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Hello everyone i just started hcg diet which is a 500 calorie restricted diet..its really unbelievable for a person like me who's an foodie how can i eat so less ..but believe me on hcg you wont even realise how easy it goes (i am on day 10 have lost real 5 kgs fat ) as hcg feeds you with fat stores.... but 1 thing is i cant really exercise on it ... it gives real cramps if you do workout as u sweat and loose all your eletrolites .... anyways...
My question is add testosterone cypoinete to it ? So the fat loss is faster and i can also exercise and test my recover me from strees ... or these two dont go with each other?
Jas anyone done this ??

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If you are only eating 500 calories a day which I think is insane there is no point in adding test. Test is usually used to make or maintain muscle gains and although it may help your fat loss goals you will hold on to some water and its totally not worth messing with your nuts natural output for the goals you are chasing. I wouldn't even mess with HCG when you are only eating 500 calories a day. HCG probably has little to do with your weight loss right now the caloric deficit your body is in has everything to do with it though.
 
No hcg diet is really worth it ive lost 5 kgs of stored fat wo exercise. And there nothing insane abt it as u wont even feel hungry on hcg . Lost 2 inches waist size ..... yes but i think ur right in saying not to mess with anything on 500 calorie diet ..... ill have to wait 10 days more and finish hcg then satrt test
Btw hcg also produce lh so my test levels must be naturally a bit high

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I've heard about this diet and I've know docs who prescribe it.I cannot say I agree with 500 cal a day.I think anyone on 500 cal a day would loose easily 2 lbs a day.I know I would probably drop 5 to 10 a day for the first couple of days just of water.But nontheless I am intrigued by this and would like to hear more.So are you saying the HCG is curbing your appetite or are you starving just powering through it.And no need to add test while you're starving yourself.Wait until you are ready to eat more protein and then pack on some muscle.Keep us posted r pm me and let me know how its going.
 
I believe you but I think on a 500 calorie diet you will lose weight no matter what. And you are right HCG will jack up your levels but remember what goes up must come down and that's why I advise against the HCG for the goals you are chasing. If I am understanding your goals correctly they are totally achievable without it. I'm not knocking you at all though I'm just sharing my opinion.
 
the rock said:
I've heard about this diet and I've know docs who prescribe it.I cannot say I agree with 500 cal a day.I think anyone on 500 cal a day would loose easily 2 lbs a day.I know I would probably drop 5 to 10 a day for the first couple of days just of water.But nontheless I am intrigued by this and would like to hear more.So are you saying the HCG is curbing your appetite or are you starving just powering through it.And no need to add test while you're starving yourself.Wait until you are ready to eat more protein and then pack on some muscle.Keep us posted r pm me and let me know how its going.
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I think u need to reserch hcg .. its totally different then any other 500 cal diet .. hcg is a pregnancy hormone which supplies food to foetus 24/7 from stored fats when food is not present. ... so when u r on hcg and u eat only 500 calorie a day u don't stare actually. ..hcg supplies your body the food it needs from stored fats ... believe me I've done many diets but nothing can even come close to hcg ..... u feel fresh all day long ....no starving....no sugar cravings..... at times i found it difficult to even eat 500 cals..... hcg resets your hypothalamus in phase 3 so when u r done with your diet your body will adjust to less craving naturally. ....
The amazing thing is no pct required .. and hcg is dirt cheap ..... my whole 3 weeks dosage plus injections cost less then $12 ....

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poonplatoon said:
I believe you but I think on a 500 calorie diet you will lose weight no matter what. And you are right HCG will jack up your levels but remember what goes up must come down and that's why I advise against the HCG for the goals you are chasing. If I am understanding your goals correctly they are totally achievable without it. I'm not knocking you at all though I'm just sharing my opinion.
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No u will starve to death without hcg trust me on that ..on hcg 500 calorie diet u feel fresh and never get hungry

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Not to burst your bubble but what you are doing is not a good idea.

HCG diet will only hurt you more in the end. Of course it works while on it! you're eating 500cal a day. It is such an unhealthy way of losing weight. How about eating 500cal less than maintenance calories and working out properly? Which being a male I'm sure will be above 1700-2k at least (not knowing your stats)

In the end you will lose all this weight from this diet, go back to regular eating, and then your body will balloon up and you will put more weight on than when you began. Seen it a few times now. It ruins your body. I would stop immediately and reverse diet back up.

just my 2c
 
No u have a 3 weeks maintenance after diet which resets ur hypothalamus. .. u can google hundreds of success story of people who have lost more then 40 pounds in 40 days and have maintained that always....
One more thing is it really cleans up ur entire system even my bad cholesterol levels are lower now as ur body uses it all up
So in the end
Weight loss
Full body detox
Ur unwanted cholesterol gone
Is what u get

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I have read alot about the HCG diet because I didn't understand it but alot of people seem to love it.
As for 500 calories, I would turn into a stick
I need almost 4000 just to maintain my current weight.
 
