shit in them. I started avoiding them ages ago because I couldn't atcually find any that would keep me under the keto limit of 30g carbs a day. The cheap ones especially have more carbs than bread sometimes

Yeah. As long as it's processed, you can't count it as a single ingredient. Food in my mind.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Day 60: Last Log Entry
New Log & EQ Pin Day Tomorrow​

Tomorrow is EQ Pin Day and tomorrow I will start a new log for my first stacked cycle. I'm going to log for @SWOLENZ. Check out my touchdown thread for all the gear @SWOLENZ sent me a few days ago. And here's the touchdown thread for the 250mg/ml Equipoise ampules I got a week ago.

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View attachment 133949

This is my cycle - I'll detail why I chose everything in my new log tomorrow. The doses, durations and some some of the compounds like proviron and mk677 were added after extensive back and forth on the forum and hammering out details.

I want to try and record the main points and important stuff from those conversations and summarise it for the archives and for my own future reference. I forget shit mid-sentence quite often, but Evo never forgets....

Testosterone 500mg​

Equipoise 250mg​

Turinabol 40mg (Weeks 1-6)​

Proviron 25mg Daily​

Anavar 40mg (Weeks 10 - 16)​

MK677 10mg​

Have put a lot of thought into this with the help of @LevButlerov and the community research thread on eq, the logs of so many people currently running equipoise and a bunch of past logs, I kept notes I'll type up sometime with links to my favourite bits.

View attachment 133974

@toddthelineman taught me heaps about gh and mk677 and gave me a lot to think about and try out. I'm going to copy some of his method. I think he's onto something good with some of this stuff.

And the tons of content about all of those compounds I learnt from @Mobster and @stevesmi and the podcast. All up there's soo much and it's taken months of hours a day at it. I've listened to all the episodes related to the above, even when stacked with things im not interested in, it's a mistake not to listen to those ones as there's just as much universal advice and info about the one you are interested in.

I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on them now and have prepped as well as possible and am ready to experiment with them myself now. I'll detail the preparations I did in my intro post on the new log tomorrow.

Been another week of high step totals as I still haven't fixed my van. My friend tried to jump start me but it's too flat, gotta take the battery out and get my other friend to charge it with his desk charger.

Two days over 30k is pretty good and even when I'm driving regularly again on my active rest days I'll start going on trail walls in the hills that surround my suburb and follow the coast around. There's epic nature walks right where I live, and sweet views of the city and the harbour on the other side.

And those steps up the hill trails count big time. You can stretch 5k steps out over a couple of hours if you go slow up the hill and stop at seat areas or bbqs and went around a few loops off the main trails. There's some old war ruins about 45 mins walk with a fire built in one of the empty concrete rooms that's open but not exposed to the wind so you don't set the whole mountain on fire

Week of steps

• Sunday 23,887
• Saturday 23,020
• Friday 20,493
• Thursday 23,681
• Wednesday 30,027
• Tuesday 21,486
• Monday 17,621
• Sunday 31,765

View attachment 133933

Did the majority of that fasted, but I have been feeling hungry tho I can choose to ignore it but it's still annoying. I upped retatrutide dose from 2mg to 2.5mg.

View attachment 133973

Fasted until 18:30, and had done over 20k steps before having my first shake. I'm out of eggs and money but I have the banana flavored whey back after the huge mistake of trying cookies and cream flavor that was the only low point in an otherwise flawless week on the 101g protein whey-egg-shakes.

View attachment 133951

My sense of peace and wellbeing has retuened. My serenity, as @HarleyGuy might put it.

I had my supplements with the shake, including the new milk thistle liver support, real-poor-man's n2guard.

View attachment 133950

Been taking 25mg of Proviron a day, today will be Day 3 of that. Might have to set a reminder, I forgot both mornings.

View attachment 133965

Have upped my testosterone dose to 500mg a week as of last Monday to keep the 2:1 testosterone to equipoise ratio with the 250mg/ml EQ ampules I got.

Not fucking around split dosing those, one a week all in one go is how I'm going to do them.

