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First Cycle Log

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maximumeffort

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Been hovering around this site, decided to post first cycle log here.

Stats:

22yo
6'1''
220
18% bf (little bulky right now, wanted a solid base before cycle)

Lifts:

Bench: 315
Deadlift: 525
Squat: 420


Cycle Layout:

Test E 500mg split 2x a week Mon/Thurs

Cycle lasting 12 weeks

Ai on hand Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD will use only if necesssary

PCT:

GW 20mg a day

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20

(dont believe in tapering off)

Using a 23G 1.5 inch needle for drawing and injecting

Have injected twice so far so bordering on week 2; I believe I'm quite good at injections for a beginner because have little to no pip after injection.

Will update on macros/micros and progress/sides

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few things i'm interested in doing but not sure about adding for first cycle is either adding dbol weeks 2-6 and/pr test prop as a finisher during weeks 12-14 as a bridge to pct @100mg EOD
 
Overall, the cycle looks good. However, you should be using Aromasin right from the beginning, and not just when supposedly needed. Keep in mind that your estrogen levels will start to build up from the moment you will do that first injection. Remember - it is much easier to prevent side effects, rather than deal with them and their consequences once they take place.

The PCT looks rather good, but you would be much better off if you also added in there some good natural testosterone booster, such as HCGenerate ES.

All in all, will be looking forward to your progress - I am sure that the cycle will work out great for you if you will use the AI properly.
 
i agree with lev on the AI.. use it from day 1!! by the time you start noticing problems that means your estrogen is already sky high!!

also your pct needs work. not only is the 2 SERM pct garbage, but you also are not stretching it out long enough. if you do a short pct you should do a pct into bridge too. add hcgenerate

also use the GW on cycle so you can kill your workouts
 
LevButlerov said:
Overall, the cycle looks good. However, you should be using Aromasin right from the beginning, and not just when supposedly needed. Keep in mind that your estrogen levels will start to build up from the moment you will do that first injection. Remember - it is much easier to prevent side effects, rather than deal with them and their consequences once they take place.

The PCT looks rather good, but you would be much better off if you also added in there some good natural testosterone booster, such as HCGenerate ES.

All in all, will be looking forward to your progress - I am sure that the cycle will work out great for you if you will use the AI properly.
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I just took my third injection this morning so starting Aromasin 12.5 EOD today to keep estro to a minimum, was thinking of running prop 100 as a bridge to pct, have heard of doing before but unsure.

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I will probably be running a test booster during that time just did not add into log, something like tongkat ali, hcgen, etc.
 
maximumeffort said:
I just took my third injection this morning so starting Aromasin 12.5 EOD today to keep estro to a minimum, was thinking of running prop 100 as a bridge to pct, have heard of doing before but unsure.

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I will probably be running a test booster during that time just did not add into log, something like tongkat ali, hcgen, etc.
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For a first cycle I would keep things really simple and just do a testosterone only cycle for 12 weeks.

No need to run test prop as a bridge to your PCT. Just finish off your cycle, wait 2 weeks and then start your PCT.

If you want to bridge with something during the time after your cycle and before your PCT - run a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com
 
muskate said:
For a first cycle I would keep things really simple and just do a testosterone only cycle for 12 weeks.

No need to run test prop as a bridge to your PCT. Just finish off your cycle, wait 2 weeks and then start your PCT.

If you want to bridge with something during the time after your cycle and before your PCT - run a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com
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Cool, thanks. Definitely will hold off on any other compounds to see how I react to test. For me this cycle is more of a recomp.

Also does anyone know if using a product such as gat nitraflex on cycle (has test boosting properties) good to go on cycle?


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Seems like a pretty good first cycle layout. You will likely have to cut a bit after this cycle because you will inevitably add some body fat.

I don't think adding that test booster makes much sense on cycle because you will be shut down anyways. The only test boosting product I might add is HCGenerate because it will actually help to keep your balls closer to normal size.
 
Masonic Bodybuilder said:
Seems like a pretty good first cycle layout. You will likely have to cut a bit after this cycle because you will inevitably add some body fat.

I don't think adding that test booster makes much sense on cycle because you will be shut down anyways. The only test boosting product I might add is HCGenerate because it will actually help to keep your balls closer to normal size.
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Thanks. And this cycle is more of a recomp. Weighed in 3 pounds lighter today fully fasted hit a new ohp pr of 225. Feeling great not sure if libido or starting to feel some of the effects


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On my next injection really want to shoot into quad...anyone have experience with which area is best and if 23G 1.5" is okay to use there?


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Great thanks. Im pretty good at glutes literally have had no pip at all...either because good technique or just good quality gear


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hey so quick question guys. Interested in running the test e for 10 weeks then two weeks of prop to go straight to pct anyone have experience with this?
 
maximumeffort said:
hey so quick question guys. Interested in running the test e for 10 weeks then two weeks of prop to go straight to pct anyone have experience with this?
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Personally I do not run the cycles like that, but I do know many guys who do, so it is fine to do so. However, I would still recommend to wait 1 week after the last prop injection before hopping on the PCT.
 
What does GW stand for? Sorry I'm a noob.

Also, I purchased Phytoserm from ruthless supps. What's the best way to take this and for after a beginner cycle do I need to combine with Clomid and Nolvadex still for PCT? thanks
 
maximumeffort said:
hey so quick question guys. Interested in running the test e for 10 weeks then two weeks of prop to go straight to pct anyone have experience with this?
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test is test man.. all you are doing here is adding more and switching esters. the long esters are still in your system and you are adding a faster ester.
 
GetBig007 said:
What does GW stand for? Sorry I'm a noob.

Also, I purchased Phytoserm from ruthless supps. What's the best way to take this and for after a beginner cycle do I need to combine with Clomid and Nolvadex still for PCT? thanks
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GW = cardarine GW

You can replace the HCGenerate ES in the perfect PCT protocol with the Phytoserm from ruthless supps. I personally would argue that HCGenerate ES is WAY superior to phytoserm but if you already purchased phytoserm, you might as well use it.
 
Edit: not hitting legs again on pin day lmao....pinned quads and hurt like a bitch during front squats


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maximumeffort said:
Edit: not hitting legs again on pin day lmao....pinned quads and hurt like a bitch during front squats


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I find that if I pin quads in the morning then do kegs at the gym that night, I will have minimal PIP. Now if I pin quads one day and then do legs the following day I am more likely to have a poor leg workout due to PIP. Just my experience.

I do the same with Delts. Pin then the day I do chest or delts.

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