Third Cycle advice

[Overkill]

Hey guys, as always wanting to check in and get some advice before starting a new cycle. You guys helped on my last one and made some amazing gains, and wanting to get some more advice before starting a new one. Here are my stats and gear from last time:
Started cycle may 14 and cont. until aug 16, weight was about 295. goal was to gain mass (and gained ALOT, I ATE SO MUCH)
Began Pct the following day.

on cycle
Weeks 1 - 12
testosterone 500mg/week
EQ 300-600mg/weel
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

so right now, cutting and am around 250 right now, with only a slight decrease in strength. So the plan now is to bulk again once i'm down to about 225? Any ideas on if I should ad an oral kickstarter to this or any other changes. Also diet: I gained ALOT of mass eating steel cut oats and complex carbs with every meal. I've cut the carbs while cutting, and not planning to start this cycle until about may again. I've learned I'm veryyyy carb sensitive, anybody have any ideas on gaining mass while minimizing the complex carbs? thanks again guys for all your help.

 

[Overkill]

thought it would help to have an example of my diet:

Breakfast - 1 cup of veggies, 4 whole eggs +8 egg whites, 2 oz of almonds
Morning Snack- 1 cup of veggies, 8oz chicken, 1 apple and 1/2 cup of strawberries and black berries
Lunch- veggies, 8 oz chicken, 1 apple and 1/2 cup of strawberries and black berries
Afternoon Snack- veggies, 8oz chicken, 1 oz almonds
Supper- veggies, 8 oz eye of round steak (the huge ones from Sam's), 2 oz almonds

that's my diet now...when bulking I just added a cup of brown rice to every meal or steal cut oats to a protein shake.

 

[KLAB55]

i need to see pictures...... looking at your diet / weight im picturing Sea biscuit. whats your height / bf%

 

[abominable swoleman]

ok im gonna start with this if you think youre gonna be 225 when you cut youre wrong 295 -225 is a 70 lb cut and sorry to break it too you but gear or no gear you will lose signifigant muscle mass. im also gonna say if you have 70 lbs to lose you are extremely unhealthy and should not be using compounds that raise bp like eq actually you shouldent be using gear at all. now even on gear you can expect to lose around 2 lbs of fat a week at the most extreme end doing fasted cardio everyday and in about a 1k daily deficit. most likely you wont lose more than 1-1.5 lbs a week. your cut is going to take you atleast a year and you will most likely end up closer to the 190 lb mark after everything is said and done. you should lose the fat naturally, and then lean bulk naturally for another year or so to get closer to your genetic potential, then use gear to get past it. i know it sounds long and hard lol but i did it i was 280 lbs at around 20% and was an all american. then i cut down to 225 witch took me over a year. 16 weeks later im 240 at 7% bf. as for your diet you took out the complex carbs and left in the simple carbs. also losing 70 lbs you made wayyyy to much change and your definatly gonna plateu you need to slowly pull out carbs while upping cardio so you have room for progression

 

[57muscle]

Eat all your egg yolks and add protein shakes


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[muskate]

thought it would help to have an example of my diet:

Breakfast - 1 cup of veggies, 4 whole eggs +8 egg whites, 2 oz of almonds
Morning Snack- 1 cup of veggies, 8oz chicken, 1 apple and 1/2 cup of strawberries and black berries
Lunch- veggies, 8 oz chicken, 1 apple and 1/2 cup of strawberries and black berries
Afternoon Snack- veggies, 8oz chicken, 1 oz almonds
Supper- veggies, 8 oz eye of round steak (the huge ones from Sam's), 2 oz almonds

that's my diet now...when bulking I just added a cup of brown rice to every meal or steal cut oats to a protein shake.

Overall it looks really good. I would like to see you swap one of the chicken meals for wild caught fish.

Besides that, it looks really good. I was going to suggest adding in some complex carbs like brown rice or sweet potatoes but I can see you already plan on doing that.

One more small suggestion...swap one of the almond meals for walnuts. Walnuts contain omega 3 fatty acids and are the healthiest nuts you can consume.

 

[Mobster]

If the bodyweight numbers are correct you fucked up, There's no way anyone who is or was 70lbs overweight should be using roids.

 

[RoySimpson]

did you mean to put 225?

 

[Overkill]

Thanks for all the advice everyone. Height is 6'3" at 20% bodyfat. And 225 was just an estimate I was shooting for I guess lol But I'm just following the diet and everything a bodybuilder friend of mine is taking me through.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ 20% body fat now means you were probably closer to 30% at your peak weight right?

if so everyone who is saying "great diet" above is just parroting cookie cutter info

we need to stop telling guys who are overweight that their diets are great just cause they are eating whole foods. i'm sick of it on these forums, we are not meso or some other shitty forum, this is evo and we are supposed to be better than that

if you are 20% body fat you are eating too much pure and simple.. and don't give me the 'i'm a powerlifter'.. when i competed as a powerlifter i was 7% body fat lean to make my weight class. this perma bulking thing is not healthy and i'm not going to parrot to someone that it is okay to run 1.5grams of gear who is unhealthy.

 

[darkz]

Overall it looks really good. I would like to see you swap one of the chicken meals for wild caught fish.

Besides that, it looks really good. I was going to suggest adding in some complex carbs like brown rice or sweet potatoes but I can see you already plan on doing that.

One more small suggestion...swap one of the almond meals for walnuts. Walnuts contain omega 3 fatty acids and are the healthiest nuts you can consume.

In regards to the walnuts, I'd have to kindly disagree , the omega 3 in walnuts like most plants is in the form of a-linolenic acid which in humans converts to EPA and DHA extremely poorly and that's the essential omega3 we need so you'd be far better off with fish oil or eating wild fatty fish like muskate said in that regard. Instead eat a mixture of all the most nutritious nuts; almonds, pecans, brazil nuts (crazy selenium content, up to 50mcg per nut!), cashews, walnuts and pistachios. In the off chance you can withstand sardines or mackerel (not king) in cans, they can have upwards of 3g of combined EPA and DHA in a single 100g serving and considering their negligible mercury and heavy metal content, it makes them some of the most nutritious and sustainable fish you can consume.(You'll be getting healthier while also contributing to sustainable oceans for future generations). Listen to them in regards to your bodyweight, you're literally begging for health problems from adding roids into the mixture.

 

[muskate]

In regards to the walnuts, I'd have to kindly disagree , the omega 3 in walnuts like most plants is in the form of a-linolenic acid which in humans converts to EPA and DHA extremely poorly and that's the essential omega3 we need so you'd be far better off with fish oil or eating wild fatty fish like muskate said in that regard. Instead eat a mixture of all the most nutritious nuts; almonds, pecans, brazil nuts (crazy selenium content, up to 50mcg per nut!), cashews, walnuts and pistachios. In the off chance you can withstand sardines or mackerel (not king) in cans, they can have upwards of 3g of combined EPA and DHA in a single 100g serving and considering their negligible mercury and heavy metal content, it makes them some of the most nutritious and sustainable fish you can consume.(You'll be getting healthier while also contributing to sustainable oceans for future generations). Listen to them in regards to your bodyweight, you're literally begging for health problems from adding roids into the mixture.

You are over thinking things man...

I simply suggested that he include some more variety into his diet.

Yes ALA has a poor conversion rate to EPA and DHA, but every little bit adds up.