Thinking of new cycle

[IronBlooded]

I am 40+ years of age, have lifted weights for over 2 decades and have many cycles under my belt already. What I was wanting to do was to change up what I cycle with. Test and Tren are definitely going to be used in the cycle, but was wondering what the third compound should be. The result I am seeking is gaining mass (of course) but without sacrificing too much BF (want to lean bulk as they like to say).

In the past I have done (with the test and Tren) was Winny.

Any suggestions on what else I could run with my base, and tren?

Stats: 6 foot
220 pounds

Approx 12% BF

 

[abominable swoleman]

i would drop the tren i hate it lol but since you like it go for it im a deca fanboy but i would run this
1-16 test e 250-300 mgs
2-14 tren e 400 mgs a week
1-16 eq 600 -800 mgs a week
this is for a bulk
for a cut i would run
test 1-14 200 -300 mgs
2-13 tren e 400 mgs
1-14 mast e 600 mgs

 

[IronBlooded]

I am or have been fortunate with little to no side effects from Tren (knocks on wood) either because I have been extremely lucky or the stuff I have gotten was underdosed. I will look into EQ as it is something I have never tried before. Thanks for the great info I really appreciate it.

 

[muskate]

Test, tren and EQ would be a really good lean bulking cycle. Winstrol wouldn't be a good choice. It'll cause joint pain and prevent you from being able to really push yourself hard training. It's also liver toxic. Tren is hard enough on the body. I certainly wouldn't add a liver toxic oral steroid into the mix ontop of that.

I really like EQ. It barely aromatizes so very minimal water retention and most people get a big increase in appetite and vascularity from it.

I would do something like this -

Test 200mg/week
Tren 200mg/week
EQ 600mg/week
Aromasin 10mg EOD
Cardarine 20mg/day
Cabergoline 0.25mg EOD

 

[Mobster]

In order to give you new cycles we'd need to know what cycles you've done in the past.

 

[stevesmi]

let me remind you that the more you abuse tren, the more insulin resistant you will become.. tren is also very harsh on the body. you need to come off tren for 1 year minimum each time you use it. otherwise you will break your body down

winny is also a very harsh steroid. a lot of people don't grasp that it is, just because it doesn't aromatize into estrogen they think it isn't a big deal. it will destroy your hair, joints, and heart

 

[IronBlooded]

I have always gone with a less is more approach when it came to my cycles the ones in the past looked like this

Test 200 mg/week
Tren 200 mg/week
Winny 200 mg/week

You learn something new and always open to suggestions, I never knew about Tren and what it did to insulin. So what would you suggest to use as my third compound when I am taking a break of the Tren? Again thank you so much for all the advice, I always want to learn new things and never take things personally (keep the ego at home).

 

[upl101]

In my opinion, boldenone will be effective with a test and tren cycle.

 

[Mobster]

In my opinion, boldenone will be effective with a test and tren cycle.

The post above yours hew says instead of tren.

 

[abominable swoleman]

I have always gone with a less is more approach when it came to my cycles the ones in the past looked like this

Test 200 mg/week
Tren 200 mg/week
Winny 200 mg/week

You learn something new and always open to suggestions, I never knew about Tren and what it did to insulin. So what would you suggest to use as my third compound when I am taking a break of the Tren? Again thank you so much for all the advice, I always want to learn new things and never take things personally (keep the ego at home).

i like you do really well with nandralones i get no sides no caber is needed as long as i have an ai. youre gonna think im insane when i lay it out for you but i promise deca DOES NOT HAVE TO BE WET..
1-16 test e 250-300 mgs
1-14 deca 600 mgs a week
1-16 proviron 25 mgs a day
1-16 aromasin 12.5mg eod
i promise as long as you keep your sodium potassium balance good you will stay dry and put on some quality muscle.

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also i dont get sides from tren really i just dont really feel healthy on it and i think other compounds can do almost as well and keep you healthier.

 

[IronBlooded]

Thanks for all the great input! I always want to run Caber because I never want to suffer from high prolactin levels it also never hurts to kick that sex drive into high gear.

Steve I have a question, would Deca also do the same as Tren since they both a 19 Nor?

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks for all the great input! I always want to run Caber because I never want to suffer from high prolactin levels it also never hurts to kick that sex drive into high gear.

Steve I have a question, would Deca also do the same as Tren since they both a 19 Nor?

in my experience no.. deca does bind to DHT receptors though and does cause progesterone related gyno. so using an AI and proviron when using deca is a big thing that i recommend

 

[abominable swoleman]

Thanks for all the great input! I always want to run Caber because I never want to suffer from high prolactin levels it also never hurts to kick that sex drive into high gear.

Steve I have a question, would Deca also do the same as Tren since they both a 19 Nor?

steves got you covered the reason deca is not known to mess people up as much as tren is bc the half life of deca allows dht to attach to the recptor before dhn proviron can insure this and prov helps keep deca runs dryer

 

[IronBlooded]

That is great food for thought! Thank you again everyone! I think I will rotate the 19 Nor, and save Tren for once and run Deca the rest of the time