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I posted here a couple months ago, still struggling with ED after nandrolone and test prop cycle. For a long time, I thought it was prolactin because prolactin was at 20. But now my prolactin is back where it should be ,testosterone is 530, and my estrogen came back last week at 167. I have been suffering ED and atrophy for months now. I am currently duking it out with my urologist to prescribe an estrogen blocker but she's afraid to because I am a type 1 Diabetic since 4 years old. Do any of you know what side effects it is that she may be so concerned with?
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear about your problems and this lifestyle must be hard being a diabetic. Props to doing something already hard for most people with additional medical hurdles.
I'm curious as to why your estrogen would be high in the first place with everything else back to normal. I'm guessing the pros would want to see the rest of your hormonal values to get a better picture of whats going on.
I'm curious as to why your estrogen would be high in the first place with everything else back to normal. I'm guessing the pros would want to see the rest of your hormonal values to get a better picture of whats going on.
Thanks guys I appreciate the input. I took steves advice a few months ago back in November and checked test, estrogen and both T3 and T4. Prolactin was 20 then and estrogen was 39. Testosterone was 697.
As of last week, my testosterone was down to 487, prolactin at 14, and estrogen at 167. I have been off all gear and ancilliaries now for months. I don't know why things are going awry so long after being off. Why the estrogen spike now? Doesn't that usually happen on cycle?
As of last week, my testosterone was down to 487, prolactin at 14, and estrogen at 167. I have been off all gear and ancilliaries now for months. I don't know why things are going awry so long after being off. Why the estrogen spike now? Doesn't that usually happen on cycle?
When you use an AI that isn't a suicide AI like arimidex or letrozole, you will experience an estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage. That's why you always hear me recommend aromasin over arimidex.
You need to get on an AI ASAP to bring that estrogen level down. You are really risking getting gyno with how high your estrogen levels are.
Either get aromasin or order liquidex ai from n2bm.com. Liquidex ai contains the suicide ai arimistane. Both are equally good options.
You need to get on an AI ASAP to bring that estrogen level down. You are really risking getting gyno with how high your estrogen levels are.
Either get aromasin or order liquidex ai from n2bm.com. Liquidex ai contains the suicide ai arimistane. Both are equally good options.
I am watching this thread because I'm interested as that goes against how I understand an AI to work and what could be going on.
from what I understand (I could be wrong) taking an AI only stops further aromatization - it doesn't do anything to the estrogen already in your system.
So say it was rebound. Shouldn't the extra estrogen have been metabolized by now? If so would he be better off with a SERM?
from what I understand (I could be wrong) taking an AI only stops further aromatization - it doesn't do anything to the estrogen already in your system.
So say it was rebound. Shouldn't the extra estrogen have been metabolized by now? If so would he be better off with a SERM?
An AI stops testosterone from aromatizing into estrogen. Some aromatization will always take place. Your body senses that the aromatization is being suppressed and will increase the production of these enzymes. When you stop using an AI that isn't a suicide AI, the enzymes in your body responsible for aromatization are spiked but since you are no longer using that AI, the aromatization into estrogen is much higher then normal and your estrogen levels sky rocket.
It's kind of like how you experience a huge weight gain rebound after using T3.
It does seem like some estrogen rebound here. Sounds like the doctor wants to see if things will normalize on their own without prescribing drugs. Doctors can be weird about prescribing anti-E drugs to men for some reason. Some guys even have this problem on TRT.
In your case I would run some aromasin. Don't go crazy, just a low dose. Maybe something like 5-6mg EOD. Just follow up with bloods again after a couple weeks and definitely track how you are feeling.
In your case I would run some aromasin. Don't go crazy, just a low dose. Maybe something like 5-6mg EOD. Just follow up with bloods again after a couple weeks and definitely track how you are feeling.
bro go with ag guys or sarms1...both golden
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Ag-guys never let down with aromasin or caber for sure
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