View attachment 133957

Loaded up the new ED pin dose amount of 0.29ml from the AUStarLabs bottle that's 250mg/ml concentration:

View attachment 133958

Hopefully starting turinabol this Thursday and I doubt I will forget that I was up at 6am one morning this last week at least and it's a far cry from the howling wind and sideways rain from the first few weeks of my Evo log where I made the 6:15am assault bike class.

It's not even dark, with daylight savings the sun's up, birds are chirping and people out jogging, chicks walking to the beach in wetsuits with their surfboards. It's sweet. I gotta fix my sleeping bullshit asap and get in on this early morning world.

I've registered for the class inside the gym app.

It's somewhat of a commitment... I have a lot of trouble waking up now I'm out of sync but I really want to start attending these group classes and keep my cardio high from multiple angles during this cycle.

If I can get intense fasted cardio like that in as part of my baseline for half an hour every weekday morning I would be off to a good start I think. It's an amazing way to wake up too, it makes me energised all morning. It's a good feeling but the cardio bit itself often sucks ass. It's really hard atcually, no breaks or rests either.

I've set my alarms and I'll try my best to get up. Not filled with confidence regarding that but...

@vanlife_gymbum legit work bro.....amazing consistency......

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

@vanlife_gymbum legit work bro.....amazing consistency......

Thanks brother, I appreciate that

I enjoyed reading through your logs, I just don't seem to get notifications since your logs are on a different forum but I manually check those ones every Sunday

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

bros haha good point. my wife cooks for me so i cheating i guess

Haha yeah bro you're doing well!!

 

[HarleyGuy]

@vanlife_gymbum Meant to tell ya... amazing touchdown shots too! You're all set for a cycle you've designed just for you and for your goals and through a lot of research and getting your diet and training in check as best you can! You're a model member brother!

 

[Allupfromhere]

Nice finish brother! Looking forward to the next chapter

 

[BeMe]

Day 60: Last Log Entry
New Log & EQ Pin Day Tomorrow​

Tomorrow is EQ Pin Day and tomorrow I will start a new log for my first stacked cycle. I'm going to log for @SWOLENZ. Check out my touchdown thread for all the gear @SWOLENZ sent me a few days ago. And here's the touchdown thread for the 250mg/ml Equipoise ampules I got a week ago.

View attachment 133946

View attachment 133949

This is my cycle - I'll detail why I chose everything in my new log tomorrow. The doses, durations and some some of the compounds like proviron and mk677 were added after extensive back and forth on the forum and hammering out details.

I want to try and record the main points and important stuff from those conversations and summarise it for the archives and for my own future reference. I forget shit mid-sentence quite often, but Evo never forgets....

Testosterone 500mg​

Equipoise 250mg​

Turinabol 40mg (Weeks 1-6)​

Proviron 25mg Daily​

Anavar 40mg (Weeks 10 - 16)​

MK677 10mg​

Have put a lot of thought into this with the help of @LevButlerov and the community research thread on eq, the logs of so many people currently running equipoise and a bunch of past logs, I kept notes I'll type up sometime with links to my favourite bits.

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@toddthelineman taught me heaps about gh and mk677 and gave me a lot to think about and try out. I'm going to copy some of his method. I think he's onto something good with some of this stuff.

And the tons of content about all of those compounds I learnt from @Mobster and @stevesmi and the podcast. All up there's soo much and it's taken months of hours a day at it. I've listened to all the episodes related to the above, even when stacked with things im not interested in, it's a mistake not to listen to those ones as there's just as much universal advice and info about the one you are interested in.

I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on them now and have prepped as well as possible and am ready to experiment with them myself now. I'll detail the preparations I did in my intro post on the new log tomorrow.

Been another week of high step totals as I still haven't fixed my van. My friend tried to jump start me but it's too flat, gotta take the battery out and get my other friend to charge it with his desk charger.

Two days over 30k is pretty good and even when I'm driving regularly again on my active rest days I'll start going on trail walls in the hills that surround my suburb and follow the coast around. There's epic nature walks right where I live, and sweet views of the city and the harbour on the other side.

