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Hello Im 20 years old and currently in my 5th week of my 12 week cycle of test enanthate and deca when I first started my cycle I weighed 70 kg 182 cm I started at the dose of 500 MG per week then I was told that 500 Mg per week was too much for me and that I should only use 375 MG per week 175 splits because with that dose of 375 I wouldn't get shutdown and also that I should drop the deca since it's my first cycle and that taking 2 wouldn't allow me.to know which gave.me side effects had I had any. So my first shot was 250 MG of test e and 50 MG deca then I dropped the deca and.reduced the test dosage to 175 twice per week total 375 per week I'm currently in my 5th week and now on weigh 76 kg and I was told again that no matter how small the dose u would get shut down anyways so I decided to up the dose again to 500 Mg per week yesterday was my first shot of my new decided dose I took 250 am I doing it right is my dosage.good.or what I'm really confused I know I'm too young to be on steroids and that I should have asked these questions way before I started using steroid but I'm here now and really hope you can help me do what's best thank you
run 375mg. thats plently to grow on. Make sure you have a VERY good pct lined up. You need to make sure you get your natural testosterone production back.
I would even consider stopping using it. Hold on to it for 1.5-2yrs and than start back up. You clearly lack the proper knowledge to use steriods as well.
I would even consider stopping using it. Hold on to it for 1.5-2yrs and than start back up. You clearly lack the proper knowledge to use steriods as well.
Yes as gymrat stated you are way under educated on AAS use and PCT.
If I were you I would drop the deca now and continue at 500mg a week(Mon 250mg, Thurs 250mg) I would start your PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex around 21 days after your last shot. HCG is most likely not needed for you as you will recover quickly.
Make sure you get base line labs before your next cycle and study up and train naturally as long as you can.
mands
If I were you I would drop the deca now and continue at 500mg a week(Mon 250mg, Thurs 250mg) I would start your PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex around 21 days after your last shot. HCG is most likely not needed for you as you will recover quickly.
Make sure you get base line labs before your next cycle and study up and train naturally as long as you can.
mands
Still seem to be young ....I would say it safe to assume at the age of 20 your natural levels are still very active and sounds like you to need to eat....eat and oh yea ...eat
Well actually I dropped deca I only took deca on my first shot
And why 375 not 500 per week gymrat827
Is it OK to take dosage like Sunday 250 and wedsnday 175?
I think he said someone told him any dose shuts you down not "doesn't"
And yes what stevesmi said^^^ 150lbs? Come on dude. You gotta eat and train right before jumping on AAS.
mands
I think someone told him 375mg "doesn't" shut you down and then later someone told him any dose shuts him down.
And yes what stevesmi said^^^ 150lbs? Come on dude. You gotta eat and train right before jumping on AAS.
mands
Well first I'm 170 lbs well I was actually very happy with my results in the gym before I started taking steroids I just wanted to see what would happen if I did take.steroids out of curiosity I know it was a mistake but I think it's too late to back out now I'm already in my 5th week so I'm just gonna finish this cycle and pct and hopefully il recover and go back to normal but you still didn't answer my question is it OK if I took for example 250 on Wednesday and 175 Sunday or so they have to be equal cut iv changed the dose 3 times already first shot was 250 ml with 50 deca then I dropped.deca and started.taking only 175 test twice per week this week I was told.that I.should up the dose to 500 Mg per week since.I'm getting shutdown anyways what do u think.
Besides my goal is to reach a maximum of 200 lbs I already have a.very low bf %
Well since your already doing it start a log could help others
What do you mean
fizzisnumerouno
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You need to follow forums and look at posts. I feel like you did steroids, came here, skimmed a few threads, then posted. A log is where you give written or photo updates of your progress in a thread.
If you are doing 200 mg in 1 dart and 175 in another..... Not a HUGE deal but you should just measure out evenly.
At 20, you're too young for steroids, I suggest you cycle-down, run PCT and go into a natural cycle. Have you considered this option?
I'm starting too actually but don't you think I should just finish this cycle since.I'm.already 5 weeks in how would it help I stopped now
And what do you mean by a natural cycle
Also do you think.that what I did till now will affect my hormone system even.if.I.did pct and stopped will i be able.to recover properly or will this cycle affect me.permanently?
This is all research you should have done beforehand, and you should not be cycling at your age. There is the risk of not recovering from any cycle, but the sooner you quit the easier your recovery will be. I suggest stopping and doing PCT, then forget about steroids at least for several years until you are ready
you don't need steroids to reach 200 pounds at your height. seriously.
also yes I know you have low body fat. there are hundreds of 20 year olds who are skinny at my gym I see all the time. if you have very little mass on your frame obviously you need to fix issues in the kitchen first otherwise steroids do nothing for you.. maybe steroids will raise your appetite but that is reaching and not really the point
your problem is you have no patience, you want overnight results. it takes years and years to get results in this game. if you aren't willing to accept that then just forget this and go find another hobby
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Ok look iv been training for 2 years and I used to weigh 120 lbs believe me.I have patience and I don't even like steroids I just took them out of curiosity and I'm pretty satisfied with my self so I'm not looking for overnight results but I didn't know that one cycle would harm me.so much so could you tell me what and when.should.my pct be I was gonna take.clomid and Nolvadex.?
