Sounds like you don't need to be doin gear period. Although I think u could accomplish your goals naturally, try sarms firstAwesome thanks y'all. Really appreciate the help.
So one more question..
I am new to gear i have 17% BF.. 28 years old
I was gonna run dbol but after further research it seems it wouldnt be a good move right now.. So i thought about running some test just kinda freaked with needle aspect.. I dont wanna get massive like body bulider.. Just wanna get a nice frame chest shoulder biceps ya know. I guess what j am asking is.. Can someone steer me in the right direction of what i should use...
I have to suggest getting your body fat down a bit tooAwesome thanks y'all. Really appreciate the help.
So one more question..
I am new to gear i have 17% BF.. 28 years old
I was gonna run dbol but after further research it seems it wouldnt be a good move right now.. So i thought about running some test just kinda freaked with needle aspect.. I dont wanna get massive like body bulider.. Just wanna get a nice frame chest shoulder biceps ya know. I guess what j am asking is.. Can someone steer me in the right direction of what i should use...
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Sounds like you don't need to be doin gear period. Although I think u could accomplish your goals naturally, try sarms first

It's goin take time and effort to look like that and here's what I would so start out with test e or c 500mg a week for 12 or 10 weeks then off for the same time and do a post cycle therapy pct. then do a cutting cycle with winny or somthing along thoes lines but start with the test only go on the domestic site of psl u can order it rather cheap and have it sent to you very quickly it's not like amazon but it's fast now make sure u eat right and pick a day to give ur shot or split it up into 2 shots a week I do 1 weekly ps. Heat up the oil base n ur hand first it makes it easier going in make a cross on ur but and rotate the upper portions one week do left one week do right side I've been taking test for years now without any problem or u can do it in ur leg but I'd stick with ur butt it's easier and less painfully use at least an 1 inch long needle I use 1.5 kinda an over kill but I make sure it's in the muscle but don't be afraid to order from psl there great people and this is just one bodybuilder to another don't be afraid of injecting yourself watch a video on YouTube hell my doctor told me where to inject and I've been fine ever since just make a cross on ur butt and use the top side farthest out that's what I've done for years and use a 22g or 23g I personally use a 22g it goes in better and I hardly feel it at all any more help just pm me
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Test kicks in 24 to 48hours later it's fully in your system honestly it can be a mind thing also but test is long acting so even when ur not at the guy ur muscles are growing it's not like a pre workout or anything it's the real deal u will tell a difference about 6 hours after the shot I did my first time.
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OU could but I'd stick woth test e or test c only cycle and get the 250 not 400 that's just test 400 look up a pct and an aI make sure u get some clomid and things like that for after your cycle
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I only say that because u dont wanna use needles and oral only cycles can be awfully hard on the body.Can i ask why i shouldn't be useing gear?? What makes ne differnt from your self useing gear?
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This is what i wanna look like that would be the perfect look
I only say that because u dont wanna use needles and oral only cycles can be awfully hard on the body.
And im sorry but this is not 17%bfAwesome thanks y'all. Really appreciate the help.
So one more question..
I am new to gear i have 17% BF.. 28 years old
I was gonna run dbol but after further research it seems it wouldnt be a good move right now.. So i thought about running some test just kinda freaked with needle aspect.. I dont wanna get massive like body bulider.. Just wanna get a nice frame chest shoulder biceps ya know. I guess what j am asking is.. Can someone steer me in the right direction of what i should use...
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Im not pickin at ya ya so dont mistake my tone but i have to be str8 with ya. You have got to get in better shape first.Yea im gonna stay away from oral..
Ur absolutely right. BUT, you should be sick first. Nobody saying to get"shredded" first but spend at least a year or 2 in the gym first strengthening your bones, connective tissues, joints etc and get bf below 15. AT MINIMUM! GEet too strong too fast and those bones etc will snap. Then what!? Now ur 35% bf instead of 30ish(yes you're thathigh bf) and feelin stupid. AGAIN, NOT BEING AN ASSHOLE JUST LOOKIN OUT AND GIVING YOU THE FACTS!I agree with what everyone else here says if you want to get shredded you need to diet first but I mean it's your personal choice if you want to take antibiotics go right on ahead no one can stop you
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[emoji106] glad somebody else on this thread has some sense. gashred too.I agree with you and I don't believe this guy should be doing anything until he's peaked out at the guy and is at the right spot to start using the whole reason I use is when I've peaked out at the gym to get the gains I'm wanting I don't just jump out the gate using roids that will not end well and honestly man were all here to give advice not to put you down just go to the gym and work ur ass off I've been 260lbs with only 7% body fat back when I was really pushing myself but I had been n the gym twice a day for 3 years b4 I started that then when I did start I got huge fast because my body was use to the strain and its not a good idea to start a cycle when ur body is not ready to start one.
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[emoji106] glad somebody else on this thread has some sense. gashred too.
Hey man ive heard great things bout psl but I've got a question for ya I ordered from psl domestic it shipped out Sunday well that's when I got the tracking number it's showing up as invalid so I messaged vision and I know he's super busy so I messaged psl directly they said they would check in on it asap that was 3 days ago tomorrow and haven't heard back I just placed a trial order or test e b4 I placed my large 2k order anyways nothing is showing up under tracking it's saying it's invalid or its not been updated and its been that way since Sunday like I said now I went on psl website and its not even showing a tracking number now it's still saying it's ordered in purple like normal but I'm just worried about this ordered and wondered if anyone experienced anything like that before or if there planning on shipping another order if that's y the tracking number is no longer on there website any input? Or has anyone went thru this because I was needing it by Friday to keep up with my cycle so I'm hoping I get it then.100% bro
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Hey man ive heard great things bout psl but I've got a question for ya I ordered from psl domestic it shipped out Sunday well that's when I got the tracking number it's showing up as invalid so I messaged vision and I know he's super busy so I messaged psl directly they said they would check in on it asap that was 3 days ago tomorrow and haven't heard back I just placed a trial order or test e b4 I placed my large 2k order anyways nothing is showing up under tracking it's saying it's invalid or its not been updated and its been that way since Sunday like I said now I went on psl website and its not even showing a tracking number now it's still saying it's ordered in purple like normal but I'm just worried about this ordered and wondered if anyone experienced anything like that before or if there planning on shipping another order if that's y the tracking number is no longer on there website any input? Or has anyone went thru this because I was needing it by Friday to keep up with my cycle so I'm hoping I get it then.
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major overhaul sounds extreme since nolvadex has been used for years during a PCT...what's better?
Also, the issue with an AI as opposed to a clomid or nolva is getting the dose right...complete elimination of estrogen can be a problem...
overall, who has experience with AI dosage suggestions and perhaps a better PCT?
major overhaul sounds extreme since nolvadex has been used for years during a PCT...what's better?
Also, the issue with an AI as opposed to a clomid or nolva is getting the dose right...complete elimination of estrogen can be a problem...
overall, who has experience with AI dosage suggestions and perhaps a better PCT?
AI is to be run DURING the cycle. Nolva is run during PCT but should be in conjunction with Clomid as well. Nolva or Clomid alone is not a very strong PCT...and PCT is NOT something you wanna half ass.
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