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It'd be very easy for me to go off on one and write pages on this. Here's a few points
Most gain average amounts. Myself included. Yet today I weighed 322lbs. But I averaged the same gains as most - 3-4lbs a year. However, I've been doing it a LONG time (40+ years). Most have not. They THINK they need to do it quicker (they WANT it faster they do NOT NEED to).
Genetics obviously play a part. Not everyone, regardless of how many PEDs they use and in ever more silly amounts will weight a ripped 250lbs .
But the biggest issue is (as I mentioned above) fkin up off cycle. They only 'get it right' on. Be that training, nutrition or recovery. I'll give one very simple example - not adjusting post cycle for the gains made (strength or muscle). You WILL lose some (it's a given). But if you added 10 and kept 5 then eat for the new 5 over and above what you ate before hand.
If just staying on did the job then we'd never need to workout just make sure we use 300mg a week.
Most gain average amounts. Myself included. Yet today I weighed 322lbs. But I averaged the same gains as most - 3-4lbs a year. However, I've been doing it a LONG time (40+ years). Most have not. They THINK they need to do it quicker (they WANT it faster they do NOT NEED to).
Genetics obviously play a part. Not everyone, regardless of how many PEDs they use and in ever more silly amounts will weight a ripped 250lbs .
But the biggest issue is (as I mentioned above) fkin up off cycle. They only 'get it right' on. Be that training, nutrition or recovery. I'll give one very simple example - not adjusting post cycle for the gains made (strength or muscle). You WILL lose some (it's a given). But if you added 10 and kept 5 then eat for the new 5 over and above what you ate before hand.
If just staying on did the job then we'd never need to workout just make sure we use 300mg a week.
