First cycle

[tapasr_574735132]

What's up my iron brothers!
Recently joined your forum and wanted to write my first post.
Little about me, I'm 34 years old 5'11 195lb 13%bf. Been in and out of gym for most of my life for past 4years going strong 5-6 days a week. Lately feel like my gains and strength hit the wall so I decided to search into AAS. I did sarms stack before from Sarms1 and didn't gain much maybe due to a dose I was taking, idk.
So here is my first cycle and I wanted to hear your opinion.
1-12w Test sust 250/week
1-12w Gw-12.5mg twice per day
1-12w osta -20mg once per day
Armosin 25mg e3d
12-14 pct with clomid, nolva from sarms1, nguard, hcgenerate.
Looking to get better endurance and lean muscle.
Eating -+3000 cal/day clean food
PS here is my #s 430lb dead lift, 205 military press, 305 bench 370back squat.
Thank you all for your time! Got more ?s about my wife cycle but maybe in the next thread.


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[anabolx]

Hello,

Why not to inject 500mg sus EW?

 

[AnDrovis]

What's up my iron brothers!
Recently joined your forum and wanted to write my first post.
Little about me, I'm 34 years old 5'11 195lb 13%bf. Been in and out of gym for most of my life for past 4years going strong 5-6 days a week. Lately feel like my gains and strength hit the wall so I decided to search into AAS. I did sarms stack before from Sarms1 and didn't gain much maybe due to a dose I was taking, idk.
So here is my first cycle and I wanted to hear your opinion.
1-12w Test sust 250/week
1-12w Gw-12.5mg twice per day
1-12w osta -20mg once per day
Armosin 25mg e3d
12-14 pct with clomid, nolva from sarms1, nguard, hcgenerate.
Looking to get better endurance and lean muscle.
Eating -+3000 cal/day clean food
PS here is my #s 430lb dead lift, 205 military press, 305 bench 370back squat.
Thank you all for your time! Got more ?s about my wife cycle but maybe in the next thread.


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Those are some good numbers.

If its your first cycle, keeping it extremely simple is the best. Sustanon is fine but bump it up to 50 ml a week. Drop everything else.
Some may disagree but for PCt you can probably get away with just using Novladex or Chlomid. You dont have to use them together. Id use either one for longer then 2 weeks as well, with 4 weeks being optimal. Decrease your dose over the 4 week period.

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edit

Post should have read 500ml a week. Sorry.

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Hello,

Why not to inject 500mg sus EW?

Agree. 250 is way too low. Almost pointless.

 

[anabolx]

You mean 500mg a week

 

[AnDrovis]

You mean 500mg a week

yeah, made the correction. lol

 

[tapasr_574735132]

I was thinking to bump it up a little next week. Thank you
What you guys think about armosin 25mg e3d? Should I try to split a capsule and do 12.5 eod instead.
Also im taking sarms to get my mile under 6 why do you think I should drop it?



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[AnDrovis]

I was thinking to bump it up a little next week. Thank you
What you guys think about armosin 25mg e3d? Should I try to split a capsule and do 12.5 eod instead.
Also im taking sarms to get my mile under 6 why do you think I should drop it?



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For a first cycle, personally I would just like to be on one thing to see how that is effecting me. then after that, I'd add in another thing and so on.

You should be fine with 25mg every 3rd day with that amount however, not enough people do blood work on cycle and so its just a guess as to whether 12.5 would be enough until they start feelings lumps. lol Take the 25mg and do some labs and see what the results are. You can make an informed decision form there and take out all the guess work. If you cant do blood work for whatever reason, then err on the side of greater prevention.

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Sorry, I have to make another edit as I reread your post and noticed you meant 12.5 every other day. lol

Just stick with 25mg every 3rd day. you should be fine bro.

 

[muskate]

I was thinking to bump it up a little next week. Thank you
What you guys think about armosin 25mg e3d? Should I try to split a capsule and do 12.5 eod instead.
Also im taking sarms to get my mile under 6 why do you think I should drop it?