And those steps up the hill trails count big time. You can stretch 5k steps out over a couple of hours if you go slow up the hill and stop at seat areas or bbqs and went around a few loops off the main trails. There's some old war ruins about 45 mins walk with a fire built in one of the empty concrete rooms that's open but not exposed to the wind so you don't set the whole mountain on fire

Week of steps

• Sunday 23,887
• Saturday 23,020
• Friday 20,493
• Thursday 23,681
• Wednesday 30,027
• Tuesday 21,486
• Monday 17,621
• Sunday 31,765

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Did the majority of that fasted, but I have been feeling hungry tho I can choose to ignore it but it's still annoying. I upped retatrutide dose from 2mg to 2.5mg.

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Fasted until 18:30, and had done over 20k steps before having my first shake. I'm out of eggs and money but I have the banana flavored whey back after the huge mistake of trying cookies and cream flavor that was the only low point in an otherwise flawless week on the 101g protein whey-egg-shakes.

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My sense of peace and wellbeing has retuened. My serenity, as @HarleyGuy might put it.

I had my supplements with the shake, including the new milk thistle liver support, real-poor-man's n2guard.

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Been taking 25mg of Proviron a day, today will be Day 3 of that. Might have to set a reminder, I forgot both mornings.

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Have upped my testosterone dose to 500mg a week as of last Monday to keep the 2:1 testosterone to equipoise ratio with the 250mg/ml EQ ampules I got.

Not fucking around split dosing those, one a week all in one go is how I'm going to do them.

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Loaded up the new ED pin dose amount of 0.29ml from the AUStarLabs bottle that's 250mg/ml concentration:

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Hopefully starting turinabol this Thursday and I doubt I will forget that I was up at 6am one morning this last week at least and it's a far cry from the howling wind and sideways rain from the first few weeks of my Evo log where I made the 6:15am assault bike class.

It's not even dark, with daylight savings the sun's up, birds are chirping and people out jogging, chicks walking to the beach in wetsuits with their surfboards. It's sweet. I gotta fix my sleeping bullshit asap and get in on this early morning world.

I've registered for the class inside the gym app.

It's somewhat of a commitment... I have a lot of trouble waking up now I'm out of sync but I really want to start attending these group classes and keep my cardio high from multiple angles during this cycle.

If I can get intense fasted cardio like that in as part of my baseline for half an hour every weekday morning I would be off to a good start I think. It's an amazing way to wake up too, it makes me energised all morning. It's a good feeling but the cardio bit itself often sucks ass. It's really hard atcually, no breaks or rests either.

I've set my alarms and I'll try my best to get up. Not filled with confidence regarding that but...

Those are some sweet looking EQ amps. That should fit in very nicely with your lifestyle. You'll be Tony Hawk in no time lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 60: Last Log Entry
New Log & EQ Pin Day Tomorrow​

Tomorrow is EQ Pin Day and tomorrow I will start a new log for my first stacked cycle. I'm going to log for @SWOLENZ. Check out my touchdown thread for all the gear @SWOLENZ sent me a few days ago. And here's the touchdown thread for the 250mg/ml Equipoise ampules I got a week ago.

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This is my cycle - I'll detail why I chose everything in my new log tomorrow. The doses, durations and some some of the compounds like proviron and mk677 were added after extensive back and forth on the forum and hammering out details.

I want to try and record the main points and important stuff from those conversations and summarise it for the archives and for my own future reference. I forget shit mid-sentence quite often, but Evo never forgets....

Testosterone 500mg​

Equipoise 250mg​

Turinabol 40mg (Weeks 1-6)​

Proviron 25mg Daily​

Anavar 40mg (Weeks 10 - 16)​

MK677 10mg​

Have put a lot of thought into this with the help of @LevButlerov and the community research thread on eq, the logs of so many people currently running equipoise and a bunch of past logs, I kept notes I'll type up sometime with links to my favourite bits.

View attachment 133974

@toddthelineman taught me heaps about gh and mk677 and gave me a lot to think about and try out. I'm going to copy some of his method. I think he's onto something good with some of this stuff.