I'm just stuck on how tbe heck you hAve the will power to go that low on the calories. That's focus I guess good luck .I'm getting ready to hit my low carb diet to drop a few more lbs . Our doc loves the hcg diet but I always thought it was just starvation

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HCG (Human chorionic gonadotropin) is a glycoprotein hormone produced during pregnancy that is made by the developing embryo after conception and later by the syncytiotrophoblast (part of the placenta). I would not recommend you using it.
 
I do NOT recommend the HCG diet or HCG use. That is another topic in itself. This is what I recommend for a sample meal plan to loose body fat: http://needtobuildmuscle.com/bodybuilding-blog/2015/02/24/getting-back-gym-lay/

Starving yourself will lead to quick weight loss, but you will be loosing a lot of muscle in the progress, which will slow your metabolism.

As for a testosterone cycle, I don't think its a good idea. Steroids DO NOT burn body fat. They increase protein synthesis and prevent muscle catabolism.

As for supplements that help with fat loss, Cardarine GW stacked with n2slin is going to be your best option.
http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/F...2Slin-p50.html
http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/
Cardarine is drug that binds to the PPAR receptor and is non-hormonal. Cardarine increases the expression of genes involved in the expenditure of energy, stimulates glucose uptake in skeletal muscle tissue and burns fat by stimulating fatty acid oxidation.
N2slin is a non-stimulant fat burner and powerful nutrient partitioner. It increases insulin sensitivity of muscle cells and helps partition the food you eat into muscle cells and away from fat cells.
Take 20mg of cardarine gw per day. 10mg AM 10mg PM
Take 2 tablets N2slin 30 minutes before each meal you eat that contains a significant amount of carbohydrates.

Both are stimulant free and non-hormonal.
 
The hcg diet works very very well I have several overweight friends who have done it and the results were astounding. They kept it off also using the gradual protocol in the literature.



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let me break it down like this. anyone will lose weight on 500 calories a day. yeh of course. the reason hcg is successful is that it uses your fat stores for energy, the 500 calories a day is basically for burning that fat. i've done 500 cal a day on the hcg diet and off, and i can tell you it makes a big diff. on 500 cal a day without the hcg, my hair woudl come out super easy, i had no energy etc, i started to feel run down around 2-3 weeks. on 500 calories with the hcg i didn't feel any of that. you feel perfectly fine, and not even hungry, which is why it works. yes if you don't have any discipline or do it correctly you can fall back into gaining the weight back, but that goes for anything you don't stick too.

to answer the OP question, i'm on testosterone and hcg, and personally i haven't noticed it helping me.
 
the guy who gets credit for coming up with the hcg diet is now in prison for fraud.

also the FDA has said that the hcg diet is bullshit and to steer clear.

having said that there is such thing as placebo effect and if you really really believe in this diet and it works for you then go for it.

I personally would never attempt 500 calories a day because I would become a zombie. I need food for fuel to get me through my day, but a lot of guys do this and then run on stims all day because its more important to be shredded then eat a balanced diet and do it the old fashioned way. I will tell you though with my grueling workouts there is no way a human being could get away with 500 calories a day without fainting

I wouldn't run this diet for long periods of time and I would be supplementing throughout with plenty of minerals and vitamins

good luck with this, I would be curious to see before and after stats/pics ... I'm actually a big advocate in changing up diet, people would be surprised at how effective that can be, instead of eating the same thing everyday
 
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the guy who gets credit for coming up with the hcg diet is now in prison for fraud.

also the FDA has said that the hcg diet is bullshit and to steer clear.

having said that there is such thing as placebo effect and if you really really believe in this diet and it works for you then go for it.

