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Evolving from trt

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Hi everyone, I've been on TRT for the past two years and am now ready for something stronger. I currently take test cyp .5 - 1ml, 2x week Plus anastrozole and HCG. Recommendations?

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Well, you would need to tell us about your training, stats, and exactly what dosage of test cypionate you are taking, as different brands may have different mg per ml ratios. All in all, you want to do a blast, and for this you would need to increase the test dosage, and add in there some other compound. Which compound will depend on your goals - if you are all after mass, or you want quality lean mas...
 
I usually train 4 days/ week. 6' 2" - 210 lbs. Right now my dose is 1ml Mon, Thurs & Sun for example.... So every third day. The test cyp is by Watson...200 mg/ ml. The Anastrozole was hurting my joints so I've been taking a half pill, same night as my test dose. Estrogen may b a little high...I can usually tell when I'm crying at Geico commercials, jk. The HCG is same day as test & same schedule .5ml, 1000IU/ ml.

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Oh and I would like to build mass. My heart rate really picks up w the test so I'm a lil nervous bout that with stronger gear, what u think? Will it b beating outta my chest?

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chuck the hcg you don't need it so you are 200mg a week cyp ? what are your test levels on that dose ?
how old are you
 
It would b 600 mg/ week... T levels on that dose is around 2000. 37 yrs

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that's no trt dose bro lol and no way dr realy keeps your lvls that high 2000 hows you blood pressure and cholestorl at that dose

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you too high for trt 1000 is a bit high but 2000 unless im misunderstanding what you wrote
 
Lol yea lil heavy but I don't live like they all the time... Got a doc in FL thats not too strict. She started me on that dose (on accident) n it was amazing.. Total body recomp! My t levels were only 205 prior. I stock pile a few mo by dropping down to .5 ml/ 300mg/ week. That puts me at around 1000.

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Lol yea lil heavy but I don't live like they all the time... Got a doc in FL thats not too strict. She started me on that dose (on accident) n it was amazing.. Total body recomp! My t levels were only 205 prior. I stock pile a few mo by dropping down to .5 ml/ 300mg/ week. That puts me at around 1000.

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if you cruise on that dose for a long time it will strain your cholesterol and heart health. that is kind of counter productive to the whole goal of being on TRT for health benefits.

600mg a week of test is a cycle worth dose in its own right
 
Cruising at 600mg/week for a long duration of time is a TERRIBLE idea. You are going to put yourself at a significant risk for prostate cancer. Not only that, you are going to burn out your receptors.

My advice to you is to lower your TRT dosage to 200mg/week and do a 12 week cycle of SARMS. SARMS work on a completely different pathway so you will give your receptors a break and still make fantastic gains. Arguably even better then what you are getting now. Here's what I recommend you do for the next 12 weeks.

weeks 1 - 12
testosterone 200mg/week
s4 50mg/day (25mg AM 25mg PM)
ostarine 25mg/day
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)
aromasin 10mg EOD (Much better AI choice then arimidex)

You can order everything from sarms1.com and ag-guys.com.
 
Much appreciated advise! I will check out those sites n might come back with some questions. I seen that ashop had good reviews? But never ordered from them. R those sites u recommended trustworthy?

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200mg/ wk puts me at about 800. Wondering if I should try to come off totally or just drop back down to trt? Kinda afraid to totally come off to b honest. Has anyone successfully come totally off?

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200mg/ wk puts me at about 800. Wondering if I should try to come off totally or just drop back down to trt? Kinda afraid to totally come off to b honest. Has anyone successfully come totally off?

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bro I would come off slower then just drop down...like 200mgs/week...but completely off trt is a problem...
 
After the 12 weeks should I just go back to 200mg/ week?

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Yes, after your cycle return to your TRT dosage of 200mg/week.

You want to maintain normal-high testosterone levels when 'cruising'. Being above the high range long term is not a good idea and will put you a significantly elevated risk for developing cancer.

As a general rule, time on = time off. Do a 12 week cycle, cruise at 12 weeks at 200mg/week etc.

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Much appreciated advise! I will check out those sites n might come back with some questions. I seen that ashop had good reviews? But never ordered from them. R those sites u recommended trustworthy?

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I can vouch for sarms1.com, ag-guys.com and n2bm.com. All 3 companies are run by stand up individuals and produce quality products.
 
This is one huge TRT you are having. If other bodybuilders knew about your doc, she would have the most TRT customers on planet earth - 600 mgs of prescribed test...damn. That sounds like a blast, definitely not a cruise. Therefore, run a full cycle, and then go down to 200 mgs for cruising. As for the above mentioned companies, they are very good, and I am their permanent customer - in many years I have never had a problem with them.
 
Very true Lol...good feedback! Just watched a good vid by Dylan on taking sarms. Seems easy enough

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the longer you stay on the harder and longer it will take to recover

you asked if anyone had every stayed on for over a year and been able to come off. I do recall a few years back someone who had been on for years straight attempt to come off and pct. it didn't go well.

steroids won't kill ya, but they definitely can fuck up your HPTA for life if you abuse them which you have from what you have said
 
I've kept the testes producing with the HCG and only go heavy for a few months at a time then drop down to 200mg/ wk for a few months. Hopefully my system isn't all jacked up.

I was thinking my dose was pansy ass? I feel good n energy is high just not packing on the muscle as fast as I'd like ...this is why I was thinking of stepping it up to something new. I hear people at gym luvin sust but didn't know if that was a good step up? Or just try our sarms? Gotta research that a bit. Didn't want an oral to mess up my liver. Maybe it doesn't work like that tho

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I would run your cruise at 200mg/week and get bloods. See where that puts your levels. Ideally you want to be at the upper normal range. I would find your sweet spot and maybe run SARMS for a bit just to let your body come back to a new "normal". See how that treats you and then plan out a next cycle. We can set you up with a great run based on your goals at that time.
 
Don't get caught up in what a trt dose is. It is whatever dose gets you to free test blood level of 700 and total test of 24-31 (canadian values). For example I need 360 mg of test cypionate (prescribed by my doctor) to get my free test to 700. Some people will only need 100 or 200, everyone is different. But having test levels of 2000 is not trt in no way at all. Keeping your test levels at or just below 700 is a healthy amount and does not put you at risk of developing cardiac issues or prostate issues. So do your blast at whatever dose you want and then drop your dose to what gets your test levels to the safe amount.
 
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