And the tons of content about all of those compounds I learnt from @Mobster and @stevesmi and the podcast. All up there's soo much and it's taken months of hours a day at it. I've listened to all the episodes related to the above, even when stacked with things im not interested in, it's a mistake not to listen to those ones as there's just as much universal advice and info about the one you are interested in.

I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on them now and have prepped as well as possible and am ready to experiment with them myself now. I'll detail the preparations I did in my intro post on the new log tomorrow.

Been another week of high step totals as I still haven't fixed my van. My friend tried to jump start me but it's too flat, gotta take the battery out and get my other friend to charge it with his desk charger.

Two days over 30k is pretty good and even when I'm driving regularly again on my active rest days I'll start going on trail walls in the hills that surround my suburb and follow the coast around. There's epic nature walks right where I live, and sweet views of the city and the harbour on the other side.

And those steps up the hill trails count big time. You can stretch 5k steps out over a couple of hours if you go slow up the hill and stop at seat areas or bbqs and went around a few loops off the main trails. There's some old war ruins about 45 mins walk with a fire built in one of the empty concrete rooms that's open but not exposed to the wind so you don't set the whole mountain on fire

Week of steps

• Sunday 23,887
• Saturday 23,020
• Friday 20,493
• Thursday 23,681
• Wednesday 30,027
• Tuesday 21,486
• Monday 17,621
• Sunday 31,765

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Did the majority of that fasted, but I have been feeling hungry tho I can choose to ignore it but it's still annoying. I upped retatrutide dose from 2mg to 2.5mg.

View attachment 133973

Fasted until 18:30, and had done over 20k steps before having my first shake. I'm out of eggs and money but I have the banana flavored whey back after the huge mistake of trying cookies and cream flavor that was the only low point in an otherwise flawless week on the 101g protein whey-egg-shakes.

View attachment 133951

My sense of peace and wellbeing has retuened. My serenity, as @HarleyGuy might put it.

I had my supplements with the shake, including the new milk thistle liver support, real-poor-man's n2guard.

View attachment 133950

Been taking 25mg of Proviron a day, today will be Day 3 of that. Might have to set a reminder, I forgot both mornings.

View attachment 133965

Have upped my testosterone dose to 500mg a week as of last Monday to keep the 2:1 testosterone to equipoise ratio with the 250mg/ml EQ ampules I got.

Not fucking around split dosing those, one a week all in one go is how I'm going to do them.

View attachment 133957

Loaded up the new ED pin dose amount of 0.29ml from the AUStarLabs bottle that's 250mg/ml concentration:

View attachment 133958

Hopefully starting turinabol this Thursday and I doubt I will forget that I was up at 6am one morning this last week at least and it's a far cry from the howling wind and sideways rain from the first few weeks of my Evo log where I made the 6:15am assault bike class.

It's not even dark, with daylight savings the sun's up, birds are chirping and people out jogging, chicks walking to the beach in wetsuits with their surfboards. It's sweet. I gotta fix my sleeping bullshit asap and get in on this early morning world.

I've registered for the class inside the gym app.

It's somewhat of a commitment... I have a lot of trouble waking up now I'm out of sync but I really want to start attending these group classes and keep my cardio high from multiple angles during this cycle.

If I can get intense fasted cardio like that in as part of my baseline for half an hour every weekday morning I would be off to a good start I think. It's an amazing way to wake up too, it makes me energised all morning. It's a good feeling but the cardio bit itself often sucks ass. It's really hard atcually, no breaks or rests either.

I've set my alarms and I'll try my best to get up. Not filled with confidence regarding that but...

Good close to your log, full prep done and the new cycle layout looks well thought out! The 500 test and 250 EQ base with tbol start is perfect and I can see you really improving on this cycle. I was happy to discuss it with you.

I really like your shake, even it's limited, it's the protein kick you needed end day. With all the fasting cardio you're doing, you're going to get maximum lean and big.

You’ve built this with good structure and learned a lot across the EVO family, so next log will be big!!! @vanlife_gymbum
Start strong tomorrow, EVO family love and support your way!

