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awm1981 said:
I dont although I must admit I do take in a fair amount of caffeine as I use it to suppress my appetite while fasting but nothing crazy just a couple cups of black coffee.

You will get that low blood sugar feeling and honestly if you need a little something in your stomach you can have it 30 mins after injecting its not the end of the world I just wouldnt have a carb loaded meal within the first hour or so after dosing is all.
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Yeah, I don't drink coffee and I eat my breakfast at work. Don't really want to bring a pin with me. :D

Ok, I'll figure something out. I'll try a shake first and see if that does it.


Regarding the fasting, are you doing that to lower the amount of insulin your body needs to make? I've listened to a biologist talking about, if you can eat all of your meals within an 7 or 8 hour period, it's better for your health as you don't need to produce as much insulin.
 
Darthiggy said:
Yeah, I don't drink coffee and I eat my breakfast at work. Don't really want to bring a pin with me. :D

Ok, I'll figure something out. I'll try a shake first and see if that does it.


Regarding the fasting, are you doing that to lower the amount of insulin your body needs to make? I've listened to a biologist talking about, if you can eat all of your meals within an 7 or 8 hour period, it's better for your health as you don't need to produce as much insulin.
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Yea if you search intermittent fasting there are a to of benefits.

One being that every time you eat your insulin levels increase. When that happens it has a negative effect on your natural HGH and Test production.

You can fast up to 72 hours + without any real impact on your metabolism. Having said that you need to have self control as I know people who will do intermittent fasting (usually 16 hours fasting/8 hour eating window) and when they break their fast they binge eat and cause more harm than good.

Its not a lifetime decision thing but I will usually utilize intermittent fasting for 4-5 months at a time especially when cutting.
 
awm1981 said:
Yea if you search intermittent fasting there are a to of benefits.

One being that every time you eat your insulin levels increase. When that happens it has a negative effect on your natural HGH and Test production.

You can fast up to 72 hours + without any real impact on your metabolism. Having said that you need to have self control as I know people who will do intermittent fasting (usually 16 hours fasting/8 hour eating window) and when they break their fast they binge eat and cause more harm than good.

Its not a lifetime decision thing but I will usually utilize intermittent fasting for 4-5 months at a time especially when cutting.
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I think you're on to something. As an experiment (I had to go get winter tires put on my car so I decided to do this today) after I took my HGH, I didn't eat until noon. Had very little fatigue like I normally do when I take HGH. So I wonder if it's better to fast on those days that I take it? I will continue to experiment with this.
 
Darthiggy said:
I think you're on to something. As an experiment (I had to go get winter tires put on my car so I decided to do this today) after I took my HGH, I didn't eat until noon. Had very little fatigue like I normally do when I take HGH. So I wonder if it's better to fast on those days that I take it? I will continue to experiment with this.
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I have been intermittent fasting 4X per week for the past year or so and it has been amazing.

it does become harder when using HGH or nutrobal though cause those give me crazy appetite. but the longer you stay on the more the appetite wavers off. my technique with IF is pretty much if i am very hungry when i wake up that day I will have a healthy meal.. something like a coconut flour homemade pancake with fruit. or maybe some eggs. and on days i am not hungry i simply do not eat until lunch time.

i'm not sure if you saw my prolong fasting articles but you will enjoy those too.

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awm1981 said:
Yea if you search intermittent fasting there are a to of benefits..
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the big benefit is digestion. i'm very troubled when i hear guys who eat 6-8 meals a day yet they only have 1 or maybe 2 bowel movements.. that is horrible and why a lot of guys in this game end up needing tons of enzymes, fiber, husk, probiotics etc. you gotta respect your digestion more than that and throwing food at your body all day isn't very wise. that is why IF is so good cause your body doesn't need to blow all its energy digesting food from 6am to 11pm like the typical american eats
 
awm1981,

I know you are planning your IGF-1 blood test here in the next few days. Think you could also do the "official" HGH Serum test using 10 IU injected IM, then three hours later draw the blood? The reason I ask, is that is the 100% positive way to determine the quality of your HGH. IGF-1 testing is a funny thing. Everyone's body reacts differently to HGH. Some guys can take 4 IU's and score a 400 on the IGF-1 test...others will score a 200 on the same dosage, same product.