I personally would never attempt 500 calories a day because I would become a zombie. I need food for fuel to get me through my day, but a lot of guys do this and then run on stims all day because its more important to be shredded then eat a balanced diet and do it the old fashioned way. I will tell you though with my grueling workouts there is no way a human being could get away with 500 calories a day without fainting

I wouldn't run this diet for long periods of time and I would be supplementing throughout with plenty of minerals and vitamins
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the guy that came up with the hcg diet was a doctor (endo) in the 1940s who is long dead, in 1967 he wrote the book pounds and inches to accompany it. not sure where you got that info.
 
kckcjl94 said:
the guy that came up with the hcg diet was a doctor (endo) in the 1940s who is long dead, in 1967 he wrote the book pounds and inches to accompany it. not sure where you got that info.
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I'm following pounds and inches

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This diet reminds me of some scammers, who offered their clients a "revolutionary" weightloss programm, with guaranteed loss of 6-8 kgs in a month. Their secret was that they did not let them eat anything at all during this month, and only allowed to drink 1.5 L of water. Obviously, their clients lost the weight, only to recover it in a matter of weeks after finishing the programm. Later one of their customers died, and these scammers moved to a different country to continue with their affair. Just food for thought.
 
i ate 750 calories a day for a year (used a food scale with every meal) and lost 165 pounds. worked out with a trainer at the same time. still alive. people with weightloss surgery eat pretty much the same amount because they have too, i had a friend who said he couldn't eat right and couldn't lose weight. he had the full stomach surgery, they give you vitamins since you can't absorb like before, he could onlly eat around 600-700 calories a day. so i did the same thing to prove to him he didn't need the surgery. i lost the same amount of weight, more actually, and didn't have the absorbtion problems like he did. i still took the same multivitamins tho.
 
kckcjl94 said:
the guy that came up with the hcg diet was a doctor (endo) in the 1940s who is long dead, in 1967 he wrote the book pounds and inches to accompany it. not sure where you got that info.
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notice I said the guy who gets 'credit' for it.. as in made it so popular and made it explode into a cult following.

not the original dude lol

I'm talking about Kevin Trudeau

obviously hcg has been around way before Kevin was even born. but you will agree with me that he is the guy who put it on the map with all his books and informercials. he is the 'buy gold and silver' scammer of his era and a legend if you are an infomercial junkie like me. I think he got fined about 40M and got 10 years in prison, even with powerful lawyers.. that shows you how hard they wanted to teach him a lesson

there are people who still worship the guy and believe it is a govt conspiracy to quiet him. if that isn't a cult like following then I don't know what is.. these are the same clowns who believed the 'buy gold' bullshit a few years ago. those companies were dumping gold to suckers at the high and since then gold has plummeted 30-40% ..
 
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notice I said the guy who gets 'credit' for it.. as in made it so popular and made it explode into a cult following.

not the original dude lol

I'm talking about Kevin Trudeau

obviously hcg has been around way before Kevin was even born. but you will agree with me that he is the guy who put it on the map with all his books and informercials. he is the 'buy gold and silver' scammer of his era and a legend if you are an infomercial junkie like me. I think he got fined about 40M and got 10 years in prison, even with powerful lawyers.. that shows you how hard they wanted to teach him a lesson

there are people who still worship the guy and believe it is a govt conspiracy to quiet him. if that isn't a cult like following then I don't know what is.. these are the same clowns who believed the 'buy gold' bullshit a few years ago. those companies were dumping gold to suckers at the high and since then gold has plummeted 30-40% ..
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Yeah that guy was a real piece of work. I didn't know he got nailed and is in prison.


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the_waco_kid said:
Yeah that guy was a real piece of work. I didn't know he got nailed and is in prison.


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his infomercials were hilarious though. "I can't tell you how to cure this disease cause if I do they will barge through the doors with machine guns pointed at me!, so you have to buy my book"

then people buy his book and he signs them up for his newsletter which you can never cancel so you get billed monthly for life.. lol...
 
Look theres nothing to be judged on legal or illegal even plain testosterone cypoinete is illegal. ..and cigarette is legal .... tomorrow if govy decides to ban say whey protein saying its performance enhancement drug will you stop using that. ?
Look we have to decide logically if u want a stuff or no ... govt bans many things. ... whatever may be the case I've seen real good results just in 14 days and my relationship to food has changed I'm no longer a slave to my hunger nor temptation. .. i have now begin to master my hunger ..



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stevesmi said:
his infomercials were hilarious though. "I can't tell you how to cure this disease cause if I do they will barge through the doors with machine guns pointed at me!, so you have to buy my book"

then people buy his book and he signs them up for his newsletter which you can never cancel so you get billed monthly for life.. lol...
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Just like I said - yet another scammer milking his adepts, which is completely inmoral.
 
It's very similar to that magic cleanse protocol Beyonce was endorsing. I can't remember the exact details but it was something like: maple syrup + cayenne pepper + lemon juice is a magic cleansing formula. If you drink nothing but that shake for a week you will loose weight.

Well obviously if you don't eat anything for a week you're going to loose weight!

Same thing with the HCG diet. It's just the extremely low calorie diet that is causing people to loose weight, not the HCG.
 
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