 

[RoySimpson]

Day 58: Added Proviron
Turinabol just sitting there...​

Was a very successful trip to the PO Box yesterday thanks to @SWOLENZ. I've now joined his team of loggers, @Xinxai94 & @trentwin1 so as far as I know @SWOLENZ now has all the kiwi loggers on Evo now.

I did my first equipoise pin on Monday before we'd figured this out so next Monday which will be Day 7 or 8 of this cycle I will launch a new log for that cycle and then wind this one up and summarise it.

The general idea to try out that was figured out with the forum and @LevButlerov in particular in weeks 1 and 2 was to bypass all the usual cutting stuff and try and combine the new GLP-1 drugs with Testosterone Therapy and see if my low testosterone symptoms subside while I try and loose weight and change my diet to lean down a bit, get rid of the tits and gut I've been carrying around for two decades, and get to a baseline to blast from there, and I think it worked.

The testosterone therapy worked amazingly well. I knew it would because the government bent over backwards to keep me from it, including keeping me from doing anything about it myself. Lucky for the local woman on Tinder I don't listen to authority figures unless they have badges on underground forums and government health officials are way too lame for that.

There was a guy who used clenbuterol in his first cycle on the forum recently. It blows my mind that there's coaches out there that would tell newbies to gym culture to do clenbuterol on day 1 seriously that's fucked up.

But it's also a lame idea and won't work. Not like retatrutide will, to give you control of your diet enough to execute a plan from paper you've figured out to modify your diet and eating habits, drop all the shit that lead you here.

Ever since I figured that out I've been in a heavy calorie deficit while still hitting 400g protein a day via egg and whey shakes. I will be losing weight faster than someone eating normally on clenbuterol and I bet my insides look better, despite prior abuse. Your body heals itself if you let it.

Descaling rust on the steamship today, which has the public bathroom with the sharps-bin you can rest your phone on to take photos and I'll get new one for the new log.

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Anyway, added more steriods !! I should have eaten them before posting my intentions as I was one again intercepted by @LevButlerov who advised me to go slow and just add the provion this week. Just trying to save all the gains for himself most likely but it's only a week.

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Nice presses and has a dry pack in there too, very nice. Have added 25mg a day of that now and hopefully will add to the eq and help with estrogen management stuff, that's my hope for it anyway but it's also interesting in and of itself I guess. Also got trim milk to try test my fat tolerance (medium-low) but likely a one off:

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And then just sitting there doing nothing:

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Cannot wait to try that shit but I'll save you a few pageloads today and leave it for next week.

Went for delt today and had my retatrutide pin too. New dose of 2.5mg a week up from 2mg.

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All shakes on point, no eating until I made rice last night to take two hours before the gym but it wiped me out and I woke up at 3am on the couch confused and didn't finish the other half of leg day. It's now leg week.

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I went back to the big gym today, it's atcually about 90 steps closer to my van than the other one. Same brand of body scale is cool tho, downward trend continues:

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It's just so much better to lift at and I gotta up my ab training. I was atcually above average when measured on the Captins Chair by my PT with his NASM book or whatever it was but I haven't been going. Been spoiled by massage chairs and projected screens and private showers no children over the road I forgot about lifting.

Did like 5 sets of 25 alternating between straight leg and bent knee. If you're trying to focus on something in front of you, straight leg can knock your vision a bit and can throw you off course but bent knee you can stay focused and when she's moved on you can go back to straight leg.

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Definitely better than or different to the Nautilus Ab Crunches machine. Maybe it's working other stuff too but felt a lot harder and after-effects didn't just vanish like usual.

They also have every type of calf raise and leg curl machine you can imagine and I didn't theee sets of 12 but forgot what weight I had it at, I whacked it up by ten for the last set and the reps burnt.

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Will post the rest of leg day once I complete it.

@vanlife_gymbum awesome log right here bro!

 

[ceo]

Haha yeah bro you're doing well!!

bros yeah i get the best food even when i come home smelling like sewage

 

[ballin2504]

Day 58: Added Proviron
Turinabol just sitting there...​

Was a very successful trip to the PO Box yesterday thanks to @SWOLENZ. I've now joined his team of loggers, @Xinxai94 & @trentwin1 so as far as I know @SWOLENZ now has all the kiwi loggers on Evo now.

