Experimental cycle

[FckAverage]

Currently 5"7 185 rain would say maybe 10% bodyfat. I'm not trying to get bigger. Goal is to be fuller , dryer, leaner at a lower weight. Possibly 160?

Wanted to try something....

Test e 200mg Monday
Masteron e 800mg Monday
Proviron 100mg
Anavar 50mg
T3 75 mcg
Clen 2 on 2 off 100mcg


Never had issues with hair loss. I ran tren mast and test extensively with no issues....

 

[Nordic F]

up the test to 400. down the mast to 600. i wouldn't stack t3 and clen together. your bf% doesn't warrant any fat burners anyways. just diet hard and do cardio

 

[Sucker Punch]

Agree with Nordic F. Still if you use the clen drop the dose to 20mcg to start. 100 is high IMO

 

[muskate]

There is honestly quite a bit I would change with your cycle but the biggest things that jump out at me are:

1. You need to use a liver aid. Any carbon 17 alpha alkylated steroid (anavar) is going to be very hard on your liver. I recommend n2guard from n2bm.com at 7 capsules/day.
http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-GUARD-p75.html

2. I personally wouldn't use T3 or clenbuterol. Both are very harsh stimulants that cause insomnia and muscle cramps in most users. Not only that, neither of them differentiate between fat or muscle. You run a significantly increased chance of loosing muscle mass when supplementing with either.

Cardarine GW stacked with n2slin is going to be your best option.
http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/F...2Slin-p50.html
http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/
Cardarine is drug that binds to the PPAR receptor and is non-hormonal. Cardarine increases the expression of genes involved in the expenditure of energy, stimulates glucose uptake in skeletal muscle tissue and burns fat by stimulating fatty acid oxidation.
N2slin is a non-stimulant fat burner and powerful nutrient partitioner. It increases insulin sensitivity of muscle cells and helps partition the food you eat into muscle cells and away from fat cells.
Take 20mg of cardarine gw per day. 10mg AM 10mg PM
Take 2 tablets N2slin 30 minutes before each meal you eat that contains a significant amount of carbohydrates.

Both are stimulant free and non-hormonal.

 

[FckAverage]

There is honestly quite a bit I would change with your cycle but the biggest things that jump out at me are:

1. You need to use a liver aid. Any carbon 17 alpha alkylated steroid (anavar) is going to be very hard on your liver. I recommend n2guard from n2bm.com at 7 capsules/day.
http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-GUARD-p75.html

2. I personally wouldn't use T3 or clenbuterol. Both are very harsh stimulants that cause insomnia and muscle cramps in most users. Not only that, neither of them differentiate between fat or muscle. You run a significantly increased chance of loosing muscle mass when supplementing with either.

Cardarine GW stacked with n2slin is going to be your best option.
http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/F...2Slin-p50.html
http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/
Cardarine is drug that binds to the PPAR receptor and is non-hormonal. Cardarine increases the expression of genes involved in the expenditure of energy, stimulates glucose uptake in skeletal muscle tissue and burns fat by stimulating fatty acid oxidation.
N2slin is a non-stimulant fat burner and powerful nutrient partitioner. It increases insulin sensitivity of muscle cells and helps partition the food you eat into muscle cells and away from fat cells.
Take 20mg of cardarine gw per day. 10mg AM 10mg PM
Take 2 tablets N2slin 30 minutes before each meal you eat that contains a significant amount of carbohydrates.

Both are stimulant free and non-hormonal.

Thank you for the reply.

I have read that GW caused cancer in mice. I've read the article here refuting that claim but there's other studies... I'm staying away from that ..already doing enough damage w the drugs mentioned. Why add something in that could possibly really make things worse ... :/

 

[muskate]

Thank you for the reply.

I have read that GW caused cancer in mice. I've read the article here refuting that claim but there's other studies... I'm staying away from that ..already doing enough damage w the drugs mentioned. Why add something in that could possibly really make things worse ... :/

The dosages the rats were given equate to dosages that no human in their right mind would take. Anything taken in excess will cause cancer. Take an entire bottle of Advil per day and you will develop cancer as well.

Do your own research and make your own decisions but in my personal opinion, there is nothing to worry about with supplementing with cardarine GW.

 

[stevesmi]

I would encourage you to gain some experience with T3 and clen before upping your dosages

 

[LevButlerov]

Currently 5"7 185 rain would say maybe 10% bodyfat. I'm not trying to get bigger. Goal is to be fuller , dryer, leaner at a lower weight. Possibly 160?

Wanted to try something....

Test e 200mg Monday
Masteron e 800mg Monday
Proviron 100mg
Anavar 50mg
T3 75 mcg
Clen 2 on 2 off 100mcg


Never had issues with hair loss. I ran tren mast and test extensively with no issues....

You need to increase the test dosage to at least 300 mgs for noticeable results. The masteron dosage in excessive in my opinion - 400 mgs should be plenty. Don't use clen and T3 - these two drugs were never meant for fat loss, and at these dosages they will cause a lot of side effects. Besides, they will also eat up the hard gained lean mass, which is not cool at all. Cardarine is a much better choice - it is more effective, and will not cause side effects. As for the cancer concerns, the dosages given to these mice were equal, if I am not mistaken, to a human taking 15 000 mgs of a long period of time. Compare that to 12.5 mgs for a limited amount of time. In such case you should not be using a microwawe either, as it also gives radiation, and can potentially lead to cancer over a long time use. Everything is relative in this world.

 

[ritchie]

Let us know how it goes! Sometimes unconventional stuff works for whatever reason!
No need for liver care, the liver will fix itself.

If you've never done clen, start low, like 20mcg, work your way up, if not, as you were!!!