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I'm 42 y.o. 5'9" 200 been lifting for good 9 years solid just can't really do legs much due to breaking the same femur twice and hip all on same side really sucks.BF about 13-14%. Diet is super clean never cheat on that point don't like the way shitty food makes me feel! This is my first cycle of aas.

Test E 500 a week
Aromasin 12.5 e3 day
Hcgenerate daily
Multi
2 grams fish oil

Pct protocol found here on evo
My question is when does test kick in been pinning since day before thanksgiving. Nervous as hell on first pin but all was smooth and has been since then.Just have not noticed any changes at all yet am I being impatient? I am using Vermodje test e from a good source found here on evo any input would help? Thanx


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That's what I thought as well. Did have minor pip first couple injects but super smooth now. Any ideas?


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Maybe I am a slow responder I don't know . I don't doubt Vermodje at all!


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Virgin muscle your injecting in to. it will get better. Just make sure your watching for infections, rashes, and etc. You will know if its infected btw. You wont be able to sit and it will hurt like hell to walk. Keep us posted on your progress!
 
are you rotating inject sites? If i stick with one spot i have no soreness. for me i like to feel a little pain getting in my car
 
I rotate quads! I like a little pain myself ha!ha!


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My strength has not gone up or down no change in libido either. Appetite still the same as well. Mentally no changes, maybe a small reduction in bf. Definitely no water or itchy nips or anything.


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You should be def feeling something after a couple of weeks, I get bloated and gain weight after 2-3 weeks and my skin gets oily.
you can use all the gear you want but if your diet is not on point you won't see much difference.
What's your diet like? at 200Lbs you should be at least 3500cals/day and min 250 grams of protein

I'd stack the test with another compound like tren or deca, depending on your goals.
Also you can do t-bol to get slow quality gains you will most likely keep if you do proper PCT
 
At 4 weeks I can tell Im on shit..Not huge but I know its in my system, sex drive it thru the roof at that time...Give it another week or so,
 
I actually think I like E better than C. I don't know why but I feel way more vascular - maybe its all in my head though.
 
And that is why you either kickstart with an oral or short ester. There's the whole front loading idea but opinions seem mixed on it.
 
crazy_jay said:
And that is why you either kickstart with an oral or short ester. There's the whole front loading idea but opinions seem mixed on it.
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Front-loading is great, but I see no point for front-loading while on TRT, just for cycling. Good orals are great anytime IMO though.
 
Hey guys thanx for all the feedback I think I will give it 2 more weeks and get blood work, and see how I feel. This is my first run so i think I need to be a little more patient it is a marathon right not a sprint. I would like to get some tbol everything about dbol and its sides kind of steer me away.
 
TPO said:
Hey guys thanx for all the feedback I think I will give it 2 more weeks and get blood work, and see how I feel. This is my first run so i think I need to be a little more patient it is a marathon right not a sprint. I would like to get some tbol everything about dbol and its sides kind of steer me away.
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Bro, I sometimes take 150mg/day of dbol (NOT recommended) and have minimum sides. Depends on individual. But tbol is much better in many ways. Don't be too scared of feedback about too many products - everyone is different in certain ways, and you have to experience them yourself to make the right decisions for what works best for YOU. I'm not saying all advice is bad, it just differs per individual as do the side effects. Dbol may work great for your gaols - it may not. You won't know until YOU try it.
 
TPO said:
Hey guys thanx for all the feedback I think I will give it 2 more weeks and get blood work, and see how I feel. This is my first run so i think I need to be a little more patient it is a marathon right not a sprint. I would like to get some tbol everything about dbol and its sides kind of steer me away.
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That'd be my preference, don't see the point in blowing up with water weight from dbol just to loose it all. Tbol made me gassy ass all hell though, and it stank bad.
 
I like the sounds of tbol much better seems cleaner as far as water and blowing up and all the extra estrogen. I would like cleaner leaner gains anyway.Now just go find some.
 
Dbol pre work out is great - if your lean like me it fills your out quick but yeah doesn't last as far as gains. Strength is always impressive though.
 
Scale shows maybe a 2 pound increase, wife makes subtle comments, mirror says looking leaner seem to be losing some bf. Well last night it was just me and the wife home and I have to say enjoyment was had by both of us! I have to say I could not get enough. Just injected on Tuesday morning so it maybe coming around no pun intended. Lol


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i didnt notice a whole lot on test, i think people are expecting it to be more than it is often, i know i was
strength gains and put on very decent size,

like bonacris said, mirror and those around you will be the tell tale,
keep at it bro,

all the best
 
Thanx ironlou! I do know this forum kicks ass with the wealth of knowledge and all the helpful brothers out there.


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bonacris said:
I wouldn't notice much strength gains with 500mg of test. A bit more endurance maybe but not going to smash PRs every workout.