I did my first equipoise pin on Monday before we'd figured this out so next Monday which will be Day 7 or 8 of this cycle I will launch a new log for that cycle and then wind this one up and summarise it.

The general idea to try out that was figured out with the forum and @LevButlerov in particular in weeks 1 and 2 was to bypass all the usual cutting stuff and try and combine the new GLP-1 drugs with Testosterone Therapy and see if my low testosterone symptoms subside while I try and loose weight and change my diet to lean down a bit, get rid of the tits and gut I've been carrying around for two decades, and get to a baseline to blast from there, and I think it worked.

The testosterone therapy worked amazingly well. I knew it would because the government bent over backwards to keep me from it, including keeping me from doing anything about it myself. Lucky for the local woman on Tinder I don't listen to authority figures unless they have badges on underground forums and government health officials are way too lame for that.

There was a guy who used clenbuterol in his first cycle on the forum recently. It blows my mind that there's coaches out there that would tell newbies to gym culture to do clenbuterol on day 1 seriously that's fucked up.

But it's also a lame idea and won't work. Not like retatrutide will, to give you control of your diet enough to execute a plan from paper you've figured out to modify your diet and eating habits, drop all the shit that lead you here.

Ever since I figured that out I've been in a heavy calorie deficit while still hitting 400g protein a day via egg and whey shakes. I will be losing weight faster than someone eating normally on clenbuterol and I bet my insides look better, despite prior abuse. Your body heals itself if you let it.

Descaling rust on the steamship today, which has the public bathroom with the sharps-bin you can rest your phone on to take photos and I'll get new one for the new log.

View attachment 133339

Anyway, added more steriods !! I should have eaten them before posting my intentions as I was one again intercepted by @LevButlerov who advised me to go slow and just add the provion this week. Just trying to save all the gains for himself most likely but it's only a week.

View attachment 133340

Nice presses and has a dry pack in there too, very nice. Have added 25mg a day of that now and hopefully will add to the eq and help with estrogen management stuff, that's my hope for it anyway but it's also interesting in and of itself I guess. Also got trim milk to try test my fat tolerance (medium-low) but likely a one off:

View attachment 133342

And then just sitting there doing nothing:

View attachment 133343

Cannot wait to try that shit but I'll save you a few pageloads today and leave it for next week.

Went for delt today and had my retatrutide pin too. New dose of 2.5mg a week up from 2mg.

View attachment 133348

View attachment 133349

All shakes on point, no eating until I made rice last night to take two hours before the gym but it wiped me out and I woke up at 3am on the couch confused and didn't finish the other half of leg day. It's now leg week.

View attachment 133347

I went back to the big gym today, it's atcually about 90 steps closer to my van than the other one. Same brand of body scale is cool tho, downward trend continues:

View attachment 133346

It's just so much better to lift at and I gotta up my ab training. I was atcually above average when measured on the Captins Chair by my PT with his NASM book or whatever it was but I haven't been going. Been spoiled by massage chairs and projected screens and private showers no children over the road I forgot about lifting.

Did like 5 sets of 25 alternating between straight leg and bent knee. If you're trying to focus on something in front of you, straight leg can knock your vision a bit and can throw you off course but bent knee you can stay focused and when she's moved on you can go back to straight leg.

View attachment 133344

Definitely better than or different to the Nautilus Ab Crunches machine. Maybe it's working other stuff too but felt a lot harder and after-effects didn't just vanish like usual.

They also have every type of calf raise and leg curl machine you can imagine and I didn't theee sets of 12 but forgot what weight I had it at, I whacked it up by ten for the last set and the reps burnt.

View attachment 133345

Will post the rest of leg day once I complete it.

@vanlife_gymbum I can’t believe a coach would give a first cycle user clen as a recommendation. Some people don’t care about clients just the money. Anyways great update man.

 

[LevButlerov]

please move to the new log of @vanlife_gymbum here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...quipoise-proviron-blast-and-cruise-log.107318