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I would break the 25mg aromasin tablets in half and use 12.5mg EOD.

Your cycle and PCT looks really well laid out. Great job. I can tell you did your homework. I would bump up your testosterone dosage to 500mg/week. 250mg/week is only a little bit more then a testosterone replacement therapy dosage. You aren't going to notice a whole lot from that.

 

[tapasr_574735132]

For a first cycle, personally I would just like to be on one thing to see how that is effecting me. then after that, I'd add in another thing and so on.

You should be fine with 25mg every 3rd day with that amount however, not enough people do blood work on cycle and so its just a guess as to whether 12.5 would be enough until they start feelings lumps. lol Take the 25mg and do some labs and see what the results are. You can make an informed decision form there and take out all the guess work. If you cant do blood work for whatever reason, then err on the side of greater prevention.

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Sorry, I have to make another edit as I reread your post and noticed you meant 12.5 every other day. lol

Just stick with 25mg every 3rd day. you should be fine bro.

Thanx a lot! Do you know any private lab company for blood work? I just did my yearly check up and now have to wait a year.

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[Jay Scott]

You mean 500mg a week

Id say everything seems on point, but I would up the test to 500mg/week as well

 

[LevButlerov]

All in all, your cycle and PCT look good. However, there are two things I would change. First of all, it would be best to increase your test dosage to 500 mgs. There is no point in getting suppressed just to use 250 mgs. Secondly, 25 mgs of aromasin is way too much. After all, you still need to have proper estrogen levels in order to function properly. Therefore, use 12.5 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle, and you should be alright.

 

[tapasr_574735132]

All in all, your cycle and PCT look good. However, there are two things I would change. First of all, it would be best to increase your test dosage to 500 mgs. There is no point in getting suppressed just to use 250 mgs. Secondly, 25 mgs of aromasin is way too much. After all, you still need to have proper estrogen levels in order to function properly. Therefore, use 12.5 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle, and you should be alright.

Thank you Lev, I will follow yr and others advice. When do you think I should do my blood work? Mid cycle and after pct?
I'm here on the west coast, anyone know good source where I can order blood work on line?

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[LevButlerov]

Thank you Lev, I will follow yr and others advice. When do you think I should do my blood work? Mid cycle and after pct?
I'm here on the west coast, anyone know good source where I can order blood work on line?

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Ideally, you want to do blood work before the cycle (to get your baseline), in the middle of the cycle (to make sure the compounds are working fine), and a couple of weeks after PCT (in order to make sure you got recovered properly and got to your baseline).

As for the places to use for blood work, Private MD labs is the place to go for most people in the US. They are discreet, and there is no need for a script from a doc.

 

[Grillmaster78]

I think everyone is recommending the same thing so your good.

Unless you already have the Sustanon 250 I would instead just do Test Cyp or Test Enanthate. I'm sure it will be slightly cheaper and you can manage your test levels more accurately. I would buy whatever is cheapest per mg. I would run it at 500mgs a week, spread into 2 shots would be ideal but 1 shot a week is ok if u don't like needles that much. I would run the test alone, because as u said you ran sarms before and didn't really notice much and with taking 500mgs test your first cycle you won't notice much off them anyways and you can spend that money into pct or more sarms post cycle. AI depends on how sensitive you are, aromasin at 12.5mgs EOD is good advice. Are you taking a good multi vitamin? I personally take 50 mgs a day of zinc and I noticed it keeps estrogen levels lower, you will just have to pay attention to your sensitivity and it's good to have it on hand as needed.

 

[tapasr_574735132]

Thank you bros, I'm glad I found this forum.

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[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Your plan looks pretty close to me. I would personally dose sust at 500mg per week, GW at 20mg per day, aromasin at 12.5mg EOD, and osta at 25mg per day. PCT looks good as well.