And I don't really think that 77kg with low body fat is considered very little mass
And don't laugh but my nipple are starting to itch and.hurt when I touch them like a spike
at 5 10 and only 77kilo's you are tiny. good job getting from 120 but you still are not ready for the big leagues yet.
what you fail to realize that we all started small as ectomorphs.. I am one too.. the way I overcame it was in the kitchen .. you still aren't figuring that out my friend
instead of argueing with people who know their shit, why don't you post up your diet and training and work on improving that. until you fix those two things you aren't going anywhere
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you are developing bitch tits. you could end up needing surgery if you are not careful
Casca
bodybuilder
Not a laughing matter bro!
Ok man I appreciate your help. Then guide me to the big leagues sensai.look I also gained those 20 kg with diet and gard training I realize that taking steroids was a mistake Im gonna stop but could you please help me stop in the best way possible like when should I start my pct and at what doses would cloud and Nolvadex be enough. My last shot was Wednesday what should I do now
BTW they don't always hurt I only itch from time to time and I just felt that spike when I was training today only
^^^ Post your diet!!! post your workout!!
and be honest.. don't post up what you do twice a week.. post up what you usually eat.
I'm not going to put a full meal plan together for you bro, but I will help you sharpen things up
you keep asking what you should take, the real question is what you should eat
and be honest.. don't post up what you do twice a week.. post up what you usually eat.
I'm not going to put a full meal plan together for you bro, but I will help you sharpen things up
you keep asking what you should take, the real question is what you should eat
Bro I'm just asking what I should take to recover properly so my hormone can get back to normal
My training schedule is like this I train 3 days rest on the fourth I do chest and biceps abs next day legs calves next day shoulders traps abs the next day I do back and triceps calves. I usually to 4 to 5 exercises for chest shoulders back and quads and 3 exercises for biceps calves triceps and 2 for traps start first exercise with 4 sets of 6 to 12 reps depending on the microcycle and if I didn't feel I got the best out of my workout I usually finish within a drop set
Ok my diet goes like this when I wake up I have 40g of whey protein and some quaker oats with milk then I eat some foul (beans) with olive oil and white bread then I eat a plate of.white rice and.half a.plate of chicken breasts. Yesterday I.bought a weight gainer called mass up(mhp) which I am going to have 3.times.per day once instead of my morning protein shake.and.once as a post workout shake and once with milk before I.sleep. After I.eat the rice and chicken breasts I eat 2 bananas and.go to the. Gym. I am currently supplementing with bcaa caps 2 caps before every meal and pre and post workout and during my workout I usually have a bcaa shake. After my workout I drink a weigh protein shake which will now be replaced with my new weight gainer then after that I go home and shower and I go with my huge bodybuilder friend and declare war on the restaurant of our choice. Then I head home eat another plate of rice and chicken breasts and half a weigh.protein shake with milk and.sleep for about 8 to 9 hours + I take 2 caps of magnesium and.1 multi vitamin and 2 fish oil throughout the day. Is it too late for.my tits or what? Please help.
1. you should have had pct in place before your cycle
2. your diet is just shakes and milk. where is the real food? and you say "you just started" blah blah blah. you should have been eating well already, not waited till your cycle started to decide to eat.
3. you need an AI
4. do more research.. no one on here is gonna spoonfeed you, that's not what this board is all about
2. your diet is just shakes and milk. where is the real food? and you say "you just started" blah blah blah. you should have been eating well already, not waited till your cycle started to decide to eat.
3. you need an AI
4. do more research.. no one on here is gonna spoonfeed you, that's not what this board is all about
I do I have a pct Nolvadex and clomid and the only thing I just started to do is the gainer other than that I'm eating right I just want to know what I should do recover properly all I asked was for some advice from an expertise opinion is that too much
Honestly I'm new to this game but I want to chime in just to say you are 20 years old. When I was 20 I could fucking train my ass off, party all night then wake up go to work at 6:00am and do it all again the next day. I was never on supplements and never on AAS. When your twenty there is no reason why you can not just bang it out every day. There is no good reason why you shouldn't be able to train as hard as you want to unless you have some medical issues. Take the advice of the guys here and read up before you start to cycle. At your age just go natural and go balls to the wall my friend. I did this all they way up to my early thirties and only (mid thirties) now I am barely starting to see recovery times dip down. AAS wont do a thing for you if your not willing to put in some quality time and work. Even before I started my first cycle I still was going 7 days a week and at 20 you need to be in freight train mode my friend. Stay on track!
I swear to god man I train like a mad man everyday in the gym and I only took steroids because.I thought that it would help me gain more muscle by training even harder now all I want is to figure out how to stop my cycle an.get.rid off this pain on my nipples I want.to be natural againnnnnnnnnn
I'm sure you will be fine and it will take some time to recover. Your twenty so you should have no problem recovering and moving past this. Get high and shredded on foods, don't drink, or drink little, keep hitting it hard and when your older like we are you will have a bad ass base to work with. Better to have a solid base then a flabby one.
Stretch 512 your a reall motivation booster man I think I'm gonna see a doctor tomorrow for this estrogen thing and hopefully he'll tell me what to do and not tell me riddles 
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