I will be HGH serum testing the PSL Eurotropin on Monday. Sharing results with the community is what we are all about. With good data from reputable members like yourself, we can help otherwise make the most informed decisions about these HGH products on the market.
 
Nismo99 said:
awm1981,

I know you are planning your IGF-1 blood test here in the next few days. Think you could also do the "official" HGH Serum test using 10 IU injected IM, then three hours later draw the blood? The reason I ask, is that is the 100% positive way to determine the quality of your HGH. IGF-1 testing is a funny thing. Everyone's body reacts differently to HGH. Some guys can take 4 IU's and score a 400 on the IGF-1 test...others will score a 200 on the same dosage, same product.

I will be HGH serum testing the PSL Eurotropin on Monday. Sharing results with the community is what we are all about. With good data from reputable members like yourself, we can help otherwise make the most informed decisions about these HGH products on the market.
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Yea the issue is I cant use most of the private labs like the ones in Steve's signature as Mass doesnt allow it.

The one I found the IGF-1 Test alone is $130. I also am really not looking to dose 10IUs at any point ever. I get the logic behind it and if a sponsor wants to send me a 10IU vial and pay for the labwork I will surely do an HGH Blood Serum test just sign me up but I already have the IGF-1 test ordered for tomorrow and I have a baseline already so the numbers will be relative to me which is what im logging. Its just like with Test. Some people can shoot 500mg/week and have a 1500 test level where others are 2500-3000+.

I hear ya man but at this point im committed to what I have scheduled.
 
awm1981 said:
Yea the issue is I cant use most of the private labs like the ones in Steve's signature as Mass doesnt allow it.

The one I found the IGF-1 Test alone is $130. I also am really not looking to dose 10IUs at any point ever. I get the logic behind it and if a sponsor wants to send me a 10IU vial and pay for the labwork I will surely do an HGH Blood Serum test just sign me up but I already have the IGF-1 test ordered for tomorrow and I have a baseline already so the numbers will be relative to me which is what im logging. Its just like with Test. Some people can shoot 500mg/week and have a 1500 test level where others are 2500-3000+.

I hear ya man but at this point im committed to what I have scheduled.
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Completely understandable in your case. No worries...looking forward to the results you provide.
 
Nismo99 said:
Completely understandable in your case. No worries...looking forward to the results you provide.
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Yea I checked it’s $170 for the HGH serum test. If I didn’t have the other test ordered I’d do that.

Hoping to see my IGF levels significantly above baseline.

I definitely feel the Juve working but if the numbers don’t add up I may do the 10IUs and Hgh serum test but hoping I don’t have to.
 
stevesmi said:
I have been intermittent fasting 4X per week for the past year or so and it has been amazing.

it does become harder when using HGH or nutrobal though cause those give me crazy appetite. but the longer you stay on the more the appetite wavers off. my technique with IF is pretty much if i am very hungry when i wake up that day I will have a healthy meal.. something like a coconut flour homemade pancake with fruit. or maybe some eggs. and on days i am not hungry i simply do not eat until lunch time.

i'm not sure if you saw my prolong fasting articles but you will enjoy those too.
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Thanks Steve I'll check those articles out.

I'm going to try the IF and see if that helps with the HGH. Day number 2 of fasting. A twinge of hunger but nothing crazy so far.
 
I eat 5 times a day regardless of if I'm bulking or cutting, I just change what and how much I eat accordingly, and I lose when i need to! I wasnt a fan of IF personally but I know some are....

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sub_squoch said:
I eat 5 times a day regardless of if I'm bulking or cutting, I just change what and how much I eat accordingly, and I lose when i need to! I wasnt a fan of IF personally but I know some are....

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Yeah I wouldn't be doing it, but I'm testing it with HGH as I was falling asleep at work before. Otherwise I wouldn't probably be doing it.
 
sub_squoch said:
I eat 5 times a day regardless of if I'm bulking or cutting, I just change what and how much I eat accordingly, and I lose when i need to! I wasnt a fan of IF personally but I know some are....