What does the mirror tell you. And scales. And people?
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I undersrand but Considering I'm 26 with a total t of 376 (nearly qualifying for trt) I feel like I should definitely be seeing strength gains at 500/w. I am just not what I expected but I guess it's a little early also, mirror says I look a bit fuller and someone said to me Jesus christ your shoulders have gotten huge (they have no idea I'm cycling either) the scales have stayed exactly the same which is good because I'm doing a heavy recomp....although I need to add more cardio
 
I took 700 MG test p for 8 weeks and through in winny the 8-12 the scale at start was 182 15% and at the end was 192 10%

I swore to god I didn't look any different. Take pics along the process next time
 
Your changing your bodies composition you shouldn't rely on a scale. Body fat and measurements are much more telling I did a recomp cycle last spring I weighed 212 at 15 % and stayed at 212 at the end of my cycle but body fat was at 10% that's 10 lbs of lean mass gained while loosing fat
 
The optimal dose of testorone, specifically long-estered test, is 600mg PW. Through medical studies, this dosage is effective at burning fat through anabolism occuring within the body.
 
Sometimes 600/wk won't do it for some people bro. Not with their specific goals, and given the fact they cruise high and do frequent, multi-compound cycles. It (500-600/wk) does less for me than it did a few years back.
 
That's a good point -- my comment was a bit short-sighted in the sense that additional cycles will lose receptor efficacy/lipolysis effect and thus require more and more mg to recapture that "virgin high" feeling, haha. I have yet to use a gram myself, so I'm sure that will be quite a ride...
 
Take legit pharm grade test...even a long ester like cypionate... and you'll feel a difference after the first injection.
 
I haven't used pharma-grade TRT staple Watson Cypionate yet, but I'm heavily intrigued by how different Testobolin or Watson works from great UGL quality like Robo/BWL/AY/etc.
 
Sweet! There are so many crappy UGLs out there and even more unaware users out there willing to buy their bunk
 
To OP.
On my first cycle of 500mg/wk I felt like a king. Really wouldn't have wanted much more. But,I didn't feel it til week 5. I figured it felt so strong cause like you i had low T levels (high 200's). I would think your sex drive should be way up now with some oily as skin.
But like 3cc's said, when I started Watson ,even at TRT dose, I feel it within 2 weeks


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I started fairly low dose test-E for TRT, and noticed a difference after just a week or so. Nothing dramatic, just felt slightly better overall. When I started doing my own TRT (basically doubled the dose the clinic was giving), I felt quite a bit better, still do. When I increased the dose I was getting to about 120mg a week, I noticed some of the effects right away (within 10 days or so). Morning wood every day, a bit stronger, and started giving more of a shit about life in general.

I'd think at 500mg a week, you'd notice something pretty quick.
 
Buggy2hot said:
I haven't used pharma-grade TRT staple Watson Cypionate yet, but I'm heavily intrigued by how different Testobolin or Watson works from great UGL quality like Robo/BWL/AY/etc.
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i don't comment too often on sources but when it comes to something like trt especially, quality is clearly of the utmost importance... i can tell you that robolics is one of, if not the very best i've used... you will find the quality and service to be at the top... i am also a very big AY proponent... i have had nothing but the best experiences with her... you can't go wrong either way here...
 
Ok my test e is definitley on the up&up. My sex drive is crazy good I feel a more positive attitude ,more relaxed or I should say better well being. Worked out last night lifts went up some. I have a home gym in the garage and I live at 8500ft it was 12 degrees out but I managed to get a good workout. Sometimes you just dont want to go out in that cold but it doesnt stop ya when you have goals and feel good. Thanx for all the input really helps alot I am so glad to have found evo!
 
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Ok my test e is definitley on the up&up. My sex drive is crazy good I feel a more positive attitude ,more relaxed or I should say better well being. Worked out last night lifts went up some. I have a home gym in the garage and I live at 8500ft it was 12 degrees out but I managed to get a good workout. Sometimes you just dont want to go out in that cold but it doesnt stop ya when you have goals and feel good. Thanx for all the input really helps alot I am so glad to have found evo!
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How much weight you gained so far bro?
 
On 500mg test cyp from robolics with lgd and GW , sex drive and strength increases came in around week 2 , started pinning in thanksgiving myself , I'm up 12 pounds now and strength is increasing weekly and around week 4 acne hit me hard , had to take some proper action but it's under control now. Robolics gear is strong ! Traps and shoulders have blown up just like they should. Really slamming a lot of good carbs and protien and haven't gained an ounce of fat. I'm very happy with my results.
 
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Great. You doing cyp for 12 weeks?
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Yea , I'm doing a low dose of some tren hex I got too , only 200mgs a week , I did 2 shows this year natural and my training and diet are in point and I felt no need to dose anything too high because I just don't need to
 
Test is all that I've been using for about 10 years now. Along with deca & d-bol, it's the best to have, IMO.

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