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its a great diet, absolutely, just not for everyone... i cant personally do it with the extensive amounts of cardio and training and im not willing to take days off to fast etc but for the people that can do it, its an excellent diet... its just not for everyone
 
dylangemelli said:
its a great diet, absolutely, just not for everyone... i cant personally do it with the extensive amounts of cardio and training and im not willing to take days off to fast etc but for the people that can do it, its an excellent diet... its just not for everyone
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Isnt that how this "thing" goes through!?!? What works for one may not for another for one reason or another. Time, patience, knowledge, and trial and error!!

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Darthiggy said:
Would you two just make up and rub your dicks together already?
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I find it odd that every thread end up with a bunch of geared-up bros talking about each others dicks! I mean, pussy, tits, ass, sure, that I get, but dicks - I'm good :)

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sub_squoch said:
I find it odd that every thread end up with a bunch of geared-up bros talking about each others dicks! I mean, pussy, tits, ass, sure, that I get, but dicks - I'm good :)

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Yeah we need some gals on gear posting up here. It's getting too bro-mancy around here.
 
Nismo99 said:
awm1981,

I know you are planning your IGF-1 blood test here in the next few days. Think you could also do the "official" HGH Serum test using 10 IU injected IM, then three hours later draw the blood? The reason I ask, is that is the 100% positive way to determine the quality of your HGH. IGF-1 testing is a funny thing. Everyone's body reacts differently to HGH. Some guys can take 4 IU's and score a 400 on the IGF-1 test...others will score a 200 on the same dosage, same product.

I will be HGH serum testing the PSL Eurotropin on Monday. Sharing results with the community is what we are all about. With good data from reputable members like yourself, we can help otherwise make the most informed decisions about these HGH products on the market.
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Awesome brother! I will be doing serum and IGF-1 on the Eurotropin. I don’t have mine scheduled yet but looking to start in next few weeks.


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Hey guys without further waiting I have my results!

This again was runing about 3.33IUs a day. Will try and get the baseline from my Doctor from 2 years ago but called and my IGF score at my 35 year appointment was 148.

After running Juve for 1 month my score is below. IGF score almost doubled to 286 from baseline which im very happy about! I will be running about another 3 months of Juve that I have on hand purchased during their Halloween sale. I wont be doing as many updates as this was more to post real world results. Also everyones body processes HGH differently and I know there have been some guys running 3-4IUs that have seen scores in excess of 300 so again very happy with the product and if anyone has any questions feel free to post or PM me!

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awm1981 said:
Hey guys without further waiting I have my results!

This again was runing about 3.33IUs a day. Will try and get the baseline from my Doctor from 2 years ago but called and my IGF score at my 35 year appointment was 148.

After running Juve for 1 month my score is below. IGF score almost doubled to 286 from baseline which im very happy about! I will be running about another 3 months of Juve that I have on hand purchased during their Halloween sale. I wont be doing as many updates as this was more to post real world results. Also everyones body processes HGH differently and I know there have been some guys running 3-4IUs that have seen scores in excess of 300 so again very happy with the product and if anyone has any questions feel free to post or PM me!

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very nice results bro.

thanks for doing this.
 
awm1981 said:
Hey guys without further waiting I have my results!

This again was runing about 3.33IUs a day. Will try and get the baseline from my Doctor from 2 years ago but called and my IGF score at my 35 year appointment was 148.

After running Juve for 1 month my score is below. IGF score almost doubled to 286 from baseline which im very happy about! I will be running about another 3 months of Juve that I have on hand purchased during their Halloween sale. I wont be doing as many updates as this was more to post real world results. Also everyones body processes HGH differently and I know there have been some guys running 3-4IUs that have seen scores in excess of 300 so again very happy with the product and if anyone has any questions feel free to post or PM me!

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Very nice. Thanks for taking the time to run such a detailed log
 
Nismo99 said:
Thanks for sharing the results! I hope and wish that more members will start doing this.
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Not a problem!

Also saw your thread with your car flipping over that sucks dude hope you are all good and looking forward to your blood serum test!
 
awm1981 said:
Not a problem!

Also saw your thread with your car flipping over that sucks dude hope you are all good and looking forward to your blood serum test!
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Crazy ride indeed. Thanks for asking. I took the blood test this morning so should have results to share in 3-4 days. The only sorta shitty thing is normally I walk into the lab and there is nobody in line. I get there this morning and no joke there are 30 people in the waiting room. So instead of a 3 hr draw...it's closer to 4 hrs. I am sure that might skew the results slightly since I am doing the serum test. I also did the IGF-1 test for shits and giggles. Guess we will wait and see what happens later this week.
 
Nismo99 said:
Crazy ride indeed. Thanks for asking. I took the blood test this morning so should have results to share in 3-4 days. The only sorta shitty thing is normally I walk into the lab and there is nobody in line. I get there this morning and no joke there are 30 people in the waiting room. So instead of a 3 hr draw...it's closer to 4 hrs. I am sure that might skew the results slightly since I am doing the serum test. I also did the IGF-1 test for shits and giggles. Guess we will wait and see what happens later this week.
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You HGH fuckers need to post some pics...
Bonerz a plus
 
awm1981 said:
Hey guys without further waiting I have my results!

This again was runing about 3.33IUs a day. Will try and get the baseline from my Doctor from 2 years ago but called and my IGF score at my 35 year appointment was 148.

After running Juve for 1 month my score is below. IGF score almost doubled to 286 from baseline which im very happy about! I will be running about another 3 months of Juve that I have on hand purchased during their Halloween sale. I wont be doing as many updates as this was more to post real world results. Also everyones body processes HGH differently and I know there have been some guys running 3-4IUs that have seen scores in excess of 300 so again very happy with the product and if anyone has any questions feel free to post or PM me!

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excellent brother! thanks for posting... great results!
 
Hey AWM (or anyone who knows this really), when you put your BAC water into your HGH, do you find that the vacuum in the HGH just sucks the water out of the needle? I'm just wondering if I should put extra air into the syringe.
 
Darthiggy said:
Hey AWM (or anyone who knows this really), when you put your BAC water into your HGH, do you find that the vacuum in the HGH just sucks the water out of the needle? I'm just wondering if I should put extra air into the syringe.
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That's a good sign...do NOT try to inject air before reconstitution. I actually hold the plunger back slightly to slow the release of the BAC water since I find the vacuum is so strong and I don't want to damage the HGH.
 
Nismo99 said:
That's a good sign...do NOT try to inject air before reconstitution. I actually hold the plunger back slightly to slow the release of the BAC water since I find the vacuum is so strong and I don't want to damage the HGH.
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Yeah. It just sucks it in even though I hold the plunger. Just wanted to make sure that I was doing it correctly and not damaging the hgh.

Great thanks man. You’re not just pretty to look at, your helpful too.


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Darthiggy said:
Hey AWM (or anyone who knows this really), when you put your BAC water into your HGH, do you find that the vacuum in the HGH just sucks the water out of the needle? I'm just wondering if I should put extra air into the syringe.
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Yea I do the same as nismo.

Hold the plunger back as the vacuum in the vial will pull the bac water in way too fast.

Also you can angle the pin once it’s in the vial so it shoots at the side of the rubber stopper and rolls down the side of the vial instead of spraying the HGH directly.
 
Hollywood305 said:
Wow all good tips...
I prob woulda fucked that up letting the water in too fast when I start my peptides
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Here's another good tip...never inject growth/peps BEFORE having your morning coffee. I accidentally injected 3ius of air subq this morning. I waited for death, but it never came

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awm1981 said:
Yea I do the same as nismo.

Hold the plunger back as the vacuum in the vial will pull the bac water in way too fast.

Also you can angle the pin once it’s in the vial so it shoots at the side of the rubber stopper and rolls down the side of the vial instead of spraying the HGH directly.
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Yup do that too thanks.


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wesley_swolle said:
Here's another good tip...never inject growth/peps BEFORE having your morning coffee. I accidentally injected 3ius of air subq this morning. I waited for death, but it never came

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LOL I read that differently at first not realizing you injected air. Yikes.


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